Some common sense advice from two billionaires

Guest Post by Simon Black

Elon Musk didn’t have a care in the world last week as he hilariously mocked questions in a live interview with the Wall Street Journal.

The Journal’s reporter had essentially prepared a number of softball questions designed for Elon to praise the US government’s new ‘Build Back Better’ bill.

If you haven’t heard, the legislation contains a number of provisions which should greatly benefit Tesla, including major subsidies to build electric vehicle charging stations across the US.

But Elon had no interest in the puff piece.

“Unnecessary,” he interjected when the reporter started to ask what he thought of the subsidies.

“Do we need support for gas stations? We don’t. So there’s no need for support for a charging network. I’d delete it. Delete.”

This left the reporter flummoxed… how could Elon possibly not be excited about “free” government money that would support his business?

But Elon’s point seemed completely lost on her.

“Seriously we shouldn’t pass it,” Elon continued, almost exasperated.

“If we don’t cut government spending, something really bad is going to happen. This is crazy. Our spending is so far in excess of revenue its insane. You could zero out all billionaires in the country… you still wouldn’t solve the deficit.”

So the reporter said, well, let’s change the subject.

Elon then sounded-off on issues like the rise of China and corresponding decline of the US. He also called declining birth rates “one of the biggest risks to civilization.”

Now, Elon Musk is a famously eccentric character.

But another more ‘traditional’ billionaire is also on board with this ethos.

Ray Dalio founded and runs the largest hedge fund in the world, Bridgewater Associates.

He has been very vocal over the past several years about the pathetic state of US government finances, and obvious shift of wealth and power away from the US.

For example, last year he published an article which asks, why in the world would you own bonds?

Dalio points out that, buying US Treasury bonds (which is tantamount to loaning money to the federal government) USED TO BE a good investment, back when America was actually creditworthy.

But now when you buy bonds, you’re loaning money to the largest debtor that has ever existed in the history of the world… and in exchange you are receiving return that is well below the rate of inflation.

Dalio points out that people still value US government bonds because of “the ‘exorbitant privilege’ the US has had being the world’s leading reserve currency, which has allowed the US to overborrow for decades.”

But there are signs of the changing global wealth and power dynamic, as international investors are starting to shift to Chinese bonds.

That’s a major theme in Dalio’s new book, Principles for Dealing with the Changing World Order: Why Nations Succeed and Fail.

Dalio has made it his life’s work to understand debt and political cycles, in order to foresee risks that others miss, and better serve his clients.

He makes a lot of the same assertions that Elon makes; for example, Dalio explains that economies, governments, and civilizations move in cycles. And in simple terms, there are good parts of the cycle, and there are bad parts.

The good part of the cycle is characterized by peace, prosperity, and production. The bad part includes recession, depression, inflation, social conflict, and war.

If you think about US history, we can see that the 1920s were a ‘good’ part of the cycle. The 1930s and 1940s were bad— the Great Depression, World War II, etc.

Then the 1950s and early 1960s were good again. The late 1960s through the early 1980s were bad, marked by extreme social turmoil, geopolitical conflict, and stagflation.

The mid 1990s through the mid 2010s were generally quite good, especially from an economic perspective.

Now we seem to be in transition once again to a bad part of the cycle— social conflict, inflation, geopolitical tensions, and more.

Dalio’s book, which I highly recommend reading, lays out a very clear case of what is happening right now, and why.

His ideas are quite similar to much of what we have been writing about for so long here at Sovereign Man.

And Dalio has suggested some of the same solutions that we’ve discussed in these pages.

First, education is critical: it’s imperative to understand how these cycles work in order to be prepared for what’s coming.

Mindset is also key: There’s no reason to panic. The world is not coming to an end. But it IS changing. Rapidly.

Dalio writes that the transition from the good part of the cycle to the bad part are rarely smooth or peaceful. And they often coincide with a shift of wealth and power.

And the United States, while still strong, is clearly losing its wealth and power thanks to its historical debt, massive deficits, an utter embarrassment in Afghanistan, the rise of Marxism, ridiculous ‘woke’ national priorities, etc.

For these reasons, it makes sense to take rational steps to mitigate these long-term risks.

Investors frequently diversify their portfolios to reduce risk; they spread their assets around different companies, different sectors, and even different asset classes, in order to ensure that they’re not over-exposed to a single set of risks.

Similarly, our approach at Sovereign Man is to diversify your geographic/country risk as well.

Give serious thought to the long-term risks where you live. Will your home country experience social conflict, inflation, capital controls, or war?

The good news is that not all countries are going through the same part of their cycles. By taking a global view, you can avoid the worst of the economic shifts that Elon Musk and Ray Dalio are talking about… and what we’ve been writing about for years at Sovereign Man.

This could mean securing foreign citizenship or residency, to ensure you always have another place to go, just in case you ever need the option.

It could mean using alternative assets like crypto or precious metals as a hedge against inflation. Or investing internationally to reduce exposure to your home currency.

The key idea is— don’t put all of your eggs in one basket… especially when that basket is the largest debtor in world history that’s blindly racing as fast as it can into a fiscal abyss.

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47 Comments
CCRider
CCRider
December 15, 2021 5:50 pm

So don’t finance a bankrupt and corrupt government? Ok and don’t accept any wooden nickels.

John Pietrusiewicz
John Pietrusiewicz
December 15, 2021 5:58 pm

Elon shows his shade of humanity at times. Then the same week he is man of the year on the cover of Time magazine, the biggest supporter of commie propaganda. The smell of corruption surrounds him no matter what he says.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  John Pietrusiewicz
December 15, 2021 6:52 pm

I think he believes America is nothing more that Kabuki Theatre and is simply playing with it like a cat and mouse. Is he that smart?

javelin
javelin
  Glock-N-Load
December 15, 2021 7:12 pm

I kind of agree. I think of him as “his own man”–take it for what it’s worth but his long-term self interests come first.
If the US collapses and we spend ourselves into non-existence then it is bad for him. He is a globalist financially but I don’t see him as part of the cabal who strives for overlordship and One World Governance. I believe his attitude would be, “where’s the fun and challenge if there are no more mountains to climb, things to build or horizons to explore.?”

pyrrhuis
pyrrhuis
  Glock-N-Load
December 15, 2021 11:46 pm

Musk has at least 6 sons, just maybe he’s a little concerned about the world they will face when he’s gone?!

CrashDavis
CrashDavis
December 15, 2021 6:04 pm

The one thing Sovereign Man hucksters WON’T do is observe, comment, warn or try to protect you from, the COVID death jab mandate Nazis conquering the globe and making us all slaves (while killing us by mandate with gene editing toxins)..
In fact, they blithely promote the worthless fake ‘escape’ to COVID Nazi gulags in the EU, Latin America and elsewhere that are using mandates to enslave their citizens at a breathtaking pace. Not a word on it from Sovereign Man fake-freedom hucksters. Not a word. They want you to proceed as if the destruction of everyone’s natural immune system with gene editing shit is an irrelevant footnote. Lets be honest, anyone recommending an ‘escape’ to any EU country and its death/lockdown mandates is trying to kill you.
What is the COVID mandate ‘Stringency Index’ of a country recommended as your new home by these clowns?
Its a question that MUST be asked FIRST by any honest advocate of freedom and safety. The never ask or answer it.

The fact that Sovereign Man, Doug Casey, Simon Black types gloss over it all and sweep COVID Nazi dangers under the rug tells you all you need to know about them. None of it good.

Stucky
Stucky
  CrashDavis
December 15, 2021 6:46 pm

Amen!!

Sovereign Man, Doug Casey, Simon Black and ilk don’t write to inform, don’t care if their advice makes sense, could care less what you or I think about them. They write their bullshit for $$$$$$$, nothing else.

javelin
javelin
  CrashDavis
December 15, 2021 7:15 pm

Exactly!
Protect your assets by moving to country under covid tyranny and without freedom.. eff them.

fujigm
fujigm
  javelin
December 15, 2021 10:38 pm

You protect your assets by placing them into corporations.
Maintain multiple in multiple jurisdictions.
Start several now and maintain them as shelf corporations.
Cheaper than buying one when you need it.
Abstract your involvement via shells.
And you can own nothing.
And be happy.

Red River D
Red River D
  CrashDavis
December 15, 2021 7:18 pm

Look at how this social commentary remark covers Revelation 6:2

“…The one thing Sovereign Man hucksters WON’T do is observe, comment, warn or try to protect you from, the COVID death jab mandate Nazis conquering the globe and making us all slaves (while killing us by mandate with gene editing toxins)…”

Revelation 6:2

I looked, and behold, a white horse, and the one who sat on it had a bow (gr TOXIN); and a crown (corona) was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

Must be a coincidence. Or three.

Stucky
Stucky
  Red River D
December 15, 2021 7:30 pm

and he went out jabbing and to jab.

.
.
FOUR coinkydinks!

PSBindy
PSBindy
  Stucky
December 15, 2021 7:52 pm

Stop. I gotta clean my computer screen now.

fujigm
fujigm
  CrashDavis
December 15, 2021 10:35 pm

All of these gents have advice they want to sell you.
Interesting reading, but not worth buying.
I have picked up some interesting tips from them (mostly Mr. Black), and done my own homework.
Like the lawyer that charges $2875 to set up a corporation for you when you can expedite a C-corp yourself for $175 (local jurisdiction, YMMV) in 20 minutes online.
They all talk about diversity, Simon talks about multiple passports (good), but nobody ever mentions diversity of identity.
And we all know how important diversity is.
Everybody should have at least three separate, fully developed identities.
Most people can flex their age 5 years up or down without makeup.
Simon, Mr. ex-spook, doesn’t even mention this.
Some years back, it was reported that there were 380 million distinct credit records in this country, but only 300 million people.
Think somebody knows something you don’t?
They’re probably just ‘diversified’.
These guys are just a start on contrarian thinking.
Everything you thought was impossible,
Isn’t.

BUCKHED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
BUCKHED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
  fujigm
December 16, 2021 12:25 pm

Ah…380 million distinct credit records…and 300 million people.

Well…most folks don’t have credit until they are at least 18 . I think there is around 65 million kids under the age of 18. So 300 million minus 65 million leaves you with 235 million.

That’s a lot of more multiple credit records…about 145 million of them .

I wonder if D.B Cooper was one of those multiple credit records ?

fujigm
fujigm
  BUCKHED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
December 16, 2021 2:09 pm

They hand out credit like candy when you are enrolled in college.
I’ve seen 17 year-olds with a wallet full of cards.
They want to get their hooks into you early.
Bonus tip; you don’t need a SSN to get credit.
Just shop around.
Building a credit profile, I told them I did not give out my SSN.
I sent copies of my enrollment in college and my DL.
60% issued a credit card.
BUT
No information is released to the big 3 without a SSN.
But they do not seem to verify the SSN when you provide the information after the credit profile exists.
The big 3 appear to simply create a credit record with the number and profile provided.
Anyone in the biz with more information please clarify.

Today’s rules of thumb:
– Garbage in, garbage out.
– It’s clearly a clerical error.
– “may” is not “shall”

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
December 15, 2021 6:51 pm

Pretty interesting.

Question: what type of historian studies changing societies, economies, political winds…as in changing from capitalism to communism to fascism to etc etc?

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Glock-N-Load
December 15, 2021 7:07 pm

All of them.
The ones who have no tenure and no prospects are the ones
who write about the opposite.

Llpoh
Llpoh
December 15, 2021 6:56 pm

I am no big fan of Tesla, for instance.

But Elon is a smart bastard, for sure and certain.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Llpoh
December 15, 2021 7:06 pm

And “The Honey Badger”

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
December 15, 2021 6:57 pm

There’s “Fuck You” money,
then there’s Mt. Everest “Fuck You” money.
Elon Musk is Edmund Hillary.
When you can titty twist pretty much everyone and do,
it puts a smile on my face. He’s one of the most entertaining
grifters since Barnum.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Colorado Artist
December 15, 2021 7:27 pm

He’d make a great president. Hahahaha

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Glock-N-Load
December 15, 2021 10:32 pm

He would be one of the best.
A misanthrope AND an iconoclast billionaire impossible to buy off.
Trump with a worse hairdo.
Sign me up.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Colorado Artist
December 16, 2021 12:13 am

I like Elon’s new hairdo. It’s kind of fascistic, so it irks all the right people.

morongobill
morongobill
  Iska Waran
December 16, 2021 8:49 am

The Grimes influence perhaps?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Colorado Artist
December 15, 2021 8:03 pm

If Musk lost every single cent he has, he would be a billionaire again a year later. He is just one of those guys. Some people can just make money. Wish I had that skill.

I have never had the sense he really cares about money. He knows he can make as much as he will ever need. He doesn’t seem to have big needs. He is a visionary and revels in the process, and makes money as a side benefit.

John Pietrusiewicz
John Pietrusiewicz
  Llpoh
December 15, 2021 8:12 pm

His dad had an emerald mine. It’s easy to make money when you already have a lot. He bought a 10-bedroom house to rent out rooms when he went to college. He is a lot like Gates. He puts out this info that he was a poor boy. When he never was.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  John Pietrusiewicz
December 15, 2021 8:33 pm

You have any source whatsoever that Elon benefitted financially from his father? I cannot find a single one. Not one. It always helps to come from a financially stable family. Most billionaires are not sons of super wealthy.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  John Pietrusiewicz
December 15, 2021 10:40 pm

Read what you wrote again, John.
“He bought a ten room house and rented out the rooms”..In college.
That was brilliant. Already making his own money.
Most rich kids in college are spending daddy’s money as fast as they can.
Musk was MAKING money with daddy’s money.

John Pietrusiewicz
John Pietrusiewicz
  Colorado Artist
December 16, 2021 2:10 pm

Some people are definitely entrepreneurs at heart. Elon was one. He also did gambling there too. Which shows he was also a criminal at heart.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  John Pietrusiewicz
December 16, 2021 12:15 am

If my dad gave me an emerald mine, I’d be “that dumb fuck who used to have an emerald mine”. Elon was destined to wealth because of his intellect, work ethic, vision and ballsy-ness. Who the fuck starts a car company (such as it is) and then a company to do what NASA used to do? Most people would have just taken the money he made from PayPal and buy a basketball team or something equally pointless.

llpoh
llpoh
  Iska Waran
December 16, 2021 2:10 am

He has a work ethic that is just about unrivalled. He sees opportunities and thinks non stop. He is very strange. But the world needs way more folks like him.

John Pietrusiewicz
John Pietrusiewicz
  llpoh
December 16, 2021 2:11 pm

Except not the Psycho criminal part.

GNL
GNL
  Llpoh
December 15, 2021 8:21 pm

I’m not disagreeing with you. I believe he is very smart. I think he’d make a great president for 2 reasons.

1 – his candor
2 – his smarts

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  GNL
December 15, 2021 9:34 pm

You guys all seem to enjoy your EM worship.

I think his persona is fake. All of it.

One guy doing it all: sending spacecraft into orbit, essentially inventing electric cars and making flamethrowers. Come on, man!

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Svarga Loka
December 16, 2021 12:20 am

Thomas Edison was a way bigger fake. Same with renaissance artists, etc. Probably all geniuses are largely also full of shit.

Walt
Walt
  Svarga Loka
December 16, 2021 1:11 am

Das rite.
Rockets are old tech now. They go up, then come down. Hardly revolutionary.
As for electric cars, they were around before the Model T.
And flamethrowers? Pfft. Where’s my Hoverboard?

Dirtscrather
Dirtscrather
  Svarga Loka
December 16, 2021 11:39 am

He makes flamethrowers? I used to think he was a douche, but if he can sell me a flamethrower……….

John Pietrusiewicz
John Pietrusiewicz
  Svarga Loka
December 16, 2021 11:58 am

You got that right. He never founded paypal and or Tesla. He like Gates are all into creating this myth that they were just poor boy entrepreneurs. When in fact they were from well off families.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  GNL
December 15, 2021 10:44 pm

AND his immense wealth means he can NEVER be bought.
“Fuck You!” money is real. You can never be influenced by personal
politicians or “leaders” of any stripe.
Unlike Slick Willy, The Kenyan, or The Manchurian Moron.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Llpoh
December 15, 2021 10:34 pm

Making money is so easy.
Keeping it is the problem.

morongobill
morongobill
  Colorado Artist
December 16, 2021 8:49 am

Elon must have some insight of what may be coming, he has been selling a lot of stock lately.

a9racer
a9racer
December 15, 2021 8:08 pm

Yeah, think I will put all my savings in crypto. That way when the EMP hits…Oh, wait

fujigm
fujigm
  a9racer
December 15, 2021 10:40 pm

I hope the EMP doesn’t smoke the points on my ’53 Jeep…

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
December 16, 2021 12:22 am

I still think electric cars are stupid.

Grant Piper
Grant Piper
December 16, 2021 6:11 am

yep, vote with your feet and vote with your wallet – they won’t listen to what you say or how you vote.

david
david
December 16, 2021 8:58 am

don’t put all of your eggs in one basket

I subscribed to this all my life but not now. If you’re not putting all your eggs in to hard, tangible assets that appreciate over time, well, you’re about to lose everything.

BUCKHED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
BUCKHED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
December 16, 2021 12:32 pm

Where would Musk be without the goobernment subsides of his cars ?

Elon I believe, wants most of humanity chipped….neuralink is the name