QOTD: IS VICTIMHOOD THE WINNING HAND?

QOTD submitted by GNL

After watching this video…https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/03/27/white-privilege-is-a-lie/
I was reminded of something I’ve thought about many times before. Victimhood is the winning hand. Do you agree? Why or why not?

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21 Comments
Stucky
Stucky
April 1, 2022 1:43 pm

It works for Kneegrows. Victimhood be verrry verry good to me!

Mel
Mel
April 1, 2022 1:43 pm

In the right environment, and for a very short period of time….perhaps. However, sooner or later, you will run out of self respect and/or other people who give a damn. At that point, you will encounter great difficulties.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
April 1, 2022 1:45 pm

No. Because anytime you have a victim mentality for something real or imaged you’re automatically putting yourself into a submissive role to someone or something. You can’t have victims without perpetrators. Anybody who claims victim status about any issue (i.e. racism, exploited labor, poverty etc.) they’re automatically handing their power over to someone or something external.

When they do this they also hand over their own power to free themselves from this mental dualism. If they never let go of their victimhood they’ll spend their lives mentally oppressed by their own beliefs while blaming an external cause they’ll never be able to fix. To some extent, we all do this at some point in our lives. We’ve all known someone who plays the martyr role regularly and throws themselves pity parties.

B_MC
B_MC
  Stephanie Shepard
April 1, 2022 2:57 pm

Anybody who claims victim status about any issue (i.e. racism, exploited labor, poverty etc.) they’re automatically handing their power over to someone or something external.

Scientific American agrees with you….

Those who have a perpetual victimhood mindset tend to have an “external locus of control”; they believe that one’s life is entirely under the control of forces outside one’s self, such as fate, luck or the mercy of other people.

The article goes on to describe…

THE VICTIMHOOD MINDSET

1. – Constantly seeking recognition of one’s victimhood. Those who score high on this dimension have a perpetual need to have their suffering acknowledged.

2. – A sense of moral elitism. Those who score high on this dimension perceive themselves as having an immaculate morality and view everyone else as being immoral.

3. – Lack of empathy for the pain and suffering of others. People scoring high on this dimension are so preoccupied with their own victimhood that they are oblivious to the pain and suffering of others.

4. – Frequently ruminating about past victimization. Those scoring high on this dimension constantly ruminate and talk about their interpersonal offenses and their causes and consequences rather than think about or discuss possible solutions.

1 and 4 are two sides of the same coin, I think. 2 and 3 are the most dangerous aspects of the mindset and reflect generally the foundation of progressive thinking.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unraveling-the-mindset-of-victimhood/

AK John
AK John
  B_MC
April 1, 2022 3:55 pm

The above is why I left the City of Chicago and joined the free world when I was 20.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Stephanie Shepard
April 1, 2022 4:28 pm

Steph,

Ultimately, I agree with you. But, at this time, it seems as though the perpetrators will be punished. Better to be a victim, right now in time, or to be punished as a perpetrator?

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
  Glock-N-Load
April 1, 2022 4:34 pm

It’s better to be neither. Let the dead bury the dead.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
April 1, 2022 1:46 pm

Yes, of course it is. Unless you’re white…and believe in personal responsibility.

Btw…I LOVE this girl. I know exactly ZERO women in real life who will speak this boldly. I watched that video several times…each time my heart swells with pride…White Pride.

Smedley Mulcher
Smedley Mulcher
April 1, 2022 2:05 pm

No it is not. The winning hand is individual freedom and self-reliance.

The Orangutan
The Orangutan
  Smedley Mulcher
April 1, 2022 2:52 pm

This right here. Regardless of the outcome.

i forget
i forget
April 1, 2022 2:22 pm

Do Worms ever have the winning hand? That’s not a rhetorical question for people who don’t care how they get so long as they get (&/or people who get a kick out of cheating) .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzoaY_tmHg8&t=308s

And if the victim card ain’t a winner how’s about the victimizer card? Does it matter how big Epstein’s pile of loot was before or after he was ejected from “the game”?

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
April 1, 2022 2:22 pm

Define Winning.

The Orangutan
The Orangutan
April 1, 2022 2:50 pm

Victimhood is the whining hand, not the winning hand. You simply can’t call any of these perpetrators “winners”. They are society’s losers, and their claims of victimhood only reinforce their loser status and their complete lack of shame.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  The Orangutan
April 1, 2022 2:59 pm

Tell that to white man who lost a job opportunity because the employer needed to fill a quota. Or, to the white student who loses the scholarship because it went to a minority…based on skin color.

The Orangutan
The Orangutan
  Abigail Adams
April 1, 2022 3:24 pm

I’m referring to the perpetrators of the “I’m a victim” mentality, who claim victimhood due to their false claim of somehow being marginalized by others. Governments and groupthinkers subsidize these failures to produce more of them. Thus is created “The Victimhood Game”.

Those white people are the REAL victims, but are they playing The Victimhood Game? How? If they have no platform, no recourse, no means or recouping their losses, no government program or initiative to label them a “marginalized group” that needs “barriers removed”, sure they anted up (tax$) but then are kicked away from the game table.

in The Victimhood Game, the more cards you have, the more likely you get OPTM ($), but the more likely you’re a loser in real life. Cards are dealt as follows:

Female – 1 card
Minority Male – 1 card
Minority Female – 2 cards
add 1 more card if each one above if also an “alphabet person”, and yet another card if they “transitioned”

No one in the above list is forced to play The Victimhood Game, yet playing it is highly incentivized by TPTB and the Left.

but White Male = 0 cards. You aren’t even in the game.

The Orangutan
The Orangutan
  The Orangutan
April 1, 2022 3:28 pm

OPTM = Other People’s Tax Money

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  The Orangutan
April 1, 2022 3:31 pm

Yes, there are two perspectives floating on this thread. I see it as definitely a winning hand…not because what it does to your psyche, but because what these groups are able to do to the white male…as you pointed out. Clearly, they are not winning here.

The Orangutan
The Orangutan
  Abigail Adams
April 1, 2022 3:54 pm

I feel that what these groups are doing to the white male – only they and their subsidizers see as “winning”. But I feel all of society actually loses – divide but no conquer (yet), and I see those groups as losers, regardless of what they may individually or collectively gain. The woman seen in the video I feel is neither a winner or a loser as she’s taking on the battle (great) but forced to play their game (bad). Not sure how she wins when no one of importance (TPTB) will listen. Yet kudos to her and her willingness to take on that uphill battle. The woman off-camera? Loser, with a capital L.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Abigail Adams
April 1, 2022 4:42 pm

AA,

This is my point. If the white man is the perpetrator and perpetrators are to be punished by society, maybe it’s time to become a victim so that you are no longer viewed as a perpetrator.

Question: is the woman in the video acting like a victim or standing up? It seems to be a fine line to me.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Glock-N-Load
April 1, 2022 5:02 pm

GNL… I don’t believe in playing the victim card no matter what, ever.

It sounds like the woman in the video is educating vs. asking for special privileges. But, hard to tell exactly what her purpose is there from this clip.

So, to me, it appears that she is standing up for her people…which is AWESOME!

All this white privilege BS (that I saw in schools) that was forced on EVERYONE just pisses me off to no end. I don’t hate other races, I just hate what they’ve done to ours.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Abigail Adams
April 1, 2022 6:13 pm

Whites standing up is called White Fragility.

I’m ok with white victimhood if…

1) it is used to mock the victimhood mentality
2) it is used to show that the real victims are the ones who are being forced to give give and give some more