TIME TO MOVE TO ARGENTINA?

Via ZeroHedge

Argentina Devalues Peso, Hikes Rates After Libertarian Outsider’s Shock Win In Presidential Primary

The Argentine peso, already at historic lows, puked immediately after far-right political outsider Javier Milei won the country’s primary election on Sunday. He wants a dramatic overhaul of the country’s entire political and economic system, even vowing to ditch the peso.

Milei is a rock-singing libertarian outsider candidate, an admirer of Donald Trump and self-described anarcho-capitalist, and his primary win headed into the October general election is being widely viewed as punishment for Argentina’s two main political establishment blocs – the center-left Peronist coalition and the main Together for Change conservative opposition bloc.

Javier Milei, via the Observador

 

After winning 30% of the vote, beating the main conservative opposition bloc (at 28%) and the ruling Peronist coalition which came in third place, it’s being hailed in Argentine media as a “political earthquake”.

The 52-year old Milei might also be called the Ron Paul of Argentine politics, given his willingness to controversially raze entire longstanding institutions, including pledges to abolish Argentina’s central bank. He has also talked about replacing the peso with the US dollar and privatizing state-run firms.

Multiple administrations have overseen a years-long spiral into a persisting economic crisis, with year-on-year inflation above 115%, and one in four people living in poverty. The peso has in recent months plummeted such that foreign soccer fans now regularly taunt locals at matches by burning and ripping up the Argentine currency.

Milei’s win, which is being taken as a clear sign of what lies in store for the Oct.22 election, is voters’ attempt to “shock” the system and try something new.

The peso’s plummet prompted the Argentine central bank to hike rates (to 118%!) and devalue the official peso rate to 350/USD in an effort to reassure markets and to prevent a broader selloff of assets from spreading. It hasn’t worked yet as the peso plunge continued and a US-traded Argentina ETF plunges most since March 2020.

Bloomberg reports Monday, the government’s moves is “a drastic policy shift as it runs out of funds to defend its currency.”

However, the official rate remains dramatically deocoupled from the reality of perceived value on the street, with the so-called ‘blue dolar’ trading at almost 600/USD

His ultra anti-establishment views will continue to have ripple effects. Bloomberg Economics economist Adriana Dupita previews more of the uncertainty ahead based on the central bank’s latest actions:

If the past is any guide, a sharp peso depreciation would definitely add some inflationary pressure but not sufficient to tip the country into hyperinflation. We estimate that a 25% depreciation of the peso could add some 8 percentage points to the year-over-year CPI one year after it happens — on top of what inflation would be with the currency stable, in real terms. Most of the impact would happen in the first month after the currency shock.

That pressure is relevant but not sufficient per se to trigger an inflation spiral. The rise in interest rates announced by the BCRA helps mitigating the hyperinflation risk, but the problem is that the devaluation is happening in a moment when fiscal policy is lax and amid expectations of new rounds of depreciation — illustrated by the plunge in dollar blue, and fueled by the prospect of a dollarization in case Milei wins. That renders the impact of the devaluation on prices a lot more uncertain.

Milei had told supporters on Sunday that “we have managed to build this competitive alternative that will put an end to the parasitic, thieving, useless political caste.”

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67 Comments
Warren
Warren
August 14, 2023 11:57 am

No problama, Samantha Power and Victoria Nuland will be flying to Argentina in 3….2…1.
The only question is what color will they use this time to describe the “revolution”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Warren
August 14, 2023 5:07 pm

Red!

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 6:58 pm

More like black and red (with just a splash of white to confuse the sheep). Nazis are like cockroaches. You’ll never kill them all…but you don’t HAVE to live with them.

Eud
Eud
  The Central Scrutinizer
August 16, 2023 12:21 am

I thought they pushed their chips all in on black?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
August 14, 2023 12:06 pm

One man cannot fix a fundamentally decimated nation. The US/CIA/Deep State will assassinate him the minute he upsets the “money men/tribe” with budget cuts or sound economic actions that undermine their inflation-based wealth transfer programs. After 80 years of Peron-style socialism, the people need to throw EVERYONE out of office and that is NOT going to happen. When there are stories of hundreds of like-minded folks ALSO doing well in the polls then maybe we can think there might be hope. But everyone always runs to the arms of the devil they know when the shit hits the fan. No doubt the Deep State is preparing a shit package for delivery to a large Argentinian fan as we speak.

CCRider
CCRider
  MrLiberty
August 14, 2023 12:11 pm

I agree Mr L but I still this is a very encouraging development. It’s another blow to the ‘liberal world order’. Doug Casey has property in Argentina. It will be interesting to get his take.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  CCRider
August 14, 2023 1:53 pm

You’re both right.

Sudetenland
Sudetenland
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 2:33 pm

i think they are both wrong.
look at the twitter video. i dont understand a single word he says, but he looks like a fkng actor.
and then there is this:
“…including pledges to abolish Argentina’s central bank. He has also talked about replacing the peso with the US dollar and privatizing state-run firms.”
hello??? promoted as an outsider, but nothing more than a see aye ey plant selling out argentinian and their resources for pennys on the dollar to the cabal.

Mountain Rat
Mountain Rat
  Sudetenland
August 14, 2023 3:16 pm

My first thought. Just another actor.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 7:03 pm

…and oh so wrong. It’s a matter of morality versus venality.

We ALL get exactly what we ask for. Be cautious in your prayers. They might just get answered.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  CCRider
August 14, 2023 3:18 pm

Don’t get me wrong. I applaud anyone and everyone that promotes liberty and condemns government and its fiat money. But of course a switch to the criminal dollar is no solution, and until the people are calling for serious change, nothing will.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  MrLiberty
August 14, 2023 7:04 pm

Live like it’s 31 A.D.

Follow The Leader!

Col James Steele
Col James Steele
  CCRider
August 15, 2023 8:58 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_War

By the 1980s, economic collapse, public discontent, and the disastrous handling of the Falklands War, resulted in the end of the Junta and the restoration of democracy in Argentina, effectively ending the Dirty War. Many members of the junta are currently in prison for crimes against humanity and genocide.[23][24] The Dirty War left a profound impact on Argentine culture, which is still felt to this day.

The junta, calling itself the National Reorganization Process, organized and carried out strong repression of political dissidents (or perceived as such) through the government’s military and security forces. They were responsible for the arrest, torture, killings and/or forced disappearances of an estimated 9,000 to 30,000 people.[28][12][10] With the help of Washington,[29] the junta was aided with $50 million in military aid.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
August 14, 2023 1:05 pm

Does anyone else see the shift in tone, messaging, and language in articles from both ZH and RT?
They are increasingly mimicking the wording and underlying narrative of the MSM.
When alternative news sources get a big enough following, they want to get bigger still and decide that the way to do so is to adopt a more leftist-statist attitude. To cease being “alternative”.

Sudetenland
Sudetenland
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 2:22 pm

zh has gone down the toilet after the google fiasco a couple of years ago.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Sudetenland
August 14, 2023 8:08 pm

It started in the toilet. Where can you hope to go from there?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 2:44 pm

Exactly. Since when are anarcho-capitalists “far right”?

The right supports Monarchy…that is, centralized, unlimited state control. The left supports a Republic—dispersed, limited governance.

By definition libertarians are far left. But hey, control the language, control the narrative.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 2:50 pm

Anarcho-capitalists are almost always personally and culturally conservative and reactionary. They are not libertines, but libertarians. Libertarians oppose the initiation of aggression, while retaining the right to lethally oppose aggression by others.

The only societal cohort that truly supports the right to say no, is libertarians. Not all who claim the name are in fact libertarian, as many who claim to be moral are nothing of the sort. Wolf in sheep’s clothing, and all that.

falconflight
falconflight
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 3:58 pm

There is a broad spectrum of self proclaimed libertarians who really aren’t, but I get your point.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 2:56 pm

The left-right paradigm is DEAD. There is left and right, but there is also libertarian versus authoritarian. Libertarians stand ABOVE the left-right dichotomy, in opposition to all authoritarianism of either the left or right.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
August 14, 2023 4:14 pm

Thanks for all the DVs. Proves my point that I triggered a bunch of people who probably agree with me on most issues because I used words in their original sense, that have since been hijacked to subvert their philosophical potential.

The right-left paradigm was invented by the French Parliament during their revolution. Monarchists sat on the right, Republicans on the left. This is the classical political spectrum. To the right more state control, to the left more individual freedom. By this standard everything more intrusive than a benign monarchy would be far-right. This includes fascism, communism, socialism, and modern “democracies.”

In modern times this paradigm has been (intentionally) conflated with the spectrum of social morality. “Conservatives” are supposedly traditional and “Liberals” supposedly non-conformist. This is why people spout meaningless garbage like “I’m politically conservative, but socially liberal!”

MrL, the problem with your diagram is that both axes are depicting the same thing: the degree of government interference with individual decisions. And this, in my mind, is the only political spectrum that matters: Totalitarian statists are one extreme and anarchic individualists are the other.

The modern “political discourse” is full of false paradigms designed to keep the plebs arguing over different shades of gray. Take your words back and don’t use vernacular of the revisionists.

We all want progress. But progress means getting nearer to the place where you want to be. And if you have taken a wrong turning then to go forward does not get you any nearer. If you are on the wrong road progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man. There is nothing progressive about being pig-headed and refusing to admit a mistake. And I think if you look at the present state of the world it’s pretty plain that humanity has been making some big mistake. We’re on the wrong road. And if that is so we must go back. Going back is the quickest way on.

-C.S Lewis

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 6:21 pm

Well, ignore my comment from two minutes ago. You have clarified things. I tried to edit it, but it said I could no longer edit.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 7:10 pm

I also have noticed the shortened time limit on edits. Thankfully, I still have no “regerts”! I stand by everything I’ve ever said…and why would I not? I’ll have to justify it all before GOD soon enough!

august
august
  The Central Scrutinizer
August 15, 2023 3:00 pm

Fortunately for most of us, it’s not really important what libertarians think, say or do.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
August 14, 2023 6:18 pm

Personal freedom is economic freedom and economic freedom is personal freedom.
Your diagram pretends they can be separated.

Economic independence is the foundation of the only sort of freedom worth a damn. — H.L. Mencken

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 7:11 pm

…In THIS life, anyway.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 9:12 pm

Its just a model for representation of the Nolan Chart. It pairs typically with questions (world’s smallest political quiz) that get people answering questions regarding personal liberty issues and economic liberty issues. Indeed, they CANNOT be separated, but sadly, most people DO put them in different categories. That is how they end up “liberal” or “conservative.” The lines are just to define general categories of how most folks see themselves, NOT hard lines of demarcation. Again, they are based on scores of a political questionaire.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
August 14, 2023 7:11 pm

That diagram can’t be correct nowadays because it doesn’t show the batshit crazy anywhere in there.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 8:00 pm

It’s a fag diagram. Venn knew overlap is inevitable. That douchebag wants to pretend it doesn’t. Look at all those nice, clean delineations! No overlap at all.

k31
k31
  MrLiberty
August 14, 2023 7:56 pm

Libertarians stand on the shoulders of other retards.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 6:13 pm

How do you define left and right. Left and right of what? Is there a metric and a scale?

Only one I’ve heard of makes sense, where left and right are a spectrum defined by the amount of government power and control.

How are you defining them and on what basis?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 6:22 pm

I am the center. (says everybody)

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 7:16 pm

Like you know “everybody”. Dip shit. I WALK ALONE!

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 7:12 pm

How do you define left and right

Those I wish to kill versus those I don’t.

It’s simple, really.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 7:06 pm

Go fuck yourself, idiot! You’re so mind screwed you might as well shoot yourself!

falconflight
falconflight
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 3:49 pm

ZH did have a gaggle putsch in 2020. I think RT is making some effort to avoid appearing to be a straight up Kremlin mouthpiece. I think RT is generally more neutral than our media narrative readers.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  falconflight
August 14, 2023 7:48 pm

Ain’t it a shame when you have to trust the Commies?

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 8:07 pm

DK
DC
DGAF

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
August 14, 2023 12:45 pm

People speaking for and representing Freedom is always good. Getting rid of central banks and putting criminals behind bars is even better.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  AKJOHN
August 14, 2023 7:22 pm

Blow it out yer ass, you hollow poser. I’ll do you the courtesy of not calling you a bot…you fake and gay fag.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  The Central Scrutinizer
August 14, 2023 8:40 pm

Your an obnoxious ANON posing as TCS. Insults and slander roll off of me like water from a rubber tree plant.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  AKJOHN
August 15, 2023 12:24 am

Your insults roll off me faster than I roll off your wife, cuck. 1,2,3,4…you declared a flame war. We’re on like donkey kong. Bring on your half wit!

It’ll be a funny diversion from your mundane shit. Hey! That rhymed!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !

Also? I think you just mind fucked yourself. Good job!

B_MC
B_MC
August 14, 2023 1:12 pm

Meanwhile, in Africa….

Burkina Faso & Mali Reps Arrive in Niger: We Won’t Accept Repeat of NATO’s Libya Adventure

Delegations from Mali and Burkina Faso have arrived in Niger to reaffirm support for the new gov’t against outside military intervention.

Mali’s spokesperson declared “Our survival depends on it,” recalling NATO’s “adventure in Libya” that created a decade of regional instability…

Approximately 30,000 people gathered in Niger’s capital of Niamey on August 6, as the country faced a looming threat of military intervention led by the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) regional bloc. However, as the deadline set by ECOWAS expired on Sunday, the regional bloc held an emergency virtual meeting with the African Union to discuss the situation in Niger.

Niger coup: Russia warns Ecowas not to take military action

Russia has warned that military intervention in Niger would lead to a “protracted confrontation” after regional bloc Ecowas said it would assemble a standby force.

Such an intervention would destabilise the Sahel region as a whole, the Russian foreign ministry said.

Russia does not formally back the coup.

But the US, which backs efforts to restore deposed leader Mohamed Bazoum, says its Wagner mercenary group is taking advantage of the instability.

On Friday coup supporters, some waving Russian flags, protested at a French military base near the capital NIamey, some chanting “down with France, down with Ecowas”.

Burkina Faso & Mali Reps Arrive in Niger: We Won’t Accept Repeat of NATO’s Libya Adventure

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-66478430

Suds
Suds
August 14, 2023 1:38 pm

Mutton chop sporting Elvis died a bit young, from big pharma and big numbers on scales of weight.
This Argentinian similar, gyrating his political pelvis in South America might suffer a similar fate.
Vote harder seemingly worked in Buenos Aires. Or is he a plant by puppeteers, too? Showtime?
Wonder if he does a cover of Don’t Be Cruel?
Wise men say only fools rush in, right, hound dog?

Philbert
Philbert
  Suds
August 14, 2023 7:15 pm

you’ve got a suspicious mind, Suds

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Philbert
August 14, 2023 8:12 pm

I’ll thank you on his behalf for the compliment!

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
August 14, 2023 2:26 pm

The most logical reason to move to Argentina is because you like Italian chicks.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Iska Waran
August 14, 2023 7:23 pm

…and fucking NAZIS.

Just sayin’…

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  The Central Scrutinizer
August 14, 2023 8:03 pm

Plus…the underarm hair is smelly and off-putting. Shave your cunt and not your armpits? What’s THAT all about?

WilliamtheResolute
WilliamtheResolute
August 14, 2023 2:27 pm

Someone needs to start on Javier Milei’s obituary…you don’t attack the Central Bank and live as a rule.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  WilliamtheResolute
August 14, 2023 7:24 pm

You haven’t read my manifesto yet! LOL!

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  The Central Scrutinizer
August 14, 2023 8:04 pm

I got it all worked out!

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 14, 2023 2:53 pm

There is nowhere to move. It is time to stand and fight. They will follow us everywhere. They are bent on full-spectrum dominance. They are few. We are many. Arithmetic is on our side. Use it.

“There is no New Frontier
We will have to make it here.”
~ The Eagles, “The Last Resort”

But just in case:

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 7:45 pm

All in God’s Good Time.

A Chick.
A Chick.
August 14, 2023 3:15 pm

Hey guys, I’m an argentinean italian “chick”. Nowhere to run there or here (yours and ours being so beautiful countries). https://es.weforum.org/people/javier-gerardo-milei

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  A Chick.
August 14, 2023 7:26 pm

Yes. Our countries are similar. We, however, are not.

If you love your life, do not conflate the two. Someone might misunderstand. Not you or I, but “someone”.

The True Nolan
The True Nolan
August 14, 2023 4:29 pm

Sounds like maybe (MAYBE — a BIG maybe but possible) Argentina has been watching El Salvador and getting some ideas. I am keeping my fingers crossed here, but it could be that the people of Central and South America have finally had their fill of socialism and crime.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  The True Nolan
August 14, 2023 7:30 pm

AND FUCKING MONKEYS WILL FLY OUT OF MUH BUTT TO TRUMPET THE GLORIOUS NEWS!!!

Can you mail me some of that shit you’re smokin’? That would be GREAT!

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 14, 2023 5:08 pm

No hable Argenish!

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 7:31 pm

BAM! The long version!

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 7:37 pm

Habla “Black Betty”?

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
August 14, 2023 6:56 pm

Sorry. I simply don’t have it in me to side with historical spiritual Enemies for the sake of expediency. I’d MUCH rather die. After all, Death is only the beginning.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  The Central Scrutinizer
August 14, 2023 7:15 pm

So, please die, already.

You killed JFK, because he wanted to kill you.

Die. EMP, please take out this pulse of ChatGPT.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
August 14, 2023 7:39 pm

Says the manatee with no name! Fucking IRONY abounds and abides!

“I declare a thumb war!” – Arnold Black nigger, something about spies with hermaphrodite Jamie Curtis!

thanks for the giggles!

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  The Central Scrutinizer
August 15, 2023 12:35 am

Kay. Think I’ma change muh name to the “Black Jewish Assassin”. Let’s do it Sammy Davis style 4 a while!

Defector
Defector
August 15, 2023 3:30 am

So many contradicting conclusions in the comments section.
Seems emotions and biases are on the high there.
This is news anyway.
I will watch the developments very carefully.
My only obervation is the situation is worth watching.
A smart psyops or some liberty breakthrough?
Time will tell.

Eud
Eud
August 15, 2023 5:04 pm

Whatever happened to Samuel Bankscam Freed?
They put muttonchops on him and ran him as a candidate in Argentina.