In one swell foop … the US is hurtling back to the 1950s/60s in search of the nostalgia of a wholly fictional bygone era of pseudo-Christian rule. Double knee Levis, flat tops, crewcuts, penny loafers, bobby sox and a Charlie McCarthy ‘aw shucks’ kind of repressive anti-union, anti-civil rights, repressive police state the sawdust floored, snake handling, tent revival toadies feel most comfortable with. A Dan Quayle/Sarah Palin groovy kind of love that the American Taliban, our ‘rulers’ just love to force down the throats of others. Christianity isn’t about living an upright life. It’s forcing others to do so.
When the walls of Christianity begin to shake
When my life is in the balance, neither peace nor moral’s wake
Telling me my life is easy, debauched and thirdly heaven sent
My heart was never theirs but this Christianity will decide
I’m bruised and left alone, I get to feel so sad
People say that I was sad, people say that I was bad
People walking around with other feelings
They never want to contemplate
Reaching out for love but would never say
The churches have a network leading to the sect and to the soul
They levitate their founder’s faith up to a higher ground
While we stay home
I am a wicked man
I will not be this unsound
I was a wretched man before I filled this hole
When Jesus was upon his cross he never was this alone
They’re playing on our weaknesses and changing every sound
Who could find the right solution when they’re being drowned
Har de har the vacant talk can make you see their ways
Now check your faith and sleep with love the modern way
Now is that love, Christianity has nothing for me
This Jerusalemic holy ground is only fit for mealy mouths
Whose contamination breeds subordination
I’ve said too many times but who leads that kind of life
When my time comes around who will plead my innocence
And I resent that these things are true
And I resent that these things I do
And I resent that these things are true
And I resent that these things I do
First!
“When Jesus was upon his cross he never was this alone”
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Classic self pity.
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Another totally mis understood and mis representation of scripture. Jesus was quoting Psalms and David’s heart fulfilling prophecy in scripture demonstrating he is Messiah.
Perfectly normal behavior for ole eyeballs. He’s a Schofieldite.
To much diarrhea of the mouth by the confused and improperly taught or learned.
“John 19:28 “After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.”
This is speaking of (Psalms 69:21). Jesus had taken care of everything to be done. Now as He fulfills that Scripture, He says I thirst.
John 19:29 “Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a sponge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.”
The drink here is not to be confused with the wine “mixed with gall” offered to Him on the way to the cross (Matthew 27:34), intended to help deaden pain. The purpose of this drink was to prolong life and increase the torture and pain. It was a cheap, sour wine used by soldiers. The use of this word recalls (Psalms 69:21), where the same noun occurs in the LXX. Hyssop is a little plant that is ideal for sprinkling (See Exodus 12:22).
This, as we said before, was to fulfill the Scriptures. This vinegar possibly was here for the soldiers and those crucified to dull their senses.
In the next verse, we will see exactly why this was done here.
John 19:30 “When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.”
The verb here carries the idea of fulfilling one’s task and, in religious contexts, has the idea of fulfilling one’s religious obligations (see 17:4). The entire work of redemption had been brought to completion., The single Greek word here (translated “it is finished”), has been found in the papyri being placed on receipts for taxes meaning “paid in full” (see Col. 3:13-14).
“He gave up the ghost” signaled that Jesus “handed over” His spirit as an act of His will. No one took His life from Him, for He voluntarily and willingly gave it up (see 10:17-18).
What was finished? The work on the cross: six hours of suffering. The Scriptures had now been fulfilled. In (Luke 23:46), we learn that Jesus commanded His Spirit to leave His body and go to the Father.
At this moment, nothing was left on the cross, but the empty shell of a body.”
Huh?
Correct He was fulfilling prophecy.
He also was 100% without sin yet alone and completely alienated from His Father by choice by willingly taking on the sin of the world to literally save all by grace who would believe upon Him.
His Father God could not look upon Him as he literally suffered and died the death of a thief and a murderer on our behalf.
Bingo!!!
Isn’t it great. Jesus is King. Let the witch trials begin.
I’m OK with that. Really.
But, what do you do with that in real every day life … especially in terms of human governance? Do you want a Theocracy? A case can be made that that’s one of the very worst ways to govern. I’d rather live in Outer Mongolia.
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For some reason, unbeknown to me actually, I watched several religious shows last Sunday. One preacher after another claiming to know what God wants, and what God wants from ME, and how I should do this, that, or the other …. and if I don’t live the way Mr. Preacher Man says I should live ===> “WOE UNTO ME!!” for I live in the shadows of eternal hellfire.
Bunch of crap. But they did a nice job of triggering my inner demons. All of them want you to sow a seed ($$$), a Love Gift so they can spread their good news of servitude and enslavement. I sent them my middle finger.
A quick message to you down voters; blow me.
We don’t need a “theocracy”. We just to stop tolerating all manner of degeneracy just to prove we’re not a theocracy. Non-Christian nations throughout the world over millennia have objected to obvious degeneracy.
It’s natural law. “Ever since the creation of the world, His invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what He has made.” Romans 1:20.
Isn’t Jesus being King a theocracy ? Torquemada did nothing wrong.
His kingdom is not of this world. Torquemada was an evil fuque who is undoubtedly suffering some type of less than optimal judgement.
You don’t know shit about Torquemada or the Holy Inquisition …only what you learned in tard school. We don’t have a unified Christian church because of the power of mammon to influence the avarice driven stupid under the guise of Church reformation.
History. Get some or STFU.
Characters of the Inquisition
William Thomas Walsh
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=EA38F2EF47476809CB09789AFB19428B
Catholics built Christendom , thereby saving Christianity for posterity , only to have faggot Protestants damn near destroy it with their bullshit tolerance of fifth and heresy .
And then God saw that what He had saved from the brimstone had rebuilt Sodom and Gomorrah along with a Tower of Babble where strong delusion poured forth . God sent his Heroes to prepare a great leader for a Fourth renewal of mankind.
Who shall it be now?
Blow me.
Does the bible allow that?
Jesus and Paul and the Early Church Fathers might disagree with that.
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Were there no faggot Catholics?
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I don’t know why we can’t all get along. I simply try to live by what the Good Book says …….
Christendom = Western Civilization
“Becoming a modern society is about industrialization, urbanization, and rising levels of literacy, education, and wealth. The qualities that make a society Western, in contrast, are special: the classical legacy, Christianity, the separation of church and state, the rule of law, civil society.”
― Samuel P. Huntington
constantine changed the Sabbath to Sunday. Historical Fact.
smh….
Seriously, Seems to me all the faggots and pedos took refuge in the catholic priesthood to feast on young boys. Tens of thousands molested by Catholic priest. How can any person in godly conscience defend that. Sadly most faithful Catholics are in denial and refuse to even acknowledge this fact.
The Catholics openly defy the first 2 commandments praying to Mother Mary and and idols of wood an stone. I was only 10 years old when I recognized the church didn’t follow their own commandments.
Let some sunshine in , kettle.
“US Southern Baptist churches facing ‘apocalypse’ over sexual abuse scandal
A report named hundreds of church leaders accused or found guilty of abusing children and says survivors were mistreated”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/12/southern-baptist-church-sexual-abuse-scandal
Seems to me Catholics sacrificed everything; wealth, blood and life to bring Christianity and Rule of Law to the pagan world, only to have Protestants tear it all down in less than 500 years..
Satan’s attacks that which is a threat to him and the Catholic Church, spreading the Good News throughout the world via missions and education was a major threat. The Judaized Protestant faith, not so much.
The so called Church Reformation was a Money Changer i.e. Black Op too.
Real Church history. Get some.
Philip II: (1527-1598)
William Thomas Walsh
https://libgen.is//book/index.php?md5=1889B28539B7506D637C3D5605BFD2A0
Catholics did this. What have Protestants preserved for posterity?
Isabella of Spain
William Thomas Walsh
https://libgen.is//book/index.php?md5=D981C1329EC86A7E9BAE05E65AE3028B
The world and everything in it belongs to God. Do try to keep up.
Since you are in a mood already, what is your take on Bergoglio giving Piglosi, the abortion enthusiast and enabler communion at the Vatican this morning? Schism in the morning, Schism in the evening, Schism at supper time!
Bergoglio is not the Church. Christ is the church. No church has ever been saved . Only the individual.
Why don’t you just make up some shit to spew?
Pope Francis presided over the Mass — which was held to mark the feasts of St. Peter and St. Paul — though he did not administer Communion to Pelosi. Instead she received it from one of the many priests in the service. ( Anon witness said) smh…
https://nypost.com/2022/06/29/nancy-pelosi-receives-communion-at-vatican-despite-abortion-stance/
Blow me harder. Like he didn’t know she was there and like he wasn’t in charge as Celebrant and Pontiff.
God doesn’t talk to me.
Then you have no conscience, thus a huge problem.
which means you’ve lost your connection to God.
If you really want to learn about Christianity (I have my sincere doubts) read Paul.
Not sure I agree with anything in the above drivel. Wasn’t aware we were going back to the 1950/60’s or that anyone even wanted to go back. Stuck be smokin’ something strong today.
Then why do we have a Good Old Days thread every week? Why so many QOTDs about favorite 60s, 70’s, etc. songs, movies, or whatever? Why does nearly everyone long for what America used to be … which implies a desire to return to earlier times, the times of Leave It To Beaver. Why do we tell so many stories about when we were young, and of our parents and grandparents … very often in a remorseful tone, because all that stuff is no longer?
We love the America that once was!! It is you who be smokin’ wacky tobacky if you don’t see that.
Maybe some aspects of society were actually better then.
I preferred the 50’s and early 60’s to the shitehole in which we live now, without doubt.
In , the morning , we used to stand for Dixie along with the Star Spangled Banner . Now we stand for nothing and we call this progress.
And nobody thought did squat about doing it for both.
Flash- WHO would down the “Stars and Bars”??
A Buggerman.
I long for the 70’s. Not even the 80’s cut it.
I made the trip to the Amish village again this morning after my visit with the Veterans Administration psychiatric/psychological practictioner who prescribes me Cymbalta for both mood issues and back pain. Since it seems to help with the anxiety (and the voices) and definitely with the lumbar strain and sciatica, I check in twice a month with the VA and they send me medicine in the mail.
Yesterday, I got a call from the scheduler telling me they’d changed my provider, but the visit would be same place/same time in Farmington. The psych nurse introduced himself and proceeded to ask me in three different ways if I wanted to kill myself or was thinking about it. (Well, I wasn’t until now, I wanted to say, but I suspect he would NOT have laughed.) He then asked me if I were comfortable answering some new “relationship” questions. Out of curiosity, I said, “Well, you ask and I’ll tell you if I am uncomfortable.” I was actually a bit shocked: Has your partner ever hit you? Has your partner insulted you? Has your partner sexually abused you? And, then, it got uncomfortable.
What the hell? The technician was embarrassed but said the questions are for those few people who might need the prompt to ask for help.
Really? Some middle aged former military guy taking blood pressure and temperature for a video consult with a psych provider for the VA makes who want to confide that sort of thing? I simply said “no” until he stopped asking me the questions and took me to the video conference room where I sat down to confer with my new “doctor” via telecommunications.
The new therapist/whatever is German or Dutch, I think, with blond hair braided on the temples. She asked me to tell her my history. I wanted to say “For God’s sake, didn’t you read my chart?”
Didn’t.
She listened to my story in wonder because it really is quite an interesting one, physically, surgically, surviveability-wise and even, to some degree, spiritually. And since I could see she intended to try and help me when all I really want are the meds and no other “help” that might make me sick, I decided to give her the best rambling story I could come up with.
At the end of that ramble, I prompted her to ask me anything she wanted to know and guess what? She asked me if I wanted to harm myself three different ways and asked me the relationship questions, slightly rephrased.
I stopped by the Farm Store to check on the status of the Amish bunnies I took in Saturday and headed for the Amish market to put in my order for peaches.
Then, from there, I headed to by Bunny Contact in the community and I managed to pull into the Shirks (interesting name for such industrious people) little maple grove just in time for midday meal. Titus came out to wave me onto the porch, where I spoke to the family and stated my business. The first time I visited during a meal, I waited outside on the lawn until noon meal was finished. I’ve moved up a notch to porch.
Am going to hire Titus to make a hutch for my giants. He is going to consider the hutch I want and give me a price via US mail.
It is like driving into the 1800s.
I walked out to the rabbit hutches before I drove away and the ginormous horse teams were in the shade behind the outbuildings. The little wagons for the children and their ponies are arranged neatly under a shelf with everything cleaned and dried. A place for everything that makes sense for everyone.
Faith, Family and Hard Work make for solid communities.
Stucky: “I need some pain pills for my blown-out knee.”
Psyche Dude: “OK. But first I need to ask you a question. Did you ever have sex with your mother?”
Stucky: “Nonyer.”
Psyche Dude:: “Nonyer what??”
Stucky: “Nonyer fucken business, asshole.”
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Just a suggestion for your possible future interactions. Wow, Mags, what a story!
Mags- I had a Amish contractor here at the doomstead for a price to stain the logs. He was something out of a movie, biggest dude with HUGE arms and shoulders wearing the traditional straw hat and garb. Nicest guy you would ever want to meet but looked like Hoss Cartwright with a beard.
Some VA visit lady, ten minutes in and I would have said are you f’n wit me ??
It is a new “system” put in place for COVID. The doctor is right there in the building.
Serious weird world.
I only visit the VA doc twice a year, not month. But, seriously, do you want to harm yourself or others?
And I NEVER ask the VA for pain meds because if they prescribe them, they make you take a piss test to prove you took them and did not sell them.
What a country!
Didn’t I just read something or other about how the government doesn’t care about our veterans? They sure know how to waste a shit ton of FUCKING TAXPAYERS MONEY on shit like this.
I’m a WOMAN veteran, GNL. As long as I don’t tell them I’m straight, they care about me.
A complete distortion of reality
Oh my goodness
Another tedious “God is mean to me”/Christians are hypocrites blurt the only purpose of which is to then complain “the Bible-thumpers are hijacking my thread”.
See! See! Christians are meanies!
Didn’t read it. Read the same garbage before coming from ten lbs of shit in a five lb bag.
Yes, yes. That’s highly UN- Christian of me.
Got it.
You mean it’s like … “God will save America!, or “God wants you to repent!”, etc.? (Which can also be tedious when repeated countless times.)
You see, God-haters like me (so you say) makes it all balance out. Yin / Yang.
I don’t think that you hate God, I think that you are searching for truth, and most of all sincerity. So much of christianity is bogus. The Bible is a good book that has been weaponized.
Well, he’s a troll for sure and also knows we have to consider he’s searching for truth. I also consider he will be the first to turn us over cuz ‘why not?’.
The only thing I don’t know if he (or Jim) consciously know he’s the joker- the foil.
Yes, he does both, try to mess with people and observe their reactions, and also seek answers to life’s quandaries.
Who … or what … is the antichrist? Evil alliance—or sinister individual? Some say his appearance is still in the future. Others say he appeared long ago in the days of ancient Rome. But the Bible indicates that he is alive today! Bible prophecies teach that this antichrist power will play a crucial role in the final events of earth’s history.
https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/4992/t/who-is-the-antichrist-
So many candidates: fake Pope Bergoglio, Soros, Schwab, Zuckerberg. I’m going with Jake Sullivan.
The entire illegitimate regime of God haters, poison pushers and baby killers. And those are their better attributes.
You ask ===> “Who … or what … is the antichrist?”
But, then you say ===> “But the Bible indicates that he is alive today!”
Do you always answer your own questions … and in the same post?
You can click on the link. It must have been written s-l-o-w-l-y…even i could read it.
There are many antichrists that have gone out into the world. Antichrist is a spirit. The question may be, who is the Son of Perdition?
I am almost positive that we will even go as far back in societal mores as to be considered Victorian era. You should see the responses I received over the years when I tell people we will be beyond proper again.
Tattoo removal would be a good profession to pursue.
Forty years ago, did any of us think the Wasteland gangs from the “Road Warrior” were a precursor of what the idiot class and wannabes would model themselves after? Whoever wrote that screenplay puts Nostradamus to shame. “Ready to wage war for a tank of juice.”
Harry- If you knew which end was up, you would know that we don’t need a tank of “juice” in the future.
The only problem I have with Christianity, is that the so called followers, are not really, they go to church to feel better for the week., They do the opposite of what is taught, I’m no saint either.
Expecting them to be perfect doesn’t make sense. Being a little better than they would otherwise be is nothing to sneeze at, and that seems to be the case, if you ask me – if for no other reason than the fact that people who get up early on Sunday mornings tend to have their life together more than people who sleep until noon. Also, people who claim to have some problem (hypocrisy or theology) with their own nominal religion just to cover for the fact that they’re lazy or hung over are full of shit. Not saying that’s you, but it is a lot of people.
The self-righteous expect others to be perfect. They lack introspection. In reality Bible believers are to help one another overcome their faults. The problem is the lack of sincerity, the pretending. We all make mistakes, but some Christians pretend that they are holier than thou, which does not provide the encouragement and support for everyone to try to do better.
Yep. I don’t know how many times I find myself asking, “Are we reading from the same Bible?” when I compare what is stated as a belief vs. actions.
TV preachers are mostly con men I agree. Can’t say all of them but most. So many different sects and doctrines causing confusion and division. The enemy has infiltrated with occult doctrines, pedophiles and thiefs, witches and magicians. Same thing happened in the 1st century church. Apostles Paul warned of the enemy creeping in with false brethren and doctrines of devils. You know them by their fruits.
Christianity is CHRIST IN YOU. Being born again receiving the Holy Spirit. It’s a matter of what’s in your heart. Jesus said, the spirit will guide you in all truth…. We have a version of God’s word that requires study and prayer to understand. II Tim 2:15. The Bible has translation issues but I do believe it has multi layered multi dimensional truths. With an honest desire you can study scripture and the Spirit will guide you in the truth but without the Holy Spirit indwelling you understanding scripture is futile.
“Christianity isn’t about living an upright life. It’s forcing others to do so.”
It’s sad that you haven’t met a Christian. It sounds like you’ve met a lot of “church people.”
Christianity is about a relationship with Christ. Christ (and his true followers) would never ‘force’ you to do anything.
I’m right, you’re wrong. Deal with it.
Spot on…
Looking at current trends, if the USA is going to become a theocracy, it will become Muslim or something that the woke weirdos made-up. It’ll go bow to Mecca or sing My Cuntry tis a bee. And there will be some sort of bizarre looking idol. Christian Theocracy here, isn’t going to happen. That said, I wouldn’t rule out Bokononism either.
I think it will be a religo-Technocracy.
The masses will believe in and follow as worshipers, holy algorithms of the techno-state (tweaked a bit by the WEF/NWO folk). The body will be UBI. The state will be God.
It seems impossible only to those who can see reality, but still cling to the belief that the masses can see what they can see. They can’t. They won’t. These are children-in-adult-bodies who want to be children forever, wards of the state if that means getting what they want. Historical cultural and religious belief is already gone in these young folks. They embrace the digital and quite literally the unreal. They prefer it.
We don’t even really speak words with the same meaning anymore.
My spiritual walk with God is personal. Him and I. The measure of my faith is between Him and I. Religion is like politics, everyone interprets it to their own liking. True conviction is to admit that I fall short of the Glory of God, and that no man can save me from myself.
What a bunch of nonsense. Notice as North Americans have turned away from Christianity how much more violent they have become both domestically and abroad (with never ending wars). Notice how secular North Americans have governments who use ever more coercion. Notice since Christianity has been rejected in North America there is no longer any business or corporate ethic left. Without Christian spirituality notice hw empty life has become for most North Americans. No pathetic song can erase these facts.
Revolutionary War
War of 1812
Indian Wars
Spanish American War
Civil War
WWI
WWII
Korean War
And a bunch more.
Yup. Being a Christian nation sure helps not having any wars! /s
This should be our national anthem ….
“Onward, Christian soldiers! Marching as to war!”
“God’s church is a militant host. Its warfare is with unseen forces of evil. God’s people compose an army fighting to establish His kingdom in this earth. Their aim is to destroy the kingdom of Satan and to erect the kingdom of God over its ruins, which is “Righteousness”, and “peace”, and “joy” in “The Holy Ghost.” This militant army is composed of individual soldiers of the Cross, the armor of God is its defense, and prayer is the added power that crowns it all.”
Hoo Ah!! Let’s kill us some heretics!!
Muslims get it.
I am decades grateful now that I swallowed the religiousity red pill first, the hardest one for many. You’re not really awake or free until you can deprogram it all out for good – any indoctrination as evidenced by indignant reactivity on autopilot and belief repeating/defending that the ego and illusion of safety get so tightly bound to.
From this vantage point there’s no difference whatsoever between the absurd looking allegiance to delusion and militant resistance to mindset change of libtardnarrativeblindbeliefquoterepeatrepeatspeak and religiousitynarrativeblindbeliefquoterepeatrepeatspeak.
Time is getting late – might want to do a serious study on Salvation/Discipleship…………
pffft … here’s everything you need to know about salvation …
That’s right Sucky. We’ll make you handle the snakes.
Time for some late night gospel humor
Dear Stucky,
I LOVE this version and visuals of Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata!
I think “others” will as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYfCdA0KqVE