The UFO Problem

Guest Post by The Zman

Tucker Carlson has a UFO problem. Going back to the start of his Fox show, he has done segments on various claims about space aliens visiting earth. These are not claims by people, who swear they have been probed by big gray men, but the claims of people who worked in government at one time or another. He has even interviewed people, who worked on government UFO programs. Recently he had former Pentagon people on to talk about this story of a secret UFO file.

People like these sorts of stories, even if they don’t believe in little green men secretly visiting our planet. It’s fun to think about what it would be like if we did verify such visitations from another world. Tucker is not a kook, so his interest in this topic should not be dismissed out of hand. The American government has taken the issue seriously, at least according to that recent story. So much so they have had top men working on it for a very long time. They think it could be true.

The crux of the matter is that pilots have, on multiple occasions, recorded objects buzzing around in ways that cannot be explained. At least they look like objects in the videos released to the public. In these videos, pilots and crew can be heard asking questions about what they are seeing. No official explanation has been offered, so we are left to assume they don’t know either. It seems that on many occasions, American fighter pilots have spotted UFO’s.

Now, it has to be said that many of these could simply be clever pranks by servicemen with too much free time. Every year someone gets busted for making a contrail penis in the sky, so these guys like pranks. Others could simply be anomalies that have a boring technical explanation, so no one bothers with them. Maybe this is just another part of how the government keeps people distracted. The secret UFO files are just part of the ongoing psyops to distract the public from noticing too much.

The trouble with the various ways of dismissing the UFO stuff is it often sounds as conspiratorial as the theories explaining why these are visiting aliens. Repeatedly, we see that the people running the American government are too dumb to execute the basic functions of the state. It’s unlikely they are working a complex, multi-generational deception involving fake UFO video. The people who use text messages to plot sedition are not going to be working such a complicated scheme.

What the facts tell us about this stuff is the American government has recorded lots of these events and they remain unexplained. There is a good chance other militarizes have had similar experiences. The Russians and Chinese probably have divisions that collect up and examine unexplained phenomenon. It’s not out of the question that there is some contact between these government agencies, at least an acknowledgement that they exist for the same reasons.

The two possible explanations for the evidence are that it is the result of some completely unknown natural phenomenon or it is space aliens. Both answers would mean large gaps in our understanding of the natural world. Theoretical physicists have been at a dead end for a long time. Space exploration has been stalled for generations. Our understanding of our natural world is at its infancy. These phenomena could simply be more proof that we don’t know a whole lot.

Of course, if these are space aliens, it means some species well beyond our understanding has solved problems we cannot contemplate. For example, our best science is not all that sure humans can live in space long enough to travel beyond Mars and back, without dangerous physical consequences. If we are being visited by aliens, it means they solved the problem of carbon based life forms living in space for long periods without being destroyed by radiation.

It would also mean these aliens conquered the physical problem of traveling between galaxies. That means they either live long enough to go light years into space or they have invented propulsion devices that allow for speeds beyond anything we think is possible with what we know of physics. Alternatively, they have found a way to fold space in order to move from one location to another. Instead of physically traveling through space, they make space travel for them.

All of the possible explanations for how visitors from another world raise the age-old science fiction movie paradox. How could a race so advanced be so easily caught on our primitive video? If they have the ability to bend space, they will have the ability to bend light or at least have really good camouflage. They would see our primitive airships long before we were able to see them. These videos contradict the one possible answer for why they exist in the first place.

The answer to that could simply be that they are observing us and part of it is to see how humans react to limited exposure to the possibility of aliens. This could be nothing more than part of the simulation that is our existence. You can come up with all sorts of entirely unprovable explanations for why super intelligent space aliens are getting caught on video. If you want to believe in UFO’s, there’s always a way to maintain the belief in the face of this type of skepticism.

There is one other angle to the UFO stuff. It feeds the need to believe that our governments have super-secret stuff hidden away in super-secret government agencies run by X-Files types. For some reason, people need to believe this. It’s probably because deep down, people won’t except that their government is staffed by stupid people who got lucky. The fate of the world depends on a series or average people guessing the right way or making the right mistakes.

That could be the real psyop. The people in charge know that the rest of us need to think they have things under control. The fake UFO footage is intended to promote the idea that our government has these super-secret programs. If people believe that, they will believe the government screw-ups over foreign policy or economic affairs are really part of some super-secret scheme involving deep state actors. The real psyop is covering up the fact that we are ruled by lucky dimwits.

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Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
January 17, 2020 8:41 am

Theoretical physicists have been at a dead end for a long time.

Eau contraire !

The problem with theoretical physics is these people invent too much lunacy leaving real physics problems unsolved. They invented Big Bang, black holes, neutron stars, pulsars, higgs boson, multidimensional ‘space time’, magnetic reconnections and all manner of things that have absolutely no empirical evidence to back them up. Their colleagues then take their bullshit word for it and run in a direction that leads nowhere.

These people get paid to dream up shit. They ARE the problem in physics today.

Why Bad Science Spreads:

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
January 17, 2020 8:48 am

You ever seen a clip of a deer or a bear looking into the lens of a trail camera?

That’s an approximate equivalent of someone getting a UFO on camera.

Given the option of an inexplicable natural phenomenon that has not yet been fully understood or a advanced extraterrestrial intelligence travelling across the galaxies for a secretive visit, which strikes you as more believable?

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 17, 2020 9:23 am

Neither.

Advanced systems were paid for by the 21 Trillion unaccounted for by the DOD. That money went somewhere. It invented things yet to be announced to the people the money was stolen from.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Solutions Are Obvious
January 17, 2020 9:34 am

Sure it did.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Solutions Are Obvious
January 17, 2020 9:41 am

I agree. These UFOs are our own government’s experiments. Remember the “Iron Mountain Report,” in which aliens invade, and world government is needed to combat them? Oh, please. But stupid people will believe it. This is a prelude to that. Why, all of a sudden, are government employees “coming clean” on sightings? It’s all planned.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Vixen Vic
January 17, 2020 9:54 am

I hope they’ve upped their game since the lunar module. Looks like a crack head’s tree fort.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 17, 2020 10:30 am

My experience as a tree fort owner has caused my tastes to be more discerning. I refuse to travel in any lunar module that doesn’t have a wood burning stove capable of heating up spaghettios or Dinty Moore beef stew.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  Iska Waran
January 17, 2020 12:08 pm

And it must have a trap door in the corner.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  messianicdruid
January 17, 2020 8:42 pm

Dont forget dirty magazines and firing ports.

John Galt
John Galt
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 17, 2020 11:44 pm

No worse than leprechaun sightings in Mobile Alabama…several years ago, or the recent politician claiming a squirrel spoke to him at the park in DC. Lmao

M G
M G
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 18, 2020 10:42 am

There was one of those landing capsules in the Kirkpatrick Center in OKC… the ones that supposedly got them back to earth and dropped into the sea for pickup?

In the early 90s, I really did let the boys climb around on it. Almost no one went into that room in the Omniplex then (90s). I let them climb on it because I thought it was a model. After they renovated, updated and started charging big bucks for entry there, they roped it off and apparently, it was ONE of the ones moonwalkers splashed down in. I have pictures of my kid climbing on it. Shhhhhhh…..

It was where the AWACS stuff was though so I was partial to the room.

Elsie Begay
Elsie Begay
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 20, 2020 11:17 am

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One Light Year From Earth Hardscrabble

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 17, 2020 9:50 am

I will pick option D….all of the above. There have been awesome advances in physics….quantum computing is here baby, we have numerous natural phenomenon for which we have no explanation (Sasquatch!) and of course, the rat bastards in the deep state really did spend at least some of the missing Trillions on cool secret squirrel stuff.

The Fermi paradox is still a very interesting question…..basically, it seems logical based on what we know about the universe that it should be teeming with life….so where the hell is everybody?

https://www.seti.org/seti-institute/project/fermi-paradox

The Tic Tac and other videos, the WWII Foo Fighters and the countless other observations of UFO’s, USO’s etc. if even one was real…well there you go.

There is seldom a single cut and dried answer to anything….

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Martel's Hammer
January 17, 2020 10:36 am

Re: Fermi paradox: probably what happens is that once the aliens discover weed, they’re incapacitated by its component chemical called fuggit.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Martel's Hammer
January 17, 2020 10:48 am

I actually believe more in Bigfoot than UFOs being aliens.

KaD
KaD
  Martel's Hammer
January 17, 2020 9:23 pm

I can give you the explanation I’ve read. Sasquatch is a result of human-animal crossing done by the Atlanteans before they got over their head and sank their island.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  KaD
January 18, 2020 3:43 am

Or they were created ape-like highly intelligent beings that have survived by avoiding humans. Remember, there were reports of gorillas that weren’t believed for decades until someone finally found them in the jungle. And look how they’ve suffered since. Think King Kong.

Prof. Mandelbrot
Prof. Mandelbrot
  Martel's Hammer
January 17, 2020 11:45 pm

Let us not forget The Mandelbrot Theory….

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 17, 2020 10:08 am

farmer,
you brought up trail cameras–i use the weather channel 4 checking the weather & at the bottom of the page there are always videos you can can click–
a couple of days ago a buck was caught on a trail camera shaking off his antlers —
it was a very cool shot–

Elsie Begay
Elsie Begay
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 17, 2020 6:50 pm

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  Elsie Begay
January 18, 2020 10:37 am

????

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
January 17, 2020 8:50 am

“The two possible explanations for the evidence are that it is the result of some completely unknown natural phenomenon or it is space aliens.”

A third explanation is that these are naturally created beings, albeit very different from us, as explained by the Bible.

credit
credit
  grace country pastor
January 17, 2020 9:34 am

perhaps low intelligence beings that live in “space” and occasionally enter the atmosphere. or inter-dimensional beings, or human time travelers from the future, or a previous catastrophe’s “break-away” society, or the Germans in Antarctica or God himself. but clearly there are more than just 2 possibilities.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  credit
January 17, 2020 9:56 am

Nope, just two.

Of Earthly origin, or extraterrestrial.

Unless you’ve got proof of another Universe or dimension, that’s all we’ve got.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 17, 2020 11:40 am

Let’s call angels, cherubim, seraphim extraterrestrial then.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  grace country pastor
January 17, 2020 10:35 pm

According to the former linguist and translator of ancient languages for the Vatican, Maurice Biglino, the seraphim/cherubim were an experiment in artificial intelligence that went catastrophically wrong. He also says his Vatican bosses were fully aware of his findings, including the ones where Humans were an genetically engineered hybrid species whose lifespan of a 1000 years was scaled back to under 100 when They decided that humans were just a bit too smart and uppity. He says they have known about these writings for many centuries but no one understood them until the last recent decades.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Coalclinker
January 18, 2020 4:48 am

Ok.

Elsie Begay
Elsie Begay
  Coalclinker
January 31, 2020 4:05 pm

The Seraphim live inside the Fire Realm, They are peculiar, and I do not gamble to suppose to share with you that you too have seen at least one in a dream. They come from lowest chakra up nto your socket immobile. Tongue tired for centuries of insolence four hundred and thirty three million increments like a honey bee passing through our consciousness, only there are four hundred and thirty three million between each and every second , how the skies of conscioussness look when the floor drops away and hemisphered filled with the core of the earth’s fillament hot as Sin, later the Octopus like seven rotating locks on wings defies your curcuits and vehemence if ever sown , reaps.

The Seraphim are hidden treasures in linguistical writings like fiction , where you read it you become the incantation it was looking for a host and now that it has isolated obscura dimension as though if you agree to it (The Liberator) Terms of endearment it will rip your head off from the inside after it crawls up inside filled with light be
yond measure as though , that piece of your flesh that is missing or never there was the sacrifice of your self worth so it the Seraphim could find you later and share the Glory of Christ Almighty through shamanic practices heralded hermetic asanine.

There is a whole lot missing from this . After the Seraphim departs shell (mined) Mind in eighty thousand pieces without coordination. This swarmed initially many times again and again. If I found honey bees early on . They are integrated with the Octopus like a manifest destiny. Somehow our Government knows of this descriptive pattern in their records of importance dependent upon whom is Home. Of course they come in sideways faster than you could think straight logic sane as grass, Oh! there you are, ET is not really important although Angels are Real Angels. The title of this post refers to // Seraphim are hot , trying to divert attention away; the best ever sentience of Seraphim is a Poem by Saint Teresa about her Ecstasy with it and pulled her through to the “OTHERSIDE” .

Baptism in Fire, each of the four hundred and thirty three million increments that are birthed through our thought canal between each and every second like they are suns of the cosmos peering inside from the host of seraphim ,silence , yet visually Roiled beyond imagination, the intensity from which forth Glorious arises , without your body , as it re testifies with earth (Holy Spirit) relinquishes value and you become the Testimony for the Lord , the one of Light in Heaven that shines for you, us, everyone. Kinda sorta walking us through creation , much to slow for this non patience typist , corrupted through decadence. Of course this will have to go through it again , only it is not feared in any way, (the crux of the manifest problem)

M G signalling Nova Scotia
M G signalling Nova Scotia
  Elsie Begay
January 31, 2020 4:11 pm

Elsie Begay (nice name) said “Tongue tired for centuries of insolence four hundred and thirty three million increments like a honey bee passing through our consciousness, only there are four hundred and thirty three million between each and every second , how the skies of conscioussness look when the floor drops away and hemisphered filled with the core of the earth’s fillament hot as Sin, later the Octopus like seven rotating locks on wings defies your curcuits and vehemence if ever sown , reaps.”

As soon as I saw the Octopus imagery I realized Elsie needs to meet Nova Scotia and compare notes on Odin.

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messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 17, 2020 12:20 pm

What will you accept as spoof ?

Ginger
Ginger
  messianicdruid
January 17, 2020 2:57 pm

This is what might be HF in his younger years.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  grace country pastor
January 17, 2020 9:35 am

That would fall under the “unknown natural phenomenon” heading.

Elsie Begay
Elsie Begay
  grace country pastor
January 31, 2020 3:37 pm

Sir or Madame; “The Liberator” by Rene Magritte to comfort as Spiritual Blessings, the way the Lord could come into our consciousness is not for all, though if your are not conditioned to “ollywood” the H put away for safekeeping , a spiritual awakening comes for its ROI to those that are still in the quietest moments where timeless seems confluent with Ectstasy , not the drug the Isotope with Glory that Hallelujah could not ever really be locked away for millions of years. The pillowtop covered with quartz crystal eased from Crystal Park Montnana as any midwife shy of would you believe neighbor, THis has been working night as day for four full months straight, although divided without mota vation from praising my Ancestors , and yours Namaste.

This sight could one day become obsolete , How could you find this, Today January 31, 2020 and this post is deep under the Burning Platforms Front Page.
For those that want to know;
taken from a story about an old native living in a cabin in the middle of Wyoming and how to share the breadcrumbs with the mice already inside for the winter, that way they don’t eat your entire loaf.
Dole it out Timing of a Merlin;

The Liberator , Rene Magritte

anarchyst
anarchyst
January 17, 2020 8:52 am

I may be way out in left field here, but it is just a thought. It is a possibility, however remote that world governments HAVE been in contact with alien species for some time now.

The present “push” for” worldwide disarmament of civilian populations may be a part of the “plan”. Although alien species may have superior and more advanced technology, they still “bleed” the same way humans do. Any “takeover” would be a problem for them, as the amount of firearms both in the USA and worldwide is still substantial and there are those who would “resist” an overt takeover.

It is possible that world governments are in “cahoots” with alien types and are receptive to a “takeover”.
I hope that I am wrong, BUT, one never knows…

The “prime directive” is alive and well. This is an unwritten rule among advanced species NOT to interfere in the normal development of other species. The only time interference is warranted is if a promising species is in danger of annihilating itself or gravely harming itself due to its own shortsightedness and stupidity.

We have exposed our nuclear weapons ambitions by above-ground nuclear weapons testing. These tests produce a unique “double flash” signature that is easily observable from space. It would appear that we have advertised our nuclear capabilities.

It is likely that we have been “visited” and “observed” in the past. There are medieval paintings with UFOs clearly painted by the artists. Unexplainable “lights in the sky” and “strange beings” have been a part of human folklore for the extent of human history.

It is possible that we have “reverse engineered” alien craft. Note the “quantum leap” forward when “solid state” electronics and integrated circuits replaced vacuum tubes (“valves” to you Britishers).

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  anarchyst
January 17, 2020 9:16 am

I don’t think you’re nearly as far out as you might assume. I also don’t think they “bleed” as it were. “They” already exist in eternal bodies, thus the need for a holding chamber.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  anarchyst
January 17, 2020 9:37 am

When we make attempts to study, say bees or ants, do we make contact with the queen and her court?

If you can travel between galaxies you’re probably developed enough to understand governments for what they are.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 17, 2020 9:54 am

Except for our Buddhist friends….how many folks go out of their way to avoid stepping on an ant much less the bacteria we can’t even see….a billion-year-old civilization might see us as lower than bacteria in terms of advancement. I also don’t reject the Aliens/Spiritual being’s argument either.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Martel's Hammer
January 18, 2020 7:10 am

I thought the Jains were the ones that didn’t step on ants and such. And that’s basically an India religion.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 18, 2020 6:58 am

If you’ve ever worked with bees (or ants) then you know the queen and her court have to be kept kind of safe and secure or the whole damn colony will revolt.

A little smoke (dope) helps.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  anarchyst
January 17, 2020 9:44 am

I think you’re way off left base.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Vixen Vic
January 17, 2020 9:56 am

All your left base are belong to us.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anarchyst
January 17, 2020 11:57 pm

Why is Antarctica off limits…..

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Anonymous
January 18, 2020 3:56 am

We’d all love to know that. Especially since so many so-called “elites” have been visiting there recently.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Vixen Vic
January 19, 2020 8:50 am

It’s the penguins. No, really.

Apple
Apple
January 17, 2020 10:13 am

What no one ever considers is that they arent space aliens and have always been here. I dunno, hollow earth maybe or out of phase in time and space, or maybe right here in our solar system. Maybe the government knows exactly who and what they are but arent telling. Lots of possibilities. Not nearly as black and white as this author makes it.

Gabby
Gabby
  Apple
January 17, 2020 11:28 am

They are under the dominion of our Lord in Heaven and are his “Angels”. If you really really want to see, get right with the Lord , or at least some kind of path , because you will need the path with what you learn ,and if you don’t have a path you will go crazy with fright. “The Sacrament” or Magic Mushrooms , will connect you with our operator. A good article, Writers the keys are to ask certain questions ,therefore. Our species is entwined to certain conditions of cognition. There is no such thing as “alien”; we are all related. If you call them anything other than angels then it is moot; dead end. There are two artist whom know the same distillate as am learning .

Wallace Stevens and Renee Maggritte. Especially Magritte, literally and visually. They are not going to come to you , you have to seek them , they are Angels . Why would a human seek to learn of Angels? What is the dissonance between height. I have a lode of stories to tell that is catching up with my life.
Sand Paintings Navajo Medicine Men. There are cultures in contact and have been your centuries. The clues are in our faces , yet we prevent acquiescent of knowledge based upon our contingency to reflect the false mirrors of consciousness , or the way the mind automatically “fills in the blank”.

I was standing outside in a parking lot next to a young man with a scraggly beard and we were looking up in the sky at what appeared to be a Kingdom that was way way up based upon the way light highlighted the shapes of the vessel. The second attention consists of how long you can see without seeing without the focus turning into obsessive one pointedness but to move around viscerally . It looked bigger than the state of Texas, in the sky, it’s intricacies held my beliefs . There came a Trumpet from up high and I meld with its notes following what must have been the oscillations of machinations; it werent’musical, though if directed could reduce cities to cubits of dust , whatever size; measured. Angels. I looked at the young man next to me and started explaining to him what we were looking at and how to get inside (as though I knew, which I dont) and later realized he was not really human and was telepathically sharing insight into the Lord.

Our Lord is their Lord , and if you do not believe, then how shall you reconcile what is lost as missing from your very own vernacular of the universe, and where it is you are originally from, because it is not here, yet, who am I to deride your very intent with life itself , unless gravity were the “ado”you were looking at.

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45236/thirteen-ways-of-looking-at-a-blackbird

there is no problem with UFO’s. the problem is with our perception’s and extremely frail egos, and those certain specific type of human’s that require hard proof of everything are not necessarily ,chaff to wheat , though unable to attain the necessary cognition to venture beyond the armchair sidewalk.

https://www.google.com/search?q=rene+magritte+paintings&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiwps_hg4vnAhWBJ80KHeHYDgsQ_AUoAXoECBcQAw&biw=1348&bih=759

It takes time. years. Think; your very though processes through, it is were synapses comes within literally as a human you are always within reach of Angels terms. They could waltz right straight in your periphery of cognition, on the very words themselves. Like octopus.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Gabby
January 17, 2020 10:45 pm

Our “Bible” has a tendency to leave out some unpalatable elements of some of its “heroes”. For example, the scriptures tell us that Solomon had the Great Temple built in record time, and that it was all done at night, but leaves out the who and how. The Apocryphal “The Wisdom of Solomon” tells us the who and how, mainly by his control of his workforce of 72 Demons and their legions.

TS
TS
  Coalclinker
January 18, 2020 2:37 am

clunker –
You must be reading a whole different bible than I’ve studied for about 40 years. What I read shows those ‘heroes’ as human, warts and all. Some pretty unpalatable goings-on with the people in my NKJ version.
1 Kings 6;38 – And in the eleventh year, in the month of Bul, which is the eighth month, the house was finished in all its details and according to all its plans. So he was seven years in building it.
1 Kings 5: 13 through 18. It states that he raised a labor force of 30,000, to work in Lebanon. And another 70,000 to carry burdens and 80,000 who quarried stone.
7 years, and everything was already pre-cut, sized and labelled for the correct position. Record time?
You are misrepresenting scripture. In fact, lying.
And where does it state that it was only built at night?
So typical. Use some non-canon book as a reason to bad-mouth the recognized Word of God book. And to try and make someone – Solomon in this case – out to be evil and actually demonic.
Doesn’t say much about your character.
I think you’re deceived and to be pitied, but it’s still chickenshit and smarmy.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  TS
January 18, 2020 5:20 am

Solomon was an evil man, He worshiped an idol of one of his women, and his nation was cursed.
Also, since you’re questioning my character, you can go fuck your self. See how that works?
Rat turds such as yourself are so full of yourself that you can’t say in a few words what a real man can say in about six.

smarmy noobe on ufo aisle
smarmy noobe on ufo aisle
  Coalclinker
January 18, 2020 7:03 am

Are you NEW here?

TS
TS
  smarmy noobe on ufo aisle
January 18, 2020 9:29 am

Ya got me; I just started dabbling here a couple of days ago.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  smarmy noobe on ufo aisle
January 19, 2020 8:06 am

Nope, I’ve been around here for YEARS. I’ve also been telling newbies to fuck off for YEARS.

TS
TS
  Coalclinker
January 18, 2020 9:28 am

Language is a wonderful thing. Clear communication sometimes takes more than a grunt and a monosyllabic response.
See, NOW you’re being factual. He did do that. You know, one of the ‘unpalatable’ descriptions in the bible. He ended badly and God made sure everyone knows why. And there’s a whole lot more than just that. Abraham, Isaac, Moses, Rahab, Gideon; there’s a really long list of messed-up people who still were used by God for His purposes. It seems your completely ignoring, or ignorant of, the whole point of showing them like they were; fallen humans doing fallen-human stuff. Highlights the whole concept of grace and the consequences of ignoring God’s stated guidelines under the Mosaic covenant, disobedience and idolatry.
So how’s about actually dealing with the gist of your comment. If you repeat a lie, whether intentional or not, you are propagating a lie. Which makes that lie-spreader a what?

Research is a wonderful thing, if you actually do it. Otherwise you’re a CNN reporter.

Manuscript forensics show that ‘The Wisdom of Solomon’ was written sometime after the Resurrection, about a thousands years after Solomon. Accuracy would not be one if its strong points. A very poor choice of reference, especially if compared to Kings, Proverbs and Ecclesiastes.
I notice you’re ignoring the fact that you were scripturally wrong on who and how many built the 1st temple, that it was built only at night, and the concept that God would allow demons to build His house.
So how does ‘go fuck yourself’ refute my observation? It’s a knee-jerk reaction to avoid actually dealing with the inaccuracies I am confronting you about.
So, yeah, I question your agenda, your desire to actually know what you’re talking about and your ability to assess whether or not you are accurate.
In a word, I question your character. And unless I see something to cause me to reconsider, I will continue to do so.

Too bad I won’t be coming back to this thread to see your expected rant. Er, excuse me; your response. This post is now history on TBP. But I will be watching for your moniker.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  TS
January 19, 2020 8:06 am

I was here long before your dragged your muddy feet on the front porch. I don’t know who you are and don’t particularly care.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Gabby
January 18, 2020 12:01 am

Your shrooms may have gone bad. Jus sayin

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Anonymous
January 18, 2020 5:25 am

I don’t do mushrooms. A delusional projection. You can go fuck yourself, too.

Apple
Apple
January 17, 2020 10:23 am

Btw, if you can get ahold of a set, look up into the sky with gen 3 army nightvision. I swear you wont believe it if you get the chance to see it. Isaw stuff that looked like green 80’s video game play. ‘Asteroids’ looking space ships fighting and such. I mean its like looking out from the inside of an old video game. Fucking bizarre. People have footage on youtube, but they think its like an actual war in space or human technology. I subscribe to the theory that we live in a simulation, or video game depending how you look at it, so what i saw backs that up for me. Maybe it was gen 4. Whatever the newest tech is. Dont know if you can see it with the civilian nightvision.

John Galt
John Galt
  Apple
January 18, 2020 12:03 am

I have one and will do it later this weekend…somebody remind me and ask me later i will report

TS
TS
January 17, 2020 10:31 am

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TS
TS
January 17, 2020 10:36 am

This is about 2 hours long, so practically no one will watch it. But even the first couple of minutes are interesting.

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TS
TS
  TS
January 17, 2020 11:08 am

At 2:10

“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance – that principle is contempt (or condemnation) prior to investigation.”
Herbert Spencer.
I’m not sure why this is accredited to Edmund Spencer. Quite often people get Herbert Spencer and Edmund Spenser confused.

“Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.” — Albert Einstein

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  TS
January 17, 2020 12:28 pm

“He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.”

Nothing new under the sun.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TS
January 18, 2020 12:04 am

Demorats condemn first always. Height of ignorance. Yup

M G
M G
  TS
January 31, 2020 4:18 pm

I embarked upon a study of the philosophical lectures of Alan Watts recently.

My son suggested it and I find this one particularly fascinating.

https://youtu.be/YGyZ75sVn-c

overthecliff
overthecliff
January 17, 2020 10:45 am

Hoaxers making fun of crazy science fiction nuts .Government using the thread to distract the foolish.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 17, 2020 10:51 am

I’m in the farmers camp on this one.

fact:
if the information comes from your gov. then it is a lie.
if the information comes from your TV, then it is propaganda or entertainment.

if you think they could magically stuff that lunar rover, along with all the other gear you might want to bring to a moon camping trip, into that crappy little “foil covered lunar module”
then I have a bridge you might also be interested in purchasing.

Jdog
Jdog
January 17, 2020 10:56 am

There are 4 possibilities. They are from somewhere else. They are secret government projects. They are natural phenomena. Or they are from a different dimension. All we know for sure is that the government has been lying about their existence for decades.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 17, 2020 1:44 pm

It’s all true. Aliens are simply nephilim/ fallen angels and /or their abominable soulless creations, human/fallen angel offspring cast off and hidden over the aeons. Note that alien/human encounters always have a breeding/dna angle and they’re always humanoid. I’ve concluded the only reason they haven’t revealed themselves is that God is preventing them from meddling overtly with humanity. At some point there will be alien disclosure, a sign the age of grace is ending.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
January 17, 2020 2:04 pm

I will take a lie detector test and swear on the Bible that I have seen 3 UFOs within a 100 feet or so; the first was at night about 1973 in Callaway Florida as it flew over my house. It was at least 100 ft long, had 2 search lights pointing to it’s own bottom, and was certainly an underwater type UFO: there was a small “conning tower” on the bottom, may pipes like on a ship, and small lights around the edge. It made a sound like an industrial manufacturing floor in the summer will dozens of fast exhaust fans running wide open, and a heavy forge striking a very hard metal every few seconds. It blinked out my electric lights for the few seconds it was overhead. I didn’t report it because I as a 1st Lt with a TS Crypto clearance and I was sure they’d take it away. The second was about 1992 at the Tallahassee Fire Station on Appleyard; the classic 10 ft diameter disk with a bright light on the bottom and a small dome on the top; it was hovering about 150 ft high and precessing like a childs spinning top going slow. I took off after it to drive my truck under it but it shot off at a 45 degree angle up and looked like star in a few seconds. My son saw a UFO buzz overhead the same morning while he was waiting on the school bus. I reported it to the FAA, TAFB, local police, to Mobile Fla police and to the Thomasville Ga UFO guy the USAF recommended. The third was about 2000, torpedo shaped, about 100 ft long and 15 ft diameter; rounded in front and a cone in the rear with no fins, shiny as a mirror, no markings or sound, just over the trees and going about 50 mph. I yelled UFO over and over; several people came outside and also watched it sail to the horizon. I reported it to MUFON.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  robert h siddell jr
January 18, 2020 3:34 am

All happening around military installations?

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 17, 2020 3:16 pm

“They are not from outer space. There is no need for them to be. They have always been here.”
John A. Keel, The Mothman Prophecies

Elsie Begay
Elsie Begay
January 17, 2020 3:32 pm

Sirs or Madames,
Sincerest apologies for your interests of shine.
Tutelage Thank God Ledge our time importants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtJa5tkXJUw

Then Fools Gold from the Oven of working inside a Sugar Factor
rotating shift like full cycle of Wyoming Washer Winter Ache;
Remote views from facets reconfigured from Treasure at Crystal Park Montana
October 2019 , Next Lesson,
WORD

https://craigsfridge.wordpress.com/portfolio/vultures/

Elsie Begay
Elsie Begay
  Elsie Begay
January 17, 2020 6:52 pm

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Just a Medic
Just a Medic
January 17, 2020 4:01 pm

Repeatedly, we see that the people running the American government are too dumb to execute the basic functions of the state.

LOL! Bureaucrats, in general, are promoted repeatedly until they achieve incompetence.

Miles Long
Miles Long
  Just a Medic
January 17, 2020 6:00 pm

It’s called the Peter principle.

Elsie Begay
Elsie Begay
January 30, 2020 6:13 pm

There are Seven Locks (Gates)
If you see this then this could see you though “I” am just a trance typing backwards to people from the day of night.
I was psychically dismembered twent three years ago to the last molecule of this ego, transien Nirvana with a Remainder, Omega is hidden diametrically hungarian circus, I have the poetry (Codex) somewhere. It comes sideways and telemetry’s itself ceiling straight up (axis mundi) out of your body and looking straight up the axis of the universe , Sir or Madame, the probiscus retracts as you allay worry to the gnome caught in this charm, after
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Irvana calling for help!
Irvana calling for help!
  Elsie Begay
January 30, 2020 6:57 pm

Seriously… I think Andrea Kookoo is back.