Doug Casey: Nanotechnology Will Turn Science Fiction Into Reality

Via Casey Research

Chris’ note: Chris Reilly here, managing editor for Casey Daily Dispatch.

As regular readers know, our founder, Doug Casey, believes times are about to get ugly – economically and politically. But it’s not all bad news.

Doug also says new advancements in science and technology will create the biggest change in human history.

And there’s one technology that stands out from the rest: nanotechnology.

Doug says when it comes into its own, within the next generation, “All of history will be rewritten as the pre-nanotech era and the post-nanotech era.”

These are bold statements. But read today’s Conversations With Casey and you’ll see why. Below, Doug breaks it all down for me…


Chris Reilly, managing editor, Casey Daily Dispatch: Hi, Doug. First off, what exactly is nanotechnology? And how is it going to change the world?

Doug Casey, founder, Casey Research: As I pointed out numerous times in these conversations and elsewhere, technology has been advancing at the rate of Moore’s Law for the past 200,000 years. That curve finally passed the knee joint and has been going towards vertical for the last 200 years. But heretofore a major thrust of technology has been to make things smaller. You’ve seen the computer fall from room size to iPhone size. That’s true with all electronics. You’ve seen engines go from big, inefficient steam engines to small, highly efficient jet turbines. Miniaturization has been great. It almost always makes things lighter, more efficient, and cheaper.

Nanotechnology, however, takes a totally different approach. Nanotechnology is all about engineering things from a molecular level and making them larger. In essence, it’s the construction of machines, atom by atom, using molecular-sized assemblers, guided by molecular-sized supercomputers. I did a chapter on this in Crisis Investing for the Rest of the ’90s. At the time, not one person in 100 had ever heard of nanotech, or had a clue what it was. In its ultimate form, nanotech – the use of molecular-sized assemblers and supercomputers – will change the character of reality itself. Totally and unrecognizably.

It amounts to pixie dust, making it possible to manipulate the 92 naturally occurring elements into basically anything, cheaply and easily. Imagine an infinitely powerful 3-D printer. But that’s too conservative an image. Better, imagine a pile of dirt that – based on what the assemblers are instructed to do by the supercomputers – self-assembles into anything you can imagine. That’s the ultimate evolution. It’s hard to predict when that will happen. But I suspect that science fiction is way too conservative. Especially in regard to its time horizons.

Looking just at the present and very near future, however, it’s becoming possible to fabricate totally new materials, like carbon nanotubes, that are vastly more capable than any “natural” material.

Progress is being made, albeit slower than I expected. We can – in fact this was first done 30 years ago – manipulate individual atoms and move them around to spell words. Admittedly, that’s something of a sophisticated parlor trick with limited practical applications. But it gives you an idea of what has already been done.

But here’s the point that I’m making. When we arrive at the point where submicroscopic assemblers – guided by submicroscopic supercomputers – can disassemble compounds and reform them into different compounds and then reassemble those into large objects, literally anything becomes possible. We will have created, in effect, pixie dust you’ll be able to throw on the ground. Then, if it’s programmed to, it will pick out atoms of any of the 92 naturally occurring elements, and assemble them into anything that you’d like. It’s literally magic.

That’s the ultimate evolution of nanotechnology. That’s the direction that it’s ultimately headed towards.

Chris: Now, you mentioned before that you’ve actually met Eric Drexler, who many call “the godfather of nanotechnology.” How did that come about?

Doug: For 30 years I ran something called the Eris Society, here in Aspen, Colorado, where I’m talking to you from right now. At those conferences, which were strictly invitation only, we had people that were leading lights in many fields. Everybody from Paul MacCready, the inventor of the Gossamer Condor, and Burt Rutan, the designer of SpaceShipOne, and Phil Zimmermann, who invented Pretty Good Privacy (PGP), all the way to Sonny Barger, President of the Hells Angels, and Stewart Brand, who founded the Whole Earth Catalog. It was a fairly eclectic group. Lots of famous authors and people who’d done something outstanding, or weird.

We’d hang out for three days, most attendees giving a speech on what they knew about or were doing, and get to know each other. Eric Drexler is, in fact, the godfather of nanotechnology and wrote the seminal book Engines of Creation. He was standing on the shoulders of Richard Feynman, who first explored the concept in a speech he delivered in 1959 called “There’s Plenty of Room at the Bottom.” As you’d expect, Drexler is a very bright guy. I got to know Eric at Eris, though I haven’t kept up with him since then. But, it was clear to me that this is the way technology would eventually be the ultimate evolution of the material world.

Chris: So where does nanotechnology go from here?

Doug: The first big applications will be in material science and biotech. The centerpiece, the star of the show, is the carbon atom. Let me retail a few basic facts. The carbon atom has some unique advantages. It’s a simple atom, with an atomic number of only six, and a light atom, with an atomic weight just over 12. Because of the way it’s structured, it can form extremely large chains with itself, and complex ones with other elements. As I’m sure you know, carbon is central to all life as we know it. Every living thing is built around the carbon atom, and we know of at least 10 million different carbon compounds. That last fact is why carbon and nanotech will be huge in the biotech arena.

One relatively trivial biotech application would be the creation of tiny machines which, released into your bloodstream, would cleanse your arteries of plaque. Or attack cancer cells very precisely and selectively – no more necessity to use surgery, radiation, or chemotherapy. We’ll look back at cutting, burning and poisoning cancers as primitive, the way we now see 19th century medicine.

But perhaps the first mass nanotech application will be with graphene. That material is pure carbon, like graphite or diamond, but in the form of a film only an atom thick. It’s extremely light, but much stronger than steel. How about a bulletproof vest that weighs nothing and is practically invisible?

It will revolutionize construction and architecture because it’s so ultralight. And flight. And spacecraft. It’s going to be huge when it finally comes into its own. It could be one of the biggest things since the start of the Industrial Revolution. The problem, of course, is cost. And making mass production economic. But costs are dropping exponentially. Just give it time.

Chris: It all sounds great. But do you think the advancement of nanotech could cause any serious problems?

Doug: People’s psychologies are always the ultimate problem, not technology. The aberrations that seem hard-wired in the human mind. It’s almost a replay from H.G. Wells’ book The Time Machine, which was written more than 100 years ago, where the human race has speciated into Morlocks and Eloi. I wonder if a variety of that scenario isn’t happening even now… but that’s a different subject.

Most individuals are tolerably rational in their own lives. But the more of them you put together in a group, it seems the lower the common denominator has to be. The larger the group, the more it acts like a mob, and the more dangerous it is. This is the problem with the global consciousness being fostered by the mass media, social media and the Internet. Humans seem to be mutating into a hive mind. Or various hive minds.

Meanwhile, the technology is advancing, as I said, at the rate of Moore’s Law, and the curve is now going vertical. That’s the good news. Technology is making it possible for humans to do almost anything imaginable.

The bad news is that we’re still basically naked apes. Highly evolved chimpanzees, melding into a hive mind. Unfortunately, our psychological makeup hasn’t changed since the days of monkeys beating each other on the head with sticks. There hasn’t been serious evolution in moral thinking, or philosophical thinking, for many years. In fact, you can argue – just based upon the 20-odd people who want to be the Democratic candidate for President – that the level of philosophical, economic, moral, and political thinking is actually degrading.

This is a gigantic problem. It’s one thing when monkeys can attack each other with sticks. It’s something else when they can attack each other with not just atomic weapons, but things that are much more advanced. Which is going to be the case with nanotechnology.

Naturally, one of the objections to advancing nanotechnology is: What will happen if “bad guys” get control of it, and unleash it? Well, of course that’s a problem. But it’s just a subset of the bigger problem we’ve just discussed. Namely, “What could possibly go wrong if you give nanotech to smart, but ethically primitive chimps?” But here’s an even better question: “What if the assemblers themselves get out of control, on their own?” What if it turns into something like the Sorcerer’s Apprentice from the Disney cartoon that everybody’s seen? If the assemblers and computers keep replicating each other at a geometric rate, isn’t that going to turn the whole world into a massive grey goo?

Well, that’s theoretically possible. Probably not practically possible. But who’s to say? Remember, nanotech in its ultimate form is going to be not only the biggest thing that’s ever happened, but perhaps the biggest thing you can imagine. Among other things, it can probably solve the problem of life itself – at least if you assume life is a purely physical phenomenon. That being the case, I’d say any risk is worth taking.

I think about the possibilities because I’m essentially a solipsist. There are many varieties of solipsism. But essentially solipsism holds that anything that you can imagine is possible, and all of reality is basically a creation of your mind. So, yeah, things could get really wild and crazy in the future with technology in general, and nanotechnology in particular.

Although its evolution’s been slower than I expected so far, it too is advancing at the rate of Moore’s Law. It’s going to be magic. Just hopefully not black magic.

That said, there’s much more cause for optimism than pessimism.

Chris: Thanks for taking the time to speak with me today, Doug.

Doug: You’re welcome.

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57 Comments
KaD
KaD
January 11, 2020 12:55 pm

More likely it’ll be weaponized and turn life into a living hell.

M G
M G
  KaD
January 11, 2020 5:02 pm

Probably already is.

M G
M G
January 11, 2020 5:08 pm

As we approach “the Singularity” technology will change so rapidly it will become impossible to keep up with.

I dunno what it is but it is coming.

youknowwhoIam
youknowwhoIam
January 11, 2020 6:17 pm

The bad guys ALWAYS control everything and use it to the detriment of mankind (That is, until Jesus arrives again. Jesus, come quickly). What a fucking planet we live on. Of all the billions of planets out there that surely support life, why the fuck did we have to end up here? Imagine living in a place where you weren’t a slave all of your life to some despotic government- local, state, fed, or otherwise… or be attacked by some scum sucking satanic group who controls all of the technology.

Just take a good look at these:

https://www.space.com/34171-hubble-telescope-ultra-deep-field-photos.html

Where would you like to be?

M G
M G
  youknowwhoIam
January 11, 2020 7:07 pm

Hold it right there youknowwhoIam…

“Jesus, come quickly” followed by that tirade?

M G
M G
  M G
January 11, 2020 7:52 pm

Just a reminder that a donation goes a long way toward making your opinion a must read, Doug.

youknowwhoIam
youknowwhoIam
  M G
January 11, 2020 8:36 pm

MG,
First, no one “must” read my opinions. Second, I don’t know who “Doug” is-it ain’t me. Thirdly, “fuck” is word and a word only-only people give it an emotional attachment. Jesus doesn’t care. And we are all completely justified in being PISSED at what is going on around this planet. Remember, Jesus wiped out a city, and all the land masses for that matter. He gets a little pissed once in a while too. Blessings. Looks like two different MG’s are posting

Donkey
Donkey
  youknowwhoIam
January 12, 2020 2:18 am

2 different M Gs? Haha, hard to keep track. I’m up to 5.

M G
M G
  Donkey
January 12, 2020 8:10 am

Donkey, i am sometimes on my phone and sometimes on my PC and sometimes on my other PC and if at a library, I put in whatever email address I feel like and either say it is me or not.

By the way? My other PC is my husband’s PC which really, as I’ve explained, also belongs to me.

If I’m logged in here writing (which I am) I am with neighbor lady walking. If on phone I am a variety of MGs.

As long as no malicious nonsense ensues, it will be me when I say it is me.

youknowwhoIam
youknowwhoIam
  M G
January 12, 2020 10:48 am

guess the avatars are random even if you post from the same computer and don’t put in an email

M G
M G
  youknowwhoIam
January 12, 2020 5:13 pm

Yes. And it is set up that way NOT to be malicious, but to encourage open participation.

Whatever sort of Agenda Setting anyone perceives going on here at TBP, I personally believe it is not Admin’s intent. I see it this way… If, as I posit, Jim Quinn (not the shock jock) really wants to promote a platform upon which all viewpoints are welcome, as described eloquently in Aeropagitica as a “fair playing field.”

Being able to post anonymously encourages participation from lurkers who might have wonderful things to contribute.

Over the years, some have abused many privileges granted by those who really are the boss of things. I truly believe, like Milton proposed, that when given a fair playing field, where Truth must grapple with Falsehood, Truth will reign victorious.

I appreciate TBP for giving us all a chance to talk about this on Doug Casey’s post today. It is probably the most comments any of his posts has had here in a long time.

If he would make that donation to TBP as suggested, I could comment on his posts again and again like this.

All year.

https://www.dartmouth.edu/~milton/reading_room/areopagitica/text.html

M G
M G
  M G
January 12, 2020 8:03 pm

I hope Yo realizes we are all trying to find consensus in a world gone mad and sometimes, loquacious comments are good distractors from total assholes gonna ass.

Donkey
Donkey
  M G
January 12, 2020 1:55 pm

No worries, it’s fun.

M G
M G
  Donkey
January 12, 2020 8:07 pm

Anyone hear from Stucky? A memorial service notice or place to send remembrance?

I would actually volunteer to help collect the nice comments and compile a “From TBP to Stucky: A Tribute to Ms. Freud” as soon as I edit and post this monstrous piece of shit about womens fiction.

ursel doran
ursel doran
January 11, 2020 9:08 pm

Sir Admin, further to do a quick google on Soft Robots.

I had never heard of them until I met a grad student here getting a masters in the technology.
Fabulous integration of tiny tiny batteries, software, metallurgy or plastics, creating small to tiny intelligent robots. Guy left Reno to do a PHD at Harvard. The On line photos of some of them are astounding.

BL
BL
  ursel doran
January 11, 2020 10:41 pm

This is an interesting thread/subject, at least it is not about El Trump.

To prove that the imagining is true, Yobo willed something my way and I found a tag on my new MB that reads “AH1933”. Splain that you doubters.

I have been gone to the Ozarks to a hospice where my lifelong friend is dying from cancer. That cannot be changed…..sigh.

What if we could use nano tech to reconstruct a person.

M G
M G
  BL
January 12, 2020 8:43 am

Ah, I finally got the courage to visit my walking neighbor and husband, returned home yesterday from several days gone due to abrupt diagnosis (husband) of pancreatic cancer. She looks shell-shocked, as Stucky must be feeling now. Their little cottage within a mile of two of their three children was warm and cozy and my dish of fresh pasta salad and vegetables joined other dishes gathering on the table. Though there are no other people in sight, we know they are there.

The third child will be arriving from Indiana probably today and that pasta salad is a good thing to have around.

BL, you have been in my thoughts. Every time I think about the “Blesseds” as Poppa Grooch called them. The Bea Attitudes have been on my mind a lot.

I know there was a post about the dog dewormer curing cancer, but I couldn’t really find a way to suggest to a dignified man who lived his life the way he was taught and never smoked, drank or cheated on his wife and raised three kids whose characters and lives reflect their parents devotion to them that he needed dewormer. That is something I will trust the Lord to lead him to if that is what he needs.

Llpoh
Llpoh
January 12, 2020 5:37 am

There are incredible tech feats just around the corner. AI is developing by leaps and bounds, and tech companies are spending vast sums on it. In the next twenty years some mighty leaps will be made. If we do not obliterate ourselves first, of course.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  Llpoh
January 12, 2020 8:20 am

“And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.”