“Vaccine” killed 3.5X more Americans than COVID virus

Guest Post by Steve Kirsch

The data is clear and consistent. I challenge any qualified scientist to challenge this data in an open public debate.

Executive summary

The irresponsible attacks by an LA Times journalist on MSU Professor Mark Skidmore’s paper motivated me to run my own survey of my readers to see what the actual harm numbers really are.

Over 10,000 readers responded.

The survey clearly showed that the COVID vaccines have killed 3.5 times as many people as COVID. This is a disaster.

I’ve had expert statisticians and epidemiologists review the survey, the methodology, and the results. None could find any errors.

I’m willing to put a million dollars on the table that this is right and that the vaccines have killed more people than COVID. Any takers? If not, why not?

When I called Professor Norman Fenton and informed him of the 3.5X figure he calmly replied “I’m not surprised.”

The results of this survey are entirely consistent with the surveys by others as well as individual anecdotes that would have been very unlikely for me to have located if the vaccine didn’t kill at least 3.5X more people than the virus.

Therefore accusations of “the survey was biased” are simply “hand-waving” arguments with absolutely no evidentiary basis of support. Could there be bias? Of course. Is the bias significant is the question! Since these people are anti-vaxxers, they are simply less likely to vaccinate and so the number of vaccine injuries will be LOWER than an unbiased group who vaccinates. So yes, there may be bias, but if anything the bias suggests that the actual ratio is higher than 3.5. I’m happy to have that discussion. Bring it on.

The best way to challenge these results is to show data that is 100% independently verifiable (which government statistics are not). So they will have to show us their survey and their verifiable anecdotes supporting their hypothesis. No one has any interest in doing that for some reason. These people are all perfectly content with having the number be “unknown.” I have a big problem with that.

Finally, if any epidemiologist(s) with a h-index of 20 or more wants to publicly challenge the 3.5X result in an open public discussion, it’s easy to contact me. The h-index is simply a way to ensure we have a meaningful level of discourse. The people on my side of the debate table will have a combined h-index of over 100.

The data

Having record level data available where every record can be independently verified is critical. The other critical thing is making all the record level data publicly available.

I’ve done both. The health authorities NEVER do either.

Here are the links:

  1. The announcement
  2. The survey
  3. The survey responses (over 10,000)
  4. The Excel analysis of the first 9,620 responses which shows the responses are consistent with a Poisson distribution and also that hundreds of random 10% draws from the data do not change the outcome that the vaccines have killed at least 2.5X more people than COVID.

The survey had 10,000 responses.

Analysis of the first 9,620 found 804 deaths from COVID and 2,830 deaths from the COVID vaccine. Those results were generated from a minimum of 108,000 people covered by the survey (some extended families were over 25 people and the survey didn’t track this so the number of total family members covered by the survey is a lower bound). We also didn’t ask about the age of each family member as this would have made the survey unmanageable. We were primarily interested in simply the ratio of COVID deaths to vaccine deaths in the extended family (excluding the immediate household). The reason for excluding the immediate household is to reduce the bias effect since most of the respondents didn’t vaccinate themselves or their household. This is reflected in the lower ratio for the household statistics (and even then, the vaccines killed more people than COVID which is astonishing).

The analysis

No fancy math is needed to calculate the ratio: 2830/804=3.5X.

It is simple and straightforward. No sleight of hand. No trickery. No Cox Proportional Hazard manipulation. It’s all verifiable raw data.

We did other tests to see if the data looked like it was generated from a Poisson distribution (which is what deaths look like statistically) and we took random 10% draws to ensure that the data was consistent throughout all 10,000 responses. We found that was the case.

Fact checkers welcome here… come on in… I have nothing to hide

I’m happy to have independent fact checkers validate each of the entries with the submitter directly (subject to their consent of course).

The deal though is that if you want to validate the data, you have to agree to publish your findings.

Independent validation / Sanity checks

At first, you may think “3.5X… that’s way too high. Surely these anti-vaxxers are misclassifying normal deaths as “vaccine deaths.”

There are 10,000 different people making these assessments. We can randomly draw 20 names and check on the details of each death to assess whether this is the case.

But there is a much easier method to validate that the 3.5X number is sane: a single anecdote that is 100% verifiable.

I reported earlier on a high tech sales executive Jay Bonnar who told me 15 of his friends “died suddenly” after getting the vax. His life experience otherwise is devoid of deaths. The stories are all in the public domain and are verifiable. They were all his friends; they all died suddenly after the vaccine. Jay also had 1 friend who died in the hospital from COVID after receiving Remdesivir (which is probably what really killed his friend, but let’s just give the COVID virus a death).

So if Jay saw one COVID death, with a 3.5 multiple, Jay should have seen 3.5 vaccine deaths. But he saw 15. The probability of that happening is 4.26e-6 which means that only 1 person in 234,515 would have observed a story like Jay’s.

This would mean that I’d have to have chatted with nearly 250K people to find Jay. I can assure you, that was not the case. Jay is one of my Substack readers (a typical article has around 100K readers) and Jay responded to a survey about something I was asking at the time. Only around 10K people respond to surveys. I called only 10 people to validate the survey results from the 10K respondents. When Jay and I were talking, he let me know about the 15 friends and that got my attention and resulted in an article about Jay’s friends.

Jay’s story is a powerful anecdote that simply would not have been found if the ratio of vaccine deaths to COVID deaths wasn’t at least 3.5x.

So that is a powerful validation that my survey, if it is wrong, is underestimating the factor, rather than over estimating it.

There are 3 other powerful validators in addition to Jay’s anecdote:

  1. Wayne Root has numbers that are even more skewed: 30 to 1. The probabilities here are so astronomical that if the ratio isn’t at least 3.5X, a Wayne Root example couldn’t exist even if I interviewed every person on earth.
  2. The Rasmussen survey found the COVID vaccine killed as many people as COVID. This was done by an independent firm with an impeccable reputation. But this was done on the American public and 75% of the public believes the narrative, took the jab, and wouldn’t be able to spot a vaccine death (they would be gaslit by their doctors into believing it was just a coincidence, even if the death happened on the same day as the vaccine). So the deaths should be multiplied by around 4X so we are in the same 3.5:1 ballpark after the “blue pill” correction.
  3. I’ve done surveys on both Gab and Twitter, four months apart. These are on different platforms, done at different times, I have different followers on each platform, but the results of the surveys were nearly identical, finding a 3X to 4X higher death count for the vaccine deaths vs. COVID deaths.
Poll I recently did on X showing a ratio of COVID vax deaths to COVID virus deaths of 3.8X which is darn close to the 3.5X from my Substack followers in a more detailed poll
This is the poll I ran on Gab in Jun 2023. It shows a ratio of 2.95 between vaccine to COVID deaths.

So why are the Gab results lower than the X numbers?

The answer is simple: my Gab followers are mostly unvaccinated as you can clearly see below. If you don’t take the vaccine, it’s really hard to die from the vaccine. This anti-vax bias extends to family members so the numbers are lower than “reality.”

My Gab followers are highly intelligent and don’t get suckered in to take dangerous COVID jabs. That’s why the number of vaccine deaths is lower in this group.
  1. Denis Rancourt’s recent work (180 pages) shows that the vaccine kills about 1.2K people per 1M doses. “He found no evidence that the Covid-19 vaccine has reduced overall deaths in any of these countries. In fact, the opposite seems to be true.” There have been 650M doses in the US, which would imply 780K deaths which is close to my 650K death estimate. The number of COVID deaths in America is vastly over inflated. A recent JAMA paper showed COVID is about 2X deadlier than the flu, and since flu deaths per year average 37,800 (which I got from Bard so I can’t be accused of cherry picking the number), an estimate of actual COVID deaths over 3 years (since Omicron is very mild), we can estimate that around 226,800 people (37800×3 years ×2 the death rate) were actually killed by COVID, so 780K/226800 = 3.44 which is remarkably close to the 3.5X factor from our surveys.

More on bias

All surveys have bias.

In my case, there is a bias for lower numbers because my followers are very under vaccinated and in many cases, their families are too. So this can result in lower vaccine deaths.

But there might also be a bias in assessing a death to be from the vaccine when it wasn’t caused by the vaccine. Experts can adjudicate these deaths and we can apply a correction factor that might correct in either direction. Here’s the interesting thing about this bias: I don’t think anyone knows which direction this bias is! I don’t. Do you? Were my readers more astute that trained professionals in assessing vaccine deaths? Or less astute? We can adjust for this bias, but the problem will be: who do you trust to make the professional assessments of the death? Any medical expert I suggest who I think is astute can be accused of being biased. So the bias accusation can always be made.

The simplest approach is the Occam’s razor method and assume that the assessments are “close” and consider this as one experiment that generates a value.

Or we can invite our critics to show us their data that properly corrects for all these biases (as if that is possible).

Then you look at the other experiments and look at the values that they produce. If you have 9 values that all strongly agree and 1 that doesn’t, you then can spend more time on the outlier trying to find a source of error. Failing that, maybe it is the 9 that agree that have the error, but that’s less likely.

In my case the numbers lined up well… all the approaches showed that the vaccine killed more people than COVID and should be halted. The numbers I got in this survey didn’t surprise me, they didn’t surprise my colleagues, and the anecdotes are consistent with the numbers. I love anecdotes because you can verify all the facts whereas you cannot do that with government data (the UK data being the perfect example of totally useless and misleading data). For every person who claims “your suvey is biased” I can say in response that “your government data is biased.”

Biases are a part of life. You try to adjust for them when you can do so accurately.

Why is nobody taking my $1M bet? Answer: Because none of them believe their bullshit claims about the vaccine being safe

I’ve offered to bet anyone in the world $1M who thinks that COVID has killed more than the vaccine. What I continue to not understand is why nobody wants to take my money if the case is so obvious that the vaccines have killed fewer people than COVID. The most I got is a $500K bet from one person in Israel. That’s it.

Is he the only guy in the entire world willing to bet me? How come Pfizer and Moderna aren’t taking my challenge? How come none of the experts aren’t raising the funds for this “no risk” opportunity?

The reason nobody will bet me is that they don’t want to lose their money. It’s OK if you lose your life taking their advice, but they are so unsure they are right, they won’t risk their own money on their beliefs. It’s really that simple. They say it, but they don’t believe it. It’s all “big hat, no cattle.”

Summary

My latest survey shows 3.5X as many people were killed by the vaccine as by the virus. That is a train wreck.

Professor Norman Fenton was not at all surprised by this number based on his research. When I told him the number, he didn’t even raise an eyebrow.

In this article, I showed 5 entirely different methods for validating the results.

Not a single pro-vax person, as far as I know, has any clue as to what they think the number is. Whenever I ask, they throw up their hands and say that they don’t know. Even though they have no clue what the ratio is, there is one thing that they are absolutely confident of: I can’t be right and my survey MUST be wrong.

This reminds me of physicians who say, “We don’t know what killed you, but the one thing we do know for sure is that it wasn’t the vaccine.” Have you heard that before?

It’s time for the vaccine advocates to put up or shut up. Show me your numbers, show me at least 5 independent ways you got to the same number, and show me the similar extreme anecdotes showing that your number must be right and mine is wrong (like show me the guy who knows 30 people who died from COVID and only 1 person who died from the vaccine), and let’s get to the bottom of this and find out who is right and who is wrong.

Not showing up with any data or any willingness to resolve this issue is unacceptable.

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28 Comments
Archaeopteryx Phoenix
Archaeopteryx Phoenix
  Administrator
October 26, 2023 8:10 am

If you demonstrate you are a greater risk by being at fault for a traffic accident, the insurance company raises your rates.

Anyone who has taken a “Covid” “Vaccine” is a greater risk, and their life insurance rates should go up, since Muh insurance companies use actuarial tables to set their rates.

Should I hold my breath for waiting for this to happen?

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 26, 2023 7:02 am

What is 3.5 times a fake number?

Mo
Mo
  Anonymous
October 27, 2023 6:44 am

Yeah really. I hated math and trigonometry in school but, doesn’t anything multiplied by 0 amount to zero?

zappalives
zappalives
October 26, 2023 7:05 am

The vaxxed dont care the vaxx is killing them …..so why should I care ?

VOWG
VOWG
October 26, 2023 7:14 am

Of course the vaxxes killed more people than the non-existent “covid” virus.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
October 26, 2023 7:34 am

I see we’ve moved up to putting quotation marks around the word vaccine, I guess that’s a step in the right direction.

IT’S NOT A VACCINE.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
October 26, 2023 8:00 am

Now, let’s parenthesize “covid”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
October 26, 2023 9:44 am

Oops, quotation marks, not parentheses. Caffeine finally in effect. D’oh.

kiwi
kiwi
  Anonymous
October 26, 2023 3:08 pm

‘convid’

DFJ150
DFJ150
October 26, 2023 8:10 am

Deaths “from” covid were vastly overestimated to gin up fear and pave the way for the toxic depopulation jab. Hospital records were falsified to use all who died “with covid”, based on an erroneous test with a 97% false positive result at a cycle threshold of 35 or greater, to pad the numbers. On the flip side, deaths from the “vaccine” have been purposely underreported, to try to shield those responsible for this genocide. And, they are still pushing the deadly, useless mRNA cocktail, in a desperate attempt to cover their asses and kill as many “useless eaters” as possible. Purebloods will be left to clean up this mess.

GNL
GNL
  DFJ150
October 26, 2023 10:36 am

Least effective genocide ever.

BL
BL
  GNL
October 26, 2023 10:44 am

The numbers don’t back you up , Glock. Unless you count the biblical flood.

kiwi
kiwi
  DFJ150
October 26, 2023 3:10 pm

there is no ‘convid’, the evil fuckers just rebranded the flu

bill
bill
October 26, 2023 10:18 am

We owe a big “Thank You” to Steve and all the others who swam against the current, most of the time all alone, to make sure this info got out to the public. They’re all heroes in my book.

Splish_Splash
Splish_Splash
October 26, 2023 11:26 am

My friend whom I sent an excellent video to early in the “Plan”demic poo pood the vieo without really watch the whole thing – I could tell by his email response. He passed away this past Good Friday of the ‘turbo’ cancer phenomena. I told a ‘Christian’ friend very early on in the COVID crime spree she needed to pray about whether she should take the dhot we didn’t know then there would be multiple shots) She ghosted me and I have never her from her again – 3 plus years.! We were in high school together 61 years ago.

fujigm
fujigm
  Splish_Splash
October 27, 2023 1:53 am

Praise the Vax for showing you who your true friends are!

TheTruthBurns
TheTruthBurns
October 26, 2023 11:28 am

The FDA has admitted that No vaccines are actually tested for safety or safe to use or even effective & the Polio “Vaccine” has killed many tens of thousands over the years. Remember it is Our Duty as taxpayers to Shut the Fuck Up, Do as You’re Told, Make the Pharma Companies Hundreds of Billions of Dollars & then just DIE Stupid Sheep!

Never Trust Any Government, Bank, Corporation, Religion, University, Government Schools, Military, Police – they are All Power Control Centers for Satan & All the Demonic Fucks that run these institutions of DEATH.

Only Trust in GOD & Pray as though Your Life Depends On It because Your Life Does Depend on GOD – Not Men.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 26, 2023 12:09 pm

Nope.
The Dermal Bypass Operations killed 100% more than faux~vid.
You just can’t die from something that doesn’t exist.

The symptoms of covid are an exact match for heavy metals poisoning.
How heavy metals came to be inside so many victims is a mystery /s.

LongTimeTexan
LongTimeTexan
October 26, 2023 12:13 pm

Senile, little girl fondling Joe Biden lied and millions died. The slimy little rat snake Fauci lied and millions died. The CDC lied and millions died. Big pharma lied and millions died. Millions continue to die. All of the above should be brought up on charges of mass murder.

fujigm
fujigm
  LongTimeTexan
October 27, 2023 1:58 am

And who will charge them?
Biden’s DOJ?
When will you people wake the fuck up?
The system is wholly compromised.
Nobody will be charged with anything.
You have a problem with the status quo?
It’s all up to you to be the change you want to see.
Me, I’m good with it.
The people that wanted me in a camp or dead are dying.
And I’m all busted up over it. /s

Jim
Jim
October 26, 2023 12:16 pm

Minor correction perhaps?
Under The Data, Here are the links, #4, The Excel analysis…. it says “killed at least 2.5x more”, but you’ve been using 3.5x everywhere else. If it’s over 3.5x then at least 2.5x more is also correct. But it looks inconsistent. I’ve found people like to jump on typo’s and use them to to argue your credibility rather than the data and methods.

drbarry
drbarry
October 26, 2023 12:41 pm

I fear 3-4x is too low. I am a front-line doctor getting referrals for neurologically damaged patients, and virtually all of them are highly jabbed. It is blowing my mind and breaking my heart that my medical colleagues and government continue to push these deadly poisons. We are just beginning to realize the fall-out and I fear this winter will be an all-cause-mortality nightmare. Look up people, God is getting angry and Jesus is coming soon to rescue his Bride.

Lachesis Atropos
Lachesis Atropos
October 26, 2023 2:18 pm

And the sheeple still walk into Walgreens to take the new and improved vaccine jab. It will take many, many more deaths before the sheep figure it out, and then it will be too late.

bunnies
bunnies
October 26, 2023 2:55 pm

The data is clear and consistent. I challenge any qualified scientist to challenge this data in an open public debate.

Nope, they won’t. Besides, there’s radio ads proclaiming the ‘virus’ ranks up there with heart disease, all without the need for proof, and that we need to get ‘updated’ boosters.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 26, 2023 3:06 pm

this fool still trying to sell the convid lie