Have the Atheists Become the Gorillas?

Have the Atheists Become the Gorillas?

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Every time I write an article that mentions god – even if used as a descriptive reference to “the gods” – I get insulting and arrogant comments from atheists. And it’s not just me; you can see the same thing all over the Internet.

To put it simply, these people are bullies, striking unbidden with fast, hard blows. It’s not about truth; it’s about dominance.

Not all atheists do this, obviously. I have quite a few atheist friends who are decent, kind people. But an abusive strain of atheism has taken root in recent years, and I think it’s time to confront it.

Here’s the key:

The goal of these bullies is not to find truth or even to defend it; it’s to put down other people – to insult, humiliate and laugh at the fools who believe in any sort of god, even people who use references to god.

These people slash and burn. They labor to destroy, not to build.

I used to have a standing offer: that I would publish any atheist book that did not criticize, but instead told people how atheism would make their lives better. The result? No one ever submitted a manuscript.

The Irony of It All

Last week I wrote an article entitled Are you a Gorilla or a God? In it, I explained that the worst of human behavior is gorilla-like and the best god-like. I went on to explain the gorilla side this way:

Dominant gorillas seek status and the power to control others. The submissive apes seek to pass along their pain to the apes below them.

In response to the article (which mentioned gods!), I received the business end of that atheistic slash and burn. But these people never realized that they were placing themselves precisely into the position I had assigned to the gorillas: slapping and biting smaller animals to make themselves dominant.

A Defense of Atheism

I don’t have a problem with atheism per se. I was actually raised as an atheist, by a mother whose love I never for a moment doubted. And, as I say, I have friends who are atheists. The opinion, by itself, doesn’t bother me.

I think atheism is a valid opinion. I happen to disagree with it, but I disagree with a lot of things – that doesn’t mean I go about to destroy them all. Our goal should be to improve people, not to chop them up.

One essential flaw I find with strident atheism is that no one can know enough to make that pronouncement. Here’s what I mean:

  • I think it is 100% fair to say, “I’ve never seen evidence of a God, so I don’t think there is one.”
  • What I don’t think is fair, is to say, “I know there is no such thing as God.” This is especially true regarding the Judeo-Christian God, who is said to exist beyond our universe. Until they can look beyond the universe, no one can say for sure.

Some atheists will say that putting God outside of the universe was merely a trick to avoid evidence. But even if it did begin as a trick, the idea stands on its own, and saying, “I know that there is no god at all, anywhere,” is unsound.

But, again, to say, “I see no evidence and don’t think there’s a God” is an entirely fair and rational opinion.

The Unfair Atheist Argument

You’ve all seen the technique: The aggressive atheist picks their spot and pounces with references to the very worst examples of theism, and implies that all believers are that way.

But most believers have no desire at all to burn witches or stone homosexuals. To paint them as being that way is not only unfair; it is abusive.

These atheists will, of course, pull together abstract arguments, saying, “Your book says that, and you say you believe the book, so you defend burning witches.”

The truth, however, is that modern believers want nothing to do with burning witches, inquisitions, or any other horrors. (In fact, they would oppose them strongly.) The atheists know this, of course; they’re just trying to slash and burn.

A kinder, better atheist would say, “You believers really should explain why you no longer accept some of the things written in your book.” That would be honest and helpful.

Can We All Get Along?

Yes, of course we can. Only one thing needs to be absent (on both sides): the desire to injure and dominate.

Atheists and theists can be friends and co-travelers. I’ve spent pleasant hours with evangelists for atheism. We disagreed, we got over it, and we enjoyed each other’s company.

It really comes back to the basic principles that we learned as children: You don’t try to bully them, and they shouldn’t try to bully you. Play nice.

It isn’t that hard.

Paul Rosenberg

[Editor’s Note: Paul Rosenberg is the outside-the-Matrix author of FreemansPerspective.com, a site dedicated to economic freedom, personal independence and privacy. He is also the author of The Great Calendar, a report that breaks down our complex world into an easy-to-understand model. Click here to get your free copy.]

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TPC
TPC
November 18, 2013 4:39 pm

“The opposite of the religious fanatic is not the fanatical atheist but the gentle cynic who cares not whether there is a god or not.”

-Eric Hoffer

I don’t have the book with me, but he then goes on to say that without religion Atheists would be nothing, a shadow without a light to cast it. They need religion just as much as they revile it.

The True Believer, Eric Hoffer

Stucky
Stucky
November 18, 2013 4:54 pm

” …. regarding the Judeo-Christian God, who is said to exist beyond our universe. Until they can look beyond the universe, no one can say for sure.” ———- from the article

It’s too easy to set the bar so high that no one can ever reach it.

For example, I could say I believe that God is a special kind of tomato that resides only in the fifth dimension …. and until you enter the 5th dimension, you’ll never know if I’m telling the truth. To which you would rightfully say, “You’re nuts!”.

Nevertheless, I sometimes wonder if we’ll take part in this discussion at the Pearly Gates;

Atheist: “What am I doing here? I don’t believe in God.”
God” “That OK. I bleieve in you. Come on in.”

avcobe
avcobe
November 18, 2013 5:15 pm

“Self-awareness develops through clash. The awareness that develops through physical clash is termed crude physical intellect because it is associated with matter.

The consciousness of animals and undeveloped human beings is matter-oriented. But even in developed human society, if someone is an atheist or a materialist, we can only term their intellect as crude physical intellect. Such people deny the existence of spirituality in order to hide their intellectual deficiencies. Their denial betrays their moral and intellectual bankruptcy. It does not speak of their glory, nor does it diminish the value of spirituality.” P R Sarkar

The crude physical intellect is dominated by these psychological traits:
* shame, doubt and fear
* anger and hatred
* attraction, avarice and longing for earthly objects
* vanity and complex of culture and high descent
* envy and back-biting

These traits make progress towards intuition and subtle awareness impossible, and goad the human mind towards narrowness and crudity. They are hard to dislodge, and strong methods are required to remove them.

Spirituality is the panacea to overcome these fetters and enemies. For this reason the greatest good in the world comes from spiritual minded social reformers/revolutionaries who are doing Intuitional Practice, not from materialists and atheists.

KaD
KaD
November 18, 2013 6:15 pm

I know some wonderful atheist people who are nothing like this. Unfortunately it’s a sign of the times and our culture you get these whack jobs in every area. Like this animal right thug: http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/peta-activist-really-enthusiastic-about-raping-women/

And if you think that’s bad you should have to deal with the pit bull advocates. Check out this tirade aimed at a man whose little boy was brutally mauled to death the babysitters pit bulls: http://maultalk.wordpress.com/2013/07/12/pit-sociopath/

Hollow man
Hollow man
November 18, 2013 6:57 pm

Kinda sounds like a gays. There is a faction of gays which are the same way.

flash
flash
November 18, 2013 7:24 pm

Every time I write an article that mentions god – even if used as a descriptive reference to “the gods” – I get insulting and arrogant comments from atheists. And it’s not just me; you can see the same thing all over the Internet.

And, here I was thinking it was just the angry atheists on TBP that frothed at the mouth every time God was mentioned.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 18, 2013 7:43 pm

Atheism is growing. I don’t oppose atheism I disagree with it.

For anyone who wants to willingly hear the word of God, as I know it, I’m willing to oblige. For those who don’t I do not force my religion upon them. It has to be a choice made of a persons own free will based on religions merit.

My opinion on atheism is that besides being misguided, for decades its conveniently flown under the radar, high lighting every mistake religion ever made and riding religions coat tails, but the growth will thrust atheism into the spot light. Those who subscribe to atheism ought to prepare for the spot lights scrutiny.

You will need a boat load of luck navigating the waters and expect to run aground in the shallows frequently. As you will learn, the more weight you load in the boats hold the deeper water its draft needs to sail.

Atheism will need to have its own merit to survive. Merely opposing religion wont hold water.

I do not envy the position atheism is going to get boxed into so to atheists I say good luck!

juan
juan
November 18, 2013 11:56 pm

The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.”
They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds;
There is no one who does good.
The LORD has looked down from heaven upon the sons of men
To see if there are any who understand, Who seek after God.…

ZombieDawg
ZombieDawg
November 19, 2013 12:51 am

“The God Delusion”..mumble mumble…
“When Prophecy Fails”..mumble mumble

No, praying to an extra-terrestrial deity is like bacteria lining up in a petri dish worshiping their human creators.
Even if one of the thousands of Gods prayed to does exist, why worship it, when it is billions of years more advanced (through evolution, cough cough) than you, and you oh little human are the mere bacteria in the equation.
Where would any religion be if children weren’t brainwashed into such beliefs before the age of reason…
So God doesn’t exist. So what !
So God does exist. So what!
Who cares. Move along and pretend you actually have a worthwhile life…

MuckAbout
MuckAbout
November 19, 2013 5:20 pm

This isn’t a good enough post to get into a religious/atheist rant over.

Anyone who has been reading TBP for a year or two knows where I am on the subject anyway, so have a good evening.

MA

juan
juan
November 20, 2013 12:52 am

ZombieDawg, look at MA’s post above to see how a gentleman disagrees.