A Danish study on whether masks prevent Covid-19 from being transmitted has been delayed for months. Now we know why. The study concluded they don’t work. If the study had concluded they do work, it would have been shouted out by the MSM four months ago. No one in the MSM will mention this scientific study because it doesn’t fit the narrative.
FOLLOW THE SCIENCE!!! RIGHT???
Despite trying to use weasel words, there was no significant benefit to wearing a mask. Masks are nothing more than a method for our totalitarian overlords to control us with fear and dehumanization. Remember this as Democrat governors again lock you down and demand mandatory masking/muzzling.
Link to full study: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817
Results:
A total of 3030 participants were randomly assigned to the recommendation to wear masks, and 2994 were assigned to control; 4862 completed the study. Infection with SARS-CoV-2 occurred in 42 participants recommended masks (1.8%) and 53 control participants (2.1%). The between-group difference was −0.3 percentage point (95% CI, −1.2 to 0.4 percentage point; P = 0.38) (odds ratio, 0.82 [CI, 0.54 to 1.23]; P = 0.33). Multiple imputation accounting for loss to follow-up yielded similar results.
Conclusion:
The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use. The data were compatible with lesser degrees of self-protection.
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The CDC came out three weeks ago and stated the WuFlu isn’t contagious by airborne means. I posted the link.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/cdc-admits-we-counted-51000-heart-attacks-as-covid-deaths/
I’m not taking their word on anything.
I was trained as a chemist. A large part of my professional career was working in various parts of the filtration industry. I developed a line of mixed esters of cellulose membrane filters. Millipore type filters, that were used to sterilize flu vaccines for Merck Sharp and Dohme as well as other medical products companies. I developed respiratory protection products for Wilson Safety Products used in the mining industry. I worked for Baxter developing medical / IV filters. I have patents on three IV filters I invented. Baxter sold more than 5 million of one of those every year for most of a decade. I know a little bit about filters.
Surgical masks were not designed as filters and were not intended to be used as filters. Surgical masks were designed to be used by surgeons standing face down over an operating table holding a patient with an open wound. The surgeon wearing the mask would be able to talk to others in the room without discharging spittle droplets into the patient’s wound. Spittle droplets are large and can cause infection.
I witnessed a test of surgical masks. Small plaster particles were generated in a room. They were visible as a white dust in the air. A man was properly fitted with a surgical mask and spent a short time in the room. When he came out the mask was removed. A camera was focused on the man’s face. The entire area that had been covered by the mask was coated by the white dust. The camera showed that his nostrils and his mouth had been penetrated by the white dust. The dust particles were measured and found to be around 40 micrometers in diameter. The particles that penetrated the mask were the same diameter.
Covid-19 virus molecules are about 0.1 micrometers in diameter. That is 400 times smaller than the plaster particles that penetrated the mask.
Surgical masks will not prevent the wearer from inhaling or exhaling viruses or bacteria. They provide absolutely no protection for either the wearer or anyone nearby. They create a very dangerous false sense of security for everyone. They also force the wearer to rebreath carbon dioxide. Which will over time reduce the wearers blood oxygen level. That can become very dangerous especially for older people.
This farce is being promoted by sleazy politicians who believe that if they can convince people that they are protecting them or creating a safe environment for them by pushing this mask farce those people will re-elect them.
All politicians pushing this dangerous mask farce should be voted out of office as soon as possible.
Voted out of office… Yeah that will work…
KB,will work if you vote .308,make your vote count!
Leftist science debunks that.
/sarc
That link is funny in how it does not prove what they say. From the video and common sense you can tell it is doing two things. 1. Shifting the direction of the breath to the left and right as you can see by his condensed breath moving out the side. 2. Giving the breath time to get to a similar temp as in the room. There is also 3. the guy is clearly taking much deeper breaths and breathing out much more without the mask than when he puts it on….that is very clear.
Great post.
Off topic- moderna and ofizer report 95% effectiveness rate. moderna had a total of 30000 participants and pfizer had 44000. Moderna’s trial had 90 infections in the placebo and 5 in the treatment. Pfizer reported 162 infxs in placebo vs. 8 in the treatment If we assume a 50/50 split in the “placebo” group and the treatment group, then infxn rates in the placebo groups are (90/15000 & 162/22000) 0.6% and 0.73% respectively. According to these trials we have almost nothing to worry about without a vaccine.
Covid 19 is the largest and most pervasive fraud and gaslighting event ever loosed on humanity. It is a premier vehicle that is being used to facilitate the largest wealth transfer/theft in the history of the world. Vaccines? People should realize that the amount of time and money spent promoting and propagandizing a ‘vaccine’ for this ‘deadly’ virus could have created a cure for cancer and a host of other deadly diseases.
The virus has successfully shut down huge swaths of the economy, destroyed small businesses, imprisoned (quarantined) massive numbers of people, torn down traditional bastions such as family, worship, holidays, and individual freedoms while successfully cementing a greater police state in place. Shut down small businesses, small farms, independent contractors, beauty shops, any and everything that isn’t tied to a big box store is shut down and eventually run out of business.
The virus has singlehandedly succeeded in destroying any vestige of voter integrity and turned the voting process into a sham of epic proportions. It is an all-purpose weapon directed at humanity with the goal of complete and utter enslavement.
New Normal? The Great Reset? World Economic Forum announces the Great Reset and tells you that you will own nothing and be happy. The Central Banks re-engineer the global financial networks with the end goal of one global digital currency. The vaccine contains the markers, the human body becomes it’s very own credit card. No need to swipe a bit of plastic, just wave your wrist over the scanner.
Go to 8:37…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pb5-qkMdFM&feature=emb_logo
Watch the whole dang thing. Frickin’ scary.
If you didn’t think this stuff was possible you would think it’s some strange movie plot.
I would concur with this analysis. the best masks we have are the N95 reserved for those in the health care industry. They will protect you from particles that are 1 micron or larger PROVIDING that they have a good fit around the face. The problem with this virus is that the COVID-19 virus can be anywhere from .8 of a micron up to 1.4 in size which means some of the virus below the 1 micron threshold will get through the mask. That’s just pure science. This is why some health care providers are getting sick, even though they are wearing masks, gowns and other PPE. The rest of us wearing cloth masks, is akin to erecting a 50 foot chain link fence around your property, to keep mosquitoes out of your yard!!
Fiat…better re-think what you wrote. A 1.4 inch Corona Virus coming at me makes me want to haul ass to safety .
A virus is typically 5 to 10 microns. The N95 masks filter anything above 300 microns. So your premise is correct.
1 micron is 0.001 millimeters ….1,000,000 microns is a meter .
I think it is read like this…. “from .8 of a micron up to 1.4 (in size)”. He was not stating inches but “in size”.
“N95 … will protect you from particles that are 1 micron or larger ”
Source?
N95 mask’s provide protection down to 0.3 microns, 95% of the time anyway.
Coronavirus is about 0.12 microns
Bucked… sorry I meant “in size” not in inches. Thanks for the read!
Yep Fiat…that big bastard would have killed me on first contact…LOL
“the “N95″ is a government efficiency rating that means the mask blocks about 95 percent of particles that are 0.3 microns in size or larger.”
A N95 mask only filters 95% of smaller particles.
Chemist – riddle me this: are virus particles exhaled individually, or as part of a droplet? Now riddle me this – what size are exhaled droplets? (Hint: studies have shown that the majority of aerosol droplets are 4-7 micron.)
You present info that individual virus particles cannot be trapped. But most expelled virus are in droplet/aerosol form, and such droplets are generally of a size that suggests they can be trapped by a good mask.
LL – when do droplets escape from you mouth? By breathing? I think it is by coughing and sneezing. In polite society (like 100% of western civilization), you always cover your mouth and/or nose when coughing and sneezing. This has been the rule for almost, what, 100 years?
Let me know next time you see someone coughing and/or sneezing into their masks.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Au4riy5TDB7CgpROIo6NwioJGBRpxg?e=x33QNd
Also, for the masks to be effective in this mode at all (they aren’t), the sides, edges, etc. have to be sealed (SEALED) … and no facial hair, etc. No one does this.
All of the above. “Say it don’t spray it” is a cliche for a reason.
https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2020/4/20/21225329/coronavirus-covid-19-spit-video-lasers-droplets
I am still an anti-masker.
Lipoh,
The droplets quickly dry up when you exhale, inhale, and the virus particles are then freed up. Basic science 101. MASK ARE USELESS.
You have any, you know, proof of that? Or is it you just saying it like you actually know something, when in fact you are perhaps guessing?
I posted below in a response to the Admin a section from the NEJM. It clearly states that “ Universal masking helps to prevent such people from spreading virus-laden secretions“.
The NEJM is a real source. An anonymous poster who doesn’t provide a source for their claim- not so much.
Again, all you moron downvoters, at least I have sources for what I have posted. You have nada. What a surprise.
I upvoted you LLPOH, because you are the best fighter on TBP. Of course, I give Admin is due as well. He is also Top of the Mark.
I learned from the pigs in our area growing up. Drag your opponent into the mud then beat them with experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOUEC5YXV8U
7:20 for you fucking FAGGOTS that like to obey the evil fucks in the white lab coats.
Someone has to make it easy for mask manufacturers to make money, dammit!
Thanks for posting. I read the study; it is very well done and will be hard to impugn. They accounted for people not adhering to the recommendation to wear masks and checked for differences at the subgroup level. No statistical significance anywhere. Of course, if this ever did make MSM (doubtful) they would play on the idiocy of the masses and point to the difference (1.8% versus 2.1%) and assert, “There! See? It did save lives. Even one life saved is worth it, right?” (Never mind the thousands of lives and millions of livelihoods lost due to the measures taken against the China virus.)
Again, the key bit that everyone is leaving out is that the study is examining whether an individual wearing it is protected, not whether they are passing it on when wearing it.
Does it prevent or reduce the risk of an infected person passing it on if they wear a mask? It does not say.
This study examines whether an individual wearing a mask amongst a population that does not, with moderate levels of disease running around, is protected. The data suggests a likelihood of modest protective effect. But it could actually cause more infections (probably owing to fiddling with the masks).
The big question, still unanswered, is if the entire population is masked, does it reduce infections? I doubt it. But no studies out on that.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/danish-study-suggests-masks-do-little-stop-covid-iowa-gov-insists-there-evidence-both
Studies all rely on antibody tests, PCR tests, or just syptomatic diagnosis to determine infection.
Anyone see a problem?
I have to wear a “Mask” at work when I’m out of my area . I wear a neck gaiter from
S.A Industries that I bought to wear when I fish . I can hold my hand in front of my face
a breath heavily through the mask and my palm is moist from what I exhaled . Yet this
is a perfectly acceptable mask to wear in Public.
I have cut up one of those disposable masks they hand out. Took off the top blue layer and the middle layer to make my own “mask” that I can actually tolerate. Haven’t been confronted by any Karens yet, but I don’t think they have any argument as the king has not specified the specifics of what is called a mask.
I made one out of a single layer of lace. My facial features are clearly visible through it and it is totally breathable. No one has confronted me, but I have gotten a lot of thumbs up and compliments on it.
I have been wearing a mask for years. It is to prevent scaring little children. It was either that or shave my ass and walk backwards.
I made a mask from window screen and a bandana. It keeps the fabric off my lips and nose. Exhaled breath goes through my beard, not on my glasses.
As Mark would say…”Sons of bitches and daughters of witches”.
That just earned you a jar of moonshine when you show up here in the spring! (If the frigg’in war hasn’t started yet!)
This supports my hypothesis- wearing masks encourages the touching of the face. Which transfers the virus to eyes, nose, and mouth.
The best thing I have seen on this was an ER doctor saying if you do not touch your face then you will not get the virus. He says do not touch your face and use hand sanitizer after you touch a foreign surface = negligible risk of getting infected.
Do not touch your face when out and about.
Yet, everyone thinks it is airborne.
HSF nailed this quite a while ago. It’s the flu bro.
Sweden, with no controls at all is doing worse than neighbouring countries that locked down/encouraged masks/social distancing….
False narrative a-hole. Sweden’s death rate is lower than all the mandatory mask countries in Europe.
Fake news. Denmark, Norway, Finland and Germany (being the closest countries to Sweden-your criteria!) all have considerably lower infection and death rates.
The tyrants are going to look into prohibiting Lumpen from having a canine pet as they are apparently a CoVid-19(84) disease vector. Read it for yourself:
https://nypost.com/2020/11/17/dog-owners-who-walk-pooches-at-higher-risk-of-contracting-covid-19/
Stopping people from having dogs will be that straw that breaks the kamal(a)s back and cause an immediate revolution.
The day that you say I cannot have my dogs is the day that my dogs will have you. Yes, that will be the straw that breaks your fucking neck. I’ve always said that to die for is the 1st amendment, then the second amendment, then the life of a child. let me add one more, the life of my dogs.
Let the De-bunking by the LEftists,MSM and the Social Media mobs begin .
My favorite line from them will be…” Just Do IT For The Old People and The Children ” .
Do you think the Liberal Biased Mainstream News Media will report this?!?!?!
Actually, that is NOT what that study said. It said that:
1) masks result in between a 46% reduction and a 23% increase. Taking a midpoint, that would be a best guess of 15% reduction in infections.
2) BUT it was based on a trial in a circumstance where mask wearing is not common.
And masks are not intended to protect the person wearing them, but to reduce the prospects of a person spreading the disease.
This study does not address, at all, the efficacy of wearing masks if it is community wide. It just addresses the efficacy of an individual wearing masks when the rest of the population does not. It certainly does NOT say that they do not work, or that they do not work if used universally, or whether they work when the outbreaks are large, or whether being inside or outside plays a part, etc.
The fact is, I believe that masks are likely to help spread the disease as they encourage people to touch their faces.
I am entirely against wearing them, but this is extraordinarily thin evidence to support a claim that they do not work.
Let the piling on begin.
“Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids. There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.” – CDC – May 2020
Admin posts “ There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure.”.
So, there is evidence. So he is saying I am right!
Hmm, do I go with “limited evidence” for prevention by wearing a mask or “lots-o-evidence” that it’s simply a training tool of the elite? Hmm…
“We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.” – The New England Journal of Medicine – May 2020
As a follow-up to the article Admin quotes above, the NEJM on July 9 said the following:
“ We understand that some people are citing our Perspective article .. as support for discrediting widespread masking. In truth, the intent of our article was to push for more masking, not less. It is apparent that many people with SARS-CoV-2 infection are asymptomatic or presymptomatic yet highly contagious and that these people account for a substantial fraction of all transmissions.2,3 Universal masking helps to prevent such people from spreading virus-laden secretions, whether they recognize that they are infected or not.“
So, the NEJM says masking helps prevent infected individuals from spreading the disease. Damn, seems that I am right again! I know how Admin hates to get his ass whupped, but I knew the sources before he posted, and was ready to shred his pathetic efforts.
I cannot help it – I have a gift. Plus I actually read what these studies said. Not that I agree, because they do not blind test for the critical aspects. And I read the current study, and it has huge holes in it. No conclusions can be drawn.
But anything that encourages touching the face, which is the main way of getting the disease, is to be discouraged. The hypothesis was that masks would result in less face touching, but some scientific observation of people wearing masks shows a marked increase in face touching, but I am unaware of any published studies.
Llpoh after being schooled by Admin once again.
Common sense says mask do not work. Now I must go put up a chain link fence to stop the damned mosquitoes from my house. I have never in my 75 years on this earth seen such stupidity on a massive scale. THERE IS NO TEST FOR COVID. All the testing bullshit is a gigantic fraud. How in the hell can you judge whether something works or not when THERE IS NO TEST FOR COVID. Wake the hell up people, what in the hell is wrong with you all???
This was never claimed, you fucking morons. The claim was that wearing a surgical mask makes it less likely you will transmit the virus to others. This is literally why surgeons wear them.
You’re told to wear the surgical masks because the government decided giving you a cheap placebo was easier than putting in the actual work involved in producing enough P100 masks for everyone – these are the masks that actually work. This is one reason you’re told that hydroxychloroquine doesn’t work – there isn’t enough of it for them and for you, even after them having 9 months to ramp up production, so you don’t get any.
The government decided it was just too much of a pain in the ass to do it right, so after they had arranged for their own needs to be taken care of, they just didn’t bother trying to do anything beyond that.
The article was published on 18th Nov. The MSM would’ve had trouble publishing the results four months ago….
Idiot. The results were known 4 months ago and they decided to not publish it. Did your mother have any kids that lived? Geez, the idiots I allow on the site.
I wear a n95 mask when I an in enclosed places with others. It may give me some protection. It is the best I can do if I am infected and asymptomatic To protect others.. It is the moral thing to do. any other type of mask is a failure on your part.
Make sure you sterilize the room like a surgery room and that mask is ok for an hour.
Karl, no one owes you anything.
karl…is that you???
Oh my God, those are gold.
Yea…he is worth subscribing to… satire at its razor wittiest.
You are not being moral enough, wear something like this.
How can masks prevent you from catching a disease that doesn’t exist? Looks to me like this is yet another fake study.