What would a Russian defeat mean for the people of the West?

Guest Post by The Saker

What would a Russian defeat mean for the people of the West?

Regular readers of the blog know that I separate our poor and long-suffering planet into two basic parts: Zone A, aka the AngloZionist Empire, aka the World Hegemony aka the “Axis of Kindness” and what I call Zone B, or the Free World.  Very approximately, we need to separate the ruling elites and the people they rule over separately.  Here is, very roughly, what we get:

Zone A Zone B
Ruling elites Hate Russia/Putin Some fear the Hegemony, but others don’t
People mostly indifferent or hostile mostly support Russia/Putin

Next, I propose to make a simple though experiment.  Let’s assume that Russia loses the war against NATO.  We do *not* need to spell out how exactly such a defeat could/would happen, we simply assume that Russia is unable to achieve her goals of denazification and demilitarization of the Ukraine (and, really, all of NATO), that NATO forces are successful in defeating the Russian military machine (again, it does not matter how, with or without amazing Wunderwaffen) and that Russia very clearly loses.

We don’t even need to define what “defeat” would mean?  Maybe we can imagine that Russia gets keeps Crimea, but loses all her recently liberated regions from the former Ukraine, or maybe NATO manages to even occupy Crimea. I don’t see NATO tanks in downtown Moscow, but we can even imagine a purely psychological defeat in which both sides believe that Russia has lost and NATO won.

Again, details, no matter how improbable and far removed from reality, do not matter.  What matters is only this: once all the four groups above realize that NATO has defeated Russia, how would they react?

For the leaders of the Hegemony, this would be a dream come true.  In fact, the Neocons running the Hegemony will most likely decide that they need to “finish the job” which they did not finish in the 90s, and that Russia needs to be broken up into several parts.  This would be the West’s latest “final solution” for the “Russian problem”.

For the leaders of the Free World, a Russian defeat would signal that there are no alternatives to the Hegemony and that like it or not, the AngloZionists will rule the planet.  Like the Borg in Star Trek like to proclaim: “We are the Hegemony.  Resistance is futile.  You will be assimilated“.

For most people in the Free world, a Russian defeat would be a crushing disappointment for the simple reason that most people would see the AngloZionist plan for what it is: get Russia first, then take on and bring down China and then, eventually, Iran and any other nation daring to disobey the rulers of the Hegemony.

Clearly, this is not about the Ukraine, this is about the future of mankind as a whole.

But what about the people in Zone A who currently already live under the AngloZionist yoke?

[Quick reminder: I have decided, for various reasons, not to discuss internal US politics on the Saker blog and I will try hard to stick to this rule.  Still, I will state the obvious: we all now know the outcome of the latest elections in the USA and the adults in the room understand what happened, no need to list various truisms here.  If there is anybody reading this who would sincerely believe that some variation of the Neocon Uniparty in power will change things for the better or even slow down the inevitable collapse I would recommend that this person stop reading here.  Now for the rest of us:]

I think that the initial reaction of most people in Zone A will be a mix of relief (“Of course I knew that the West would win!“) and indifference (transgender issues are SO much more important!): their valiant “finest fighting force in the history of the world” kicked some rooskie commie ass which most definitely deserved some ass-kicking.  Some of the most sanguine defenders of the “western civilization” will even drop by our comments section and gloat “ha! ha! told you! your Putin and his clueless generals got their asses kicked by the most bestest US and NATO generals!“.  And for a while, they will feel really good.  Vindicated:  finally the dumbshit stupid Russians will pay the price for electing and supporting such a weak, indecisive, naive, corrupt, incompetent (and possibly even dying of cancer) leader!

And if only the Kremlin had had the wisdom to listen to its “western friends”!

But no, the Kremlin did not, and now there is going to be hell to pay.  Of course, if Russia’s “western friends” had been in charge, they would have executed a lightening fast blitzkrieg a long time ago, smashed Banderastan into smithereens (à la Fallujah if you wish) and quickly an decisively defeated NATO.  But those clueless idiots in the Kremlin did not listen, and so they deserve what is coming next.

Okay, fair enough.

But what about the regular people in Zone A?  The ones whose “side” supposedly “won”?

Once the initial bliss and celebrations are over, what will happen to them next?

Anybody want to take a guess?  If so, please post your thoughts in the comments section below.

My personal take is that after the defeat of Russia, the defeat of China (by whatever means) would be next.  Once that happens, all of the following will become decapitated and irrelevant: BRICS, SCO, CSTO.  The next country on the Hegemony’s kill list is Iran which, having lost the backing of both Russia and China will not be able to successfully challenge the Hegemony.  That, in turn will have major consequences for the entire Middle-East.  Wannabe Pasha Erdogan would be very quickly brought to heel.  Ditto for MBS.

The Israelis will feel like they “fixed the universe” well enough and that their Moshiach must be next 🙂

With Russia and China out of the way, Central Asia would be frankly easy picking for the Hegemony. In fact, all the Russian limitrophes would quickly be absorbed into the Hegemony.

The same goes for Pakistan and India, who would quickly lose most (or even all) of their sovereignty.  Afghanistan will be handed over to the (US-baked and run) ISIS.  Eventually, both Latin America and African will be fully recolonized (to the immense relief and joy of the local comprador class).

Now I submit that anybody with a modicum of information and intelligence will agree that the gang of woke freaks currently running the USA and almost every EU country out there doesn’t give a damn about the people they rule over: they see them only as means of production, in other words, as slaves who need to be given sufficient amounts of (bad) food and immense amounts of (truly demonic) “entertainment” to keep them nice, and happy and, above all, obedient and ignorant.  So here comes my question:

With Zone B gone, what hope for a better future, if any, could the slaves of the AngloZionist Hegemony keep in their hearts if our entire planet turns into Zone A?

The current repressive apparatus available to the US ruling class which includes 17 “intelligence” agencies,  the biggest military aggression budget on the planet, the highest number of prisoners kept in jails, the total informational control provided by Google, Amazon, Netflix, Facebook, Twitter, etc. etc. etc. militarized police forces and other agencies ready to deal with “internal terrorists” (sometimes defined as any MAGA person), and a school and college system designed to create obedient office plankton (white collar) and fast food employees (blue collar) with almost no awareness, nevermind any understanding, of the outside world.  EU states are not quite there (yet) but they are catching up fast.

This is not a system which will simply collapse by itself or, even less so, be overthrown by its “deplorables”.

I have mentioned this many times in the past: the US political system is neither viable nor reformable.

The EU political system is basically an extension of the US political system, just with a more strongly pronounced colonial mindset (“fuck the EU” right?).

So will the Hegemony turn our entire planet into a giant and “woke” Disney World run by Neocons?

Not as long as Russia, China, Iran and others are standing firm.  But if these “resisting nations” are crushed, then its show over for the people of Zone A whose slavery will not only last even much longer, but whose living conditions will further rapidly deteriorate

And once the “bread and games” thingie fails, you can bet that violent repression is next.

ANY regime which seriously aims at colonizing the entire planet (which the Hegemony undoubtedly does!) will ALWAYS keep its own population in slave-like conditions, materially, culturally and spiritually.

So, to paraphrase Malcolm X, the only hope for the House Negros still remains the Field Negro.  Whether the House Negros themselves understand that or not is immaterial.

Let me rephrase this in an even more shocking way: the last and only hope for the people of the USA and the EU would be a total Russian victory against NATO.  A NATO defeat will bring down not only NATO itself, but also the EU and that, in turn, would force the US to (finally!) become a normal, civilized, country.

As for the EU, a NATO defeat would mean the end of one thousand years of imperialism.

I get it.  For a civilization built upon the assumption of racial superiority (whether officially proclaimed or not) the notion that the only possible salvation could come from “inferior Asiatic barbarians” is shocking and can only be considered as an extreme form of doubleplusbadcrimethink.  Such a thought is, quite literally, unthinkable for most.

Yet, as I mentioned above, what the House Negros understand or not is entirely irrelevant.  Not only do they have no agency, they want none (Poland anybody?).

Conclusion:

Russia won’t lose this war, most of us understand that.  But to those who don’t, I will offer one simple conclusion: a Russian defeat would be a disaster for Russia.  And China.  And the rest of the planet.  But it will also be a true calamity for the oppressed people of the West.  They, of all people, should be very careful what they wish for. And the next time they want to hallucinate and gloat about a “strategic Russian retreat/defeat” they should ask themselves a simple question: what might this mean for *me* and *my own* future?  Do I really have a reason to rejoice?

Maybe they simply got used to being slaves and the idea of *real* freedom and diversity simply terrifies them?

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28 Comments
Marky
Marky
November 17, 2022 1:17 pm

call Zone B, or the Free World.

What planet is he on? So China and Russia are the “free world”? Oh yea, can’t wait till will have the freedom Chinese have. It’ll be great.

falconflight
falconflight
  Marky
November 17, 2022 2:23 pm

Let’s just face the reality that are no good guys.

Red River D
Red River D
  falconflight
November 17, 2022 4:35 pm

Somebody put that in a Book I know.

Written between 2000 and 3500 years ago.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  falconflight
November 18, 2022 9:53 am

Well, you smoked out 4 atheists so far…or maybe they’re just fucking Mooseslimes.

RiNS
RiNS
  Marky
November 17, 2022 2:43 pm

Being free in the political sphere Marky is but a question of semantics..

Marky
Marky
  RiNS
November 17, 2022 8:30 pm

What I am contesting is his obvious obfuscation of Russia and China in Zone A. Not including them in Zone A infers they are in the “free world” of zone B. Reality is there is no Zone B. There is no free world.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Marky
November 18, 2022 9:54 am

Stand next to me and you’ll at least be close to freedom.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Marky
November 17, 2022 3:20 pm

Putin never tried to get me fired for not getting a shot I didn’t need for a disease that was CREATED by the US government which – for my age cohort – was barely more lethal than the flu and for which I already had natural immunity by the time the vaccines were rolled out. The US is going around instigating trouble and trying to topple governments around the world. The West tries to bully every country to enact the LGBTQIAXYZ agenda and will eventually push them to adopt the “let the kids pick their gender” agenda – because sterilizing children helps the depopulation effort. It’s Zone B (the Global South, if you want to call it that) that’s saying “fuck that shit”. What good is “freedom” to cast a ballot in a fraudulent election if your son’s crazy bitch ex-wife has court support to have your minor grandson castrated? I don’t need China to implement tyranny; our own government is working on Central Bank Digital Currency

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Marky
November 17, 2022 5:16 pm

The Russians and Chinese aren’t telling our kids to slice off their genitals.

Marky
Marky
  Anonymous
November 17, 2022 8:52 pm

Thats a weak argument. No one is forcing people to cut off genitals. Stupid people do stupid shit. There are no forced labor camps for dissidents (not yet anyway), organ harvesting prisons, slave laborers, people aren’t locked down at their place of employment for months at a time, no digital covid passes to enter a grocery store nor are there forced abortions mandated by goverment. China is the template for the NWO global governance. Its bad here but not near the tyranny faced by the people of China. As for Russia? The do have the moral high ground now concerning family values and gender but the corruption and oppression is severe. Their children have no choices and are wards of the state for indoctrination and assigned occupations based on physiological and testing assessments. There is no liberty in Russia. Just ask the conscripts for the Ukie war.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Marky
November 17, 2022 10:52 pm

Dude, they’re talking minor children into having themselves sterilized. A psychologist who says “maybe not so fast” will lose their license. Fathers have been cut out of the decision in both the US and Canada and been forced to see their children maimed.

The vaccine passports to enter the grocery store were just as coercive in Lithuania (now part of the GloboHomoSchlomo American Empire) as in China. Australian cops were tackling grannies for walking outside their houses.

Forced abortions in China were evil, but it’s not our country and they’re on the other side of the world. As far as Russian corruption and oppression, we’re probably even. MAGA grannies are still in jail without trial for walking between the velvet ropes on Jan 6th. And the FBI instigators that day were on par with the KGB of old.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Marky
November 18, 2022 11:50 am

Its bad here but not near the tyranny faced by the people of China.

So when did you go to China?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
November 18, 2022 1:05 pm

If China is awesome, why aren’t you there already?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Marky
November 18, 2022 1:03 pm

You’re fighting dichotomous thinking. You can’t win.
If US/EU/NATO/“the west” is bad (which it is); then whatever is not US/EU etc MUST be good.

Ghost
Ghost
November 17, 2022 1:30 pm

Perhaps, he is on this spaceship orbiting the moon?

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flash
flash
  Ghost
November 17, 2022 2:44 pm

Best CGI evah!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ghost
November 18, 2022 11:52 am

So nice clear live shots of Apollo sites coming soon, right?

Bob P
Bob P
November 17, 2022 4:09 pm

The West is going down the drain economically, culturally, and politically. I don’t see the war in Ukraine having much impact on that other than to hasten the collapse. So, Mr. Saker, how will a Russian win translate into a better life in the West? What magic mechanism will bring that about? Russia won’t lose, and if NATO doesn’t start WW III in response, that will no doubt be good for the world outside of the West, but we’re screwed no matter what.

Lucredius
Lucredius
November 17, 2022 4:36 pm

3 simple words, ain’t gonna happen!

Peace, L.

Yahsure
Yahsure
November 17, 2022 4:44 pm

I saw NATO expansion and the Americans Ukraine takeover in 2014 and have been oddly on the Russian’s side for a while now. they are fighting evil Nazi fuks and the NWO.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Yahsure
November 18, 2022 9:56 am

Sure looks that way.

World War Zeke
World War Zeke
November 17, 2022 4:49 pm

Poland owes Zelly an apology ASAP for being in the way of all those billions in donated weapons. Be more careful next time with your potato polka, Polska.

Chud Bentley
Chud Bentley
November 17, 2022 5:59 pm

Maybe China and Russia don’t have, “freedom” like people in the West had pre-1990s. But are they really worse than the USSA of today? If you don’t kiss the ring of globohomo you’ll never make it in corporate America. Refuse to bake a sodomite anal union cake and some lawyer will sue your business out of existence. Say, “nigger” on a Facebook post with your real name attached to the account and watch your employment opportunities disappear.

Say something in public like, “Jews control the media and the banks” and watch your bank accounts be closed and you become unpersoned.

Go to a presidential rally and trespass in a US Captital office while unarmed and they’ll brand you an insurrectionist, hold you indefinitely in jail, and suspend any due process. Big Tech tracks everything you say online, everything you buy, everything you search for, and everything you read on the internet. But hey, muh freedoms, right?

Meanwhile, Putin kicked out most of the oligarchs of Russia when the WEF/World Bank were offering to privatize and buy up Russia capital post USSR collapse. The Russians also steadfastly refuse to submit to neoliberal values of degeneracy. Also, Russia is for Russia first and and peaceful trade with willing partners. They don’t have 800 military installations around the globe. I know they’re not perfect but they’re also not an evil empire like the godless media portray them.

GW
GW
November 17, 2022 6:27 pm

I don’t imagine our East Asian competitors to be “barbarians”. In many ways their societies are superior to ours.

Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
November 17, 2022 9:22 pm

Before I read the article the question begging to be asked is why the Saker poses the question?
Shucks…couldn’t get thru the first half of this masturbatory feat.

awoke
awoke
November 17, 2022 9:39 pm

If the women don’t overthrow Iran first and the 120-100 sex ratio and lying flat doesn’t end China first either.

jocko
jocko
November 18, 2022 6:21 am

The US is already discussing a US Marshal Plan reconstruction of Ukraine. It seems they are thinking NATO will win.

Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
November 18, 2022 6:34 am

As long as we’re fantasizing, I like the one about a 70-something being in a poly/mono D/s relationship with 4 smokin’ hot 22 yr young ladies living on a megaya…………never mind.