If It Was Allowed, I’d Hold You Down and…

Guest Post by Edward Curtin

I think it is generally accepted that the practice of medicine has changed radically over the past fifty or so years.  The medicalization and corporatization of life have “progressed” simultaneously as most doctors have become obedient servants of the corporate state.

But wait, one may object, and with some justification.

The development of micro-surgical techniques has significantly improved the methods of many operations that were formally very invasive and posed a great risk to the elderly and chronically sick.  Many people have had knee, hip, and heart  surgeries – to name a few – that would have been problematic or impossible in the past.  Body part replacements are now common.

Soon everyone will be half-mechanical on the way to full robotization with a bit of pig and cow thrown in for good measure.  Whether this is good is debatable on many levels, but the “procedures” (a word that seems to have replaced the more gruesome sounding words “operations” or “surgeries”) have clearly become more efficient and less invasive.  These micro-surgical techniques have surely saved lives and improved the quality of life for many.

So much for the technology. I have a little medical tale to tell.

My best friend, an athletic man in his mid-seventies in excellent health and athletic shape, went to a new doctor at a medical practice since his doctor of thirty-five years had retired.  The visit was for an annual physical that was required under the practice’s rules.  He had previously met this doctor for a required brief meet-and-greet introduction and all seemed copacetic.

This time, he was ushered into the examination room where he sat and waited for the doctor.   A nurse took his blood pressure and pulse and departed.  The doctor soon arrived with an iPad and sat down next to him.  He put the man’s records up on the screen.  He then proceeded to review a list of inoculations my friend did or didn’t have.  My friend – let’s call him Joe – has always been a guy who took very little medicine and was rarely sick; at the most he would take an aspirin or a few ibuprofen after a vigorous workout.

“I see you had a tetanus shot,” said the doctor.

“Yes, after I cut my hand.”

And at your age it’s good you had a pneumonia vaccine.”

“I did,” said Joe, “but I kind of regret it.”

“Oh no, at your age you are at great risk from dying from pneumonia,” replied the doctor.  He added, “And you haven’t had your shingles vaccination, which I highly recommend.  It’s covered by Medicare now.  You don’t want to get shingles; it’s terrifying.”

Joe said nothing.

“And you are due for a flu vaccine.”

“I never had one and never will,” said Joe.

“At your age you can die from the flu.  It’s very dangerous.  I definitely recommend you get it.”

“No thanks.”

“You really should.”

His voice rising, the doctor said, “And I see you have not gotten any Covid vaccines. You are really risking your life by not doing so.  You must get them.”

Joe then succinctly explained his deep knowledge about Covid, the “vaccines,” their lack of testing, the mRNA technique, the deaths and injuries, etc. – all the reasons he opposed them.

The doctor became agitated.  He argued back; explained how he had gone to Yale and studied the mRNA process under Drs F Teufelmeister and AE Newman and that he knew the vaccines were very safe and effective blah blah blah.

Joe said, “It doesn’t matter that you went to Yale.  I emphatically disagree.”

This incensed the doctor, who blurted out, “If it was allowed, I would hold you down and inject you right now.”

“Is that so?” said Joe, incredulous.

The annual physical ended soon thereafter.

The doctor never laid a hand on Joe to examine him.  No stethoscope; no ear, throat or nose checks; no hands on any part of his body – the exam was exclusively about vaccinations, read off a screen.  Technical in all regards.  All about how Joe was so very vulnerable and could die without them. The doctor was Big Pharma’s mouthpiece.  Death threats devoid of any human touch, cold and sterile, and a wish that he could hold Joe down and forcibly inject him, the touch of the fascist mind expressed in a wish.

When Joe told me this story, I, being a student of the sociology of medicine, was reminded of the history of eugenics and the sick minds of people who think they can cull the herd because of their power and prestige. The sordid history that continues under euphemisms such as genetic research.

Here was a doctor who dared to say what others no doubt think as well: “I would hold you down and inject you right now,” if only I could.  But since he can’t, the state must find other ways to coerce, such as compulsory medical requirements.

Such are totalitarian dreams made of, when death has become a commodity used to sell the dreams of reason, and the healer’s art, once linked to working with nature, has become an adjunct of state propaganda.

When I later met Joe at the coffeeshop, I brought him my copy of Ivan Illich’s Medical Nemesis: The Expropriation of Health, one of the great books of modern times.

Thumbing through it, Joe came to a page where I had underlined the following:

The ritualization of crisis, a general trait of a morbid society, does three things for the medical functionary.  It provides him with a license that usually only the military can claim. Under the stress of crisis, the professional who is believed to be in command can easily presume immunity from the ordinary rules of decency and justice. He who is assigned control over death ceases to be an ordinary human. As with the director of a triage, his killing is covered by policy. More important, his entire performance takes place in an aura of crisis.

On my way home I stopped to pick up my sister’s mail. The AARP Bulletin was in the box with her letters. This is one of two publications of the AARP organization, a powerful lobbying group and medical insurance company with 38 million members for people fifty years-old and over. The AARP Bulletin and AARP The Magazine are the largest circulation publications in the United States with a combined distribution of approximately 67 million.

The cover story on The AARP Bulletin is:

How To Stay Safe This Summer

Extreme Weather   Covid Concerns   Tick-Borne Diseases   Bad Drivers   Food Poisoning   Home-Repair Rip-offs   Crazy Utility Bills

Is there anything not to fear in this morbid culture where crises are promoted faster than the therapeutic and hygienic “remedies” offered to deal with them?  Create the diseases and all the bogeymen and then offer pseudo-solutions straight from the sorcerer’s playbook.

Build the fear and they will come, knocking at the sorcerers’ doors.

If it were allowed, I would lift you up with a simple truth.

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44 Comments
Obbledy
Obbledy
June 18, 2023 6:50 am

Right!?!……I’m afraid you tapped into something else……
The very Idea he would forcibly inject you means he is NOT A DOCTOR!…..I think what was exposed is an underlying idea that FORCING people is acceptable…..were talking about generationS that have been led about by the nose since kindergarten….not only think it’s ok to FORCE people to do whatever,they really are UNABLE to understand your objection to it!…..and then add arrogance to ignorance…..

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Obbledy
June 18, 2023 11:20 am

Something else occured to me recently:

By definition, those doctors who choose Infectious Diseases as a medical specialty are the ones that will put the group ahead of the individual. They worship public health and abhor individual choice. They were the perfect accomplices to the crime. They also tend to have a phobia of germs, which, as I have written before, is like a vegetarian who doesn’t want an animal to die so he can eat it becoming a butcher.

At the essence, every physician should be first and foremost a nutritionist.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Svarga Loka
June 18, 2023 2:52 pm

Four of us brothers out of 11 children take no medications and did not vax. We’re all in perfect health. through exercise, good nutrition, and supplements. Two are in the 70’s, and I’m almost 65, and I feel great every single day.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Svarga Loka
June 18, 2023 11:07 pm

The same for “evidence based medicine”.
There are “goals” or “targets” for the doctors practice. Meet the goal, get the money $. Vaccines are one of many.
It is irrelevant what is best for you, or what reason you can in for in the first place. Remember this. Your life depends on understanding it.
Refusers are seen at best as turds in their punch bowls. Usually much worse. No tactic is beneath them to compel your compliance.
YOU have to care about YOUR life, because that doctor doesn’t.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Obbledy
June 18, 2023 2:01 pm

Doctors have gone from “First, do no harm” to “First, push new pharmaceuticals”.

BB
BB
  TN Patriot
June 18, 2023 3:04 pm

Well, everything but pain medicine. It’s okay to give you the vax, which can and has a good chance to killing you, but we woudn’t want you to become dependant on them when you are almost eighty.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  BB
June 18, 2023 7:21 pm

Even pain meds. For moderate pain ( toothache, sprained ankle, hip replacement, C-section), you get opiates, no problem. All because we are a nation of pussies who request the pain to be all gone rather than to take it down a notch from excruciating to bearable.

flash
flash
June 18, 2023 7:20 am

“The doctor never laid a hand on Joe to examine him. No stethoscope; no ear, throat or nose checks; no hands on any part of his body – the exam was exclusively about vaccinations”

Yep, recently had this experience with a new doctor. My last one died at 44 with a heart attack…physician heal thyself…lol

Suffice to say, it ended abruptly with me explaining to the trained weasel how he was a ” fucking asshole” and me being escorted from the building. I am presently undoctored and likely to stay that way for the duration.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  flash
June 18, 2023 2:27 pm

Nice. Last Doctor I went to. First time at this Doctor, and he gave me a lengthy interview. I said I don’t drink, smoke, or go to Doctors. But since I’m on a roll, I might do all three today. It was quite the eye roll. He tried to talk me into some high blood pressure medication. I told him I did a 30 mile hike with over 7,000 feet elevation gain for a day hike, 14 hours, last week. I said I don’t think I need them. He said if you can hike like that you probably don’t. A good regime of exercise, good nutritional food, and supplements, and Doctors become unneeded. Two of my bothers are in the 70’s and do the same, and they are never sick and never go to the Doctor. Now the rest of the family is well medicated and vaxxed, of course.

Sirhan Wrap
Sirhan Wrap
  AKJOHN
June 19, 2023 6:17 pm

I am fortunate in that my GP actually listens and respects my decisions. He may disagree and tell me why, but it ends there, and he is good-natured about it. I even told him about a blood test that was 98%+ accurate for early colon cancer detection rather than a colonoscopy. He had never heard of it, ordered it for me and thanked me for giving him that info. He can read my chart: no immunizations whatsoever in 17 years and I rarely get more than sniffles for a day and then gone.

One area of preparation frequently overlooked is antibiotics. I have generated my own colloidal silver for many years and use it for everything from a stye to cuts, and general disinfectant. If the SHTF, we will soon be out of all the “miracle” antibiotics that stave off infection. Get a good colloidal silver generator, lots and lots of high quality steam distilled water in storage and be prepared for when you will have no other way to keep an infection from killing you or your loved ones.

I’ve used this generator for years, have had four of them, three still working. I bought the silver wire when silver was $4 oz so that will be more expensive now, but still cheaper than most drugs. Don’t forget you’ll need a way to generate electricity too, but you probably have that covered already.

James the Deplorable Wanderer
James the Deplorable Wanderer
  Sirhan Wrap
June 20, 2023 8:30 pm

Mine is powered by two six-volt batteries, probably cost around $10 new, and I have a coil of .999 silver wire. It will generate between 10-20 ppm Ag of unknown nanometers and I usually let it run about ten – fifteen minutes in 8 oz pure water. Yours MAY work better, but I have been using it for years as well and so far, I’m still here and usually uninfected.

Just Sayin'
Just Sayin'
June 18, 2023 7:44 am

Found me a doctor who left a large prestigious cardiac “practice” to start his own private practice. He doesn’t accept any insurance, but he focuses on natural supplements, diet (whole foods), and exercise. Was spending $600/mo on meds, taking a handful twice a day. Now? Well weight is under control, insulin resistance improvement, and meds almost gone. I expect to be med free in a year.

Just’ Sayin

Just Sayin'
Just Sayin'
  Just Sayin'
June 18, 2023 7:46 am

Oh, out of pocket costs are less than an affiliated doctor, and he has so many patients that he’s no longer accepting new ones. I see him when he has an opening, which works for.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Just Sayin'
June 18, 2023 2:32 pm

Many congrats. SILaw had big time heart problems. She started taking the vitamins and health products my brother and I have been taking for 30 years or so. They go back to the Doctor in a few months. Her Doctor says. Your doing great, asks my bother what’s going on? She’s finally taking the supplements I have been trying to give her for 30 years. Doctor tells my brother. They usually just die. SIL looks better than she did 15 years ago.

zappalives
zappalives
June 18, 2023 8:26 am

If it was allowed…………………..I would shoot you in the face !

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  zappalives
June 18, 2023 9:51 am

My very first thought!

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  zappalives
June 18, 2023 11:17 am

The trouble is that the double standard kicks in here, big time: if he holds you down and gives you the jab, he’s got no liability — civil or criminal (unless you did a live YT feed of his jabbing you to death) … but you’d go to jail in less than the time it takes to blink if you even looked at him cross-eyed.

And heaven help you if that ‘he’ is either a ‘she’ or a tranny … then it’s capital punishment for you …

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 18, 2023 9:03 am

Hmmm Yale doctor? 99% this guy’s a Jew. Reminds me of that once famous doctor from the 30’s and 40’s that prompted the axiom “Never Forget”. I haven’t forgotten but as is well documented in the OT, Jewish people have the shortest memories of the entire human race. I used to think it was a good practice to write and rewrite the bible over and over again. But now I think they do this because these fuckers can’t remember shit! Lest anyone doubt me, read 2 CHRONICLES 34:14 where Hilkiah found the book of the Law of the Lord given by Moses that they all had completely forgotten. I would write a whole book about their bad memories but someone beat me to it.

J Far
J Far
  Anonymous
June 18, 2023 12:36 pm

My eye surgeon went to Yale, he’s not Jewish, and thanks to him I didn’t go blind in my left eye. Look forward to a more intelligent comment from you in the future.

falconflight
falconflight
  Anonymous
June 18, 2023 2:14 pm

In the last 15 years, the percentage of Jewish students in the Ivy league has dramatically dropped to mid single digits. Moslem, African, and Southwest Asians should make you feel moaR comfortable, right?

WilliamtheResolute
WilliamtheResolute
June 18, 2023 9:07 am

I would have had some strong words with Dr. Mengele…I had a similar discussion with my doctor a few years ago and informed him I wouldn’t be taking his advice, that I expected my doctor to be smarter than I am…as I exited the room in search of a new doctor.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  WilliamtheResolute
June 19, 2023 7:43 pm

Dr Mengele was not who he has been made out to be by the propagandists.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
June 18, 2023 9:50 am

Sorcerers? Please! They’re mere conjurers at best…heavy on the “CON”.

Guest
Guest
June 18, 2023 10:06 am

Worse than these are doctors who know better (or suspect) but still gave the vaxxx, or even did not speak out about it.
However I think many doctors, who are good people, are just plain ignorant which isn’t good in a doctor (or president).

Eud
Eud
June 18, 2023 11:10 am

The conversation:

D “I see you haven’t had all your vaccinations”

P “Hmm, you are correct. If you have all of them onsite, have them all brought in.
But only you and I can be in the room when you do the injections.”

D “um..Ok. Nurse bring in a complete series of all vaxxes.”

Nurse bring them all in with fresh syringes, then leaves.

P pulls out gun: “roll up your sleave doc, your getting inoculated. These are safe, correct?”

D shits pants.

-End scene.

BB
BB
  Eud
June 18, 2023 3:10 pm

You can’t do that. They have a sign on the building that says “no guns”.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  BB
June 18, 2023 3:40 pm

They’ve had laws on the books for thousands of years prohibiting all sorts of things … so why should this matter?

Barry Berkmann-Block
Barry Berkmann-Block
  BB
June 18, 2023 11:56 pm

Syringe=gun

B_MC
B_MC
June 18, 2023 11:16 am

AMA Pledges to Ramp up Work With Activists to Push Irreversible ‘Sex Change’ Mutilation of Children

The American Medical Association (AMA) has all but flushed the Hippocratic Oath down the toilet with its pledge to ramp up its support for (pick one, or more): “cross-sex medical interventions,” “gender-affirming care,” “sex-change operations,” or the irreversible mutilation of children’s bodies.

The AMA’s House of Delegates passed a resolution on Monday in support of “gender-affirming care” for “youths with gender identity issues,” according to the Endocrine Society, the sponsor of the resolution. In a press release titled “AMA strengthens its policy on protecting access to gender-affirming care,” the organization said:

As political attacks on gender-affirming care escalate, it is the responsibility of the medical community to speak out in support of evidence-based care. Medical decisions should be made by patients, their relatives and health care providers, not politicians.

In the resolution, the AMA committed to opposing any criminal and legal penalties against patients seeking gender-affirming care, family members or guardians who support them in seeking medical care, and health care facilities and clinicians who provide gender-affirming care.

The AMA will work at the federal and state level with legislators and regulators to oppose such policies and collaborate with other organizations to educate the Federation of State Medical Boards about the importance of gender-affirming care.

https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2023/06/17/ama-pledges-to-ramp-up-work-with-activists-to-push-irreversible-sex-change-mutilation-of-children-n763047

Eud
Eud
  B_MC
June 18, 2023 11:30 am

Well then, it’s easy….
If one remains a member in good standing of an organization [AMA] promoting the mutilation of children, one is a supporter of child mutilation and is not nice.
If one remains a member in good standing of an organization [AMA] that just successfully poisoned 230,000,000 Americans, one is also not nice.

73amxman
73amxman
June 18, 2023 1:50 pm

“This is one of two publications of the AARP organization, a powerful lobbying group and medical insurance company with 38 million members for people fifty years-old and over. The AARP Bulletin and AARP The Magazine are the largest circulation publications in the United States with a combined distribution of approximately 67 million.”

I utterly detest and despise the AARP. If those bastards paid me to join them I’d refuse. I keep receiving flyers from the AARP to join so I always tear them up and mail it back to them. I even called the SOB’s telling them to take me off their mailing list but to no avail. I know they were very instrumental in helping get Obamacare put into law. Like most other lobbying groups, they’re in it for the money and in this case fearmongering.

Splitter
Splitter
  73amxman
June 18, 2023 2:04 pm

Cancel all your dot government adhesion contracts* and your mail will drop to just people you know or do business with.

Dot gov has been selling your personal data since day one.

*Licenses, permits, contracts, jobs.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  73amxman
June 18, 2023 2:05 pm

Just another democrat fund raising organization.

falconflight
falconflight
  73amxman
June 18, 2023 2:11 pm

Sometimes I’ll send back the inserts if they provide return postage.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  falconflight
June 18, 2023 2:29 pm

A friend who used to cast bullets would take a sheet of lead and put it in the return postage envelopes from people he did not like, which is a lot of people.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  falconflight
June 18, 2023 7:05 pm

I used to see how full I could make those envelopes. Slick magazine paper tended to be heavier than the paper they sent, so I would use the paper cutter to make stacks of it that fit their envelopes. Capital One probably got 10# of scrap paper sent back on their dime.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
June 18, 2023 1:59 pm

My annual “wellness Exam” has more questions about my lifestyle than it does medical personnel checking my health. The only reason I do it is for the blood analysis. I keep a log of them to see what might be changing. This is advice from an old friend who has a BSN and is pretty grounded.

falconflight
falconflight
  TN Patriot
June 18, 2023 2:10 pm

When asked, I now tell em I’m jabbed. When asked how many times, I tell em “three or four times, I don’t remember.” GIGO is a reasonable tactic of ours as well.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  TN Patriot
June 18, 2023 3:43 pm

Unfortunately for US, those electronic health records that President Trump’s predecessor forced upon the medical cartel as part of the ACA are now going to be part and parcel of all of those ‘vaccine passports’ that the WHO is engaged in mandating globally …

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
June 18, 2023 2:15 pm

If a Doctor said that to me I would put my elbow in his face and terminate the meeting. Was in AARP for year. Magazine was pure propaganda.

zappalives
zappalives
  AKJOHN
June 18, 2023 2:26 pm

Piece of shit AARP……………………….an insurance company scamming old people for shekels.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  zappalives
June 18, 2023 3:29 pm

The articles are us seniors are all the victims; plus the drug pushing.

DFJ150
DFJ150
June 18, 2023 3:15 pm

As a retired surgeon, I am horrified how so many MDs have prostituted themselves to big pharma. This physician should lose his license and be prosecuted for verbal threat/assault. As a resident, I did several rotations at Yale and saw the seamy underbelly of what passes for “medical care” there. I would let family and friends go untreated before subjecting them to the tender ministrations of the physicians and residents working there.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  DFJ150
June 18, 2023 3:30 pm

Many blessings to you. We know there are good Doctors out there. Just getting harder to find.