Is AI Dangerous?

Guest Post by Martin Armstrong

Back in 2015, I addressed the concern then of Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk who were worried about what might happen as a result of advancements in Artificial Intelligence. They’re concerned that robots could grow so intelligent that they could independently decide to exterminate humans. Today, it has only gotten worse with GPT-4 open for everyone to try. In doing so, they are training the computer and expanding its knowledge base. Musk, with a gaggle of others, have penned a letter calling for a “pause” in AI development.

“Powerful AI systems should be developed only once we are confident that their effects will be positive and their risks will be manageable.”

I have tinkered with AI since the early 1970s. There is no doubt these guys are influenced by concepts like in the movies Terminator and the Matrix. But from a real-world programming side, to outdo human thinking is easy. A computer model can far surpass humans in so many ways. What we have done in finance is unparalleled, but the key here in our system was to ELIMINATE human emotion. Only in that matter has Socrates been able to beat human judgment which is always flawed.

We could create an AI that is better than any medical doctor for there to it is offering only an “opinion” which is not always correct. A computer that had the full database of diseases could sort out things in the blink of an eye. Indeed, I contracted a parasite that went into my left eye. I could feel it. The doctor would not listen, He sent me to some specialist for something else and I told him what the issue was. Only because the same thing happened to him, he called my doctor and said this guy has a parasite. He then sent me to an infectious disease specialist who in just 1 minute looked at my blood work and said yes, you have a parasite. To this day, I have lost some vision in my left eye because nobody would listen. If they never experienced it, they would not even think about it. A computer would not make that human mistake.

MATRIX-NeoWhat these guys are talking about is what I would call an open-ended AI system meaning it has no actual purpose. That is a black box and allowing a computer to develop into areas nobody has even thought about, could pose a danger more on the lines of the MATRIX or Terminator.  They wrote in their letter:

“This does not mean a pause on AI development in general, merely a stepping back from the dangerous race to ever-larger unpredictable black-box models with emergent capabilities.”

 

I am pretty good at programming. This is all conceptual design. In the case of Socrates, it is confined to the financial markets. It is not going to surf the web in search of the answer to what is the name of Lady GaGa’s dog. Socrates will not discover the cure for cancer. It does not have a medical database. The type of AI that they are talking about is limitless machine learning that can write its own code and go in directions that nobody thought about. Let’s start with a description of the actual real-use-case problem. Why would you even need such a program to go in directions that a human could not even imagine?

terminatorThe government does not want independent thought – they do not even want intelligent police for the same reason Stalin kill intellectuals. The government wants a mindless and emotionless drone. They want robot police and robot army who follow orders and will never hesitate. As I have stated, when the police and military no longer follow orders and side with the people, then revolutions take place. Those in power know that. Hence, they want robots who will control the mob, kill us when ordered, and for that, they do not need full unlimited AI that could also turn on the government.

The AI that is now unfolding with no direction and just letting it go and seeing what develops may be interesting for a lab experiment. But we must respect that there MUST be limitations. Socrates has beaten everyone, including me. But it is confined to this field. It has a purpose and no design would have ever allowed it to go off and explore other fields. There was no rationale to create such an open-ended machine learning system. It’s confined to the world economy, capital flows, weather, and geopolitical developments.

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32 Comments
Paleocon
Paleocon
April 3, 2023 7:17 am

AI’s ability to mine every byte of information on a person for government targeting is the real threat. AI is but a tool for corruptocrats.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
April 3, 2023 7:57 am

PEOPLE are dangerous. They built AI did they not?

It’s the “ready, fire, aim!” crowd that endangers us all. Never questioning their actions or decisions until AFTER the damage is done. To do this as consistently as it is done, it can NOT be attributed to stupidity. It can only be called what it is…evil.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
April 3, 2023 8:04 am

AI is a fairy tale. It does not exist. What you are seeing is just another form of what search engines do.

When it “writes” it simply regurgitates pre-written drivel composed by purple haired, gender confused fatties in some cubicle slowly dying of lonliness and toxoplasma gondii.

It amazes me that people continue to fall for the most ridiculous claims imaginable when everything in the world around them should convince them that everything is degrading and decaying. There hasn’t been anything new or improved in fifty years and in fact everything is slower, less efficient, poorly made, and ill maintained. The wheels are quite literally falling off the bus and the exact same cast of characters that convinced the proles to wear paper masks for years to fight a made up illness have managed to convince the same retards that AI is here.

I am thankful that I do not know anyone personally who is stupid enough to believe this nonsense, but it would appear that the gloom and doomers are still coming up short.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
April 3, 2023 8:08 am

As I said on another site, AI is computer programing. GIGO.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  hardscrabble farmer
April 3, 2023 8:43 am

So where do you stand on supernatural possession of inanimate objects? Possible or not?

How about the ghost in the machine phenomenon? Seemingly random binding of data bits not accounted for by existing OS parameters.

If you advance any experiment far enough, you’re going to get unexpected results.

Happens every time…and yet we’re always surprised.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  The Central Scrutinizer
April 3, 2023 9:22 am

There is nothing supernatural.

Everything in existence conforms to the laws of Nature, therefore if it occurs, it must be natural.

YMMV.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  hardscrabble farmer
April 3, 2023 9:53 am

Aren’t we glib and insincere this morning!

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  hardscrabble farmer
April 3, 2023 8:57 am

AI can do simple jobs that require access to data. Evergy is a huge electric company here in the Midwest. My cousin just took a buy out from them a few months ago. They use AI for clerical jobs and Evergy was able to lay off a lot of the lower paying jobs.

Other than that, I doubt it’s a threat to mankind.

BL
BL
  Mary Christine
April 3, 2023 9:21 am

Corporations lay off humans in lieu of AI, humans are the customers of corporations. Are they expecting a big die off humans or are they just greedy bastards? I’m going with big die off of humans and they want to guarantee continuity of services.

The threat to mankind is the vax and that’s a done deal.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  BL
April 3, 2023 9:36 am

Going to disagree somewhat. These corporations are laying off people where a program or robot can easily do their job, 24/7, never takes breaks, doesn’t ask for time off or expects raises in pay, doesn’t require pensions or workers comp. Its overall a huge bargain to replace people with machines and code and it increases their profits.

Customers will keep buying their shitty products regardless. In fact I’d wager that even those getting laid off and replaced, will still buy the companies shitty products.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  anon a moos
April 3, 2023 9:49 am

That’s not artificial intelligence, it’s automation.

But since every other word has been redefined I guess intelligence was going to have to change too.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  hardscrabble farmer
April 3, 2023 10:00 am

It is automation but its already being comixed and associated with AI.

Its happening not only on the production floorspace, robots, but also in the office as well. AI systems for answering calls, writing reports, analyzing trends, data bases etc and producing nice pie charts with no flavour.

Language is being co-opted and bastardized for a purpose.

BL
BL
  anon a moos
April 3, 2023 10:07 am

moos- If there is a big die off of humans, none of it matters anyway. The pirate class needing continuity has nothing to do with 99% of humanity.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  BL
April 3, 2023 10:16 am

Well BL the pirate class won’t dump your body overboard until they’ve searched every oriface and taken every last bit of wealth and flesh they can.

BL
BL
  anon a moos
April 3, 2023 2:13 pm

moos- What do you think they have been doing? They want it all and their messiah Rabbi Schneerson was not shy in saying so. They have never made it a secret.

Arrogance and Greed to the moon, until God jerks a daggone knot the size of Texas in their tail.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  anon a moos
April 3, 2023 10:16 am

AI systems for answering calls

And they suck, too. I always make them put a live agent on the phone. At least I think it’s live.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
April 3, 2023 9:44 pm

Good luck with that “getting a live agent on the phone” with Frontier Internet. I had it installed two weeks ago. I disconnected it that night and reconnected the one I had. I’ve tried at least twenty different numbers to try and speak to a person. Not gonna happen. The only person you can get is the one selling the service. Even the guy who hooked it up wouldn’t give me a number. They just informed me today that my first bill is due. Don’t get Frontier.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  BL
April 3, 2023 10:14 am

Are they expecting a big die off humans or are they just greedy bastards? I’m going with big die off of humans and they want to guarantee continuity of services.

I’m going with greedy. I don’t believe a lot of these corporations had any idea how bad the vax would be.

My cousin was a business analyst which is sort of a catch all term. She had a much younger replacement she had to train and her replacement could not understand how she got all of her job done. I’m betting that is going to be a big problem soon, especially because so many younger people got sick or died from the injection.

BL
BL
  Mary Christine
April 3, 2023 10:19 am

Mary- remember some years back when there was a story about some high level HR expert tasked with solutions to dealing with the loss of 67% of the work force?

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  BL
April 3, 2023 10:34 am

No, I missed that one. But AI will not replace anything but low level jobs. And maybe lawyers…lol!

B_MC
B_MC
  BL
April 3, 2023 12:33 pm

A recruiter for oil and gas corporations recently gave an ominous warning on Tik Tok, claiming that these big companies are mysteriously preparing to replace their vaccinated employees within three years.

https://www.newswars.com/corporate-recruiter-warns-energy-companies-to-replace-vaccinated-employees-within-3-years/

flash
flash
April 3, 2023 9:15 am

Only for stupid people, which sadly is most everyone.

anon a moos
anon a moos
April 3, 2023 9:20 am

There is zero intelligence in AI, There are some cleverly written code to make you think its intelligent but its really just a glorified cut’n paste program. The meat behind it is the vast amount of information it can very quickly sift thru. Remove that information and what do you have?? nada.

Guest
Guest
April 3, 2023 9:54 am

The real danger of AI seems to be in its use. For instance in medicine diagnosis and treatment by AI generated protocols. Also predictions by the computer models that are taken as fact, etc. and then action taken. Computer models of Smart Cities that sound good on paper but are totalitarian. That sort of thing.
Averages, data, information are not real people.

Larry Maier
Larry Maier
April 3, 2023 9:58 am

Whether open-ended or specific, AI development poses a threat to mankind. Every country wants mechanical soldiers who can kill efficiently without creating the nuisance of having to give out gold stars that can turn future cannon fodder against a war. Any machine that can kill of its own volition can eventually go rogue and kill whomever it pleases, including its maker. The talk about limiting AI development is nice, but vacuous. There will always be one bad actor who will continue his country’s development to gain a power advantage. All other nations will have to participate so as not to be rendered defenseless. Just as we had a nuclear arms race, we are at the beginning of a military AI race. Until all major nations decide it is in their own best interests to jointly ban militarized AI (including police AI) the race will continued. At this point their is no way China will ban such development and simultaneously no way we can.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Larry Maier
April 3, 2023 10:17 am

Any machine that can kill of its own volition can eventually go rogue and kill whomever it pleases, including its maker.

Science fiction until I see it for myself. AI is not sentient and it never will be sentient. Robots can and will fail.

Dangerous Variant
Dangerous Variant
April 3, 2023 10:15 am

Seems all this “AI” is dangerous press is some kind of priming to get us to associate “AI” with a threat (event) and then of course the government as our protector.

I think the TikTok China theatrics is modeled similarly. No, the problem isn’t 10 y/o girls selling themselves on tiktok or the pocket moloch wiring kids brains to be addicted sociopathic retards, its that chiners might get the precious data along with google, apple, NSA, CIA, etc. Its bi-partisan!

Patriot Act on repeat.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
April 3, 2023 11:40 am

Sometimes you are right on. But other times you are delusional. Martin is as real as it gets. He did 7 years jail for Civil Contempt. That is as real as it gets. The government went after him as he is a powerful person who tells the truth.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 3, 2023 1:43 pm

AI is a sales pitch for transhumanism.

If:
AI = Awesome

Then:
Me + AI = Awesomer

Therefore:
Run out and get your chip!!!

BL
BL
  Anonymous
April 3, 2023 2:16 pm

OK Borg boi. reeeeeeeeee

Eddy O
Eddy O
April 3, 2023 2:33 pm

I thought AI meant Artificial Idiots.

WilliamtheResolute
WilliamtheResolute
April 3, 2023 10:42 pm

“Is AI dangerous?”…only if you’re human…