QOTD: Who got us in to this mess? Boomers or Millennials?

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We are in a Fourth Turning and everything in our country is a mess. Who got us in to this mess? Boomers or Millennials?

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ran t 7
ran t 7
May 25, 2022 12:39 pm

“Who got us in to this mess?”

the owners of the fed.

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property – until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” thomas jefferson

notice who owns the fed.

Ghost
Ghost
  ran t 7
May 25, 2022 1:37 pm

Ah… perhaps you will get my reference to Jekyll Island.

ran t 7
ran t 7
  Ghost
May 25, 2022 2:04 pm

yes.

it’s amazing how the ones behind all this just carry on destroying everything around them in every generation, not even hiding it, while when you show people what’s going on their eyes just glaze over. maybe these guys _are_ chosen ….

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Ghost
May 25, 2022 7:03 pm

“Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: “Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.” Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: “Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Who has tirelessly worked to remove God?
Answer that and find the culprit.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Colorado Artist
May 26, 2022 12:28 am

The Jews.

ran t 7
ran t 7
  Anonymous
May 26, 2022 11:28 am

“who has tirelessly worked to remove god?”

“the jews”

not exactly. in judaism, their millenium/heaven/religious goal is to conquer the world and enslave everyone else to themselves while they themselves enjoy a rich material lifestyle – in short, they establish themselves as god to everyone else. the only valid way you can serve god in any manner is to serve them – that’s what you were created to be, their slaves. so they’re trying, not to remove god per se, but to impose themselves as god to you.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ran t 7
May 25, 2022 2:13 pm

Spot on. Those who control the institutions are the only ones with enough reach to effectuate such a comprehensive collapse. But it extends beyond financial institutions. Politics, law, education, military, organized religion, medicine, whole business sectors…you name it.

While Boomers didn’t create many of these institutions, they’ve certainly been in charge of their death by suicide.

Fedup
Fedup
  ran t 7
May 25, 2022 4:07 pm

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Eddy O
Eddy O
May 25, 2022 12:40 pm

Liberals, progressives, leftist elites, socialists and communists. Get rid of them and reclaim the country.

GNL
GNL
  Eddy O
May 25, 2022 1:34 pm

I believe you listed the tools.

ran t 7
ran t 7
  GNL
May 25, 2022 2:00 pm

spot on. as intended, the tools get all the attention and blame, while the ones behind the tools continue to pose as oppressed and innocent victims while looking for more tools.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ran t 7
May 26, 2022 12:29 am

The Jews.

ATarese
ATarese
  Eddy O
May 26, 2022 10:51 am

It was quite a shock later in life to realize that in the ‘face value’ story of WWII Hitler was actually right to try to eradicate the vermin of humanity. Then came shock #2 that the vermin themselves nurtured, installed and funded Hitler themselves to set up this perpetual victimhood lie to set up their long range range plans.

Fact – there were less than 600k jews in Germany at the start of WWII. I recently found out that those piles of bodies pics were from Stalin’s death camps.

Point is, this QOTD is a naive moot point, today’s downfall was seeded MUCH earlier.

ran t 7
ran t 7
  ATarese
May 26, 2022 4:53 pm

“themselves nurtured, installed and funded Hitler themselves”

when israel was crushed for the third time in 210(?)ad and the romans/byzantines drove the jews out of palestine permanently, judaism picked up the notion that jews would not return to the land of israel until the messiah returned and called them back. judaism retained this idea until the 1800’s, when growing secularization of europe allowed jews to escape their tyrannical monoculture and move into the larger society. but these “secular” jews still retained a vision of their superiority over everyone else and they still desired a homeland for their nation (with them as the founding fathers and thus in control of it) – “be your own messiah”. this resulted in zionism. however the vast majority of jews continued to reject any return to israel until the messiah returned. so the zionists, controlling and influencing national governments and through any other means available including german national socialism, put pressure on jews to 1) force them out of europe 2) while being rejected from entering any other country except the british territory of palestine. most jews, finding no escape from growing european nationalism except to the heretical “israel”, simply decided not to leave.

Dan
Dan
May 25, 2022 12:45 pm

Absolutely Boomers and their parents, the so-called “greatest generation”. We could go all the way back to Lincoln or Woodrow Wilson, but FDR’s programs really were the beginning of the end. Johnson’s “Great Society” boondoggles, Vietnam, Nixon’s taking us off what remained of the gold standard.

Try explaining to the later generations why they can’t afford a house and nice lifestyle on a single earner’s income. The real reason, of course, is that they’re paying the bills for the things we acquired and put on a pay-later plan through inflation.

ran t 7
ran t 7
  Dan
May 25, 2022 12:52 pm

sure. but it was the fed that drove that loss of the gold standard, that “pay later” plan, etc.

Boogieman
Boogieman
  Dan
May 25, 2022 5:28 pm

You have a point, but if you wear a hat no one will see it. The whole thing is just a ploy to pit one generation against the other. Your average shmuck had nothing to do with the old gold standard or petro dollars or Vietnam or what have you any more than this generation brought us the , left wing Marxist, the BLM, Antifa or what have you. It’s manipulation of the masses.
Pay no attention to my right hand focus your attention to my left hand. What do they call it, sleight of hand? Our overlords are great at it.

Dan
Dan
  Boogieman
May 26, 2022 12:27 pm

But everybody was willing to go along with it. We were bought. Farmers got paid to not grow crops. We don’t have to worry about Grandma because she’s got medicare and social security. No-qualifying FHA loans means getting a house way bigger than we can reasonably afford. Of course these costs all got passed on. I watched houses go from the 20ks to the 80ks in a couple of years in the 1980s. How many people do you know that have zero debt? We’re not the same people that this country started with.

Fielding Mellish
Fielding Mellish
May 25, 2022 1:01 pm

People did…there is enough blame to go around. But the people who are the most to blame are the rich and powerful…whatever generation they happen to be from.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Fielding Mellish
May 25, 2022 2:20 pm

Good point, but what could the rest of us ever do? For us it’s play the game (and hedge), or don’t play the game.

Maybe we should have all left for Galt’s Gulch a lot sooner.

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Anonymous
May 26, 2022 5:32 am

But first turned the Money Changers tables over and jammed the legs up their asses. We don’t need no stinking central bank owned by no Rothschilds ZOG.

zappalives
zappalives
May 25, 2022 1:14 pm

Servile-low IQ sheep jackoffs are in every demographic.
We are all to blame for not making politicians fear us.
They laugh at us for not rising up and taking care of business.

Norman Franklin
Norman Franklin
May 25, 2022 1:29 pm

Gen X slips under the radar once again

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Norman Franklin
May 25, 2022 1:48 pm

Yup. My generation. The one that’s done fuck-all to stop bad things or create good things, and which is constantly pointing its fingers at the generations in front and behind.

Cricket
Cricket
  Anonymous
May 25, 2022 2:10 pm

We spent our childhoods being told the USSR was going to nuke us at any moment, the world was about to run out of oil, and global cooling, killer bees and AIDS were going to kill us all as well as many other ways the universe was out to get us. We saw our parents get fired from long held jobs in the name of cheap labour and stuff from abroad. We accepted these things because we had no power to change it and kept putting one foot in front of the other. We learned to live in the world that is, not what we wished it to be.

Every generation blames the one before…

Crawfisher
Crawfisher
  Cricket
May 25, 2022 8:24 pm

Well said and on point.
Thanks

My only thought to add, I’m not sure what generation this started, but the culture of ‘I got mine FU’ led us to where we are today.

GNL
GNL
May 25, 2022 1:33 pm

The federal reserve, corporations and the wealthy.

Ghost
Ghost
May 25, 2022 1:36 pm

Neither.

It was, and is, the “Silent Generation” who’ve inherited what was created on Jekyll Island, gave birth to and poorly raised the Boomers and the Gen Z’ers during what was astonishing (in retrospect) economic prosperity post-war, turning over the education of their young to a public education system designed by communists and promoted by liberals, and they now have their miserly eyes and bony fingers in whatever might be left for posterity.

These bastards want to take it ALL with them and if they cannot? They will destroy it all.

What Is The Silent Generation: The 1920s-1940s Kids

That’s my opinion and I have very good reasons for it.

AJ
AJ
  Ghost
May 25, 2022 1:49 pm

X at least 100

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Ghost
May 25, 2022 2:21 pm

The younger generations, Gen X, Millenials, Z’s, whatever are more amenable to censorship, putting almost no value on free speech. So they’re making it worse thought control.

Ghost
Ghost
  Iska Waran
May 25, 2022 2:49 pm

I agree they make it worse by playing the victim card without cease, but they didn’t start this mess.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
May 25, 2022 3:16 pm

Some among the younger generations parroting ‘alternative facts’ is a symptom of what you might call ‘effective information operations’ (i.e. holistic propaganda). This process includes stripping away cultural or moral norms that make you resilient to exploitation.

Amenability to censorship is a by-product of individuals conditioned to NOT think critically.

Not sure how much of this was by design though. My own experience with self-interested, maleficent overlords teaches me that they’re often too self-interested to be very competent at planning.

AKJohn
AKJohn
May 25, 2022 1:51 pm

Age has nothing to do with it. It’s the global Banksters brainwashing the masses.

Daddy Joe
Daddy Joe
May 25, 2022 1:56 pm

Let’s not fall for such trick questions. It is TPTB and their chaos creators that attempt to drive wedges and create divisions among us. There are plenty of power mongers and plenty of sheep who enable them in every generation.

BL
BL
May 25, 2022 2:02 pm

Who got Russia into the mess they were in 100 years ago, who got China into the mess they are still in? The eons old shit stirrers known as (((THEM))).

Rob, generational warfare is a tool in the toolbox for (((THEM))).

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BL
May 25, 2022 2:35 pm

History is cyclical.

The opportunity to exert influence on a country and crush it physically, morally, spiritually, etc only surfaces once in a century. And the timing is predictable based on–you guessed it–generational cycles.

Paying attention to the patterns your enemy is sure to exploit is different than falling for the ‘divide and conquer’ tactic.

Mista Ed - Shape Shifta
Mista Ed - Shape Shifta
May 25, 2022 2:04 pm

Trick question, a false choice to be specific. It was psychopaths all along. They have always been a part of humanity (though not fully human) and probably always will be with us.

Ghost
Ghost
May 25, 2022 2:50 pm

If EC were here he might suggest these folks are taking turns being Pivot Man on the Circular Firing Squad.

I place the blame where it belongs: the parents.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
May 25, 2022 3:25 pm

We would have to go back more than 100 years when the people allowed the government to create the fed, implement the income tax and do away with State appointment of senators. Every generation since has let the government continue to operate without limits.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
May 25, 2022 3:26 pm

How did we get here? Easy. Human nature.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
May 25, 2022 3:32 pm

Pride
Greed
Wrath
Lust
Envy
Gluttony
Sloth

Tell me how each of these haven’t destroyed our country. And tell me which generation is not guilty of any of these.

**And props to GNL for consistently recognizing GREED as a driving force of destruction.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Abigail Adams
May 25, 2022 5:40 pm

Abigail, Thanks for your quick review of the seven deadlies. By our nature we all have a touch of these, and it’s only by God’s grace and sanctification that we overcome and develop depth of character.

Jams And Glams
Jams And Glams
May 25, 2022 3:33 pm

It’s not a “who” that got us into the current mess….it’s the “what”….the “who” are the one’s that emplaced the “what”.

And the “what” is:

6 or 7, fully functional at this point, Planks of the Communist Manifesto.

People keep wondering what the “plan” to fight back is. Everyone is looking for a rallying point.

I have one. It’s simple. Destroy U.S. Communism. We are all communists under the current system, like it or not.

ALL CURRENT PROBLEMS stem from practicing, defacto or otherwise, multiple Planks of Communism.

Who put them in place and when is irrelvant now.

The ONLY thing that matters at this point and the ONLY plan with a solid chance of working (beyond creating a “Rebel Alliance” and challenging the Empire at great expense) is to methodically attack and destroy the active Planks.

Importantly, the Planks must be attacked in the right order to achieve the highest chance of success.

Plank 5 MUST be destroyed FIRST. So, The Fed and the “law” that allows it to exist. That must be attacked like a Fabian Socialist attacks Individualism: RELENTLESSY until completely destroyed, infiltrated or castrated.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

Logically, destroying Plank 5 would be followed by attacking the next strongest Plank with regards to detriment to the People of the United States. I believe that is Plank 10, although Planks 1 and 2 are intertwined with Plank 10 and it could be argued that they be attacked simultaneously or, even that Plank 1 or 2 is destroyed first.

10. Free education for all children in government schools and abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form – combination of education with industrial production, etc.

1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

Destory these 4 Planks that are fully functional in these once great United States of America, and the others will fall by themselves.

Up and Until We The People take measures to DESTROY the practice of these 4 Planks that are fully functional in these once great United States of America, we will suffer the consequences of practicing communism.

The ONLY thing that matters at the moment is to identify, challenge and destroy the Communist Planks we are all a part of.

kfg
kfg
May 25, 2022 3:51 pm

Q: Who got us into this mess?
A: The old men of WWI

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
May 25, 2022 5:14 pm

Central Banking is the Root Of All Evil. Doesn’t matter which country.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
May 25, 2022 5:38 pm

When those who claimed to be fighting “fascism” came home and didn’t do anything about the fascism, socialism, and totalitarianism that had been openly embraced while they were in Europe and the Pacific, it set the foundation for everything we have seen since. Of course 1860 began the destruction, and nobody was truly allowed to learn anything from that mass slaughter event to protect the northern manufacturing base, the railroads, and the current version of American mercantilism, but 1913 sealed the deal. One can hardly put the blame on one generation, when every generation is to blame in their own way. The bigger problem is that when push comes to shove, ALL generations will cry out in disgust when folks finally start standing up and doing what has been needed for a very long time.

Dark Thoughts
Dark Thoughts
May 25, 2022 6:03 pm

Hey, don’t blame the Boomers.
The Greatest Generation kept its boot on our necks until we were well into our forties.
Remember the Fight for your right to party?

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 25, 2022 6:47 pm

A dude by the name of Frederick Winslow Taylor (author of The Principles of Scientific Management) from back around 1900. His ideas on efficiency successfully infected just about every organizational endeavor in the western world and turned them into some type of assembly line. The main purpose of human beings was to be cajoled into working as hard as possible as a cog in the machine of national efficiency.

The net result was he ideologically handed over the complete control of everything to a handful of experts, owners, and bosses with the assumption that they were most capable of leading any organization (be it business, school, gov’t, whatever). Systems no longer existed to serve humanity, humanity existed to serve the system as run by a handful of elites who Taylor envisioned as being the most qualified people.

“In the past the man has been first; in the future the system must be first. This in no sense, however, implies that great men are not needed. On the contrary, the first object of any good system must be that of developing first-class men; and under systematic management the best man rises to the top more certainly and more rapidly than ever before.” –Frederick W Taylor in the Intro to TPoSM.

Marky
Marky
May 25, 2022 7:51 pm

Your all wrong. It was pootin and those dam Russians.

Jimmy
Jimmy
May 25, 2022 7:56 pm

Im putting the blame squarely on Adam and Eve.

SGT SNUFFY
SGT SNUFFY
May 25, 2022 8:20 pm

AND NO IT WASN’T THE BOOMERS EITHER. WE KEPT THE COUNTRY RUNNING DAY AND NIGHT WHILE THE SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES TURNED OUT USELFUL IDIOT DRONES. SO DON’T BLAME US FOR THE WAY THE COUNTRY IS NOW.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 25, 2022 10:06 pm

As a boomer, I blame my grandfather and great grandfather for accepting”progress”tho I do understand the filtered information at/of the times….blame fixes nothing!

m
m
  Anonymous
May 26, 2022 2:13 am

+100
And isn’t it telling no other commenter above mentioned “belief in progress” before?

Instead the ones asserting to see behind the facade come up with clever variations of ‘it’s everybody’s/nobody’s fault.’

rhs jr
rhs jr
May 26, 2022 6:24 am

There is an ethnic group you can’t name without being openly attacked, that practices “divide and conquer”: using their vast resources, they pit young against old, poor against rich, Black against White, urban against rural, women against men, perverts against traditional, uneducated against educated, democrat against republican, everybody against Christians. They created communism, Critical Theory and Central Banking to destroy organizations and countries for their advantage. I am older than the Boomers; this shit started in my grandmother’s days; we were all born into the ZOG’s yoke and it has gotten worse every generation. “Lord, how long shall the wicked triumph? Ps94:3”. I think the Oligarchs are now digging the economic, military and social pit (massive welfare/warfare, Sanctions, lies, The Shots, QE, Frauds, censorship, a CBDC, etc) that will be their final mortal & Divine undoing. There are hooks are in the jaws of the King of the North and the King of the East.