Do You Eat Food?

Submitted by Hardscrabble Farmer

Not a fan of NPR, but it highlights a lot of the problems we’re going to be facing without actually realizing why.

Like why would someone try and be a vegetable farmer in the high desert where the annual rainfall is less than 18″?

Seems either exceedingly shortsighted or mentally retarded, but like they say, even a blind pig finds an acorn sometimes.

Food for thought, as they say.

P.S. This is not a cry for help.

Via NPR

The Devastating Drought Across The West Could Mean An Increase In Farmer Suicides

Across the West, drought conditions are the worst they’ve been in nearly two decades. The dry weather is hitting farmers and ranchers particularly hard, who need water for their crops and livestock. But it’s not just their bottom line that’s being threatened. The effect of drought and climate change on agriculture workers’ mental health is increasingly concerning health care providers.

Mindy Perkovich has been a farmer for about 12 years.

“Every time I seed or plant a crop,” she says. “There’s like a certain amount of hope that goes with it.”

Perkovich typically grows things like turnips, squash and tomatoes for the local market on seven acres. This season, though, she’s had to cut her crops down to less than a single acre.

“We don’t know if we’re gonna have water to keep that alive,” she says. “Financially, I can’t really even express how dramatic it’s changed in the last couple years, water-wise, because without water, we can’t grow crops without crops, we have nothing to sell to our consumers.”

It doesn’t typically rain much in Southwest Colorado’s Mancos Valley, where Perkovich farms, and last week her irrigation water was officially cut off for the season. Sacrifices like that can be really hard on farmers’ mental health.

“When I walk outside of my house, and I look to the west, and most of our property is crispy and brown and dry, it makes me want to cry,” she says. “You can feel it deep inside of you because when you put your heart and soul into this work, and you go outside and it feels hopeless, I don’t really have the words to explain it further. I don’t know. It’s really sad.”

Farming is risky business

Farmers and agriculture workers have the second highest rate of suicides in the county where Perkovich farms, according to a state suicide prevention group called Celebrating Healthy Communities. And, when that group looked at drought and suicide data together, they found the two spike in tandem. That tracks with research from Australia and India linking climate change to significantly higher suicide risk for farmers.

Researchers also found that farmers and agriculture workers are the second-highest at-risk population in the county where Perkovich farms. That means they’re more likely to die by suicide than almost any other occupational group.

JC Carrica, a rural behavioral health specialist in Colorado, isn’t surprised by the findings here. He says that, in farming there are peaks of anxiety and peaks of depression that come with the ups and downs of weather and the agriculture market.

Perkovich typically grows things like turnips, squash and tomatoes for the local market on seven acres.

Lucas Brady Woods/KSJD

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that rural communities already have nearly double the suicide rate as urban areas. And drought is especially devastating for farmers, according to Carrica.

“When you see the wind come through and shear off whatever little bit of grass you had from a quarter inch of rain a couple of days prior,” he says. “It’s kind of the carrot and the stick, and sometimes there’s just not enough carrot to keep people’s hopes high.”

Rural areas have fewer mental health and suicide prevention resources, and Carrica says more effort needs to be made to get mental health care to farmers, on their level.

Few counsellors, lots of guns

Richard McKeon, who oversees the National Suicide Prevention Resource Center, says it’s not just a lack of services that’s behind America’s high rural suicide rate.

“People in rural communities and farming communities may be much more familiar with firearms,” he says. “And perhaps, that’s really a crisis that could lead to a tragic event, while there are other methods of suicide attempts that are not nearly as lethal.”

But McKeon also says that it’s important to understand that deaths by suicide are more complex than just one triggering event. Support from family and friends, for example, is just as important as professional mental health care.

Back on Mindy Perkovich’s farm, she’s had to lay off all of her employees for the first time ever, because there’s no water. And also for the first time, she sought out therapy.

“I was always really resistant to reaching out to a therapist,” she says. “I was like, No, I can handle this. I don’t need to have somebody else help me figure out my stuff. But I will say it was incredibly helpful.”

She says that she’s still holding onto hope for some rain and, until it comes, all she can do is keep planting and caring for whatever crops she can.

If you or someone you know may be considering suicide, contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255

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49 Comments
80% Fraud
80% Fraud
July 12, 2021 4:25 pm

You need more then a therapist to grow crops in the desert.

another Doug
another Doug
July 12, 2021 4:33 pm

With all the beautiful farmland in this country, why try to farm in a desert?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  another Doug
July 12, 2021 8:42 pm

Fucked up government incentives like cheap water that ultimately dries up because they encourage far too many to take the incentives. They grow almonds, rice, and cotton in California. You can’t get more water-demanding crops.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
July 12, 2021 11:03 pm

Then they export most of those crops.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  MrLiberty
July 13, 2021 12:55 am

+100,senor liberty–
add pecans & cool weather crops like lettuce & cukes to your list–

Ginger
Ginger
  MrLiberty
July 13, 2021 5:38 am

Also add alfalfa hay shipped to feed cows in China from California. Irrigation water from a drought area sent to make methane gas, just what are those progressives in California thinking, but I bet george clooney and sean penn approve.
https://ucanr.edu/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=29204

Yahsure
Yahsure
July 12, 2021 5:02 pm

I guess you would be surprised at all the food you get from Ca. and AZ. Does it make sense? No. the Colorado river is being bled dry. Flood irrigation with crops doesn’t make much sense either. Growing corn for ethanol? I’ve read about the midwests water tables dropping so much I guess people will be eating bugs eventually.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Yahsure
July 12, 2021 8:05 pm

Bill the Gates said that we’ll have to eat bugs … I wonder what he and his family will be eating …

Meanwhile, in CA the State still mandates wasting more than 1 Billion gallons of water per month on the snail darter or some such minuscule fish that even the UC Davis (?) says will never survive no matter how much water you throw at it.

Priorities and their choices … like elections … have consequences …

Ken31
Ken31
  Yahsure
July 12, 2021 8:19 pm

I haven’t heard much talk about those water tables lately.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ken31
July 12, 2021 11:05 pm

Ogallala Aquifer.

Ogallala Aquifer depletion: Situation to manage, not problem to solve

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Anonymous
July 13, 2021 10:17 am

anon,
the ogallala aquifer is an example of what every prepper should pay attention to–
over the years it has dropped many feet & i doubt that it can be used by a person who doesn’t have a deep well which requires gobs of electricity,which won’t be available if it ever hits the fan–
there are many places like that in rural america b/c of overuse of water–
if you don’t have water close to the surface & a means to get it w/o electricity,you don’t have it–

Bilco
Bilco
July 12, 2021 5:04 pm

So sorry miss Porkovich. If I could send you some of the rain we are getting here I would. This has been a year of near-record rains here in upstate NY. It is mid-July and the lakes and rivers are swelled like it is April.

Ken31
Ken31
  Bilco
July 12, 2021 8:20 pm

I knew someone was stealing our rain this year.

TheAssegai
TheAssegai
July 12, 2021 5:12 pm

This is what the NPR story is ALL about, Firearms.

Richard McKeon, who oversees the National Suicide Prevention Resource Center, says it’s not just a lack of services that’s behind America’s high rural suicide rate.

“People in rural communities and farming communities may be much more familiar with firearms,” he says. “And perhaps, that’s really a crisis that could lead to a tragic event, while there are other methods of suicide attempts that are not nearly as lethal.”

Also, if they would quit with the geoengineering, things would be different.

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
  TheAssegai
July 12, 2021 5:23 pm

You noticed that as well. Good job.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  TheAssegai
July 12, 2021 5:41 pm

That’s how it always is with NPR. You just wait until they circle back to the real agenda…
1) Gun control 2) Climate change 3) get your vaccine 4) YTPIPO are rayciss or 5) some kind of gay-ass tranny bullshit meant to derail reproduction.

It’s like listening to Mexican polka on the radio. Will I hear the word “corazon” in the first 15 seconds or will it take a full 30 seconds?

Ken31
Ken31
  Iska Waran
July 12, 2021 8:21 pm

Yes

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  TheAssegai
July 12, 2021 6:11 pm

“…more effort needs to be made to get mental health care to farmers…”

Ah, yes, the crazies in the boonies need help from the mental health people in the completely sane cities, got it.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  hardscrabble farmer
July 12, 2021 6:37 pm

Go to a mental health professional and bye bye firearms.

Centinel
Centinel
July 12, 2021 6:11 pm

I refuse to accept anyone walking through their ‘crops’ in sandals referring to themselves as a farmer.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Centinel
July 12, 2021 6:59 pm

You are correct. Mexicans farm barefoot.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
July 13, 2021 3:45 pm

Did asians used to work barefoot in paddies or wear sandals?

Ken31
Ken31
  Centinel
July 12, 2021 8:22 pm

Your sentiment seems correct to me.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Centinel
July 13, 2021 3:15 pm

I’m not defending the androgynous hipster gardener person above, but the vast majority of farmers are just equipment operators. Good luck talking to them about something other than prices, government programs (because money), how bad the weather has been, or the brand names of chemicals.

I was unsurprised to find that farmers around here have been wearing masks more than any other group of white folks other than women who work in offices.

Stucky
Stucky
July 12, 2021 6:33 pm

From a suicide hotline website. Really.

— Suicide Hotline Script Requirements

—— At least 8 lines per person

—— At least 5 warning signs; including an urgent sign is optional

—— Think about how someone who is suicidal might really feel – don’t make a joke of the activity

So, you need to tell a counselor NOT TO MAKE A JOKE of a person’s threat to kill themselves????? Probably this guy …

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If a farmer thinks about killing himself because his carrot won’t pop up then he’s taking his job way too seriously.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
July 13, 2021 6:43 am

It’s not about the “carrot popping up”. It’s about having the money to pay the bills and keep a roof over your family’s, and your, head. It’s about keeping food on the table. It’s about keeping things as “normal” as possible for your children. It’s about being a failure when it’s not your fault. It’s about doing everything right and still failing, even if it’s due to circumstances beyond your control. It’s about all of that at once because you can’t see through to the other side.

Trying to farm in the desert? Nope, not a good idea. But there it is and it has to be dealt with. “Gee, it was really stupid of me to drink and drive” a person thinks as they use the jaws of life to pry them out of the twisted pile of junk that used to be their car. Was it a smart thing to do in the first place? Nope. Will they do it again? High chance yup. That’s people for you.

judgeroybean
judgeroybean
July 12, 2021 6:37 pm

OK, I missed something here. Tell me again why California is dumping billions of square meters of fresh water into the Pacific ocean every month. Kinda makes me wonder if China is behind so many radical environmental movements.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
July 12, 2021 6:42 pm

Just finished this novel about life in Texas during the dustbowl years, and also in California after and during the depression migrations. Highly recommended. Man made climate change my ass. These people truly suffered.

https://www.amazon.com/The-Four-Winds-A-Novel/dp/B0882VNQKS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1BVDZ4EHATGV9&dchild=1&keywords=the+four+winds&qid=1626129333&sprefix=the+four+winds%2Caps%2C190&sr=8-1

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
July 12, 2021 8:01 pm

She is worried about her crops drying up and I am worried about my gardens washing away. We have had 5″ the past 3 days, including 1 1/4 this afternoon.

Unreconstructed
Unreconstructed
  TN Patriot
July 12, 2021 11:59 pm

Most of my garden in S. Louisiana drowned.

Treefarmer
Treefarmer
  TN Patriot
July 13, 2021 12:46 am

The grass is always greener. Even though we have an almost built proof well, seeing all the water in the eastern half of the country often gets us thinking about moving out of North ID.

robb88
robb88
  TN Patriot
July 13, 2021 4:30 am

are u in the deep south?

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  robb88
July 13, 2021 9:35 am

Mid-South, near Memphrica. My son lives in OK and they had a rainy period set in on them a few weeks ago. It is the weather patterns. A front will stall out nearby and the south wind brings moisture from the gulf. It will clear out and get hotter than blazes until the next front.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
July 12, 2021 8:51 pm

The state of California lets pistachio farmers water their trees with super cheap water, so more and more farm them,, while the federal government bans us all from buying superior pistachios from Iran. Israelis buy pistachios from Iran for christ sake. Government has done everything possible to make a bad situation worse. Meanwhile heavy rains fall elsewhere in this country but nobody farms nuts there.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  MrLiberty
July 12, 2021 11:38 pm

Meanwhile heavy rains fall elsewhere in this country but nobody farms nuts there.

Why is that? Is there an opportunity?

Cornhole Jones
Cornhole Jones
  Glock-N-Load
July 12, 2021 11:53 pm

Not all nuts are created equal.

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BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
  Cornhole Jones
July 13, 2021 4:31 pm

Some nuts are bigger than others .

Yahsure
Yahsure
  Glock-N-Load
July 13, 2021 10:39 am

Pipelines? for water.

Jackfruit And Grains
Jackfruit And Grains
  Glock-N-Load
July 13, 2021 12:38 pm

There might be opportunity for some, specific nuts and fuits in other parts of the country.

HOWEVER, as a fruit grower with about 150 trees in the midwest, I can tell you there are many days when I wish I had California’s average growing conditions.

What California farming offers is:

1.) Degree Days – essentially, the amount of sun on average is HIGH compared to so many other U.S. locations
2.) Anti-Fungal Environment – the Degree Day count means SUN and that means dry, wind/breeze and those mean far less Fungal Stress and fruits/veg are highly susceptible to fungus.
3.) Pro-Flowering Environment – stable weather conditions on average equate to an awesome and predictable spring and that means good pollination. In the midwest and elsewhere, there are years where the spring comes and goes 10 times before, and sometimes after, “last frost”. Rain below 50 degrees and cold/frost are bad environments for insects that pollinate and those years equate to far less (sometimes zero) fruit.

Anyone growing peaches (directly related to almonds and the trees actually look the same), pears, apples, plums and cherries, along with many varying fruit/nut/vegetable crops, is aware of the position taken: You are at the mercy of Mother Nature.

The “mercy” is a little easier to find in a hot, dry, stable climate like Cali’s central valley….’til the water runs out.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jackfruit And Grains
July 13, 2021 3:36 pm

Is there any place to find large amounts of tree/fruit seeds without spending tons of money? I can’t even seem to find abandonded orchards in my area. And yes, I know that’s not how most people start trees, I’m not looking to do this commercially.

Juices And Grapes
Juices And Grapes
  Anonymous
July 13, 2021 4:27 pm

Depending on what you are growing, you are trading time for money. In this case, it is my belief that the money has less value than the time because you can buy a 3-5 foot, 3 year old tree with about an inch diameter trunk for 30-50 bucks retail. If you need 100+ trees, you can go to a tree farm and get them for 10 bucks or less.

Let me shed some more light on this topic…

If you buy a fruit tree, that is 2-3 years old and around 3-5 feet tall, you will wait years to get fruit depending on the type of tree:

1.) Apple – average 8-10 years old before first fruit
2.) Pears – average 5-7 years old before first fruit
3.) Peaches – average 5-7 years old before first fruit
4.) Plums – average 5-7 years old before first fruit
5.) Cherries – average 3-5 years old before first fruit

So, you will plant a seed today, and wait at least 3 years before you would get anything (you might get a handful of cherries sooner). On top of that, the first years of production for a young tree will not see the tree load up with fruit. For peaches, as an example, you MIGHT start to get blossoms in year 3 and maybe even hold some of that fruit on the tree to get 5 pieces at the end of that year. For any real production, the tree needs to be over 5 years old.

That said, if you want to do seed, you can. Peaches are a great example of a SELF-POLLINATING fruit that will have an extremely high chance of producing the same thing from each seed/fruit each year. The problem is there aren’t a lof of fruits that will self-pollinate. Apples won’t. Pears won’t. Plums won’t (well, Europeans won’t but Japanese will but they won’t do each other). Cherries won’t (well a couple will, like Stella, but that’s it). If they don’t self pollinate, that means the fruit will be a cross between two trees. The vast majority of the time, that means lower quality fruit and that is why almost all fruit trees in the U.S. (millions and millions of trees) are all CLONES.

So, find someone with a variety you like so you can make your own clones. Ask if you can take a decent cutting (3-5 foot/1 inch diameter max). Then read up on grafting. The spring you take the cut is the same spring you will have gone online and purchased Root Stock (available at a lot of nurseries too). Make sure you get the rootstock that matches your soil requirements, tree size (full, dwarf, semi-dwarf) and type of fruit. Watch some videos (like 10 minutes), make the graft and set the tree aside to begin growth.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  MrLiberty
July 13, 2021 9:37 am

Lots of pecans are grown in the south.

Yahsure
Yahsure
  MrLiberty
July 13, 2021 10:38 am

I read about Almond growers in southern AZ sucking up so much water that the wells ran dry.

Treefarmer
Treefarmer
July 13, 2021 12:42 am

Going into therapy to solve your stress over a lack of water is one of the dumber things I’ve heard lately, and there’s a lot of commissary in the world these days.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 13, 2021 1:15 pm

“You can feel it deep inside of you because when you put your heart and soul into this work, and you go outside and it feels hopeless…”

Nature’s a stone cold bitch like that. Everyone who grows things long enough feels this, whether it’s a drought, hail, or whatever. Manage what you can, live with what you can’t, everything has bad times but if they continue, maybe it’s a sign that you need to do something different.

Even worse is when it’s preventable, like the government or the neighbors fucking your shit up.

I don’t know anything about farmer suicides, but I’ve noticed that the assholes who would gladly kill every animal, every tree, every plant, every speck of life in the dirt (can’t call it soil), anything for a buck, never seem to commit suicide.

Remo
Remo
July 13, 2021 3:30 pm

2 years ago California had an abundance of water and 7 years supply in the reservoirs.
Politicians released that water into the ocean.

Stan Sylvester
Stan Sylvester
July 13, 2021 4:35 pm

I read every comment. I didn’t see one referring to geoengineering. Weather warfare is the crown jewel of the military industrial complex. You can attack a city, state or country and no one knows you are there. In 1962 LBJ bragged about controlling the weather in a commencement address. It’s on you tube.
The powers that be are flooding one area and burning another area. Those white streaks you see overhead contain aluminum, barium and other nano particulates. The agenda of these scoundrels can be debated. What cannot be debated is that it is happening. For more info go to geoengineeringwatch.org with Dane Wigington.
Psalm 26:5
“I hate the assembly of the wicked and I will not sit with the wicked.”