Edward Gibbon: On The Seven Key Indicators of Civilizational Decline

Via Identity Dixie

Most modern historians are weak. But there is one who stands out above the rest. I can think of no post-Enlightenment historian who better captured why civilizations wither and die than Edward Gibbon.

His 1788 work The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire describes the process of collapse well, using Rome as the example. I highly recommend this read, even if using the abridged versions.

Here is a brief summary:

The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire is a monumental work by Edward Gibbon, published in six volumes between 1776 and 1788. Gibbon’s magnum opus provides a comprehensive historical account of the decline and collapse of the Roman Empire, spanning from the height of its power to its eventual fragmentation and fall. The work is considered a masterpiece of historical literature and a key text in the study of the Roman Empire.

Gibbon begins with the reign of Marcus Aurelius in the second century AD and traces the history of the Roman Empire through its various phases, ultimately concluding with the fall of Constantinople in 1453.

You can take his causes of decline from the fall of Rome and apply it to every major national collapse since then.

We can summarize these causes into seven key categories:

  1. Internal Decay: Gibbon argues that internal decay played a crucial role in Rome’s decline. This included moral decadence, corruption, and a loss of civic virtue among the ruling class.
  2. Military Challenges: The Roman military, once a formidable force, faced challenges such as overextension, external invasions, and reliance on mercenaries, contributing to its decline.
  3. Economic Issues: Economic factors, including heavy taxation, inflation, and a reliance on slave labor, are highlighted by Gibbon as contributing to the empire’s decline.
  4. Religious Factors: Gibbon explores the role of religion in the decline, emphasizing the rise of Christianity and its impact on the traditional Roman values and institutions. This created a breakdown from the original tradition, and a splintering within the foundational values of the state.
  5. Barbarian Invasions: External pressures from barbarian invasions, particularly by Germanic and Hunnic tribes, are obviously identified as significant contributors to the fall of the Western Roman Empire.
  6. Administrative Inefficiency: Gibbon critiques the Roman administrative system, pointing to bureaucratic inefficiency, corruption, and a lack of responsiveness to emerging challenges.
  7. Division of the Empire: The division of the Roman Empire into East and West is seen as a weakening factor, with the Western Roman Empire eventually succumbing to various pressures while the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine Empire) persisted for several more centuries.

Any of those sound familiar? I have just recently written on each one of these regarding the current American system:

  1. Internal DecayAmerica Is Babylon
  2. Military ChallengesThe Condition Of The U.S. Military: Lying Dog-Faced Pony Soldiers
  3. Economic IssuesRecognizing The Foundational Crack
  4. Religious FactorsThe Fall Of Christendom And The Great Lie Of The Enlightenment
  5. Barbarian InvasionsThe Ominous Purpose Of Illegal Immigration
  6. Administrative InefficiencyBureaucracy Will Destroy Us
  7. Division of the EmpireThe [Much Needed] Great American Partition

If you didn’t know I was talking about Rome when you read the first list, you’d probably think this article was about the United States. Even the division piece – we don’t have an outright division yet, but the foundation is there, just as it was for Rome.

Remember: this work was written around 1788. When you read the above seven points, you would think it’s a critique of the current American state. But nope, this was Rome circa pre-collapse.

It’s a great work, if you can stomach the sheer amount of content included. Those seven key indicators of decline are helpful to recognize; to properly discern the signs of the times.

The lessons the book provides are phenomenal for extrapolating to future collapses. And pensively, to our own current condition.

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Wisenmanor
Wisenmanor
April 6, 2024 3:02 pm

Only hire blue eyed people with blond hair and your business will prosper!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Wisenmanor
April 6, 2024 4:36 pm

Fuck off, Langley.

CCRider
CCRider
April 6, 2024 3:11 pm

Undeniably true but a rapid rebirth is possible due to the Founders giving us the Bill of Rights as a roadmap to redemption. Like lots of others, I’ve known for a long time (starting for me in November of 1963) that the center would eventually collapse. Following that demise our real work starts. Never quit.

Ned
Ned
  CCRider
April 6, 2024 3:49 pm

Unfortunately, even the Bill of Rights is mis-named. It is there not to define the rights that we have, but rather to define the constraints put on the Federal gov’t.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ned
April 6, 2024 6:02 pm

Wrong. The CONstitution was itself a coup-d’etat. The Rights are enumerated in arguable words, so shysters and voting factions may debate imaginary fine shades of meaning about them, thereby suspending them, and/or reinterpreting them in favor of power.

Either one owns oneself fully, or others do. Written laws are lies. A man owns himself, or others do. There is no compromise.

CCRider
CCRider
  Anonymous
April 6, 2024 7:54 pm

Much truth in what you say. If you’re advocating for an AnCap society, I’m on board.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  CCRider
April 6, 2024 7:59 pm

I’m wary of labels, but as long as a man retains self-ownership and there is no institutional sanctioning of him for simple personal choices, all seems well. Butler Shaffer’s (R.I.P.) book, “Boundaries of Order: Private Property As A Social System” seems workable. Hoppe’s private property society seems good. A man must be free to secede to his front porch unmolested, or it’s tyranny and slavery, not liberty, with two classes: the rulers and the ruled.

“Once one concedes that a single world government is not necessary, then where does one logically stop at the permissibility of separate states? If Canada and the United States can be separate nations without being denounced as in a state of impermissible ‘anarchy’, why may not the South secede from the United States? New York State from the Union? New York City from the state? Why may not Manhattan secede? Each neighbourhood? Each block? Each house? Each person?” ― Murray N. Rothbard

Ghost
Ghost
  Anonymous
April 7, 2024 3:35 pm

Sovereign Citizens are a real thing, albeit much maligned.

i forget
i forget
  Ghost
April 7, 2024 4:00 pm

oxymorons are real things.

“arguable words” is the whole point of the spear that is language.

& not just “political” language.

because political is a pre-verbal condition.

Ghost
Ghost
  i forget
April 7, 2024 4:29 pm

Good to see you, i forget.

Oxymorons are really phantoms, aren’t they?

While I never thought of language as a spear, its main tool, the pen, is mightier than the spear’s cousin, the sword, so the simile certainly works.

“Political” language is an oxymoron of the third kind; it is a pairing of an “arguable” term synonymous with BIG LIE-Political with the word synonymous with human communication-language. So, Political Language is Big Lie Communication.

Political is Post-Verbal.

i forget
i forget
  Ghost
April 7, 2024 11:19 pm

More like both hands washing the other with Breaking Bad acid is the oxidizing moron.

Or Escher’s Hands putting down the pencils & picking up the erasers.

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Or the good-eats cake that never gets eaten … even as the guillotine feeds & feeds & feeds.

Language facilitates/camouflages the body language that always already lies within.

People lie. A lot. Not just a throwaway line from House, M.D.

And pretend (lie) that words “mean something” more than “coverup”/camo most of the time.

“All the world’s a stage” to professional & amateur – “coulda been an actor but I wound up here” 🎶 – pretenders alike.

Just enough pass-go rule proving exception in it, language, to let most everybody out of jail complete with free lunch … devil take the Heinlein-most … which *is* most … Bueller (Pareto)? Bueller (Pareto)?

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20% Cleavers off (with more than a little help from the) 80% of the Beaver & makes a Technicolor Dreamcoat to wear.

20% of that 20% blasts the other (again, big help) 80% of the (roy or)bison herd & takes Crying to #1. Again.

& again. & again.

(“Taps military industrial complex” – politics is war – “is this thing on?” But for RPE – rule proving exception – it doesn’t have an off.)

And some, not a few, will even say, straight-faced, pick a lie-side. Pick a story. A narrative. “You’re either with us” – our pack of lies – “or you’re against us” & so liars-defaulted to the other, some other, pack of lies.

That’s the sovereign telling the citizen what’s what.

It’s also the “teacher”/“editor” telling the budding, or invasive-weeded out, langaugeer what’s what, how to get the dangled incentive.

If baby wants formula baby regurgitates formula.

Eventually Baby’s in a corner & is convinced it was her own righteously honest & so self-entitled idea.

Word-flage begets rhinoplasty-flage & Baby’s last lie makes her unrecognizable vis a vis the earlier lies.

And then Baby has her ah-ha & goes with the true, right?

Bueller? Bueller? …

Fact is, that’s most, if not all, of what Baby, & “her people,” want. A staked out corner.

(Ever see The Wire? Those celluloid Baltimore street corners. Omar Little got it from a little baby in the corner. Michael K. Williams – I saw him showing Anthony Bourdain around in one of those “foodie” episodes – got it too, later, via recreational overdose. Cor/o/ners, all around.)

It’s a Dirty Dance alright.

I good-remember you, too, ghost.

Ghost
Ghost
  i forget
April 8, 2024 6:53 am

Fabulous commentary regarding baby in the corner.

Did you know Patrick smoked like a fiend?

i forget
i forget
  Ghost
April 8, 2024 11:47 am

Maybe. Might have displaced that detail. I do recall an “unscheduled landing” in AZ. Dunno if pilot Patrick’s drinking habits caused it, or just correlated, but seems he burned both ends simultaneously. I liked him.

“They” remade his Road House. Terrible.

thx ghost.

Gary
Gary
  CCRider
April 6, 2024 9:05 pm

No Masters, No Slaves

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 6, 2024 6:34 pm

lol…“I’ll call the boys who’ll come down here, boy, and break your fuckin’ face. You’re in Ireland now ya little prick!”

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Anonymous
April 6, 2024 10:31 pm

I like this fella. Shot call’n and not a worry’n fear of these invaders. spicy time.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 6, 2024 6:54 pm

The author clearly doesn’t understand point 4.

Pilgrim's Progress
Pilgrim's Progress
  Anonymous
April 6, 2024 9:59 pm

Yeah, I noticed that too.

KaD
KaD
April 6, 2024 10:55 pm

Stunning Study Confirms ‘Gender-Confused’ Children Mostly ‘Grow Out of It’

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 7, 2024 6:18 am

8. Installing a cognitively disable person as the leader of the nation!