In This Time of War, I Propose We Give Up God

This is NOT my article.  This was an editorial in the NY Slimes this past weekend. It is written by a Jew.  OK, fine, he is entitled to his opinion. To be honest — and I know that at least some of you will  condemn me to hell for saying this — I also have wondered if humanity would be better off without this God as depicted in the Old Testament.  Mark Twain sure didn’t like that fella.

But,my main reason for posting this is that there are still people who post here … some are newbies, some are regyoulahs … who say America is based on a “Judeo-Christian” culture.  Please, just stop.  There is no such thing. The core tenets of these two faiths are diametrically opposed.

I’m not saying they should hate us or, that we should hate them. People have the right … yes, RIGHT! … to believe what they want. If they are “evil” for what they believe, well, OK fine.  Not my problem. Not your problem either. Let God sort it out in the end! OK?

However, what I am saying is that when you MIX religions together, in this case two of them,  you ultimately destroy the meaning of BOTH of them … and the concomitant effect on society can be devastating. Let Jews be Jews.  Let Christians be Christians.  But, for Godssake don’t foist your Judeo-Christian crap on me!  Thank you.

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This weekend, Jews around the world will celebrate the holiday of Passover, the name of which comes from the story of God “passing over” the homes of our distant ancestors on his way to slaughter the first born sons of evil Egyptians. Our forefathers, the story goes, marked their doorposts with lamb’s blood in order to spare their own sons the awful fate of their enemies.

In this time of war and violence, of oppression and suffering, I propose we pass over something else:

God.

Two aspects of the Passover story have troubled me since I was first taught them long ago in an Orthodox yeshiva in Monsey, N.Y. I was 8 years old, and as the holiday approached, our rabbi commanded us to open our chumashim, or Old Testaments, to the Book of Exodus. To get us in the holiday spirit, he told us gruesome tales of torture and persecution.

“The Egyptians,” he told us, “used the corpses of Jewish slaves in their buildings.”

“You mean they used slaves to build their buildings,” I asked, “and the slaves died from work?”

“No,” said the rabbi. “They put the Jewish bodies into the walls and used them as bricks.”

My father was something of a handyman at the time, and this seemed to me a serious violation of basic building codes, not to mention a surefire way to lose a home sale.

“Is this brick?” the interested couple asks.

“No, no,” says the realtor. “That’s corpse.”

But just as troubling — even more so today in light of the brutal slaughter taking place in Ukraine — were the plagues themselves.

God, the rabbi said, struck all the Egyptians with his wrath, not just Pharaoh and his soldiers. Egyptians young and old, innocent and guilty, suffered locusts and frogs, hail and darkness, beasts running wild and water becoming blood. Mothers nursing their babies, the rabbi explained, found their breast milk had turned to blood.

“Yay!” my classmates cheered.

But Pharaoh, the story continues, still wouldn’t relinquish his slaves. Technically this was God’s fault as he “hardened Pharaoh’s heart,” but the issue of free will wouldn’t begin troubling me until my teens. And so God, in his mercy, started killing babies.

“Every firstborn son in the land of Egypt shall die, from the firstborn of Pharaoh who sits on the throne to the firstborn of the servant girl.” Exodus 11:5.

Surely, I wondered, there were some Egyptians who didn’t whip Jews, who didn’t have anything against Jews at all? Surely there were Egyptians horrified by slavery, Egyptians who disagreed with Pharaoh as often as we do with our own leaders?

“Everyone?” I asked the rabbi. “He struck everyone?”

“Everyone,” the rabbi said.

“Yay!” my classmates cheered.

God, it seems, paints with a wide brush. He paints with a roller. In Egypt, said our rabbi, he even killed first-born cattle. He killed cows. If he were mortal, the God of Jews, Christians and Muslims would be dragged to The Hague. And yet we praise him. We emulate him. We implore our children to be like him.

Perhaps now, as missiles rain down and the dead are discovered in mass graves, is a good time to stop emulating this hateful God. Perhaps we can stop extolling his brutality. Perhaps now is a good time to teach our children to pass over God — to be as unlike him as possible.

“And so God killed them all,” the rabbis and priests and imams can preach to their classrooms. “That was wrong, children.”

“God threw Adam out of Eden for eating an apple,” they can caution their students. “That’s called being heavy-handed, children.”

Cursing all women for eternity because of Eve’s choices?

“That’s called collective punishment, children,” they can warn the young. “Don’t do that.”

“Boo!” the children will jeer.

I was raised strictly Orthodox. Old school. Shtetl fabulous. Every year, at the beginning of the Seder, we welcome in the hungry and poor Jews who can’t afford to have a Seder themselves. It’s a wonderfully human gesture. A few short hours of God later, at the end of the Seder, we open the front door and call out to Him, “Pour out thy wrath upon the nations that did not know you!”

And God does. With plagues and floods, with fire and fury, on the young and old, the guilty and innocent.

And we humans, made in his image, do the same. With fixed-wing bombers and cluster bombs, with self-propelled mortars and thermobaric rocket launchers.

“Why did God kill the first-born cattle?” my rabbi said. “Because the Egyptians believed they were gods.”

Killing gods is an idea I can get behind.

This year, at the end of the Seder, let’s indeed throw our doors open — to strangers. To people who aren’t our own. To the terrifying them, to the evil others, those people who seem so different from us, those we think are our enemies or who think us theirs, but who, if they sat down around the table with us, we’d no doubt find despise the pharaohs of this world as much as we do, and who dream of the same damned thing as us all:

Peace.

SOURCE:  NY Slimes

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m
m
April 18, 2022 12:51 pm

Stucky, you’re not getting the joke.
I like to call it Greco-Judeo-Christian, to make it a little more obvious that this is a progression.

In other words Christianity surpassed Judaism.

ran t 7
ran t 7
  m
April 18, 2022 2:06 pm

“christianity surpassed judaism.”

not exactly. judaism is about jews and nothing more. christianity is about jesus. christianity is a return to god.

“greco-judeo-christian”

precisely. with protestantism I’d add germanic.

m
m
  ran t 7
April 18, 2022 2:11 pm

judaism is about jews and nothing more.

That’s one reason why Christianity surpassed them.
 

“greco-judeo-christian”
precisely. with protestantism I’d add germanic.

But that’s a REgression.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
April 18, 2022 2:26 pm

Jesus in fact was sent to complete the teaching needed to properly administer God’s Law. His message was that the Law remained, but must be administered with love and compassion.

Certainly in that way Christianity seems superior to Judaism, but in reality, Jews have mostly also come to accept this admonition of God, sent through Jesus. I say mostly because I don’t believe that all have, just as not all Christians have accepted that fundamental teaching of Jesus.

Far too many Christians believe that other Christians are not “real” Christians because of differences in dogma and doctrine, but it seems clear that most of the people who lived in the new States at the founding of America were Christians, or claimed they were anyway.

I don’t see that as of much importance, because the national government that was created guarantees religious liberty. There can however be no doubt that the concept of each individual having value in the eyes of God arose in Judaism and continued with Christianity, and that idea is foundational to the ideas of individual rights and equality under the law that is also a part of our founding.

In any case, it seems impossible that any nation such as the one our founders tried to create can exist with a population of godless barbarians.

m
m
  Anonymous
April 18, 2022 2:37 pm

It’s always fun when the Jefenders come out tying themselves in knots with carefully selected Relativism.
 

seems superior

But even then, why not convert from Judaism to Christianity?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
April 18, 2022 8:34 pm

Convert if you want to, at least in America and other liberal nations that protect religious liberty. Or remain a Jew. Or convert to Judaism or Islam.

On a relative scale of 0-10 with 0 being the least, your post rates a relative score of 0.

m
m
  Anonymous
April 19, 2022 4:01 am

Wow, you really shredded my arguments! I feel so small now…

ran t 7
ran t 7
  m
April 19, 2022 11:15 am

“why not convert from Judaism to Christianity?”

because judaism is all about jews themselves as such – any other religion is a step down.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 18, 2022 6:23 pm

My understanding is that you are way over-simplifying the deeper theology and even meanings of the Gospels.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 18, 2022 8:36 pm

Well then, go ahead and explain the deeper meanings, Thanks. Can you explain the deeper meanings simply? Thanks again.

flash
flash
  m
April 18, 2022 9:04 pm

Judaism came after Christianity. Look it up.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  m
April 18, 2022 9:21 pm

Among other differences, Judaism is eastern and Christianity is Greco Roman, which is western. They are completely different thought processes.

m
m
  Vigilant
April 19, 2022 7:27 am

{double facepalm}
Whatever. Now compare the completely different thought processes.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 18, 2022 12:53 pm

Putz

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 18, 2022 7:51 pm

Hey cool it with the ANTI-SEMITISM™ there Stuck!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 18, 2022 8:39 pm

Stuck just loves talking as if he’s anti-Semitic in order to stir things up. He actually loves Jews and is the child of Orthodox parents.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Anonymous
April 18, 2022 8:46 pm

They are not even Semites. Quit while you’re behind.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 18, 2022 8:37 pm

Your talking to The Stuck One, right?

Mustang
Mustang
April 18, 2022 12:59 pm

Whoever is the author of the introduction to this article is so wrong it takes my breath away.
The founding of America and it’s Constitution was based on the Judeo-Christian Values found in the Old & New Testaments of The Holy Bible.
You said that you didn’t want anybody to “foist” those Judeo-Christian Values on you. Does that mean you want all laws against Murder, Rape, Bestiality, Polygamy, Incest, Stealing, Fraud, etc. to be eliminated because they come from Judeo-Christian Values???
American was a Judeo-Christian Nation in the past because a vast number of its Citizens believed in and lived by those Values. Most of America’s Citizens no longer believe in or live by those Judeo-Christian Values because of the never-ending assult on those Values by the Radical Left for the last 100 years.
America is no longer the great Country that it once was.
America is no longer the Country I grew up in.
America is no longer worth defending.

m
m
  Mustang
April 18, 2022 1:03 pm

I wasn’t aware the Pursuit of Happiness was suggested in the Bible.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
April 18, 2022 8:47 pm

How about ideas about private property? I know charity was encouraged by Jesus, so, trying to think rationally, I think that in order to help others thru charity, you must first possess the means to do so.

In the same line, the idea that owning “too much” will inhibit your entry into Heaven implies a right of ownership.

There was some debate at the founding whether it should be the Rights of Life Liberty and Property, or the Pursuit of happiness… I am with those who argued for a Right of Property. Certainly any government that will take you property, or allow it to be taken by others won’t contribute to General Happiness.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Anonymous
April 18, 2022 9:30 pm

That’s exactly right, it was Life, Liberty, and Property originally until it was changed at the last minute. The defense of ownership of private property is vitally important to freedom.

m
m
  Anonymous
April 19, 2022 7:21 am

Charity!
Now that is funny on multiple levels.

For starters, think long and hard about just the title of this book:
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What thoughts do you come up with?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
April 18, 2022 8:49 pm

Because there were almost no Buddhists here at the time, and none at all involved in the creation of America?

ran t 7
ran t 7
  Mustang
April 18, 2022 2:08 pm

“Judeo-Christian Values”

there’s no such thing as “judeo-christian”.

Rusty Shackleford
Rusty Shackleford
  ran t 7
April 18, 2022 3:43 pm

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Ken31
Ken31
  ran t 7
April 18, 2022 6:26 pm

It is like saying black-white, up-down, or even good-evil. How can anyone read the Gospels for themselves and not understand that Christ was the refutation of Babylonian Talmudism called Judaism today? There can be no peace, because they will not repent from their wicked ways.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Mustang
April 18, 2022 5:40 pm

Sorry Musty.. There is no such thing as Judeo-Christian and never was. That is an Edomite/Kenite construct/hoax to blur the lines and muddy the waters surrounding “Their” insinuation into the tribe of Judah and total takeover of the Mosaic Religion during and after the exile and return and down through the act of them and not the Judeans killing The Christ, clear through to today when they are finally announcing who they really are.
Ten years ago they still would have lauded you for so greatly assisting in the furtherment of (The Greatest Identity Theft Ever).

Secondly, when you make it an either or, in your face slur with statements like “does that mean you want all laws against Rape, Beastiality, etc. eliminated” you automatically disqualify yourself as anything more than a disciple of Saul Alinsky.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Fleabaggs
April 18, 2022 5:46 pm

THE GREATEST IDENTITY THEFT IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD

https://emahiser.christogenea.org/greatest-identity-theft-history-world

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mustang
April 18, 2022 8:40 pm

If you want to have private sex with animals, and don’t harm them, I don’t see why you need to be stoned to death…

Ken31
Ken31
  Anonymous
April 18, 2022 9:48 pm

Given modern agriculture, this does not surprise me.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mustang
April 18, 2022 9:26 pm

The found documents stem from the Christian interpretation of both the old and new testaments, not according to any Jewish interpretation, which would have given us a society based on the Talmud instead.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Vigilant
April 18, 2022 9:27 pm

oops, founding documents

Karen
Karen
  Mustang
April 19, 2022 2:57 pm

Mustang, IN these days of apostasy, I beg you to look into these things for yourself. We are bombarded with narratives that TPTB want us to believe, and this is certainly one of those narratives, professing Christianity being hardly immune. There is no such thing as Judeo-Christian Values. In fact, I believe it to play a great part in the great deception in the last of days.

Judaism and Christianity are diametrically opposed to one other. Christ said that the scribes and Pharisees made the scriptures of no effect by their “traditions of men” so that they make a proselyte even more the child of Hell than themselves. Why is that? It’s because Judaism is not based on Mosaic Law from the Torah, but on the Talmud, the written traditions of men. Why did Christ tell them they were “of their father the Devil”? And why did John say there were those who “say they are Jews but are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan”?

The United States was founded on Freemasonry, not Christianity. Our forefathers were Deists, not Christians. Freemasonry is based on Judaism and occult Kabbalah, hence our Egyptian obelisk monuments and building rotundas.

An excellent resource to study what Judaism teaches – those very things you mentioned!
http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/
Scroll down and particularly don’t miss Chapter 5.

realestatepup
realestatepup
April 18, 2022 1:12 pm

The Old Testament was considered “finished” once Jesus arrived, grew into a man, and was tortured and killed as a propitiatory sacrifice.

Gone was the old Jewish sacrificial system of penitent jews needing intervention from a Sadducee or Pharisee to kill a goat or a pigeon on their behalf to atone for sins.

Also, Jesus opened the door to ALL peoples, not just the “chosen” race.

Of course, over the centuries, various kings and emperors have allowed pagan tribes to incorporate their teachings and beliefs into most specifically Catholicism.

Please, by all means tell me how a rabbit and eggs has anything to do with Jesus’ resurrection. I’ll wait……

Catholicism still uses the old Priest class to intercede on behalf of the penitent.
Jesus was pretty specific when he said “Come unto ME”. He said zero about go sit in a dark box once a week and talk to some creepy dude in a black cassock about all the wrong shit you did.

There is also no celibacy requirement as well. That is all pagan/druidic nonsense.
Paul was pretty clear on marriage as something holy and good. The single life was sure to get you in trouble pretty quick. I think we can agree the celibacy requirement in the Catholic church has led to some horrible shit happening.

Catholicism is very reflective of any other religion that has multiple ‘gods’. Sure, the Catholics call them Saint-this-or-that, but in the end, really is it any different than praying to Shiva or Bebu or any other one of the pantheon?

Yes, Yawheh of the Old Testament was mad A LOT. But. If you believe his chosen people had a more direct contact with God and yet still acted like a bunch of jackasses then what do you expect?
I am quite sure Moses was at the end of his proverbial rope when he came down from Mt. Sinai and those idiots were dancing around a golden calf statue.

And really, how many warnings did Pharoh need? Was he a distant ancestor of the Two Minute Egg I wonder….

In any case, Jesus’ teachings were all about love, acceptance, faith, good works, charity, and kindness. Not war, destruction, hate, and evil.

The thirst for death and destruction, not just of the body, but of freedom, dignity, kindness, love, gentleness, children, innocence, these things do not come from Jesus.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  realestatepup
April 18, 2022 2:17 pm

“I think we can agree the celibacy requirement in the Catholic church has led to some horrible shit happening.”

Well … rabbis can marry — even orthodox rabbis — so how do you explain the claims of buggery by their male students — widespread claims, I might add, that often end with the offender leaving the US and heading to israel to avoid prosecution?

A couple years ago I came across an article in which one NYC rabbi claimed that upwards of 60% of the orthodox yeshiva students had been buggered … hardly just a Catholic thing — but the seemingly more monolithic Catholic Church makes a much more easy target for plaintiff lawyers … and the clergy do not escape prosecution just by returning to Rome …

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Anthony Aaron
April 18, 2022 2:30 pm

A few years ago I came across the stats. Catholic priests contrary to popular view are the least likely to molest congregation members with Rabbis being the most likely, as high as 25% being offenders. Public school teachers put them all to shame with NAMBLA counting large percentages of school psychiatrists among its members.
All clergy will tell you they are continuously propositioned by ladies in the congregation.
People seem to forget the ALL part in we are ALL sinners.

realestatepup
realestatepup
  Anthony Aaron
April 20, 2022 9:09 am

I totally agree. I grew up as a JW (total cult) and there is and was stories of rampant sexual abuse.
It matters not the organization, it’s the lack of oversight and continuing coverups that are and always will be the problem.
My point was that celibacy is NOT a Christian teaching and will lead to problems of one kind or another. And counseling soon-to-be-wed couples by a single priest seems ridiculous.

AKJohn
AKJohn
  realestatepup
April 18, 2022 2:40 pm

Well said. To expand, Yawheh is not the creator God we worship in Christianity. But the tribal deity who taught an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. Christ said there is a better way which you already mentioned.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  AKJohn
April 18, 2022 3:42 pm

We’ve been TOLD by the jews who wrote the OT that that’s what God taught … nowhere else is there any other religion or spiritual path that puts forth such an outrageous vision of God … and, for some insane reason, folks have accepted their vision of God (likely just a reflection of themselves — the version of God that they created out of their own evil and hatred) … the OT is the biggest post-hypnotic suggestion of all time …

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anthony Aaron
April 18, 2022 6:32 pm

Modern Jews have nothing to do with what is in the OT. It is not even included in their religion except for a few books they consider historical, but unimportant spiritually. That religion was Hebraism and they all converted to Christianity along with some of the Edomites called Pharisees, Scribes, Sadducees, and other names in the Gospel that are now called Jews.

Remember that those who did not accept Jesus were genocided and their temple demolished. The survivors fled to spread their Satanic world view and are headquartered in the Central Banks and Globalist institutions to this day.

The lost Tribe of Israel is genetical Europa -the descendants of Isaiah the Prophet.

bug
bug
  AKJohn
April 18, 2022 7:43 pm

It is interesting how people think “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth” is sooo barbaric, when in fact, it is just the opposite. It is a restraint upon revenge for insults or injuries. If someone is harmed, then the appropriate punishment should be proportional. A death for a death, rather than kill-the-whole-village-rape-everyone-and-salt-the-earth for a death.

An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth would be a welcome rule in the ghetto, where people are often shot and killed for “disrespect.” Were that rule adopted and followed, Chuckie Cheese would be a much less violent place.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  realestatepup
April 18, 2022 6:27 pm

No this is bullshit. Modern Judaism and the Hebrewism of the OT are not even in the same theological lineage, because they branched before Christianity.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
April 18, 2022 1:13 pm

People like this author want to pretend that only Christianity or Judaism “foists” moral precepts upon people. Balderdash. First, they rarely have the cajones to harass the Muslims because the Muslims don’t tolerate “tolerance”. Second, natural law itself is sufficient to reveal general moral truths. As Romans 1, 19-20 says

“For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse.”

When you look at what a broken-down hulk the US has become (morally) with abortion, gay marriage, kids trying to switch sexes, etc. Most of that has been prohibited even in atheistic (or non-theistic) societies. China hasn’t traditionally had a favorable view of homosexuality, for example. That’s because it’s contrary to natural law. In other words, it’s “intrinsically disordered” as the Catholic Church officially puts it.

Jimbo
Jimbo
April 18, 2022 1:26 pm

Here is the background on the POS who wrote this drivel……..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shalom_Auslander

It’s not God that brings evil. God gives man the freedom to choose. Rejecting God brings evil. (((Auslander))) is just an agent of evil, as is the NYT.

m
m
  Jimbo
April 18, 2022 1:29 pm

We’re so lucky wikipedia hasn’t become an agent of evil   /sarc

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Jimbo
April 18, 2022 1:31 pm

“In this time of war and violence, of oppression and suffering, I propose we pass over something else: God.”

Pretty sure he would take the same position at any time.

He’s an Auslander alright.

Ken31
Ken31
  Jimbo
April 18, 2022 6:41 pm

Amen. This is what took me too long to learn. The Gospels are both practical and miraculous, and I like my EOB NT that shows me all possible translations and references back to the OT so I can find the context easier.

Rejecting God brings hell here and now, no man who casts aside himself for God can possibly suffer to the same extent, and his reward is great. It is only through Jesus I that I can not be bitter about all of the stumbling blocks because people before me didn’t listen.

The Boogie Man
The Boogie Man
April 18, 2022 2:02 pm

Stucky, I ain’t taking the bait on this one. -No comment!

ran t 7
ran t 7
April 18, 2022 2:02 pm

“I also have wondered if humanity would be better off without this God as depicted in the Old Testament.”

“god” usually winds up looking like the people who write about him.

m
m
  ran t 7
April 18, 2022 2:49 pm

“god” usually winds up looking like the people who write about him.

Unless they detected/realized concepts that confer truth beyond their writing.

Ken31
Ken31
  m
April 18, 2022 7:13 pm

I always thought that was metaphysical bullshit until I didn’t. I think we all get at least slightly different messages, because we are all different and our message needs to be slightly different. When I find myself appealing to God, sometimes he answers, but if He doesn’t, His Righthand Man does, and he tells me how I asked the question wrong, or if it was a legitimate question to begin with.

He did say “ask and you shall receive.” My weak faith is at least strong enough to get the truth of that, and benefit from it. And so I try not to bee that seed that was cast upon the rocks or the roadside.

I don’t know what faith he expects from our generations, but for me, I choose to believe that I will exercise it, just as all practices must be practices, because there is no perfection and the mind wanders.

Ken31
Ken31
  ran t 7
April 18, 2022 7:02 pm

Amen to that. It is all a message of love. Love your children so that they may love their children and so on. They can only know what you teach them and example is the greatest instructor, divorced, feminized America. You sacrifice your children to Moloch and then there is much weeping and gnashing of teeth when they return full of evil.

AKJohn
AKJohn
April 18, 2022 2:24 pm

In his own way, Stucky stumbled upon a great truth. The God of the Old Testament, Jehovah, was never the creator God Christianity worships. Jehovah was the tribal deity and administrator of the Tribes of Israel. Though the creator God is mentioned in the Old Testament. The masses were taught to worship the tribal deity, Jehovah.

AKJohn
AKJohn
  AKJohn
April 18, 2022 3:08 pm

When my brother was in the hospital being operated on and sedated, he had this dream. He met Jehovah, and Jehovah said to him. You were not that bad, but you were not that good either, we’re undecided about you. But were giving you another chance. Bro says to me after this dream. There is not one God but two. The God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament. I said yes, I know Jehovah the administrator and of course the Real Creator God. He was very surprised I knew this. This dream he had shows what? Jehovah is not the creator, but administer of Judgement, Karma. Of course my brother awoke and decided what . He better make sure he is on the side of goodness.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  AKJohn
April 18, 2022 7:20 pm

Wow that is about like what would happen to history if you wanted to make it into a scramble.

Melty
Melty
April 18, 2022 2:32 pm

I was pondering a similar thought yesterday about the so called Judeo Christian thing. Over the years I start seeing the self loathing of many of the Jews that have been influential in creating pure hell on earth. One of the biggest pieces of shit that ever walked the earth was Marx. And yet here we are 150+ years later listening to people espouse the same shit.

Then I pondered the Israel thing as to why we are so married to them. Then put this into a context of them forcing the entire country to be shit shotted. It was at this point that I cast off this Judeo-Christian precept. Christians need to divorce themselves from the fact that we are to stand beside them in all circumstances. And for the life of me I can’t quite understand fully if Jew is a religion, race or what. I fail to see what Christians have in common with Jews.

AKJohn
AKJohn
  Melty
April 18, 2022 2:47 pm

Well said. In regard to your last sentence. Many people have in their hearts, no matter what the religion, the universal concept of the creator God being the source of all things good.

Gayle
Gayle
  Melty
April 18, 2022 9:26 pm

We are intertwined with the Jews because Jesus was a Jew who quoted the OT. Thus, Christianity claims a Judeo-Christian heritage.

To me, this does not mean that the nation of Israel, in either a political or spiritual context, deserves favored treatment from USA. I don’t understand sincere Evangelical Christians’ love affair with Israel beyond its interest as the geographical source for Bible events, or beyond the interest they would have in any other unbelieving people group.

Israel has its own path in history and eschatology, separate from the Gentiles, Believers or not. To expect Christians to be obligated to God’s Chosen People is not found in the NT. Jesus didn’t seem too impressed with their brightest and best.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Gayle
April 18, 2022 10:08 pm

Sorry Gayle, Jesus was not a Jew.

What if Jesus were descended from the Israelite tribe of Judah, as the Scripture says that He is? Well, of course He is, because the Scriptures do not lie. But what if the people known as Jews today were NOT of the tribe of Judah? Nor even of Benjamin or Levi? Then how could Jesus possibly be a Jew? The answer is easy, Jesus is not a Jew because the people known as Jews today are not of Judah. The Bible itself tells us this.

https://christogenea.org/podcasts/exactly-why-jesus-christ-not-jew

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Melty
April 18, 2022 9:50 pm

The term Judeo-Christian was created and pushed in order to garner support for the political Zionists. Jewish refers to a political religious system. Descendants of Judah call themselves Yahudi (no letter J in any alphabet before the 16th century) from the name Yahudah.

i forget
i forget
April 18, 2022 2:47 pm

Twain, yes. “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause & reflect.” And of course Twain’s War Prayer.

Not many would take issue or find fault with the characterization that the social humanimal herd has cowboys, vaqueros, shepherds, working for owners, that move the herd from pasture to feedlot to abbatoir & that this has always been the case since at least the agrarian revo-devolution.

The j-c thing (& the intimately intertwined i bit, as well) can & should be viewed through that magnifying prism, too.

When I was in the South, especially amongst the Baptists, especially amongst the born again ones, Paul got a lot of air time. Much was made of Paul’s conversion from jewish murderer of Christians to Christian. God’s grace turned him around & all that.

Interesting & sensible, possibly viable with a lot of luck & friends in high places ~ the old Hellenist empire-boss/hip of state sinking & the rats abandoning it for the new monotheist-in-triplicate empire boss/hip of state ~ new angle to me was laid out in this docu. That Paul was a seller of insurance to the Christians in an effort to buy insurance for the jews, who seemed to be well along the path to Mencken’s Graveyard of the Gods. In short, Paul sold the checkers Christians & bill of effulgent goods in chess moves designed to keep the jewish sect going.

That “j-c” makes sense to me. (And “c” is the first letter in “cannon fodder.” Lots of those Baptists were hellbent to get the apocalypse on & said jews & Israel were key to unlocking that box of pandora’s chocolates.)

Or like m-b, for master-blaster, in that mad max flick.

Symbiotic parasitism.

Oceanic j-c has always been at war with Eurasian Islam in most of the 84’s that came before 19, & has managed to continue into the 20’s. That despite fact that the ones that run the j-c’s could have obliterated the I’s long ago. Instead, the I’s are being imported into the j-c lands.

War, what is it good for? You know. And “what a difference” a vowel makes: worship-warship.

m
m
April 18, 2022 3:30 pm

Oh. It took me a while to get it.

bob in apopka
bob in apopka
April 18, 2022 3:56 pm

I have not a single complaint about the big guy. The old man has granted my every wish as long as that wish is aligned with his plans for me. I know how it sounds. I’m not religious at all, I don’t go to church, read the bible, or pray. I am a man who has every thing I ever wanted out of life and so very much more than I deserve that only divine intervention can explain my current life style. ( Helps bunches if you know what it is you want out of life and are willing to work toward those goals. )

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
April 18, 2022 5:17 pm

his last paragraph (well second to last as he ends with a one word paragraph) sounds like something a Christian would say. He’s mixed up, so it seems. As are most of the “chosen” people.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
April 18, 2022 5:39 pm

Somebody needs to read up on Jewish history (Old Testament) and learn that the Jewish Kings who did not ask for God’s help did not do too well and cost their people their freedom on many occasions.

Ottomatik.
Ottomatik.
April 18, 2022 8:04 pm

Im confused…can the New Testament stand on its own?
Well then…

Walt
Walt
April 18, 2022 11:26 pm

Judaism, which in its modern iteration is little more than a crime syndicate, is even less of a religion than Islam, which is a political philosophy of similarly questionable origins. Both merely masquerade as religion.
Should you disagree, please explain how one can be (as in fact a great many are), an athiest jew?

As for ‘Judeo-Christian’, well that’s just silly, when one considers one of their tenets is ‘The best of the goy (non jews / Christians) must be killed.’ Abhodah Zarah (26b, Tosephoth).

The Talmud Unmasked – The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians By Rev. I. B. Pranaitis:

https://ia800909.us.archive.org/31/items/pdfy-QOmP0jzsI3bcDGT6/The%20Talmud%20Unmasked%20%5BThe%20Secret%20Rabbinical%20Teachings%20Concerning%20Christians%5D.pdf

sojourner
sojourner
April 19, 2022 3:37 pm

Let he or she each be accountable for his or her’s actions and let the Supreme Entity sort things out? says the NT in places. Group “chastisement” does it or has it ever worked in the history of mankind? All mankind suffers from some sort of delusion self made or not. Not one of his male or female child or elder has a MONOPOLY on any weakness or strength.
If your “religion” allows for doing evil i.e. willful murder to others (neighbors) should it even be called “religion”?
Me personally go by the definition of “religion” by the epistle of james (half-brother of the vessel Christ inhabited)
That definition basically condemns ALL “religions” as there is not one man alive today un spotted from cradle to grave in righteousness to the Supreme Entity.
We exist because of some reason, we exist and are part of some sort of plan greater than ourselves and we are all mostly ignorant of.
We as mankind either go back to the jungle which would be horrible, or we try to forget our collective evil past. As a few races who share a planet of dirt, a cosmos of dirt. So since all matter that is seen in this current universe is dirt in different refinements. Is it not time to focus self on energies of peace, love, help?
As each race Black,Brown,White,Yellow as observed have different talents and different weaknesses. Let us move past this evil warlike past we all share? There will always be poor,rich,lame, people who want to stay simple and people who want to advance to the stars (if the stars are as the scientists claim). Nature allows for these separations.
I personally believe there is a separation of mankind happening, those who want to truly live in peace and those who would rather want “dogma” and “holier than thou” types in all “religions”

m
m
  sojourner
April 21, 2022 7:13 am

You seem to assume that complete disbelief/nihilism/irreligion is somehow automatically peaceful.

That’s one of the biggest misjudgements you can make.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 20, 2022 8:16 am

I have heard the argument made that Christianity was invented as controlled opposition for Zionism.