Guest Post by Kurt Schlichter
The 2022 midterms are not yet over – get ready to savor the wailing and gnashing of teeth of broken, shattered libs! – but the GOP’s 2024 presidential race is already underway. Not officially, not openly, but we can see the candidates’ covert positioning. Soon it will be overt. Word on the street is that not long after the red wave hits, Donald Trump will announce he is seeking the Republican nomination, taking credit for some of the big midterm wins. He would love a quick and quiet coronation, but that’s not happening. The GOP primary fight is going to be epic, and if you think Ron DeSantis is not going to run, I have a bridge to sell you that Governor DeSantis rebuilt in record time during his massively successful Hurricane Ian response.
Last Sunday afternoon I got bored – you can only slap around so many Twitter pinko blue checks before it gets monotonous – and I decided to toss a match into a barrel of high-octane gasoline. I tweeted “Okay, let’s do this thing. Who do you hardcore patriots want to see win the GOP 2024 nomination right this minute, knowing you can change your mind as the primary progresses…” Then I listed the poll choices and set it to run for two hours. I expected a few hundred results, and for the former president to come in ahead of the pack.
That did not happen. In just two short hours, 14,713 people voted in the poll and the responses were shocking:
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President Donald J. Trump – 32.6%
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Governor Ron DeSantis – 64.1%
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Another based GOPer – 1.8%
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Liz Cheney or her ilk – 1.6%
Perhaps the most stunning part was that 1.6% of the people following me on Twitter supported Liz Cheney, Larry Hogan, or some other Never Trump dork. But the fact that nearly two-thirds of the poll voters picked Ron DeSantis over Donald Trump was pretty amazing too.
Now, these people are not soft Republicans. These are not moderate invertebrates. These are not cruise ship cons. My timeline is predominantly hardcore folks who generally like Donald Trump. They think he did a pretty good job as president. They think the last election was flawed. They will vote for him if he wins the nomination without hesitation. But only three in ten put him as their first choice for the Republican nomination in 2024.
Why? And how does that square with the formal polls showing Trump far ahead in a head-to-head with any other Republican?
Now, my poll makes no pretense of being scientific, though #sceince’s reputation has taken some hits of late. But it means something, and frankly very few polls – even formal ones – are much better than an educated guess. My poll was of engaged, very conservative people who think a lot about politics and prioritize winning. Perhaps among Republicans in general, few have really put a lot of thought into it such that they have already focused on the issue enough to consider backing off the natural default position, which is supporting Trump again. The 2022 elections are not even over with – the only people who have given the issue much thought are us kooks who think about politics a lot.
But this does raise the possibility that support for Donald Trump is wide but shallow. When people actually have to consider their choices – and when the get introduced to people like DeSantis or Mike Pompeo or the others who may run – they might decide that Trump’s weaknesses outweigh his strengths. Surprisingly few people in formal polls even know much about DeSantis yet; if he runs – and he really needs to or he might miss his window – they will get to know him, and as the upcoming disembowelment of Charlie Crist in the Florida gubernatorial election will show, when Republicans get to know him, they like him.
Trump senses the threat, and he has lashed out. He recently got mad at DeSantis for endorsing the Republican running in Colorado. Joe O’Dea inexplicably decided to pick a fight with Trump and got clobbered for it, but Trump telling people not to support a GOP candidate brought back bad memories of Trump’s blunder regarding the Georgia run-offs. In attacking Republican DeSantis for endorsing the Republican Senate candidate, Trump looked selfish but also weak. His slam on DeSantis failed to land. Trump’s ability to belittle opponents was devastating in 2016, but those opponents often deserved belittlement. Low Energy Jeb! Bush? That moniker summed up the bloated clown perfectly. But if he tries that on a guy with a track record of achievement and being based – and of punching back twice as hard – it could fall flat and remind voters of what they do not like about Trump when Trump needs to be reminding people of his long list of successes. Trump loses a campaign based on vindicating his personal grievances. Most every GOP voter likes Trump, but few GOP voters care if his feelings are hurt if that gets in the way of winning.
The poll drew many comments that identified some key points. A lot of folks reasoned that Trump should do four years then DeSantis should do eight more. That sounds great, except it assumes Trump wins in 2024, and electability is the key issue for GOP voters. It also assumes DeSantis would take the Veep slot. He won’t – though Kari Lake sure might. And DeSantis has no promise of an open field in 2028. He would likely have to fight Kari and others in 2028 for the nomination regardless, which is good. No coronations ever.
Some people felt that Trump is owed another term, and that it would be disloyal to oppose him. Trump certainly is owed another term, but not by us. We do not owe our politicians anything – they owe us, and that goes for loyalty too. Politicians should be loyal to us, and we should discard any that fail to cut it. It’s about winning. Sentimentality is for losers.
Some people think DeSantis is too establishment. They point to Paul Ryan and Jeb! Bush supporting him. It is unclear that he ever asked for these losers’ endorsements, and he probably does not want them, but what is important is what DeSantis does. He does competently govern, he does slam the media, and he does own the libs?
Trump has exhausted some conservatives. Others think he is too old. Oh, they would happily vote for him if he got nominated again, but many prefer a guy they see as embodying a lot of Trump’s assets without his corresponding liabilities.
Very few voters were interested in anyone else besides the King Kong and Godzilla of the Grand Old Party. Mike Pence’s potential candidacy seems to be based on telling Republicans who want a coherent and clear Ukraine plan to get out of the party. His campaign is off to a flying stop. Mike Pompeo is running, but he just does not have DeSantis’s record of heat. Ted Cruz will run again, but many think he had his shot. And Nikki Haley is, well, Jeb! in a skirt.
It’s Trump or DeSantis, and the fight is already underway below the surface even if they are both pretending it’s not. Right now, its passive aggressive, but it will not be long before it is aggressive aggressive, and sooner than you think.
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Schlichter reminds me of the Reagan era. Like Reagan, DeSantis talks a great game. He can assess the political landscape and find vulnerable spots to attack. I was in my early 30s when Reagan made his successful run and I was a believer. I raised over $2,000 for his campaign. Back then that could have bought me a pretty good used car. If you compare Reagan with Carter he was a raging success. But then Ron Paul exploded on the scene and I got a different perspective. At the end of Reagan’s term, he had put monsters in place like Cheney Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld so the MIC was thriving. Reagan began the horrible practice of granting Big Pharma immunity from product liability lawsuits and how did that turn out? He started 2 new departments and the government grew by 30% by the time he left the white house. Yes, the USSR collapsed during his term but collectivist regimes always collapse.
So shove it Schlichter. Stop with the ass-kissing and tell me how he feels about fiat currency and foreign military adventurism.
muh Judeo-Christian values…
“I know this may be laughed and sneered at in some sophisticated circles, but ours is a Judeo-Christian heritage, and ours is a loving and living God, the fountain of all truth and knowledge” President Reagan 1983
“Judaism is Judaism because it rejects Christianity, and Christianity is Christianity because it rejects Judaism”
Rabbi Eliezer Berkovits
Nobody attends a Judeo-Christian church.
The commutative property applies that 1-1=0.
ken31
And what does that have to do with the Subject?
It means Satan Worship and Christianity when hyphenated together do not add up to anything. Satan-Christ = nonsense. Judeo-Christian = Christian-Judeo = only a fake jew would put these together with a hyphen. Judea ended when Christ was resurrected. These people are imposters.
How can Jews have the same values as Christians when Jews rejected Christ and His values?
Christianity>Judism ; that Truth offends my blood Brethren Jews and I hate that, but pray they come to see the Light and convert; please read Is 53 and Zec 13. Jesus came for Jews first.
NOT a lawyer, Thank God!
In mathematics, a binary operation is commutative if changing the order of the operands does not change the result. It is a fundamental property of many binary operations, and many mathematical proofs depend on it. Most familiar as the name of the property that says something like “3 + 4 = 4 + 3” or “2 × 5 = 5 × 2”, the property can also be used in more advanced settings. The name is needed because there are operations, such as division and subtraction, that do not have it (for example, “3 − 5 ≠ 5 − 3”); such operations are not commutative, and so are referred to as noncommutative operations. The idea that simple operations, such as the multiplication and addition of numbers, are commutative was for many years implicitly assumed. Thus, this property was not named until the 19th century, when mathematics started to become formalized.[1][2] A corresponding property exists for binary relations; a binary relation is said to be symmetric if the relation applies regardless of the order of its operands; for example, equality is symmetric as two equal mathematical objects are equal regardless of their order.[3]
it’s obvious you’ve never been to a Saturday morning service at a reformed synagogue
It’s obvious you aren’t a Christian.
I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Jesus Christ
this was an attempt at humor in regards to Arthur’s comment: “Nobody attends a Judeo-Christian church.”
and just as obvious: you’ve never been to a Saturday morning service at a reformed synagogue which most Conservative or Orthodox Jews find as Jewish as a church service
Even Jesus wasn’t a christian.
You cannot serve two masters, either you serve God or you serve Satan.
I’d be very cautious about quoting Eliezer Berkovits: he has openly rejected the presence of G-d during the Holocaust. No Jew, of any stripe, will ever gainsay the presence of G-d at any place at any time.
As a philosopher/theologian, I don’t rate Berkovits very high.
I could give a rat’s ass what you rate anything.
Not really. Jesus – Yashua – was 100% Jewish and never wanted to start a new religion. So, in reality, it’s the Christians who piggy backed on to and stole and existing religion. The result was the dog’s breakfast we know as Paulianity.
And gave amnesty to 12 million illegal aliens , who reproduced 10 fold, thereby setting a precedent for all other Deep Shekel pwnd cucks to follow.
Left: Death to America. Open border for all.
Right: Stop the invasion. Save our Republic.
GOP: We must seek a legal path to the destruction of our nation.
12 million, that’s what Trump would award if it meant the Hispanic vote and the throne. I’m thinking it was “only” approximately 2.7 million with Reagan.
“I was a believer”
A recent post by Uncola featured
DIFFERENT as Night and…
The ‘Reality’. Of BONZO
DeSantis is a RINO. He’s bought and paid for like every politician. He’s the same as Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush. Weird how Schlichter manages to be fooled these frauds every single time. DeSantis is fine as governor of Florida. And he should stay there.
What if people just stopped participating in the game?
You will be ruled over either way.
You go to a FEMA camp sooner.
“You go to a FEMA camp sooner”
Like that which is near and dear to brandon.
Depends™
Thank God more people are “getting it”. I’ve been frustrated for years to see how people fall for the platitudes every so often but be stunned, STUNNED when the heat goes on that machine politics predominates in Washington decision making.
Word is, he’s hired people to get started both, on his 2024 presidential campaign and to destroy Trump. But he’s such a good guy, right. I’ve said so long not to trust this guy. Sure he’s doing great right now, but is it because he cares about Florida or does care about Florida but has further aspirations and wants to make a name for himself in order to get there. There’s more news than that, but that’s all I can recall off the top of my head.
CTH has detailed all the corporate GOPe shilling for DeSantis to take out Trump in 2024. Very reminiscent of ¡JEB! and his brother, W.
Five Days in Bunker following Mar-a-Lago Raid 8/9/22
No expressed support for Donald Trump following Mar-a-Lago raid 8/9/22.
New brand image consulting team 8/14/22
New communications team 8/14/22
National advertising campaign
94% billionaire and corporate funding
Raised $200+ million for state governor race?
Cancels Lee Zeldin fundraiser after meeting with New York real estate donor who supports Hochul
Endorsed by Club For Growth (C4G)
Voted to support TPP trade agreement and Obama Fast Track trade authorization
Supports all Ukraine funding and U.S. government spending in Ukraine
Endorsed Florida Red Flag Laws, most firearm confiscation of any state
Silent over the 100 Florida citizen J6 detainees (largest number in nation)
Asked legislature to criminalize boycotts of Israeli companies, including pharmaceutical companies
No support for E-verify system or employment law against illegal alien hires
Endorsed by Paul Ryan
Endorsed by Jeb Bush
from CTH
It’s a pretty compelling indictment. Turning around when he was on the way to campaign for Zeldin after being instructed to cancel by the rich Hochul donor was really low. Food for thought: Governor Zeldin could pardon Trump of any NY state charges. Trump failed at so much, it’s hard to imagine rooting for him, but DeSantis seems like a real snake, the more the evidence comes in.
It is the Republican playbook to throw out some red meat to the base to distract from them steeling your cowherd.
FDT
I like the guy and wish he was our guv in CO, but increasingly, I get the impression that is the point, he is GOPe reaction/creation to Trump. They are even more desperate than the Dems as the Trump phenomena has occurred in their house. Trump is taking over their party, it is clear the RINO’s hate him as much, more than the Dems.
Que project Desantis.
Maybe he was MAGA at one time, but deals have been made and he is RINO now.
Tiny hats, all the way down
Better than tiny brains.
We are not voting our way out of this.
Two thumbs up for Arthur’s comment. He is so right.
No probably not, but voting helps generally, and in some places it still has merit.
As much as I suspect Desantis, see above, his 2018 victory was a mere 44,000 votes in FL.
Imagine what FL would be like today if the Dem, black, homo, meth head Andrew Gillum would have won.
So obviously in this case, which is a large case, Governor of Florida, voting mattered, big time. Florida was one of the better States to live in these past 4 tumultuous years.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/photos-of-andrew-gillum-hotel-room-released-by-police-show-stained-bedsheets-spilled-pills-report
Meth might be legal.
Medical Meth…
Some of that blue Heisenberg.
Always wanted to try that stuff!!!
” but voting helps generally”
RVSP (Recovering Voter Support Protocol)
1) Face mirror.
2) Adjust distance until crystal clarity is Achieved. (Warning! Do Not be startled by face You see, NOT what You ‘remember’ )*
3) say: ‘but voting helps generally’
4) Repeat as necessary, until a kamala-esque response is achieved.
* IF You are not laughing already, just thinking of the face You ‘See’, You may have missed “The Meaning Of Life”
But, By ALL Means…VOTE. HARDER!
Yep. Schlicter’s message: “The next election will win everything back!”
2024 elections?!Optimistic little bugger!
How to vote:
Accelerationists for Harris!
DeSantis needs to fulfill his second term completely before attempting to be POTUS. I’ll stick with Trump.
I wish I knew what it was SPECIFICALLY that people hate about DJT. Of course he has a big ego – deservedly so, but that has no impact on his abilities to govern. Obummer was the biggest narcissist to ever occupy the WH. None of the ‘crimes’ that have been trotted out by the liberals have any validity. The only thing I know is that the left and the DC elite hate him, and that is enough to make him the best man for the job. I think he has learned (along with the rest of us) just how deep the swamp is and will conduct himself accordingly when he regains the presidency.
I respect your Service Sir. When the fight was taken to him, instead of defending himself and the nation as CINC from the communist coup by immediately ordering the US Marines to surround the 6 Blue City vote counting centers and to perform an Audit ( and subsequent prosecutions) , he ran of with ms trophy wife to his mansion in Florida. Besides, he is a Zionist who appointed NWO Conspirators to almost every post. He didn’t prosecute Harpy, he let her kick his ass. He Warp speeded the CV-19 Clot Shot Genocide Program. He did not stop Chem-Spraying or Social Media Censorship, etc. If I was his Commander Sir, I would not recommend him for promotion.
He did not stop Chem-Spraying
He talked such a great game as a candidate, so “for-the-people” ya know, that I really thought one of the things he would do — easily could do as CINC — was stop the spraying of chemtrails.
He was all hat, no cattle as I’m told they say in Texas; plus Javanka, plus a hundred other things. Fuck him & his tiny hat
Watch the second half of RFK jr’s Real Anthony Fauci.
from about 26:50 to about 28:30
So, two minutes worth. Can you handle it?
Specifically and plenty enough , he is a false leader.
Did Trump wrap himself in a flag as a Democrat? Once a Democrat always a Democrat. Just look at former Texas governor Rick Perry. Who besides a Democrat would bring a Chinese network technology company to Texas but a Democrat? “In 1984, Perry was elected to the Texas House of Representatives as a Democrat from district 64. He befriended fellow freshman state representative Lena Guerrero, a staunch liberal Democrat who endorsed Perry’s reelection bid in 2006.” – wiki ( no lies there).
Further , who would appoint Mr. Perry as United States Secretary of Energy? Only a Democrat aka Trump.
The writer of this garbage is totally clueless.
Take if from someone who tried to scuttle Trump.
https://gab.com/Spacecowboy777/posts/109240266716081600
It’s kurt schphincter, what do you expect? Have you ever heard him on the radio (he fills in for Jugh Jewitt occasionaly) — he can turn a phrase once in awhile, but mostly he’s just neozio-con cringe.
FDT
We all going to jail…reeeee
Don’t Gulag me , bruh.
The NKVD is alive and operating under the guise of Federal law enforcement.
AFTER they get 2500 via paypal for each utterance.
Ok, “the lesser of evil” , tRump or DeSantis? You know, the hold one’s nose nonsense in justification of voting evil since evil is still evil.
Anybody but Trump.
That’s Democracy: You get to choose your poison.
“Our Democracy!”
It’s lunacy. Stop voting.
My first vote was for Gerald Ford. Been a “good” republican, held my nose and voted for Romney and McCain. NEVER AGAIN!
I will vote communist before I vote Cuck.
If an independent shows up on the ballots that is not gay mark the independent. Green party, Libertarian party, and needless to say demontoad party, all gay. However, since tRump likes to entertain LGBTQ and Log Cabin Republicans down there at Mar-a-Lago, and since some folks seem to be boasting Trump owns the Republican party, geez, me thinks a vote for anyone amongst these parties must be queer, eh? What’s the difference anymore?
tRump for LGBTQ. Hailing from, Queens surely no one is surprised by this.
Schlichter is a complete doofus who lives in the 1980s. He still believes it’s politics as usual, that elections are essentially fair, and that party that wins will actually do something positive for America. None of these are true. A GOP tsunami in Nov or in 2024 will change nothing because the GOP are just as big traitors as the Dems, and it’s all controlled by the Deep State. Oh, and Schlichter took the vaxx, so his opinions mean nothing.
“Ted lies” so he is out of it and one of Sean Hannity’s idols, Marco Rubio, sweats too much.