Guest Post by Steve Kirsch
I found it. A single question: “If the COVID vaccine is safe, can you explain this to me?” What happens is they respond with ad hominem attacks. They cannot answer this question. Ever.
Executive summary
The one question they can’t answer has been found.
They will either change the topic or start telling you how stupid you are.
The question: “If the COVID vaccine is so safe, how do you explain Fig 1 in this article?” (reproduced below)
Background
I want to thank Dr. Graham Bottley for inspiring this. I finally have a single simple question that every mainstream doctor will run from.
Bottley is a “scientist” whose credentials are so formidable (in his own view), that he does not have to answer any questions. I asked him two softball questions and he avoided answering them and instead requested that I answer HIS question. I said “happy to, right after you answer my question.”
The two questions I asked in a DM to him:
I also wanted to find out if Bottley could read and understand an epidemiology study. Again, he avoided answering:
I then gave him yet one more question, in full public view, that he refused to answer.
Here it is:
What they do when you ask this question is attack you or change the subject.
The debate is over in one question. They cannot explain the graph. You cannot have a 7x variation in the bar height in the first 60 days. Anyone who attempts to defend this will fail.
So they resort to ad hominem attacks on me for asking the question.
Summary
The question: “If the COVID vaccine is so safe, how do you explain Fig 1 in this article?”
I will now spend less time on debates. This question ends the debate. One question. One ducking the answer. All in plain sight. Gold standard data from the very government that pushed the jabs.
The debates are over. This one figure proves the vaccines are causing huge amounts of excess mortality. There is no other explanation.
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Once again the problem is not that this may or may not be happening, it’s that everyone- even those who stand up to it- continue to use the language and the information of the very people behind this program.
Why keep refering to the common flu as Covid? Why call a needle filled with experimental and unproven chemicals and adulterants and a vaccine?
Stop using their terms as if we are all on the same page. We’re not. It wasn’t a special illness different from all other annual flu-type outbreaks and it certainly wasn’t a vaccine.
As to the data in the charts, why accept that if it comes from the same source that tried to convince you to do such stupid things as wear paper masks and walk in certain directions at the store? Maybe fifty times more people got sick afterwards, maybe no one did, who’s to know and how would you even go about finding out?
The only solution to this is to do on the macro, what you would do on the micro level. If every time you went to your doctor he told you that he diagnosed evil spirits and planned on curing you by using leeches on your taint and a hammer blow to the temple, would you go back again? No, you’d never visit that physician again and you’d make sure to tell other people that he was a quack. Same goes for this kind of analysis.
I commend you for trying to set some things straight.
However to me it looks more like muddying the waters a bit more:
– Was in your opinion Covid equal to the common flu (“refering to the common flu as Covid”) or was it similar in effect? (“wasn’t a special illness different from all other annual flu-type outbreaks”) We should try to be precise in our language.
– To explain why it was a “vaxx” and not a vaccine, you have two main approaches:
Either you go into minute detail of infection/immunity, probabilities, and risk/reward ratios,
or -probably easier- you point out that any vaccine, for many decades before Covid, was something that had been tested and monitored on a small group of humans for 7+ years before it got regulatory approval for public distribution.
– And if you dislike the source of the charts, tell us how to find a way [without those sources] to discern if the “vaxx” is definitely dangerous, before you took it yourself.
Note: I found a way to evaluate the danger of Covid without using such sources, but I have so far not been able to come up with such for the danger of the “vaxx.” (And luckily I didn’t need to, as I had realized the danger of Covid is low, so there was no point in getting a “vaxx” against it.)
Listen, clearly I am old school. If someone uses the word lunch for example, I am very likely to think of a meal eaten during the middle of the day, usually a sandwich or something like that. If suddenly the word lunch was used to mean a bicycle helmet, I would take the same issue with the use of the word. My reasoning being that there is already a word for bicycle helmet that everyone recognizes and understands and that it confuses people unneccessarily making them think instead about eating something between their breakfast and their dinner.
Same thing with vaccine.
I like words, always was interested in them, their etymology, their root, definitions, synonyms and antonyms, etc. Not everyone is and most people have the same sort of vocabulary they possessed at age 10. Trump is a great example. He couldn’t possibly know more than 9,000 words based on his speech and that’s fine because he clearly resonates with so many people who are equally limited in their ability to express themselves and therefore think in a complex manner due to having fewer words to accurately describe the world they inhabit.
Vaccine means something. The shot that was rolled out with the super-super Star-Trek sounding Operation Warp Speed slogan wasn’t a vaccine. they literally went to the publishers of dictionaries and pressured them to change the meaning of the word to cover their asses. I never saw that happen before in my lifetime, but that’s what happened this time. So by any standard something that has a definition is best described using that definition and if something falls outside of it, it is best to either find a word that better describes it (like a shot) or come up with a new word. Changing the meaning ex post facto indicates chicanery, unless you’re a person who doesn’t know what that means, in which case you’ve probably been boosted two or three times already.
Same for Covid. Before Covid the annual flu.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html
According to them, the historic flu season affected somewhere between 25-30 millin Americans annually, sometimes higher, sometimes less, but on average tens of millions. Until Covid arrived. They don’t have any numbers for the 2020-2021 timeframe because, well, let them set you straight-
Estimates are not available for the 2020-2021 flu season due to minimal influenza activity
You would have to be pretty damn naive to think that a trend established for decades showing tens of millions of people coming down with what we call the flu suddenly dropped to a level so low as not to be reportable. You might, if you are a curious person, even be able to discern a patter connecting the emergence of something brand new with the complete disappearance of something that’s always been with us.
I’ve got to go, I’m off to ride my bike and I can’t find my lunch.
“Vaccine means something. The shot that was rolled out with the super-super Star-Trek sounding Operation Warp Speed slogan wasn’t a vaccine.”
Why don’t you spend some of your long-worded post to explain what exactly constitutes a real -true to the word- vaccine, according to you; and what features of the “vaxx” clearly disqualify it from being a true vaccine?
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You might notice I did try to do that, in the shortest possible way.
Any dictionary definition prior to March of 2020 works.
Really.
Why don’t you show us a screenshot of a pre-2020 dictionary definition.
It is possible and more than likely that many tested for Covid could have been co-infected with a “normal” strain of flu. Different viral strains can coexist in the same host and often do.
Because of the hysteria going on at the time there was hardly any testing for A/B strains so the statistics are screwed up. Hospitals were getting reimbursed for their charge capture faster and better for Covid diagnoses. This should not be surprising because people were being killed by another screw up for $$$ ….Ventilator/Remdesivir protocol.
The “normal” flu viruses didn’t go away, for the most part, the testing for them did, that is the explanation for what the CDC “claims”.
I’m surprised HSF would use or believe any charts by the CDC when he discounts just about everything he has no intimate experience with, which in this case, I do.
Retired Cardiac RN
No. The test were bullshit in several ways.
* they tested for non-specific DNA by design
* the template ostensibly used for specificity was taken from blending existing coronavirus strains and not an isolated novel virus.
On the first point, all you have to do is raise the cycles of PCR until dimerization occurs and you will get DNA which is the only thing the indicator tells you, because specificity is built into the primer.
On the second point, even if they don’t cheat on cycles, you still haven’t proved you have covid-19 because there is no definitive confirmation that any novel virus has been isolated, just samples provided by the same government resource.
The devil is in the methodology.
You are arguing against something he didn’t posit.
That is why I didn’t reply. We both agree the statistics are skewed. K31 does not reveal his source or his background which is suspect to me. My background is cardio pulmonary, Oxygen perfusion and cardiac rhythm interpretation, in stent labs and cardiac artery bypass graft clinics. I’m not a Laboratory Med. Tech. Which is the language he is using, if K31 is or something similar, you would think he would have said so.
Copy/Paste? Whatever…….
I was showing their duplicity using their own accounting.
Their charts cannot be relied upon, but by any measure we all know- having lived more than a few decades on Earth- that there is a regularly occurring illness that has always been referred to as “the flu” (short for influenza). Whether a specific number of cases as accounted by the CDC is accurate or not I would not be able to guess, but by using my life experience I am able to guesstimate that there are tens of millions of cases yearly. If I know 25 people close enough to be aware of when they are sick or not, I can average that cases load out to the general population.
I cannot help but notice that whenever I make any kind of point someone jumps on t and immediately assigns some sort of binary standard, i.e., if I don’t believe the earth is a spinning globe, I must believe it is a stationary flat plate. I don’t see the everything as an either/or type choice, but rather as a does this seem right to you because it looks hinky to me kind of affair.
HTH
Are your 25 close friends spread out over 50 states ? If they aren’t, how the hell do you think you can average out a case load for the “general population”?
That’s called survivor bias, look it up.
I’ll take my 39 years of RN experience over your life experience when it comes to anything related to human biology, physiology or healthcare, thank you very much.
Why are you gay?
My brother, who is a “doctor” tells me the flu went away cause everyone used masks. I said great, masks work for the flu but not convid. He won’t speak to me on the subject now.
Your brother should be sued for malpractice.
Flu’s Clues.
Still seeking the ultimate question Steve??
Hows that class action lawsuit shaping up??
Got the go fund me page ready to go to skim millions to ‘help’ the poor billionaire fight these evil asswipes??
And the wheels on the bus go round and round.
Kirsch has been a lone voice of truth for quite a while now…unfortunately, the lying and compromised science community will never concede they are wrong…until the majority of us convincingly tell them that we do NOT believe their lies!
wrong, he is still a believer in the thoroughly disproven ‘germ theory’
Yep.
A bunch of people listened to the sales pitch and reacted by desiring and acquiring the “only” solution for saving their own lives being offered by the people selling and dispensing the fear of death to them.
That is why the Ashkenazi always smear and accuse the people who are most like God with being exactly what the Ashkenazi are: evil in the image and likeness of the Fallen angels of Hell.
It is what they do: they lie and accuse the victims of their crimes, of committing the same crimes against them, To justify their evil as Revenge which is also evil but they do not know it.Thereby attempting to give themselves a justification: it is called blame shifting, or blaming the victim, all insane psychopaths do it every day.
The Talmud tells them to do it. Karl Marx told them to do it, “to cause confusion and chaos”.
Only people who have no feelings, no emotions, no empathy or compassion will always do it, out of fear. They want one thing, control because they live in fear and make them always seek either fight, or fight.
Only Hypocrites do that. The most supremely arrogant form of hypocrisy always comes for the Ashkenazi.
So they tell you “Covid is killing you”. When the truth is: their Vaccines are killing you.
It works for them.
They even accused Jesus of being with Satan and trying to get power and be God, why? they project their own evil onto everyone else who is not at all like them, who is the exact opposite of them.
It is the Ashkenazi who killed Jesus so they could do Satan’s work as his tools on earth.
They are the ones who seek power and control and want to be masters of the world and worshiped as God’s.
Stop letting it work for them.
I love words but hate that we let their definitions be made by enemies of liberty. Just as Orwell predicted.
How about “fully vaccinated?”, also published here a long time ago.
https://worldyturnings.wordpress.com/2021/10/12/fully-vaccinated/