The Convention of States Project: A Bad Idea

Guest Post by Antonius Aquinas

Similar to Patrick Buchanan’s campaigns, Newt Gingrich’s “Contract with America,” the Tea Party, and to some extent Donald Trump’s presidency, the Convention of States Project* will not solve the crises that America faces.  It will, undoubtedly, like most of the previous reform and populist movements be sabotaged by the ruling class if it ever gets close to accomplishing its goals.

The Project’s rhetoric is “old-style” conservative/populist-speak which seeks to “[propose] amendments that impose fiscal restraint on the federal government, limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, and limit the terms of office for its officials and for members of Congress.”** Some of the proposed amendments include:

  • Congressional term limits
  • Requiring a two-thirds vote of the House and Senate to increase the public debt
  • Restoring the Commerce Clause to its original intent and scope
  • Repeal of the 16th Amendment, which gave us the income tax
  • Giving states, by a three-fifths vote, the power to negate any federal law, regulation or executive order giving Congress an easy means of overriding regulation

So far, 19 state legislatures have called for a constitutional convention, 34 states are needed for a convention to be called and, for an amendment to be passed, it must be approved by three quarters of state legislatures.

The state legislatures who have signed on have realized that the federal government has become omnipotent and the individual states are now merely appendages to Washington.  “The states,” said South Carolina state representative Bill Taylor, “have sort of lost their voice, and all we can do now is beg from the cheap seats and say, ‘Hey, don’t do that.’”***

After the totalitarian and draconian efforts of the U.S. government and those around the world the past two years in response to the “pandemic,” Mr. Taylor’s sentiment is, to say the least, an understatement!

The fundamental problem with efforts such as the Convention of States Project is that they do not understand the nature of the crises that both America and most of the world face.  For America, its current malaise can be traced shortly after its independence with the adoption of the Constitution itself.

While it has long been touted as a great document of freedom and liberty, it is anything but.  The “founding fathers” knowingly created a powerful central government and decreased the sovereignty of the individual state governments which had existed under the Articles of Confederation.

In the words of Murry Rothbard, the Constitution was a coup that, for the most part, was the antithesis of the spirit and drive of the American Revolution which was a movement against political centralization and empire:

It was a bloodless coup d’etat against an unresisting

Confederation Congress. . . . .  The Federalists, by use

of propaganda, chicanery, fraud, malapportionment of

delegates, blackmail threats of secession and even

coercive laws, had managed to sustain enough delegates

to defy the wishes of the majority of the American people

and create a new Constitution.****

Worse than the power grab was the establishment of an omnipotent state as Rothbard incisively continues:

The drive [for ratification] was managed by a

corps of brilliant members and representatives

of the financial and landed oligarchy.  These

wealthy merchants and large landowners were

joined by the urban artisans of the large cities in

their drive to create a strong overriding central

government – a supreme government with its

own absolute power to tax, regulate commerce,

and raise armies.*****

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The celebrated “separation of powers,” and “checks and balances” within the federal system and even the Bill of Rights, so often lauded by conservative and populist commentators, have proven from the very start to be ineffectual in stopping the expansion of state power.

The Constitution itself declares that it is the ultimate authority as Article VI states:

This Constitution and the laws of the United States which

shall be made in pursuance thereof, and all treaties made,

or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States,

shall be the supreme law of the land. . . . [Italics mine.]

The massive and now unresolvable social, economic and political troubles both in the U.S. and around the world stems from a concentration of political power that is inherent in the nature of constitutional government.  This power is augmented and sustained by a system of central banking which provides the nation state with seemingly unlimited financial power to implement its various social engineering schemes, conduct continuous warfare, and has the ability to crush any opposition to its hegemony.

The solution, which is all too obvious, but not attainable in the current ideological atmosphere dominated by statist thinking, is political decentralization.

The smaller political alignments under decentralization would probably coalesce around peoples with similar economic, social and religious affiliations and status and those with similar ethnic and racial backgrounds.  Such a system would be truly diverse and undoubtedly lower social tensions which derive from the central state’s forced integration polices.

Once political decentralization became a reality, the natural and mutually beneficial relationships and interactions between peoples would emerge.  The immense advantage of free trade – the widening of the division of labor and specialization – would be the norm between societies since smaller countries could not afford to restrict trade since doing so would lead to autarky and the resultant fall in standards of living to primitive levels.

Likewise, a universal monetary standard, most likely based on gold and silver, would arise among differing communities since a multitude of currencies would lead to monetary chaos and render economic calculation an impossibility.  Since no central state could impose its currency, the only honest and sound money – gold/silver – would be quickly adopted by all.

The mass invasion of the U.S. taking place under the negligence and encouragement of the Biden Administration could also be thwarted through political decentralization.  Areas where the lives and property of people are threatened by invaders have more of an incentive to effectively deal with unwanted groups than bureaucrats living often times thousands of miles away.

Each jurisdiction would make its own policies on who or how many it wanted in its territory.  Moreover, each community could expel undesirables without interference from those who are not property owners or members of such communities.

While those behind the Convention of States Project and the state legislatures which have called for a constitutional convention may be well meaning, they will ultimately fail.  Such efforts are a wrongheaded approach to address the myriad of problems that plague the U.S. and, for that matter, the entire world.

Instead of attempts to amend the Constitution or though the electoral process by finding the “right candidate,” the very viable and historically proven alternative of de-centralization through secession is the only pathway to ultimate success.  Until the break-up of the nation state is accomplished, America and the world’s future will be considerably bleak.

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43 Comments
overthecliff
overthecliff
October 17, 2022 6:09 pm

Bet on it. A Convention of States will only be initiated if the PTB see an opportunity to really change the Bill of Rights. It is a bad idea. The Bill of Rights is all that keeps us from bein UK,Austrakia or New Zealand. That would be PTB wet dream.

Jobrok obiden
Jobrok obiden
October 17, 2022 6:11 pm

The solution will not be from those that are the problem

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
October 17, 2022 7:08 pm

No one has ever been governed by a document.

Red River D
Red River D
  Iska Waran
October 17, 2022 10:09 pm

I guess you never beat the shit out of anyone with a dictionary.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Red River D
October 18, 2022 3:00 am

…or a Bible.

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
October 17, 2022 7:10 pm

Conventiom of Copper jacketed lead.

ZFG, out.

Ken31
Ken31
October 17, 2022 7:48 pm

Fuck the Constitution, it had its chance. Articles of Confederation now!

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Ken31
October 17, 2022 10:06 pm

I love it when people demand something that will never happen. It is so cute.

Ken31
Ken31
  Llpoh
October 18, 2022 12:06 am

comment image

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
October 17, 2022 8:37 pm

Pandora’s box. Keep it closed.

BL
BL
  MrLiberty
October 17, 2022 10:23 pm

As Barney Fife would say, “Nip it in the bud….nip it….nip it…nip it in the bud”. Create a online firestorm against this.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
October 17, 2022 9:02 pm

An Article V convention is doomed from the start. Any proposed Amendments to the Constitution would have to be approved by 38 states, meaning 13 states could band together to stop any and all Amendments. It would also be coopted by the politicians and nothing that would interfere with their private playground would even make it out of the Convention to be sent to the States.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 17, 2022 9:02 pm

Although the desired mission of a constitutional convention to rein in the stretch of power and control and place it firmly under the true intent of limited government sounds great !
BUT : REALITY SUCKS !
We cannot let the pathetic parasitic piles of shit on either side of the aisle any where near screwing with our founding documents !

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Anonymous
October 18, 2022 8:19 am

Look what they’ve already done without legal authority.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
October 17, 2022 9:10 pm

Nice thumb. That’s all I’m getting.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
October 17, 2022 9:25 pm

Remember the horses. People suck; animals don’t.

mark
mark
October 17, 2022 9:54 pm

We just got through singing together!

He is a noble best friend.

BL
BL
  mark
October 17, 2022 10:32 pm

Hoorah for the bonnie blue flag that bears the single star!

a9racer
a9racer
October 17, 2022 10:26 pm

Yeah, this article is bullshit. Sounds like breaking up Ma Bell again. Power is attracted to power. Eventually it all becomes centralized again.

a9racer
a9racer
  a9racer
October 17, 2022 10:28 pm

And if we break up America, China is only too willing to come buy everything it can and invade the rest. The result? Commie centralization.
I ain’t going for that.

Walter
Walter
October 17, 2022 10:56 pm

We will be fortunate not to get a convention of the states. The likely result of such a thing would be the elimination of all limitations on government through the constitution.

anon also
anon also
October 17, 2022 11:01 pm

Bravo.

“The “founding fathers” knowingly created a powerful central government and decreased the sovereignty of the individual state governments which had existed under the Articles of Confederation.”

ALWAYS about ‘The Available Tech’. Towards COMPLETE Control.

Shit Show from BEFORE the Git Go.

You-Are-Here.

Gentleman @ W,W, and W. Goes by the moniker Aesop, summarized the Lead-Up VERY Succinctly.

VERY astute. Like many here.

How Did We Get Here?

Jdog
Jdog
October 17, 2022 11:19 pm

The people who originally drafted the Constitution were very smart people. A hell of a lot smarter than anyone in public office today. I fear any attempt to re write the Constitution will result in a woke document that strips all rights from the Citizens.

Ken31
Ken31
October 18, 2022 12:09 am

I don’t know if many understand how well an artist has to know the animal to make a picture or sculpture like that.

Ken31
Ken31
October 18, 2022 12:22 am

Those are ropers. The low heal is favored for the time spent on the ground. Leather is traditional and is mostly used for dance floors these days. You have to walk different in this kind of footwear compared to sneakers, I have noticed. I can’t even find any like that. I am going to have to find a cobbler to try and fix my 28 year old similar pair of Justins. I wore them for farm and ranch work and about everywhere else. I don’t know how many times I had them resoled.

I don’t know why you can’t find round toed boots anymore. They are all those mexican square toes or some foofoo design. I don’t think square toes are comfortable for actual wearing. My foot is not a square.

Ken31
Ken31
October 18, 2022 12:23 am

That’s interesting. I never tied that phrase to the war. It was just a matter of fact.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 18, 2022 3:23 am

matt bracken is looking like a friggin prophet at this point! he had this (and so many other things) nailed a decade ago!

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark
October 18, 2022 3:50 am

Secession indeed might be the answer but have no illusions. It will only be accomplished through the spilling of blood. Lot’s of it. Emperors do not willingly give up their empire! This is true of emperors in the United States, or Canada. They are no different than their counterparts in the rest of the world.

clayusmcret
clayusmcret
October 18, 2022 5:54 am

I spoke with a guy who had a booth pushing this idea at an event this past weekend. IMHO the bottom line is it’s a great idea that the democrats would totally take over (while in progress) and make things even worse than they are now. Long game democrats would overwhelm the mamby pamby republicans sent to the convention.

Bob
Bob
October 18, 2022 9:11 am

Horesheads, NY

Mountainrat
Mountainrat
October 18, 2022 9:52 am

It’s a trap!

Aesop
Aesop
October 18, 2022 9:53 am

Reply from a recent Wilder post, invited to be dropped here:

If you’re going to correctly parse the corruption and metastasis of federal government, you have to include all four of the Tentpoles of Progressivist Rot:
The 16th
17th
18th
and 19th Amendments to the Constitution.

The 16th Amendment allowed Congress the unhindered authority to directly tax every citizen. Now endlessly, and perpetually. Before that, such taxes were flatly illegal, and ruled as such. The only direct fee one generally paid to Uncle before that time was for postage stamps.

The 17th Amendment removed the appointment of senators from the purview of the states’ legislatures, giving them a thumb on the scale in DC and requiring anything proposed to pass muster with the whole state, rather than be run by the cabal of the most populous cities within one. It instituted the foremost object of The Founders’ fear and loathing in Washington: it made the Senate subject to direct democracy, and the whims of the mob, rather than being the federal body the states controlled. For reference, if the 17th amendment were repealed tomorrow, Republicans would have 64 senators right this minute, and Democrats would have 36. With those numbers, the most liberal justice appointed to the Supreme Court since 1915 would have been Ann Coulter. If the Dems lost a single state, the most liberal SCOTUS or federal judge pick would have been Judge Judy, Joe Arpaio, or Ted Nugent. And justices like Scalia and Thomas would be considered moderates.
Most of the rest would bear more resemblance to “hanging” judges from somewhere around 1870.
Just for openers.
Ditto for the Cabinet, and all ambassadors.

The 18th Amendment was the Grand Experiment to pretend alcohol was never fermented, and the only Amendment to date so doomed to failure it was repealed a few years later, but only after it single-handedly corrupted every level of politics, and jump-started the Mob and criminal gangs from a few scattered ghetto bosses and the occasional corruptocrat city, to national and international prominence. Well-played, @$$holes.

The 19th amendment gave women the right to vote.
Rather disastrously, as we shall point out.
Without the votes of women, the last Democrat elected to occupy the White House would have been Woodrow Wilson, in 1916.
You can piss and moan back and forth about whether or not women should have ever been given the franchise, but you cannot argue that on the whole, every calamity that has befallen the country since they got it has been directly traceable to the exact candidates they elected, by providing the margin of victory, in every election since 1920.
Just for openers, the mothers of America gave us four terms of FDR, prolonged the Depression greatly, and gave us the isolationism that made WWII inevitable, then piled on with Harry Truman, and let communism run rampant around the world for another 40 years, and we’re still dealing with the fallout (literal and metaphorical) from all that stupidity. That’s before we dig into the nonsense behind 60 years of unhindered Democrat congresses (which gave you that exact Wide-Open Immigration Act of 1965, and ever more liberal-activist SCOTUS rulings), plus JFK, LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Obozo, and now Emperor Stumblef**k Poopypants I, first installed dictator of the American Dumbocommunist Empire, courtesy of generational millions of Karens, and their archdeaconesses, Rachel Madcow, and that coven of brujas on The Spew.
QED

Repeal three more progressive Amendments, and you can probably get your country back, after 50 years of diligent effort, and a few volleys of grapeshot.

Just saying.

As it is, it’s going to take trainloads of that grapeshot first, which isn’t wholly unhealthy in the long run, but it’s pretty hard on the furniture in the short-term.

Ghost
Ghost
October 18, 2022 9:42 pm

What is really needed is a new Leader with true innovation and foresight. Perhaps one that suggests the leaders of 50 states should decide.

Perhaps one that recognizes he/she is NOT really the boss of us.

The question Nick and I ask ourselves when we watch the limited bit of national news we watch is the same as the one we ask ourselves out in the deer woods.

“Should I take the shot?”

There are some shots that should indeed be taken, should the opportunity present.