Coexistence with China or Cold War II?

Guest Post by Pat Buchanan

Coexistence with China or Cold War II?

On China, Trump is the first realist we have had in the Oval Office in decades. But both parties colluded in the buildup of China… The mighty malevolent China we face today was made in the USA.

Under fire for his handling of the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump, his campaign and his party are moving to lay blame for the 80,000 U.S. dead at the feet of the Communist Party of China and, by extension, its longtime General Secretary, President Xi Jinping.

“There is a significant amount of evidence” that the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, said Secretary of State Mike Pompeo last week.

Trump himself seemed to subscribe to the charge:

“This is worse than Pearl Harbor. This is worse than the World Trade Center. There’s never been an attack like this… It could have been stopped in China. It should have been stopped right at the source.”

There is talk on Capitol Hill of suspending sovereign immunity so China may be sued for the damages done by the virus that produced a U.S. shutdown and a second Great Depression where unemployment is projected to reach near the 25% of 1933.

The Trump campaign has begun to target the Democratic nominee as “Beijing Biden” for his past collusion with China and his attack on Trump for “hysterical xenophobia” when Trump ended flights from China.

What is the historical truth?

On China, Trump is the first realist we have had in the Oval Office in decades. But both parties colluded in the buildup of China as she vaulted over Italy, France, Britain, Germany and Japan to become the world’s second power in the 21st century.

Both parties also dismissed Chinese trade surpluses with the U.S., which began at a few billion dollars a year in the early 1990s and have grown to almost $500 billion a year. Neither party took notice until lately of our growing dependency on Beijing for products critical to our defense and for drugs and medicines crucial to the health and survival of Americans.

The mighty malevolent China we face today was made in the USA.

But what do we do now? Can we coexist with this rising and expansionist power? Or must we conduct a new decades-long Cold War like the one we waged to defeat the Soviet Empire and Soviet Union?

The U.S. prevailed in that Cold War because of advantages we do not possess with the China of 2020.

From 1949-1989, a NATO alliance backed by 300,000 U.S. troops in Europe “contained” the Soviet Union. No Soviet ruler attempted to cross the dividing line laid down at Yalta in 1945. Nor did we cross it.

East of the Elbe, the Soviet bloc visibly failed to offer the freedoms and prosperity the U.S., Western Europe and Japan had on offer after World War II. America won the battle for hearts and minds.

Moreover, ethnic nationalism, the idea that separate and unique peoples have a right to determine their own political and cultural identity and destiny, never died in the captive nations of Europe and the USSR.

China today does not suffer from these deficiencies to the same degree. Unlike the USSR, China has four times our population. Where the USSR could not compete economically and technologically, China is a capable and dynamic rival of the U.S.

Moreover, if we begin a Cold War II with China, we would not be starting with the advantages Truman’s America, undamaged at home in World War II, had over Stalin’s pillaged and plundered land in 1945.

Where ethnic nationalism tore the USSR apart into 15 nations, today’s China is more of an ethno-nationalist state with Han Chinese constituting 1 billion of China’s 1.4 billion people.

There are millions of Tibetans, Uighurs, Kazakhs in southwest and west China, and tens of millions of Buddhists, Christians, Muslims, Falun Gong and other religious minorities. But China is unlike the multiracial, multiethnic, multicultural, multilingual Moscow-centered and Russian-controlled Soviet Empire and USSR that shattered after 1989.

China’s weaknesses?

She is feared and distrusted by her neighbors. She sits on India’s lands from the war of the early 1960s. She claims the whole South China Sea, whose waters and resources are also claimed by Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Taiwan.

The peoples of Hong Kong and Taiwan fear that Beijing intends to overrun and rule them.

Even Vladimir Putin has reason to be suspicious as Beijing looks at the barren but resource-rich lands of Siberia and the Russian Far East, some of which once belonged to China.

China is thus a greater rival than the USSR of Stalin and Khrushchev and Brezhnev, but the U.S. is not today the nation of Ronald Reagan, with its surging economy and ideological conviction we would one day see the ideology of Marx and Lenin buried.

Three decades of post-Cold War foolish and failed democracy-crusading have left this generation not with the conviction and certitude of Cold War America, but with ashes in their mouths and no stomach to spend blood and treasure converting China to our way of life.

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flash
flash
May 12, 2020 7:51 am

China , just doing the jobs Americans are no longer hired to do… can’t wait till we outsource the entire Federal goverment… oh wait…

Israel to Annex the United States

Israel has used the uncritical U.S. support it has enjoyed since the time of Lyndon Johnson to pursue unwise policies vis-à-vis its neighbors that have drawn Washington into conflicts that would have been avoided. It has meanwhile exploited the power of its formidable domestic lobby to bleed the U.S. Treasury of well over $100 billion in direct grants plus three times that much in terms of largely hidden trade and co-production arrangements approved by a subservient Congress and endorsed by a controlled media.

In return, the United States has wound up with a “best friend and ally” that has spied on the U.S., stolen its technology, corrupted its government processes and lied consistently about its neighbors to create a casus belli so Americans can die in pointless wars rather than Israelis. The Lavon Affair and the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty reveal that Israel’s government will kill Americans when it suits them to do so, knowing full well that the sycophants in Washington and the Jewish dominated media will hardly whimper at the affront.

Over the past three years Donald J. Trump has delivered on his promise to be the “best friend in Washington that Israel has ever had.” He appointed his own bankruptcy lawyer and arch Zionist David Friedman as U.S. Ambassador, a man who clearly sees his mission as promoting Israeli interests rather than those of the United States. Israel has illegally exploited an American green light to declare all of Jerusalem its capital and Trump has obligingly moved the U.S. Embassy to suit. The Jewish state, which has inevitably declared itself legally to be “Jewish” and no longer anything like a democracy, has also illegally annexed the occupied Syrian Golan Heights and is now preparing to assimilate much of the formerly Palestinian West Bank. Expulsion of nearly all remaining Palestinians, even the ones who are Israeli citizens, will no doubt come next and has in fact been called for by some Jewish politicians. The extreme Israel-philia embraced by the White House and Congress has, inter alia, meant unrelenting hostility towards both Iran and Syria, neither of which poses any real threat or challenge to the American people or to any genuine U.S. interests.

https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israel-to-annex-the-united-states/

Capn Mike
Capn Mike
  flash
May 12, 2020 3:02 pm

Will those who down voted the above please explain why?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
May 12, 2020 8:00 am

Come on people, there is no China, no USA, no western world, no third world. There are globalists who are genetically Chinese, globalists who are genetically European, but they are all working together wearing the suits of fallen nations that do not yet realize that the old world is just shadows on the wall of their jail cell. They work in concert with one another and they do not care about the populations that inhabit the landmasses they manage any more than they do about the homeless on the streets. China would allow the loss of a hundred million of their population if it solidified their grip on power, and so would the occupation government in D.C.

This is the first top down revolution in history and the enemy is us.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  hardscrabble farmer
May 12, 2020 9:33 am

God bless you HsF for finally putting into words the reality of this power structure. If you don’t believe in God than take a bow or what ever. For what ever it is worth I applaud you.

This is the first top down revolution in history and the enemy is us.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  hardscrabble farmer
May 12, 2020 9:46 am

HSF, I mostly agree. But the Chinese do not think like Western globalists whatsoever. At best one could call them 19th century mercantilists. It’s not all about pure greed for them. While greedy Westerners only have a 24 hour memory to the last stock market closing, Asians have memories of elephants.

They still hold a grudge over the Opium Wars and WW2 internment camps. No one should underestimate them.

I worry about very little. One of the “very little” worries is a Chinese lightning strike.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Articles of Confederation
May 12, 2020 2:23 pm

I was once told by a Chinese engineer that the US operates on a 2 year election cycle while China develops 50 year plans. Their plans may evolve over time, but our plans/direction can change with one election.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  hardscrabble farmer
May 12, 2020 12:09 pm

Yes, that about covers it. The question is, per Lenin, “What is to be done?”. One might add “Who is to do it?”, because from what I see, the answer is “Precious few”. And it may not be enough to avoid the imposition of this deracinated horror against the great mass of mankind.

I’m old and live in a deep backwater, but even so, I fear for my posterity. I fear that the only strategy than has any possibilities is “Every man for himself”, very far from ideal and not likely a winner, but observing what I’ve now observed for a few months…

God willing and the covid don’t rise, I’m wrong.

22winmag - TBP's Mormon Crypto-Jew M110A2 Gunner
22winmag - TBP's Mormon Crypto-Jew M110A2 Gunner
May 12, 2020 8:40 am

FUCK YOU PAT

Or must we conduct a new decades-long Cold War like the one we waged to defeat the Soviet Empire and Soviet Union?

Furthering the myth that the USSR was ever defeated.

Photographic Proof the USSR Still Exists

Under fire for his handling of the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump, his campaign and his party are moving to lay blame for the 80,000 U.S. dead at the feet of the Communist Party of China and, by extension, its longtime General Secretary, President Xi Jinping.

FUCKING GOOD!

From 1949-1989, a NATO alliance backed by 300,000 U.S. troops in Europe “contained” the Soviet Union.

Bullshit. Obscene profits orchestrated between American A team Jews and Soviet B team Jews kept the USSR contained.

Know them by their fruits. If this article doesn’t make it clear Pat is a disinformation peddling career columnist, nothing will. And yeah, he’s among the best camouflaged crypto-jews going. It takes one to know one.

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit
May 12, 2020 9:00 am

The official US policy on Taiwan from the State Department web site:

“the United States recognized the Government of the People’s Republic of China as the sole legal government of China, acknowledging the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China….The United States does not support Taiwan independence.”

https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-taiwan

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 12, 2020 9:13 am

“The mighty malevolent China we face today was made in the USA.” Because the USA has and is ran by traitors. No way to even begin “winning” short of a bloody coup or revolution at home first.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
May 12, 2020 9:22 am

Nothing to add here. It’s all been said by Flash, Farmer, and .22.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Fleabaggs
May 12, 2020 9:34 am

Never hurts to remind us old folks and all the young folks that are to busy to listen.

overthecliff
overthecliff
May 12, 2020 9:53 am

Coexistence with China? Really,Pat?

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 12, 2020 10:20 am

It’s a little late to do squat now ! As for the 300,000 troops that were in Europe to hold off a possible soviet invasion Pat please we all knew we were a speed bump for the soviet advance nothing more !
As for a Cold War with China , we are already defeated sold out by our own government representatives enriching themselves with the Big Club investor class that owns them !
All this was done as average Americans future circled the drain for price of a cheap flat screen TV !

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
May 12, 2020 10:52 am

Pat is a shameless hussy Gas Lighting for the NWO’s Cold War II. Rachel Madcow could plead insanity and get aquitted on account of being a Liberal. Not so for Pat, He was in D.C. when Congress arranged the sale and transfer of American industry to Mexico and China.
This is not a war against China “or” Communism. This is a takedown of every Jane and Joe sixpack on the planet and a Stealth transition to Feudalism with just enough commie trappings to keep the mushbrained liberals in the game.
Just for a moment, throw a blanket over your particular Golden Calf and look at what’s happening. Right now the various and sundry Central Banks around the globe are buying up everything while the WHO and CDC’s of the world starve out the remaining small and medium businesses. Only select types of business and industry will be allowed to operate and only under ownership of the Banks. Just like they foreclosed on and then rented back the houses to the former owners in 2009-10. They will allow Joe Mechanic to rent a franchised garage selling franchised goods at set prices, preventing him from ever getting ahead. Same deal for Henny Hairdresser.
Who owns these Central banks and their Satalite Banks? They are the Nobility of the world and they hate and despise you. Why would they continue this charade of giving you 2 grand a month for doing nothing but staying home watching movies and not being evicted or having your car repoed. These people are not Capitalists, Communists, nor Fascists. That’s a smoke screen. Why would they share power or property with a government they already own. They are no longer even Oligarchs. Those mechanisms were a means to an end and the end is near for any form of freedom of movement or choice in personal matters. You will not be allowed to retain any stocks you think you own. They will be used to allegedly support the pension funds who are bankrupt and those pensions will be canceled through chicanery. Same with property. By January they will be in a position to cancel by decree, all private property not held by a club member. And they will take it too. We leaned how in 8 years of Vietnam.
Everyone here knows what “They” have done since 911 regarding freedoms and wealth of the mid to low income people of this world. Why would they stop 10 yards from the goalpost?
The time to endlessly debate causes and symptoms is over. Voting and other forms of persuasion haven’t worked to stop this Inexorable march to Serfdom. It’s time to roll the dice and come what may, Die on our feet. Open, angry, even violent rebellion is all that’s left. Start plotting taking down Internet hubs. Wherever you see a sign and green post saying underground cable, destroy it. March fully armed to the mayors office and “arrest his employees. Have you ever wondered why one of the most lucrative and common businesses in the universe is never mentioned on MSM or in Fortune magazine. KIDNAPPING.
LEAD, FOLLOW, OR GET OUT OF THE WAY.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Fleabaggs
May 12, 2020 1:40 pm

Nice summation Fleabaggs.

SeeBee
SeeBee
  Fleabaggs
May 12, 2020 9:21 pm

I’m going to kill them with kindness. (And perhaps some arsenic, if it’s handy.)

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
May 14, 2020 12:17 pm

I don’t want China to convert to our way of life. I just want our business to get out of China and for China to get out of our business!