This morning, ABC News was cock-a-doodle-doing that two other minions with no firsthand knowledge of anything, had corroborated Amb. Sondland’s assertion that the president had violated some imaginary law (which the Democrats cannot name or describe, but they’re somehow nevertheless sure it must have happened).
The clip above, wherein Rep Mike Turner sticks a knife through the heart of the Dumocrats’ star witness, and then twists it, hard, lays bare that corroboration of someone’s fever-swamp imaginings does not leap into being “evidence” in any court not presided over by marsupials.
It is merely proof of a shared delusion, and a conspiracy to commit a coup.
That IS against the law.
“If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.” – 18 U.S. Code §2384
Note that happily, there’s no ambiguity about this; that the mere act of conspiracy by any two persons anywhere meets the specification of guilt; and that there’s no magical “except for members of Congress” clause hidden in there anywhere.
No where, whatsoever.
That makes Adam Schiff-for-brains, everyone who voted to open these hearings on the House Intelligence Committee, and all the witnesses called thus far co-conspirators, and the president is fully within his legal right to direct AG Barr to have those members of Congress and their flunkies, and all the witnesses doing this Seinfeld sham impeachment inquiry (“an inquiry about nothing”) wholly without any of the basic Constitutional protections guaranteed to all Americans, arrested, indicted, and prosecuted for sedition.
We wish he would cut to the chase, and simply do so.
We would pay good money to see that on the boob tube day in and day out for the next 9 months.
I’d have to check the math, but rounding up a sufficient chunk of Congress and putting them under lock and key would flip the House, too, leaving Nancy Alzheimer’s as the overnight new Minority Leader, and Kevin McCarthy(R) the new Speaker of the House.
It is a consummation devoutly to be wished.
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Since there hasn’t been a ‘rule of law’ in the US for decades, nothing of significance will happen to the scum in Congress or their hangers on. Nothing.
I simply can’t resist a softball….OK genius, since the rule of law is dead, and I do agree, well WTF are you proposing we do about that besides flexing our internet muscles…..OK, Boomer, we get it you are cynical and somewhat disenchanted by the status quo…Now what.
Install Linux. Duh.
Well, numb nuts, I’m not proposing anything be done about it overtly. I don’t think anything can be done because the gov’t is too corrupt, the media too controlled, the debts too high and the populace too stupid after being propagandized their entire lives.
Further, I don’t see where I intimated any proposed action so I can’t see why I’m responsible for deriving one as your post suggests.
The US Fed Gov will disappear just as the USSR did and every other empire that ever existed and then a reorganization will take place. That’s my best guess at a likely outcome.
Soooooo the solutions aren’t obvious and you just wanna bellyache. Got it.
If a handle is some how to be taken literally for every post, then what does that say about a coward with an Anonymous handle that won’t even commit to a permanent ID?
What’s the problem Anonymous? Can’t take any heat? The usual advice is to “get out of the kitchen”.
BTW – even with a real handle, your post is childish nonsense. You’ll only impress an idiot.
SOA.
Not only that but we never know which coward we are addressing. Several of us have been trying for years to change that but to no avail.
We could enforce a ban on all Anonymous posts by not replying to them. Freeze them out.
We could even politely remind people via: “Don’t reply to Anonymous!” should we see the opportunity to make the reminder before a reply to Anonymous is inadvertently made.
That’s going to be my rule for myself. I’ll just let the cowards talk into the wind from now on.
Does that stance adhere to your libertarian ideology?
A handle means nothing…your data is known by the evil ones regardless.
I agree that that is not good, but what’s even worse is spoofing author_ip (and votes). Not that anyone would ever do that, right?
AOC.
It used to be worse before TMWNN installed a block on more than one per ip.
There are ways around it. Not going to go into any details. Certain posters know it and, if so inclined, abuse it. It’s not my site though, but if it were, I’d have caught some large-mouthed bass already. 🙂
You got it….that was my softball…..smacked like a pinata.
Solution’s are indeed obvious…sure the rule of law is dead but we can make an impact still with the political process….better to be in power than out of power. Then we go to work on a million “flea” bites. Nipping at the power of the left and deep from the POTUS and other Federal elected officials down to the lowest level school board, animal control officer, etc. protest, speak out, use your rights, open carry, cut off the money to the government (go Galt). Write blog posts, then share them far and wide. Engage and never ever let a leftist BS go unchallenged……boycott and vote with your feet and dollars. Home school, buy local, buy “friendly”….so many non-violent things we can do…and if that fails…well…when you no longer have the ballot box, soapbox then it is down to the cartridge box.
Don’t take it personally SAO….at least you are awake…that is a great first step….now start taking action.
cut off the money to the government (go Galt)
This
Home school, buy local, buy “friendly”….so many non-violent things we can do
And this are true TBP pragmatism…and succinct. Good post, Charlie.
Went Galt 15 years ago, bro.
I doubt anyone here has a solution, much less an obvious one other than to watch it all crumble. It is bigger and long in the tooth coming. Corruption this long and this bad is too far gone to fix without a collapse as all complex societies end in similar fashion. Nothing last forever. The average citizen much prepare for the worst to survive not thrive.
We’ll assume you post here in good faith and that you’re trying to help work out effective responses to some of the things that Mr. Quinn and his readers find destructive. If so, I can think of few worse ways to go about it than to start with the ‘OK, Boomer’ crap. It’s one of the most mindless libtard catch phrases yet to appear, pure provocation and sneering self-satisfaction. Do you really not realize how many boomers there are here? Do you really think they’re the kind of pozzers who will meekly hold still for that crap?
I can’t believe I’m defending Charlie here, but he did it for me after we had a shit-throwing contest and I haven’t forgotten how magnanimous he was.
Charlie was using it as tongue-in-cheek, considering he’s an old Gen X, close to young Boomer. He’s a Trump supporter who just so happens to be a Boomer as well. Charlie means well and he’s just pissed off reading posts from n00bs with the exact same content posted back in 2009 by the veterans. We’ve already hashed thru these lines of thought years ago, we’re light years ahead on TBP. It’s tiresome to him most likely. It’s the same crap about currency vs. money, gold:silver ratios, flush the debt, Article I Section 8 Clause 5, ad nauseam.
I think that’s where the lines of communication have broken down…vets don’t feel like rehashing the same shit from years ago. N00bs would behoove themselves to read the last 10 years’ worth of content on TBP before even posting a comment, or prepare to be shit on for being utterly clueless. Llpoh wasn’t kidding; vets shit bigger here…they’ve already traveled these roads of discussion and TBP ain’t a hand-holding classroom. Those who don’t learn pretty quickly end up suffering the consequences.
Yep….let’s focus on “now what” or action steps.
I am ready to fight for our liberty but we are not quite there yet…..though I was pleased to see a normal American beating the shit out of the ANTIFA parasite in the video recently posted.
The Left has lit a cold burning fire…..we are going to stop and reverse this BS….hopefully peacefully.
There are no worse atrocities committed by peoples that have been subjugated for long periods that have woken to their patience wearing thin. When they lash out it will be the worst they can dish out. It will not escalate as their initial and ending responses will be the worst they could offer. They will be out to cut the heads off snakes permanently, unlike tea party novices or operation wall street freeloaders they will be out for blood, lots of it. The left does not realize they are awakening the giant.
The cycle of cults and how climate change looks the same:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/st-louis-area-mayor-cahrged-in-election-frauid-case
It would be a great show that would help Trump get elected again.
When our overlords are planning something big they often throw out a shiny object to divert attention. I suspect that’s the case here. This circus, like the one before seems like a scripted clown show with the Dummos wearing the lampshade. It has a caricature feel, doesn’t it? Meanwhile men and material are flowing to the Mideast, including 3,000 soldiers to saudi arabia. Are these monsters fixing to start the final war in their long term plan?
Dr Paul thinks it may be so.
http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/impeachment-circus-a-distraction-from-iran-war-plans
Those pursuing war with Iran must really want to move into the use of atomic weapons, as unlike the last few countries the US has screwed with, the Persians will not mess around.
Somehow, somewhere the left and right were able to pass bipartisan legislation to reload the Patriot Act, again. They are in fear of the citizenry and will act in unison to control them. While we all were at each others throats they passed laws once again to control and spy on us. It was added, hidden, into another Bill that had nothing to with it. Again. Wake up people. Both sides hate and fear you. They always work together. Against you…..
amen
The republicans are taking the wrong approach in denying this quid pro quo stuff. They should go with: delaying (not denying) the money was a perfectly acceptable tactic to get Ukraine to investigate Crowdstrike, Ukraine’s involvement in 2016, Burisma and the Bidens. And all of that warranted investigation.
I believe that speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi is willing to enable the re-election of Donald Trump in order to facilitate what she sees as a greater good, the discrediting of the ultra liberal wing of the Democratic party.
For a long time, she was very publicly against impeachment. Then at some point, the house went into high gear with the impeachment hearings. This could not have happened without the consent of the speaker.
What happened to change her mind? Both the Democratic debates and the continual rhetoric of the new leftist members of the house have indicated to her that this left of center drift would permanently swing the electorate against the Democratic party for years to come.
It must be obvious to her that an attempted impeachment against Trump that would fail in the Senate would only add to the support for Trump and would most likely insure his reelection.
This then, would surely be used and seen as a repudiation of the left wing of her party, and a return to the traditional center-left coalition that she sees as the only way forward to winning elections with the majority of Americans.
Thus, the short term pain (as she sees it) of a Trump second term is worth the longer term goal of bringing back the Democratic party to a mainstream position with voters.
Nice theory but no. Nancy is a radical leftist kleptocrat….not a single honorable bone in her botoxed gelatinous body!!
She was reluctant about the impeachment because you never want to strike the King and fail….and being a pro politician she knew this would be a disaster…especially since she also knows all the dirty shit that Dems have been doing with Ukraine including her own son!
So let’s not pretend she is anything but a leftist asshat.
SanFranNan had no choice. She either let the impeachment inquisition go forward or she would have seen a coup against her. I think she knows impeachment will fail, the Donald will get re-elected and she will probably be demoted to minority leader after next year’s election. If she did not give in to the radicals, she would have lost her leadership position and there would be no reason to seek re-election.
If the senate remains and the house flips and trump gets back in and nothing changes then maybe then the people will wake up and see the shenanigans? Doubtful. For the first 2 years trump had this and nothing changed. Nothing will but the stock market and debt and gold will zoom.
“It is a consummation devoutly to be wished.”
Wish in one hand, Schitt in the other……….
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <—-==
Fake news outlets have an obligation to print all factual data, not cherry pick. The left only reads and watches fake news that is the problem. Their intolerance, with their “tolerance” bumper stickers on their Prius’ make me sick. It should read “sheep on board”. If he is impeached, the dems should all hang for treason because they had zero evidence. If if they did, it was our President investigating bribery, corruption, and use of office for personal gain by Biden for interfering with Ukrainian investigations. That is Trumps job. This was started by Trump 19 months before, and by other investigators years before, only reaching Trump to take action 19 months ago. If this is precedent, then every action of any President would be considered “political gain” actions.
This is clearly a coup and the dems are using it solely as political gains for themselves to increase their contributions from their riled base for elections. If there are no repercussions this will continue until they rip America apart and do cause bloodshed by distractions and micro conflicts of the people. They need us distracted while they loot their last bit before it all crumbles. They know the crumbling is guaranteed so they fear not. They do not realize they will be marked persons after a collapse either way, by citizens and other country’s regardless. They wont be able to leave out in peace with their billions. Like a bank robber on the run always looking over their shoulders. I can only assume they will run to a far away country for protection when shtf here hoping to remain out of reach of the wrath of the American citizens. However, their will always be a bigger, badder criminal (or marxist) focusing on taking their stuff no matter where they run. I would not want to be on the other side of millions of pissed off American patriots. No matter how much money They stole they will have no peace and no prosperity until they become worm food. They will be shaken down for money while they live in their mansions in foreign lands by that country’s dictator. Idiots. Somehow they think they will all retire and live in a working American society as if their actions had no repercussions.
There is always blowback, always.