IT’S THE SUN STUPID

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Steve
Steve
October 29, 2020 9:41 am

Valentina Zharkova has been hitting it out of the park with her analysis.
Generally, it’s going to get much colder but because of all the pattern changes a few places will become hotter.

Dan
Dan
October 29, 2020 9:47 am

The Sun drives the weather and the science denying left merely lie about the change of the weather in order to establish a world tax on everything so that the globalists can gain more control. The left do not believe in science. Heck they cannot even come to terms with XX and XY.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Dan
October 29, 2020 12:17 pm

Their government grants don’t allow them to consider the sun. I’ve read some of them. They can only consider how “humans” are contributing to climate change. That’s why their studies are always wrong. It’s nothing but propaganda.

ICE-9
ICE-9
October 29, 2020 9:50 am

The smoking gun of “correlation is causation” regarding long-term weather patterns is the expansion and retraction of the small ice cap on Mars to the solar maxima and minima. As the sun heats up, that small ice cap recedes, and as it cools the martian ice cap expands. Climate models I have seen have the sun’s radiation output held constant and it is not a variable that is part of the history match as there is no data outside 20th century. The history match is almost totally dependent upon extrapolations of CO2 levels found in ice cores that only go back a few 10,000 years. Volcanic super eruptions like the Toba eruption that nearly wiped out mankind 75,000 years ago are also not in the history match, and these eruptions emit tremendous volumes of CO2 into the atmosphere. Also not in the history match are the “Operation Fishbowl” high altitude nuclear detonations that took place in the 1960s and emitted high levels of radiation in the upper atmosphere that disrupted communications for a dozen years.

What gets me though is that one would think that it is the nitrogen content that holds in or releases heat, with nitrogen being 78% of atmospheric mole percentage. But then nitrogen is mostly inert and not emitted by industrial activity and can’t therefore be taxed.

The whole anthropogenic climate change dogma is a giant scam designed to impose de-industrialization of the west (but not the east) and throw the west into a banker controlled Neo-feudalism. It’s all part of the Globalism agenda.

yahsure
yahsure
October 29, 2020 9:59 am

Some people think they are so important that they affect the temperature of the earth. I bet when we experience cooling these people will say it’s because of their actions to help save the earth that caused it.

Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
October 29, 2020 10:05 am

Men make their plans…Al Gore et al, and God laughs.

mark
mark
  Cow Doctor
October 29, 2020 11:19 am

Owl Gore couldn’t find his ass with both hands. He was created as a punch line…God created humor and Owl Gore.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
October 30, 2020 2:16 am

Tipper had more decency in the tip of her little finger than Al, Bill, and Hillary combined.

Stucky
Stucky
October 29, 2020 10:08 am

The sun is 93 MILLION miles from us. And you people think something that far away affects the Earth?? That’s crazy talk. Earth’s heat come from it’s molten core … which, btw, is controlled by the Joos.

Eddie Minimum sounds like a Country Western band.

Ghost of Maggie
Ghost of Maggie
  Stucky
October 29, 2020 10:38 am

And the moon is really a hollow ship where the lizard people control storms.

Apollo never went there though.

Am glad you are around.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Ghost of Maggie
October 29, 2020 12:22 pm

Good to see you commenting more, Maggie.

Ghost of Maggie
Ghost of Maggie
  Vixen Vic
October 29, 2020 12:56 pm

Am hoping my old buddy ec shows up…

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Stucky
October 29, 2020 10:53 am

It’s radiative heat transfer from sun to earth, not conductive heat transfer. Yes much heat comes from the core, but that is fairly constant over geologic time with much instantaneous heat / gas emitted through volcanism. The size of the ice cap and oceans play their part too due to increased reflectivity of sunlight. The short-term surface changes (over a few hundred years) are due to solar radiation fluctuations.

In summary there are many things that taken together, and the total lack of data, preclude any reasonable history match and therefore invalidate any forward predictions arising from said history matches.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  ICE-9
October 29, 2020 11:06 am

ICE – I have read that there are more than 600 variables that affect the “climate”.

It just so happens that some people have identified one very insignificant variable that they can tax and it will change the other 599 variables. Coincidentally, these same people have found a way to make money off of this variable.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  TN Patriot
October 29, 2020 11:21 am

Yep. Our demise has been in the works since the 1960s. Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Pharaohs convinced the Egyptians they were gods.

But there are major and minor variables and CO2 level is probably a minor variable when the truth is told, but it is so complicated and there is a complete lack of hard data from the past as we will probably never fully understand how weather works. But tremendous life changing decisions are being made for us based on what amounts to extreme speculation rather than “science”. Science is just another captured political tool.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  ICE-9
October 29, 2020 12:24 pm

Wait until the CGI space invasion is used. That will be the biggest hoax of all. That’s next on the agenda if climate change doesn’t work.

Ghost of Maggie
Ghost of Maggie
  Vixen Vic
October 29, 2020 12:57 pm

Nothing should surprise at this point

Kenneth
Kenneth
  Vixen Vic
October 29, 2020 1:50 pm

When Projects BlueBeam and BlueBook collide?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ICE-9
October 29, 2020 12:06 pm

Morans who can’t drill down even 20 miles think they know what the core is like. If anything, the core is a weightless environment as the mass above is equally pulling with gravity in all directions.

Stucky
Stucky
  ICE-9
October 29, 2020 1:30 pm

“It’s radiative heat transfer from sun to earth, not conductive heat transfer. “

Wrong. Just stop it. What part of “the sun is 93 MILLION miles away” don’t you understand?

You and the other four Dumkopfs who voted me down are impervious to facts; the core heats 100% of the earth.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Stucky
October 29, 2020 1:53 pm

I rarely vote anyone down, the Mormon troll and occasional useless comment (like GAZ) excepted. I suggest you do an experiment. Walk outside during the day – it’s warm. Then go back inside, wait 12 hours and go outside again at night – it’s cold. That temperature difference is due to the sun. Over time the radiative heat from the sun build up and heats the surface ground. Also we can map to some degree down to the Moho using seismic surveys.

Also, if the core provided all the earth’s heat then why are there ice caps on both poles? Oh yeah, that sun again.

Deepest well ever drilled was > 40,000 feet deep by the Russians on the Kola peninsula. Lots of weird geologic stuff down that deep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  ICE-9
October 29, 2020 2:07 pm

That link on the Kola Superdeep Borehole was very interesting.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Vixen Vic
October 29, 2020 2:50 pm

Lots of interesting stuff about planet earth. If you like these kinds of things then I think you might find things like geophysics and historical geology interesting.

One of my points about man made “climate change” is to challenge anyone who believes it to read a book on historical geology and then still argue that climate change is man made.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  ICE-9
October 29, 2020 3:36 pm

ICE-9, I suck at math and science so geophysics would not be my thing. But I thrive on history. The fact that there’s been ancient ice ages and warming periods, followed by the more recent Maunder Minimum and the Medieval Warm Period, these alone have convinced me that man-made climate change is bunk. It shows the climate has been changing since the beginning of time. When you have huge climate changes before the industrial age, that shows man and industry is not the cause. It’s just common sense.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Vixen Vic
October 29, 2020 4:51 pm

Historical geology has no math so anyone who is a bit persistent can pick up its main concepts. An excellent book I’m looking at right now is called Earth and Life Through Time by Steven M. Stanley. It’s just advanced enough to really get into the guts of things. I found it hardcover for $20 bucks on ebay.

Geophysics is a different story though. Hard core signal deconvolution stuff and all.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  ICE-9
October 29, 2020 5:26 pm

I think I could deal with Historical Geology. I’ll check out that book recommendation. Thank you so much.
Edit: Just checked on this through Amazon. It got a lot of high marks. I’m ordering it. Thank you, again.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Vixen Vic
October 29, 2020 5:52 pm

I read it a few years back. It’s a good start. Good luck!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
October 29, 2020 7:58 pm

Why does it get cold in winter with less RADIATION, dummy? Lol. And that thing that happens once in a while called night? How it’s always cooler than the day…. Put the glass bubble down gramps, and you might notice night and winter lol

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Stucky
October 29, 2020 12:29 pm

The “Farmer’s Almanac” makes their weather predictions based on the sun. I get the Almanac and they’ve been spot on since I’ve been getting it.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Stucky
October 29, 2020 10:12 pm

LMFAO!

Horseless Headsman
Horseless Headsman
October 29, 2020 10:37 am

Can you leave a non-twitter link? I don’t use it.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Horseless Headsman
October 29, 2020 12:26 pm

I don’t use Twitter either but I can view it. If it doesn’t show up when you click on it, refresh your page and it’ll show up. (I just learned that last bit on this site this week. Thanks to whoever posted that.)

Horseless Headsman
Horseless Headsman
  Vixen Vic
October 29, 2020 12:42 pm

Thnx

mark
mark
October 29, 2020 11:48 am

I am a believer.

I’m building a house that is 85% completed. Used this book as a guide in insulating (heavy foam), including a root cellar next to the basement with access to it from the basement as well as from the outside through a crawl space door, and will add a two burner, old style wood burning/cooking stove (have the stove) into the basement, after the frigg’in county government is out of the picture.

Steep roof for the snow to easily slide off. The house is positioned correctly for solar, and hope to have a passive solar system installed within the first two years.

Have built five Cold Frames for growing winter veggies…will build more and I have a small green house.

Can’t say enough about these two books:

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  mark
October 29, 2020 12:31 pm

I couldn’t see the 2 books you recommended. Just empty space.

RiNS
RiNS
  Vixen Vic
October 29, 2020 1:20 pm

Posted as image for you..
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Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  RiNS
October 29, 2020 1:41 pm

Thanks so much, RiNS.

mark
mark
  RiNS
October 29, 2020 9:27 pm

Thanks RiNs…just checked in…don’t know what happened VV?

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  mark
October 29, 2020 11:38 pm

I’m using an ad blocker. That may be why I couldn’t see it. Thanks, Mark.

Sue Robinson
Sue Robinson
  mark
October 29, 2020 12:45 pm

I’m with Mark, but just wow! My log cabin up in the Central Washington high country – 4,100 foot elevation – is off the grid, powered by solar, and I did insulate the daylights out of the floor, but Mark has really taken the prize. Thanks for the info, Mark, especially the root cellar material plus the books.

mark
mark
  Sue Robinson
October 29, 2020 10:26 pm

Sue,

Here is a couple of related good links for your cabin in the mountains, good for you, sounds wonderful! I’m rural…wish I was more remote…but you can’t have everything…where would you put it???

Ask a Prepper

https://thelostsuperfoods.com/book/

Stucky
Stucky
October 29, 2020 2:30 pm

“Walk outside during the day – it’s warm. Then go back inside, wait 12 hours and go outside again at night – it’s cold. That temperature difference is due to the sun.”

—— ICE-9

Nope.

You see, the molten core at the center of the earth is only HALF full.

Think of a balloon half-filled with water — when you rotate it, it sloshes around. Likewise, during the day the molten stuff sloshes against that side of the earth (day) and results in warmth. Then, due to rotational forces and centrifugal properties (squared by the mass of molten iron), it sloshes away to the other side as night falls, so it gets cold. This is all proven by scientists, man.

Doug
Doug
  Stucky
October 29, 2020 8:32 pm

Funniest thing I’ve read all day; go Stucky!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Doug
October 30, 2020 2:38 am

If I didn’t know better I’d swear he’s Biden’s science advisor.

Stucky
Stucky
  Doug
October 30, 2020 8:54 am

“Funniest thing I’ve read all day; go Stucky!”

Hot diggity-dawg! You and Coalclinker “get it”.

When I saw the original Eddie Minimum graph I thought to myself — “I wonder if someone is gonna blame the Joos for all this.”? You know … cuz it’s TBP.

So, I then wondered how I could play Blame The Joo. In a stroke of pure insight I came up with the the bullshit idea of the Earth’s core being the source of heat … SOLELY for the purpose of getting the Joo involved. I expected someone to object; “Stucky, you mean the Joos even own the Earth’s molten core??” THAT was supposed to be the punch line.

Instead, it got about 20 responses (really) and about 3,000 words (really) of explanation of how the sun works. Now, THAT’S some funny shit right there. It even spanned threads. In the “resignation” thread you-know-who-i-am gave another long explanation, and James wondered (once again) if it was wise to give me unlimited internet access.

I honestly thought that the insane idea of the core being half full and sloshing around to make days hot and cold was a Dead Giveaway …. but, nooooo! I think I could have kept it going another full day. But, alas, I have new threads that require some stirring-of-the-pot.

Foot in the Forest
Foot in the Forest
October 29, 2020 5:24 pm

I don’t care what the facts are I believe in global warming. Joe Biden on the campaign trail explaining that global warming is the biggest threat mankind faces. He shouldlook in a mirror and see the bitch behind him.

psbindy
psbindy
October 29, 2020 8:58 pm

I see the historical line of the graph after the mini ice age going up and down some, like a happy little fish swimming, right up to the present. (2020)

From that point (the present) the dotted (future) line takes a plunge right down to the zero line, arriving there just after 2050 and staying at zero till 2100 at which time the graph line resumes it’s happy fish description.

Does anyone else get a hockey stickish vibe from that prediction?

Quote of the moment: Predictions are hard, especially about the future.
Yogi Berra.

mark
mark
  psbindy
October 29, 2020 9:33 pm

Yep…

“Even Napoleon had his Watergate”.

Yogi Berra.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
October 29, 2020 11:58 pm

I say its the MOON….but only the dark side.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
October 29, 2020 11:59 pm

The only thing that affects the data is the lying sack of shit scientists that are manipulating it.