Guest Post by Martin Armstrong
Many people have written in to ask about precious metals, what to buy, and where to store them. A number of people ask about storing at the Perth Mint or some designated metal storage facility. There are many different places for storage. However, I would not store anything with any government facility whatsoever. Even when gold was confiscated in 1934, they seized all gold on deposit at any bank. This is what gives me great pause of even storing gold in a bank safe deposit box or at any designated metal facility.
I know that many gold bugs keep spinning stories desperately against me and are trying very hard to prevent anyone from reading our sites. They are acting no different than YouTube or Twitter. That simply means that they cannot argue facts, so kill the messenger.
I have been warning that there is no RULE OF LAW. The government will do whatever it wants and there is no law that will ever protect you. You must remember, that they will do whatever they need to do to survive. I suggest watching “The Report” by Amazon. That exposes how the CIA was torturing people against international law and lying to Congress to cover it all up. Nobody was ever prosecuted and the guys doing the torture got $80 million for doing so.
We all know that the bankers are protected in New York. NEVER has a banker gone to prison for anything they have done. Because they were illegally trading in our accounts parking even $500 million losses in my account over the weekend and claiming it was an error and backing it out on Monday, exposed how corrupt things were in New York. Then because I threatened to sue the bank, they flipped it and claims trading losses were mine and admitted their people conspired with me to hide the losses.
When it came out that the accounts were mine and not accounts of clients, their story fell apart. Nevertheless, they seized our company, through me in civil contempt for 7 years on a statute that said 18 months maximum, and when my clients supported me against the bank they put a lifetime gag order on me to prevent me from helping my clients against the bank. The bank pleas guilty and HSBC returns all funds, no fine, and no bankers ever went to jail. The same with the CIA.
They can torture you, kill you, or steal all your money. Nobody will ever be charged nor will they ever go to prison. This is the reality of the world we live in. Here is a message from a member of Parliament in Britain. We are looking at the repeal of all rights in Britain, Australia, Canada is moving with internment camps as is New Zealand. They desperately want to do the same in the United States if they can get rid of Trump. Welcome to the “New Norm” it is just out in the open.
When it comes down to store your metals, I would not leave it in any government facility or designated metal storage. They will know where to find it.
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Don’t tell anyone you have any metal. Not your wife, kids, or acquaintances. Secrete it somewhere in your control. Keep a small amount entirely separate from your real savings so you can give it up when (not if) people with guns or worse get the best of you. Not a bad idea to have a cheap gun to give up as well.
You are holding metal to insure against, and get some kind of fresh start after social collapse. You aren’t going to “make” any money with a stash of gold and silver, you are just trying to be ahead of starvation and depravity. Maintain perspective, and remember that they are NOT your friends.
yeah, this is something most people havent really understood. nobody is going to be bringing krugerrands to the post-collapse Barter Faire or whatever… or at least, nobody is gonna do so twice.. after anyone shows metal like that in such troubled times, sombody’s gonna follow him and rob him at the first convenience… probably even worse, he’ll torture and torment the victim until he tells where he’s got the rest of his stash.. the more organized (worst case, theyre government) the robbers, the less likely they are to ever believe that theyve found it all, and will keep waterboarding johnny metals to reveal where the ‘real’ stash is. those metals are probably for the next generation at this point, after some kind of sane human civilization reemerges. for our lifetimes the important metals will be lead, steel, and brass.
it might be possible over time to do some small trading with silver. in the US where junk silver is still in living memory and lots of it available for scrap prices, this will probably work better. in europe silver was demonetized in the 19th century and they largely stopped minting usefully silver coinage by ww1 or maybe the 20s. . only a few exceptions. even in cases like switzerland where they minted silver until 1967 (maybe the last in the world even?) it was only .833 fine.. people still remember that those were silver and one might even find one in circulation rarely, but there isnt the same broader consciousness of that silver having been money. where you can buy the other metals relevant to our era, do so , as much as you can manage.
BR, you are dead on when you say tell no one! If one other person knows, it is no longer a secrete. You may pay the price of, I am sorry.
The advise on owning a cheap firearm is also noted.
If a person doesn’t know they don’t have to lie if asked. It is a form of protection and or respect of the other individual. Call it a rationalization if you wish but, it works nearly every time.
>>>If a person doesn’t know they don’t have to lie if asked.
If you receive your gold or silver delivery by mail, they have records of that since every piece of mail, including packages, is photographed and stored. If it says it’s from a mint or a company that sells precious metals, they already know you.
“Secrete it somewhere in your control.”
Maybe your rectum?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-25/gold-smuggling-surges-man-caught-walking-suspiciously-1-kilo-bar-rectum
at this point the best place to store your metals is probably in smallish lumps packed in brass cases properly loaded. metal delivery is gonna be at least as important as metal storage for the forseeable future.
The post-collapse currencies will be beans and bullets.
I keep no more than $10 million in gold in each of 4 secure deep vaults around the world.
Then, I woke up from my dream- bummer…
Gold for post collapse major purchases like housing, farmland, etc. Silver for barter during a collapse. Think junk silver.
Yes, the wife must know what you both own and maybe mature offspring too. It would be terrible to get knocked off (as a man there is a greater likelihood) and the family starve or be impoverished because nobody knew about the stash you hid from them.
I have a true story about a gramma that instructed her 60+ year old daughter to take the black yarn balls upon her death. Now mind you the daughter did not knit or craft. Upon the old womans death the daughter related this request to me and asked why her mother would instruct her to do this. It was simple, the old lady used real money for mandrels to wrap the yarn around. It was done in plane sight of her husband, children and others.
My point is, she did not bury it where it could or would not be found. When a person of her quality dies then the survivors should consider her/his belongings a treasure hunt. Some pay better than others. My mother-in-law hid hers in the bottom of the keenex boxes & Bible.
>>>Yes, the wife must know what you both own and maybe mature offspring too.
Maybe, yes… though you are doubling or tripling the likelihood that ‘someone’ can be forced to give up the PM hoard. I like the idea of a two-tiered hoard: only one to be surrendered under duress.
Methods will vary, but you have to have some arrangement in place to get those resources into the hands of the right parties after your own death which is, in any event, a certainty.
Deep stashes….why not 4 or even 5? If I had any that’s what I’d probably do.
You could have different stashes. Then you tell your wife about one and no other. You tell your oldest son about another but no other. And so on. Problems arise if you and another member of the family are both taken out. That stash will be unknown to the others.
Thanks Martin.
I had some at the Perth Mint for a while to diversify, until I realized anything in a five eyes country is not gonna do me any good.
I still hold “silver” at the Perth Mint, because it is a relatively low-cost and low-profile way of storing silver.
But the Perth Mint is one of the first places on the planet any serious government would look in order to seize “hoarded assets”; any and all holdings I may have at Perth Mint are 1) fully disclosed to the IRS as a foreign asset, and 2) will be the first PM sold, if/when selling appears indicated.
Who would have thought that we would be living in a tyrannical Orwellian world in 2020? It is now out in the open, it is now full blown, after 100 years or more of stealth incubation in the Satanic minds of vile and evil men. Sadly, most people are little more than brainwashed dumb driven cattle lining up proudly without a worry in the world at the abattoir. And they will scream the loudest when the guillotine drops.
I pray it drops soon.
If I can’t get to them, they might as well not be mine. Wife knows where they all are as she helped pay for them too. And why would I want her to not have them if something happened to me (or visa versa)? I cashed in a silver IRA a few years back (should have waited for it to drop even further), simply because I stopped trusting the folks holding the coins. Sadly, the worthless government got taxes they didn’t deserve, but I’m still happier to have the coins versus having to beg for them back (and all the paperwork, etc.).
Where the sun don’t shine.
See Bee,
True story. I was a dental assistant in the Army-1976. We had an Officer’s wife (German) appointed for a routine exam. She had a nearly solid gold upper partial denture framework that was OVER 1 pound. The dentist had never seen or felt anything so heavy, his eyes bulged. He tossed it to me. Yeah, over a pound for sure. That would be worth over $ 20,000 dollars today (there is always some lesser metal for increased strength). It was exquisite with 3 custom latches that secured it very tightly, replacing 3 back teeth on one side and 2 on the other. Amazing dental work.
Holy Root Canal, Batman! How the heck did this woman talk, walk or eat?! I guess she was loaded enough to pay people to do that for her. Great story…..thanks for sharing
If it’s not in your possession, you don’t own it.