When Will Authorities ‘Lockdown’ America (& How Long Will Quarentine Last)? Here’s What The Patterns Show Us

Authored by Daisy Luther via The Organic Prepper blog,

Yesterday the World Health Organization officially declared Covid-19 a pandemic (like we didn’t already know this.) As well, President Trump addressed the nation, closing American borders to all flights from Europe and announcing some ways he intends to help the people of the United States financially.

In unofficial terms, this is sh#t getting real.

Things are going to get worse – possibly much worse – before they get better. Illness completely aside, this will cause financial problems that many folks will feel for years after the pandemic is over.

The biggest question people are asking now is, “When?”

When will the US begin to see measures being taken to lockdown areas or put people into quarantine? What would that lockdown look like? How long will quarantines last?

We can look at how this has gone in other countries to get a general idea of the pattern. Of course, we’re Americans and we do things differently. Our geography is quite different as is our population density. So this isn’t an exact science. We’re looking at patterns to predict (not in a crystal ball kind of way but an analysis kind of way) what could happen here.

Here’s how things have gone in Italy and China.

We can still learn a lot from observing the patterns of the breakdowns there.

The United States is probably closer culturally to Italy and other European countries than we are to China. For example, Italy is far more concerned about human rights than China. However, geographically, we’re a lot more similar to China than we are to Italy. China has 9.3 million square kilometers and the United States has 9.1 million square kilometers. Meanwhile, Italy is 301,340 square kilometers.

Both of these things play a role in the spread of the virus and containment efforts.

What about China? Well, I don’t trust the numbers and information coming out of China to include them in this model by very much, but note that the situation of which we’re aware has been going on for about 8 weeks. The first cases of a mystery illness were heard of when Dr. Li Wenliang, who later died of the coronavirus, blew the whistle on China on December 30, 2019.

To our knowledge, the quarantines began in Wuhan on January 22So from the first patients to the initial lockdowns was 23 days. From the date the first noted illness became public to now has been 73 days. From the date of the first quarantines in Wuhan until now has been 51 days. Although the quarantine has been loosened, there are still serious restrictions on movement in China. The country may or may not be getting back to normal, depending on who you believe. If they are not getting back to normal, then this 7-week window is inaccurate.

Back to Europe. Italy, specifically.

On about the 20th of February, three cases of Covid-19 were confirmed in Northern Italy. Officials acted quickly to lock the area down but unfortunately, their quick actions weren’t enough. What began as a lockdown of a few villages in the Lombardy region in northern Italy on the 21st spread to a nationwide lockdown on March 9th.

From the first patients to local lockdowns was one day. From the first patients to the entire country being quarantined was 22 days. In just 22 days, the virus had spread to such a degree that an entire country has suspended mortgage payments, stopped all non-essential movement, and ceased business. Their medical system is so overwhelmed that they are forced to choose who to save and many people over 65 are not even assessed as the hospitals reserve their resources and space for those who have a higher chance of survival.

Less than a month ago, everything was normal in Italy. Tourists were making wishes at Trevi Fountain, people were enjoying sunny days having coffee with friends on a cafe patio, and businesses were thriving.

As of yesterday, Italy had 12,462 cases of Covid-19 and the death toll leapt from 196 to 827. In a day. Everything has been ordered closed except food stores and pharmacies.

This is how fast things can go.

And Italy is currently on day 25 since the first 3 cases were diagnosed. If it took China at least 50 days of quarantine, then Italy is potentially halfway through the worst of this outbreak.

Countries across Europe are slamming their borders shut in an effort to contain the virus. Whether they’ve acted soon enough remains to be seen.

Where is the United States in all this?

The first case of Covid-19 was diagnosed in the United States on January 22nd in Snohomish County, Washington. Incidentally, that was the same day the city of Wuhan went into lockdown.

We have already had some small regional lockdowns and people in quarantine after traveling, but the quarantining of large groups of people has not yet occurred in the US. YET. We are on day 50 since the initial case was diagnosed in the United States. However, the first case of community spread was on February 26, and this may be a more important marker than the first case in a country the size of ours. “Community spread” means the illness was not contracted through traceable means, like a family member with the virus or travel history to places where the illness was running rampant. So if we’re counting from the first day of community spread, the US is on day 15.

If massive lockdowns are occurring on about day 22-23 in other countries, that means we may have 7-8 days before we see major lockdowns and quarantines here. That would put us at March 19th or 20th. We may see some early lockdowns of cities or regions where the virus is rapidly spreading like Seattle and New York City. The lockdowns in other countries expanded in about a week to encompass greater geographic areas and larger numbers of people. This would put us at approximately March 26-27th.

Now keep in mind, this is not engraved in stone. I don’t trust our numbers any more than I trusted China’s because the testing protocols have been nothing short of disastrous. First, faulty tests were sent out to health departments across the country and then the criteria for being tested was so narrow that many cases were likely overlooked. It took one person who caught the virus through community spread 10 days to be tested because she didn’t fit the criteria.

The US might still manage to get a handle on this outbreak and contain it. A successful treatment regimen could be discovered. But if you’re looking for a general idea of when we may see lockdowns and quarantines, this pattern seems to be repeating itself and possibly speeding up.

This chart shows how far behind Italy other countries are in the grand scheme of this outbreak. Based on this chart we are 11.5 days behind Italy, who instituted their country-wide quarantine three days ago. If this chart is correct, we’d be looking at massive quarantines on approximately the 20th as opposed to the more gradual schedule used by China.

Graph by Professor Mark Handley, at University College London (Image: Twitter)

How long are quarantines lasting?

If the information coming out of China is accurate, their period of extensive lockdown has lasted 7-8 weeks. Italy is right at the midpoint of that, at 3.5 weeks and the situation appears to be nowhere near under control.

Based on this, I would expect a quarantine or lockdown in the US to last for up to 2-3 months. There are lots of variables, of course, but this would be a good general guide for getting supplies.

  • This article can help you figure out what you need for a period of quarantine
  • This book (which was banned by Amazon) is an even more thorough guide
  • To get a free quarantine checklist, sign up here for my newsletter.
  • If supplies are short where you live, this article can help you figure out some alternatives.

I have to stress that whether you are personally concerned about getting the coronavirus or not, a mandatory quarantine will still affect you and you’ll want to be prepared. Otherwise, those folks you made fun of for buying toilet paper will be laughing at you for using the pages of a phonebook to wipe.

So what’s going to happen?

It’s impossible to predict exactly how the coronavirus is going to affect the United States. Americans are far more independence-minded that folks in China and much less likely to cooperate with draconian containment measures. At the same time, healthcare here is outrageously expensive for those of us who are uninsured, which up until this point may have caused many people to skip medical treatment or diagnosis, potentially spreading the virus faster.

However, as of today, March 12, a number of universities across the country are shutting down classes until April. Workplaces are taking more thorough sanitation measures. Large gatherings, conferences, and conventions are being canceled. The NBA has canceled the rest of the season, the MLB has canceled spring training, and NCAA tournaments have also been canceled. (source) Last night, President Trump announced the suspension of air traffic from the EU much to the outrage of Europe, and today he said that suspension of domestic travel is also a possibility. (source)

We know there is community spread in New YorkWashington state, and now potentially Houston, TexasContainment efforts thus far have failed.

While we aren’t in lockdown yet, anyone who is paying attention can see that we’re certainly headed in that direction.

There are some things that could change this. If we begin having a lot more positive cases in clusters, it could accelerate the timeline. On the other hand, if the growth in the number of cases slows down, it would show that containment efforts are working and it might never get as far as government-mandated quarantines.

Either way, if you aren’t prepared, I would strongly recommend you put some plans in place.

It’s time to make some decisions.

While again, I must stress, we don’t know for sure what will happen, it’s time to make some decisions just in case.

  • Where do you want to be during a quarantine or lockdown?
  • When will you stop going to work or sending the kids to school?
  • Do you have enough supplies to see you through 7-8 weeks or longer?

Use this guide to get prepared for the possibility of a Covid-19 lockdown.

You’re the only person who can answer these questions for yourself and your family. But you should probably answer them soon, or the decisions will most likely be made for you.

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28 Comments
ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
March 13, 2020 6:53 am

“closing American borders to all flights from Europe and announcing some ways he intends to help the people of the United States financially.”

Nothing closes that southern border, though, does it?

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<—–==

Looks like the infected will just have to walk across one of our vast open borders instead of a first class flight…..

4th Turner
4th Turner
  ordo ab chao
March 13, 2020 10:22 am

Get ready to SHELTER-IN-PLACE™ for up to 15 weeks (+) starting in the next 7 (+/- a few) days folks!!

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  4th Turner
March 13, 2020 2:52 pm

“When will authorities lockdown America….”

Emperor Trump will announce a national emergency at 3 eastern time today

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<—–==

Looks like you may be spot on, 4T

SeeBee
SeeBee
March 13, 2020 7:31 am

If there is a mandatory quarantine, who are the enforcers? Do law enforcement agencies have some special immunity? Do they have families with immunity? Not sure how this plays out.

Apple
Apple
  SeeBee
March 13, 2020 5:11 pm

Military. They have the gear.

SeeBee
SeeBee
  Apple
March 13, 2020 9:33 pm

Well there goes Posse Comitatus.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  SeeBee
March 13, 2020 11:30 pm

See Bee
They’ve already passed all the laws and wrote regs and procedures for the whole enchilada. Everything is ready to go. Between 911 and Dec. 2019 all the needed laws were passed. They can even deputize more goon squads when needed. All under the medical, financial, natural disaster, and terrorism umbrella’s.

card802
card802
March 13, 2020 7:54 am

Trump can’t fucking win, if he leaves the borders open and allows flights and there’s a massive outbreak he’s a motherfucker, if he closes borders and restricts flights, he’s a motherfucker.

All that being said, Michigan is closing all schools Monday, Ohio and Illinois have already. Shit is going to get real whether this is real or just some kind of a test.
My yoga studio is still open for now.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
March 13, 2020 8:08 am

This is what happens when we allow ourselves to panic. The crowd starts international virtue signaling by canceling all 8 months of the Baseball season, the most popular part of the NBA season and International soccer. Never mind that We once had the choice of putting ourselves at risk by attending or not attending. How many have been killed or injured at Soccer games over the years?

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Fleabaggs
March 13, 2020 2:54 pm

True dat….

I won’t see you in a camp, Flea……….I’m not gettin on any bus…………

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<——==

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  ordo ab chao
March 13, 2020 11:24 pm

Ordo.
If they catch me alive they’ll just take me right to the kidney donor clinic.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Fleabaggs
March 13, 2020 11:45 pm

Hahaha…at least that’s where they’ll say you’re going……

I had to run up to wally world to get some pills for my sick, 85 yr. old mother in law. I asked the pharmacist what was the difference between liposomal vitamin c and just vitamin c……she couldn’t tell me, and went straight in to lecturing me on how vit. c will damage my kidneys. I just kind of chuckled a little, standing there with bp numbers of 200/130, two stents and then a quadruple bypass in what he called ‘the widow maker’……..

I’m 4 miles north of the border between FEMA regions 6 and 7, in a small town, and they have locked me out of visits to my mother in the rest home (while employees and vendors went in and out), schools have been closed (with a letter sent to all parents telling them how to wash their hands), local industry my wife works for changed procedure entering and exiting two days ago……..I could go on.

As I sit here with the idiot box on, the late night comedians are rippin the Emperor apart, and some of it is pretty funny. The old jack leg always manages to say the right words that- ammo for the demonrats to water the chaoseed……….

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<——==

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  ordo ab chao
March 14, 2020 12:23 am

Ordo.
I meant they were going to take mine. It’s the one thing in excellent condition. They only know chemicals at those places. You can get it at any health food or herbal store. The biggest difference between comercial Vit. c and the other types is that the cheapies are just “Ascorbic Acid”. That is only one of 4 to 5 parts of vitamin c and it’s the outer part that would normally be the membrane for lack of a better word. It”s Very ineffective compared to the others. It is also hard to absorb through the gut. Liposomal is wrapped in a fat or protien type envelope that goes right through the wall of the gut and blood vessels and straight into the tissue cells making low doses much more effective. You should slip one to your mom if you ever get in again. The absolute heartlessness of bureaucratic agencies is just so evil, and unlike others I don’t give the employees a pass with that “some of them are good people”. They know what they are doing and they know they want the security of a government job regardless of who is harmed. God gave us a conscience and either in this life or the next it will convict us. Our problems in this country stem from allowing ourselves to be silenced with that compromising speak no ill, and tolerance bs. The idea that “what’s it to you if We had an abortion”. I has a lot to do with me. It’s unsettling to think my neighbors kill their children. What might they do to mine if I don’t guard them every moment.
I’m selfishly hoping the shelter in place law doesn’t keep me from getting to low altitude in the next month or two. BTW that’s some serious blood pressure. Really sad about your mom.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Fleabaggs
March 13, 2020 9:12 pm

Holy shit !!! No NBA or NCAA or MLB to keep the “teens” off the streets. Hang on .

Ivan
Ivan
March 13, 2020 9:52 am

“When Will Authorities ‘Lockdown’ America (& How Long Will Quarentine Last)? Here’s What The Patterns Show Us”

“Lockdowns” are inevitable, the question should be, for how long.

Will “lockdowns” (interstate/intrastate travel controls) be a permanent fixture like TSA/DHS post 9/11?

Wuhan virus is a mask for the inevitable collapse of fiat fluffed stock markets that commenced Sept 2019.

Disorder is the order of the day.

Buy some toilet paper.

Feel better.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ivan
March 13, 2020 11:50 am

don’t buy toilet paper, buy water.. they’re going to shut off the water when usage skyrockets from people showering after a shit cause they got no paper 😉

Exring
Exring
March 13, 2020 10:30 am

I will start with I am a physician and was close to a Graduate Degree in Microbiology before Med School. That said, what is happening is nothing less than Hollering Fire in a crowded theater. The statistical numbers are “Bogus”. That is easy to say because the death rate is poorer than a “guess”. In order for a real number to be put forth, ALL people of the United States would need to have a ‘valid’ test for the contagion and then start to compare the death numbers, etc. to that number. There is no such number at this time, nor anything close to it. The last death statistics quoted were somewhere less than 50 souls and there were 26 of those in a single nursing home in Seattle, if I understand the numbers correctly. This “skews” the numbers, even for the death rate significantly. The sxs (symptoms) are those of a ‘cold’ and those older souls (such as myself) were compromised from the beginning because the major system attacked is the ‘respiratory system’, something that makes the elderly most vulnerable. Since we have only superficial testing for this virus, we have no idea how many have really been exposed and are unable to make any valid comparisons. The most logical place to get some statistics is from South Korea since they have been testing a much larger number and have a reliable reporting structure. But the PANIC that has been created is working if we wish to bring down our economy so were do we “Follow the Money”?

gman
gman
  Exring
March 13, 2020 12:02 pm

thank you for the rational opinion.

“where do we ‘follow the money’?”

there probably is no money trail, it looks more like bureaucratically logical ass-covering. certainly there are some who think of it as a fortuitous cover for whatever they’re trying to get away with, but they’re just riding the wave, not creating it.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  gman
March 13, 2020 9:15 pm

Cui bono?

gman
gman
  Exring
March 13, 2020 12:11 pm

“The statistical numbers are ‘Bogus’. That is easy to say because the death rate is poorer than a ‘guess’.”

the outbreak aboard the cruise liner diamond princess would seem to be a perfect test case for the virus – an isolated population in petri dish conditions with little internal quarantine enforcement over three weeks time. there we observe 7 deaths and 390 recoveries to date, apparently with all deaths being elderly persons. is this data not definitive?

niebo
niebo
  Exring
March 13, 2020 11:04 pm

So, explanicate this for me: How is DRY cough a symptom of this pneumonia? Please. I have YET to hear any talking head “doctor” explain how fluid-filled lungs = dry cough.

Thanks!

BL
BL
March 13, 2020 11:00 am

I could use a vacation.

Donkey
Donkey
March 13, 2020 3:32 pm

Lots of problems get solved with billions of people being deaded.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Donkey
March 13, 2020 9:17 pm

More people will die from lead poisoning in the camps than from the Kung Flu.

niebo
niebo
  overthecliff
March 13, 2020 11:16 pm

Probably more poisonings in the streets, too.

Treefarmer
Treefarmer
March 13, 2020 5:02 pm

We’re out in the middle of the Nevada desert now but planning to head back to Idaho at the end of March for a forestry conference. The organizers of the event have told me that cancelling the conference isn’t even a thought right now. The conference is in Moscow, ID and I haven’t been able to find anything about the University of Idaho shutting down. I hope they let us back into Idaho so we can get back to the homestead after that conference!

Jdog
Jdog
March 13, 2020 7:37 pm

We will definitely be a different country on the other side of this thing. People will not only have to deal with the ramifications of their destructive indebtedness, and the lie they are prospering, but they are going to brought face to face with the fact that we are no longer a free country.
We are actually now a feudal system in which the government has assumed the position of our King. During this crisis, the government will dictate to you what you will and will not do in most every aspect of your life. In San Jose, they have already dictated to landlords that they cannot evict people who get behind on their rent.
Of course I am sure they will allow the banks to foreclose on property, because the banks tell the government what to do, not the other way around. And when this is all over I can guarantee, that just like 2008, the rich will be richer, and the poor will be poorer. Every crisis is just another opportunity for the rich to exploit the poor. That is until the day when the poor finally can no longer tolerate their exploitation any longer and develop the hive mentality to rise together. But I doubt I will see that in my lifetime.

niebo
niebo
  Jdog
March 13, 2020 11:09 pm

See Donkey comment above for a proper response to your comment.