guys,
i need help–i’m probably the biggest procrastinator on this blog–as many x as we’ve talked ivermectin,i have never bought any–
guess what? i woke up w/aches/pains,sniffles i’ve had 4 a few days–it progressed to a fever of right at 100*–my wife has some home test kits 4 covid & it says i have it–
i hauled ass up to a small town about 20-25 miles north that has both a rural king store & a tractor supply store & rural king had tons of animal ivermectin,i didn’t even go into tractor supply–
i bought ivercare brand paste,1.87%–for horses,it is already dialed in to 250 lb dosages,which is only about 10 lbs. above my weight–
a few questions–
regarding the ivermectin,is the 1.87 too strong and do i need to cut my dose a bit or is that dose ok ?
if i am a few lbs below the cutoff point,does it make a difference?ex,if i am 240 & the dose is for 250?
my 87 yo mom who has metastic melanoma has been staying w/me–she weighs around 200 lbs–
can i just adjust her dose down or is there a reason she should not have it?
what are the other things i should take along w/the ivermectin ?
if i do not have the other items here,should i start the ivermectin?
one last question,when should i take my next dose?
thanks in advance
Hope you are well soon. I have found this to be a reliable source of info regarding ivermectin
just a snippit from that post……
The dose is 1 milliliter/cubic centimeter per 110 pounds (50 kg) of body weight. As a prophylactic, the convention is now pretty much to take it monthly. If a person is already feeling sick, the treatment dose is THREE doses as above, but spaced 48 hours apart. So one dose on Monday, the next on Wednesday, the next on Friday, for example. The 48 hour spacing has to do with the liver’s speed at metabolizing Ivermectin. The 48 hour spacing MAXIMIZES the efficacy of the drug in the body.
By chance are you on good terms with your local horse doctor? Give him or her a call and just ask……
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf
The horse paste deworming dose for horses is the same as the FLCCC preventative dose of 0.2 mg/ kg body weight. So they equate pound for pound. Read the FLCCC treatment protocol at the above website. They recommend 0.4 to 0.6 mg/kg for treatment, which is 2 to 3 times the dose per pound recommended for prevention.
Thank you for putting this up. I think it should be part of everyone’s prep and I just added it to mine.
The recommended dose is the same as for horses .2mg/kg body weight. A common dosage I’ve read is 12mg for 3 days. There are a lot of places to look for yourself, such as
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3636557 or
I use MMS, but each to his own.
Also, take it with oily food such as peanut butter.
This FLCCC website HH listed has the link to the protocols
3 doses each spaced 2 days apart, should do it…
That’s if you have the sniffles, but don’t feel really sick yet.
If you’re fully sick already, daily dose for 5 days or until recovered:
https://flccc.net/flccc-alliance-mathplus-protocol-english/
How old are you? In the unlikely event that your O2 starts dropping close to 90% or less, consider taking 100 mg daily of Losartan – an ARB (blood pressure med) for seven days. It mitigates a cytokine storm.
Tampa, I too did not have any ivermectin or HCQ on hand when both my wife and I came down with the Chinese sniffles last month. I’m 52 and my wife is 57, I’m a bit overweight, but not diabetic or any other comorbidities. I treated myself with Quercetin 500 mg per day, 5000 IU vitamin D per day, 1000 mg vitamin C, 100 mg zinc, and a multivitamin. Drink a lot of water, about 1 L per hour, if you’re not going to the bathroom at least once an hour that you’re not drinking enough. Also took Tylenol and ibuprofen and aspirin, alternating between one or the other every four hours. The feverSeems to stabilize at about 100.1, when the fever breaks, you’ll know you’re in the clear. The lack of smell and taste will take a few weeks to clear up.
I was told (by the guide of a Grand Canyon rafting tour) that a human stomach can absorb 0.7 Liters of water per hour maximum. If you drink more than that, you will induce diarrhea.
I forgot, we also took 12 hour Mucinex twice daily to prevent any settling in the lungs. Good luck and don’t worry.
Muxinex. Zinc cold tablets. Sudafed, the good stuff you have to show ID for, the other stuff is worthless.
Zinc like Coldeeze is the big thing for prevention but you have to use it within 24 hours of the onset of symptoms, I like to use it as soon as I even suspect I might be getting sick. Covid responds to it as do all the cornaviruses.
Vitamin D-3 is important, and some zinc
I can’t remember where I got the followers, but in addition to copying to my note, I printed it on paper and keep the hard copy with my ivermectin:
The dosage conversion for the Durvet ivermectin horse paste is as follows. There is basically 4mg of ivermectin per notch/serration in the tube. Currently, the recommended doses are:
* 18mg per week for prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection..
* 24mg per day for five days for early treatment of COVID-19.
NOTE: In the setting of poor clinical response, advanced disease, or obesity, higher doses should be used (target 0.4–0.6 mg/kg
Regarding the Durvet ivermectin horse paste:
If you do the math, the tube contains 6.08 grams of paste or 6,080 milligrams. The percentage of ivermectin in the gel is 1.87%. To derive the milligrams of ivermectin in a full tube you take 6080 x .0187 = 113.696 milligrams of ivermectin per tube. That is enough for a 1250 lb horse. The plunger stem has 28 serrations so when you open a new tube and push the plunger stem up to the first notch each notch thereafter will dispense 113.696 milligrams / 28 or 4.06 milligrams of ivermectin ( Just call each notch equal to an even 4 milligrams worth of ivermectin ). Per the tube, a normal dose ratio for ivermectin is .2 milligrams per kilogram of body weight.
* So for prevention you would take 4.5 notches/serrations per week.
* For early treatment you would take 6 notches every day for five days
250 lbs = 113 kg
0.4 mg/kg (low end for if you already have Covid)
113 x 0.4 = 45 mg <– That's almost half a tube of paste FOR ONE DOSE!
113.696 milligrams of ivermectin per tube.
Is this right?
Has anyone here even taken the paste themselves?
I would go get the monoclonal antibody treatment. DeSantis has the whole state set up for it, and it’s free. That’s what cured President Trump. Here’s a list of the sites. Supposedly you’ll be better in 6 hours.
Not a bad idea
so if i understood it correctly,the dose i took for 250 lb increments was only 1/2 of what i needed?
i’m not sure but what death might not be preferable to the taste of that stuff–
Yep…nasty stuff but FLCCC is advising 0.4 mg/kg for treatment or exposure
going to take it now–
i’m kinda hating on you,man does that stuff taste bad–i put it on a banana & could barely taste the banana–
I take the injectable orally and I doubt it’s much better. Get well soon.
If you weight 250 then you take five notches worth. Each notch is fifty pounds. 5×50=250. If you’re bad sick take it every 48 hrs. for three days. Then stop. The drug needs time to accumulate and too much is as bad as not enough and too often is also bad. Try it with applesauce. Don’t use peanut butter or anything sticky to wash it down. I left a more detailed comment below and linked to Ann Barnhardt who has been on this since day one. I’m from the KISS school so I’m not confusing myself with math.
The horses get one tube every six months and they really don’t like the stuff either.
Again, if you’re badly sick already, daily dose for 5 days or until recovered:
https://flccc.net/flccc-alliance-mathplus-protocol-english/
FLCCC even says double or triple dose [daily] upon hospital admission, compared to the prophylaxis protocol… your call, Tampa Red.
If I had a serious fever over 102F (Note: 100F isn’t even a fever in my book, relax) and was convinced it’s Covid (i.e. complete loss of smell, or problems breathing [which I’ve never had in my life]), I’d go with double dose for sure. Otherwise not.
thanks,star–
i’ll run out there tomorrow–even though it is labor day i suspect that they will be open–
Hey Tampa, I just bought a few tubes to have on hand last week. Same stuff 1.87, the girls at our hardware store told me a pea sized amount a couple days apart is all you need. The dispenser looks like it contains about five doses. I don’t think it matters if you’re ten pounds under on the weight. I’m not a doctor but the folks at our hardware store who told me about it have a great deal of horse sense. Good luck, and feel better.
You should have ducked.
I have read that you should also take zinc with the ivermectin.
thanks,tell the other anon i’m gonna kick his ass when i meet him–
duck hell,i would have run if i’d known when i was being exposed–
yes
Screw the knurled nut on the syringe to 250 lbs. Squeeze it into a spoon and stick it in your mouth. If you took it today, Sunday, then take it again Tuesday. And then finally again, Thursday. Same amount, every other day. If you need a voice, say so and I’ll throw my email in here and we’ll talk you through it.
lantern man,
i took the dose where i screwed it down to the 250 lbs dose–
thanks
Here is how I figured it out for myself. BTW I am not a doctor. Wouldn’t even want to be one these days. This example is worked out just for me, not you. It is for edutainment purposes only.
My Plan A is to go with tele-med, and get the human stuff. The following is for my Plan B, if there is no tele-med or there is a delay.
First, how much active ingredient is in a tube?
The tubes I bought are Durvet Ivermectin Paste 1.87%. Each tube has 6.08g of paste.
6.08g X .0187 = 0.114g = 114 milligrams Ivermectin per tube
Second – how much drug per day?
This is usually expressed as milligrams per kilogram of body weight per day. I got this off the FLCC documents, or some other web source. I don’t really remember where. I figured this would be for treating an active infection. So I went with one dose of 0.4mg/kg per day.
Me= 180 pounds / 2.2 #/kg = 81.8kg
81.8kg X .4 = 32.7 mg dosage per day.
Third How much should I dump out of a tube and into my gullet?
114mg/tube / 32.7 mg/dose = 3.5 doses per tube.
I did not try to count the little notches on the plunger yet. I will figure that out later if I need to. Or I will just wing it. Maybe round it to four doses per tube. Depends how I feel.
If any medically inclined person has an issue with my calculations please let me know so I don’t OD and end up on CNN.
Thanks!
Your math is sound for a treatment dose based on FLCCC protocols
Doc,side ?I am buying land/retire type to a degree and want to have a animal shelter/foster care ect.I do not expect vets to work for free but wonder how one with many animals gets at least a “corporate /fleet rate”and will have setup as a tax deductible entity in the long term/big picture.
As I did not make it as a rock star in band figure this will be the best late life style that will make me happy/keep me waking up in the morning gig.
Approach your local clinics and explain and present your situation. Clinics where I work or have worked often will offer some kind of discount for a shelter/rescue situation.
Thanx Doc!
It also occurred to me in a moment of clarity to actually talk to some folks already running such operations(unfortunately the need is great)for folks they use/recommend.
Ed,you need a lot more to OD!For initial actual treatment 24 mg/i.e. 6 notches a day/5 days.
Using as a rubber(prophylactic) ect. then 18 mg a week,4 and a 1/2 notches,again,add zinc to either protocol.
Tampa,hope this helps:
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That said ,after reading me link,pony paste for actual covid or think covid,24mg a day,i.e.,6 notches a day on pony paste,for those who live with you as a safety,one notch a day on the paste up to 4 notches a week,you are at least adding zinc I hope.
Get better and ask any more ?’s/thoughts/ect.,we may not have all the answers but will all do are best to help.
The irony,I have had a scratchy throat/phlegm buildup last day,am now on the notches and already the zinc,still having a few beers,yah,I know,dumb but figure me time limited.
Will post me feelings tomm. and hope Tampa and family doing well.
Some of these threads get a little bitchy, but you people are a valuable bunch.
Not just for the details, but for your situational support.
This is probably one of the better links I followed from Zerohedge many years ago.
Best wishes Mr. Red.
Ann Barnhardt…protocol for pony paste. You dose by weight. If you weigh 250 then look on the plunger, each notch is fifty pounds. five notches 250. If you’re concerned then squirt it on a plate and take a little less than what came out. This isn’t an exact science.
“The tube that the horse paste comes in has a built in measuring “clicker”. For reference, one tube is a single dose for a 1250 pound horse, so you know an adult human dose will be roughly one-sixth of a tube. The dosage is exactly the same as described above: As a prophylactic, the convention is now pretty much to take it monthly. If a person is already feeling sick, the treatment dose is THREE doses, but spaced 48 hours apart. So one dose on Monday, the next on Wednesday, the next on Friday, for example. The 48 hour spacing has to do with the liver’s speed at metabolizing Ivermectin. The 48 hour spacing MAXIMIZES the efficacy of the drug in the body.
You just eat it. It does not taste good. Whatever. Just eat it.”
Pony paste video…how to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB1s8sNNqeI&feature=emb_logo
Oh,one more “pony paste”thought,eat not on a empty stomach(unless you are tying to clear worms/parasites)but on a full stomach for or close to for,well,lets face the truth,a flu.
Even zinc and quercetin can give you the dry heaves on an empty stomach. Couple pieces of toast is enough to mitigate that. I’d take ~ 10,000 iu vitamin D, 500 mg C, 50 or more mg Zinc + quercetin.
Tampa,
Get into a good health food store and pick up everything you can in the link below.
Only change is the Glutathione…get L-Glutathione Enhanced with N-Acetyl Cysteine & Glycine.
Also get Vitamin K2-with D3 not just D3 (better absorption)…and add in some liquid Liposomal vitamin C and take heavy doses of it. I used it to kick the flu/covid (was never tested) when this crap first started.
What you can’t find you can get on Amazon and pay extra to have it rushed to you.
Good luck buddy…let us know how it is going.
I can go to the Post office Tuesday morning and send you some HCQ …send your address to Admin, he has my e-mail.
Let me know here?
thanks to all of you who posted,and thanks to you jim for posting this as a standalone article–
i’ve taken the initial ivermectin dose & will take the next dose in a couple of days–
tomorrow i will run out & get my supplements,as well as take advantage of the monoclonal antibody treatment–
hopefully i’ll be laughing about this within a few days–
Tampa,you and family will be fine,that said,do not procrastinate on certain goods/whether med/ammo/food ect.
That said,tis why this site and we are here,to get each other across certain lines in the sand!
Good deal. You might want to take your mom with you, too. Looks like she might be eligible also, because she might be considered at risk having been exposed to you. The brand name on this is Regeneron. It was $3,000 a dose until DeSantis stepped up. “Monoclonal antibody treatments can be prescribed by health care providers to individuals 12 years of age and older who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 or who have been exposed to someone with COVID-19 and are at high risk for severe illness and hospitalization. However, at Governor DeSantis’ direction, there is currently a standing order in Florida signed by the State Surgeon General that allows patients to receive this treatment without a prescription or referral if administered by an eligible health care provider. Such referrals are not required at any of the State of Florida monoclonal antibody treatment sites and treatments are available at no cost to patients.” Feel better, man. The politics are real, but so is the virus.
I think you’re done, Tampa…I’ll pray for you…
Hope you wake up feeling a lot better Tampa. Get well soon mate
240???? Really?? We’re talking comorbidity here…Red,….
Without knowing his height, really?
I’m not a giant, but 240 would have me just barely in the “moderately obese” range (BMI>30)
Oh, you must have been joking. Sorry for being slow.
Feel the love Red!
One if my regular youtube channels, Chubbyemu, addresses the HCQ issue and why you shouldn’t take anything not intended for human use.
You have been warned.
Contact your doctor.
1. Get a prescription for the monoclonal antibody treatment. You must have it within 10 days of symptoms. Best at day 4 to 5.
2. Buy a pulse ox, a thermometer and blood pressure cuff. Chart stats every 3 hours. If your ox drops below 90% , contact doctor.
3. Get a prescription for antibiotic for chance of opurtunistic bacterial pneumonia.
4. Get a prescription for home oxygen . Have at Ready if symptoms get worse. Will take stress off lungs and help prevent clots.
5. Talk to doctor about a prescription for low dose blood thinner to prevent clots. (Baby Asperin at minimum)
6. Up your dose of D3, zinc and C.
7. If cough gets worse, get a cat scan of lungs to check for covid pneumonia and clots.
8. Ivermectin? Why not. Dose by body weight.
My husband an I take the same dose – and he weighs 50lbs more than I do. No problems.
Great Post! Thanks to Tampa Red for asking the questions and thank You to Jim for seeing it important enough to post. And BIG THANKS to all You well-informed commenters on this thread. Y’all certainly gave me some very useful information and answers to a lot of my own questions.
Thank You all again. ~ Pax Vobiscum
Anon,thanks for asking ?,and keeping us on our toes!