WILL BOOMERS END UP EATING ALPO?

Another good article from http://www.mybudget360.com/.

At this point it doesn’t matter whether you were lured into the fantasy of a cushy retirement by Wall Street shysters or you decided to live for today with a leased BMW and a McMansion twice the size of what you needed or you thought you could retire off your internet stock profits and never ending equity in your house or you were just a dumbass and forgot to save for your retirement – YOU’RE PRETTY MUCH SCREWED. Stocks aren’t going up in the next decade. Bonds will fall in the next decade. And most of the Boomers have less than $100,000 saved for retirement. I hope they like the taste of Alpo.

Middle class retirement now largely a postcard fantasy – How Wall Street fabricated a buy and hold fairytale and jumped ship with taxpayer golden parachutes. Did baby boomers think about who they would be selling those 401k and pension stocks to?

The days of dreaming about long days playing golf on a green course and taking luxurious cruises around the world are appearing more and more like a foggy memory for those in the middle class planning for retirement.  As Wall Street bankers and hedge fund managers rob the public blind, the mission statement sold to baby boomers is starting to become a large bait and switch catchy enough to make it on a Hallmark card.  For decades Wall Street begged and lured the public in either directly or through pension funds into their web of easy money.  Save $100 a month and you’ll retire a millionaire!  As it turns out, the golden parachute was only available to a tiny fraction of the population while the oligarchy in the financial sector offloads their toxic bets onto the taxpayers struggling balance sheet.  The end game?  No retirement.  At least no retirement like those plastered on glossy mutual fund brochures.  What the Wall Street banking charlatans failed to tell you is that you eventually need to sell those stocks to use the money for real world spending.  What they also failed to mention is that the baby boomer generation is now going to sell into unrelenting headwinds of demographics bringing on a younger and poorer generation to purchase their stocks.  Of course Social Security is in the crosshairs of the financial elite since they already secured their financial piece of the pie.  You know things are bad when the Federal Reserve is stating that stocks are not exactly a winners bet in the years going forward.

Retirement becoming more of a postcard fantasy

The middle class has been pillaged and ransacked by financial thievery for decades.  The debt bubble and mass delusion is now imploding.  The graft and con games taking place in the financial sector would be comical if they weren’t so real and economically tragic.  The Federal Reserve has given covert loans to big banks while big banks publicly stating all was well.  The Federal Reserve has grown their balance sheet to a stunning $2.8+ trillion of questionable assets and other junk with little redeemable market value.  It would have a hard time selling these items on eBay let alone the natural marketplace.  There is no easier way to make a profit than stealing from the taxpayer.  Of course the problems in the system are coming at the expense of the working and middle class.  For those who bought into the Wall Street mantra of buy and hold, making a profit has gotten much harder:

annualized rate of returns

This is fascinating data to look at.  This decade has been horrible for stocks.  The S&P 500 stands today where it did in 1998.  The massive stock volatility is simply a reflection of the problems deep in our financial system.  The above chart examines P/E ratios over time.  Really fascinating information but the Fed study finds that P/E ratios are likely to go lower because of demographic shifts and also the reality that we have a lower wage employment force dominating our economy.  The latest decade is a reflection of the bubble era machinery that has hoisted up the financial sector into an untouchable corner yet middle class Americans have taken it squarely in their stock portfolios.  Why?  Because Wall Street has been preaching buy and hold as if it were some patriotic mission but many of these hedge funds and banking managers have placed bets that openly aim against American middle class success.  In fact, some have made bets on flat out American failure and have made billions of dollars with lower tax rates that are given to hedge funds.

The stock market casino

The stock market has been on a wild ride for well over a decade:

PE Expansion Contraction

Source:  Mish Global Economic Analysis Blog

You have a crazy expansion in the 1980s and 1990s with the peak productive years of baby boomers but also the carefree attitude with the debt bubble and the “deficits don’t matter” mentality that has harmed this nation and is leaving the Eurozone in tatters.  Of course all of that has come to a crashing halt first with the tech bubble bursting and then the real estate bubble imploding.  So you have to ask, when these baby boomers sell out of their 401ks and pension plans who will buy the stocks?  The 46,000,000 Americans on food stamps?  Or what above the average per capita worker making $25,000 a year?  Household incomes have been stagnant for well over a decade:

real-household-median-income1

To use an often quoted cliché, this is the perfect financial storm.  For the financially and politically connected the free market rules do not apply.  For the working and middle class they do.  This massive contraction is happening when millions are entering the retirement pipeline.  Now it would be one thing if people had vibrant retirement accounts.  1 out of 3 Americans have no savings account.  But for those with a retirement account they likely do not have funds to support their life as they age and this is seen in a Transamerica retirement study:

“Workers estimate their retirement savings needs at $600,000 (median), but in comparison, fewer than one-third (30 percent) have currently saved more than $100,000 in all household retirement accounts.”

And the fears most have are based on real life issues:

retirement fears

Source:  Transamerica

These aren’t fears about not having enough yachts or trips to Paris but whether they will eat decent food or Alpo.  Workers are accurate in how much they need but less than one third have even saved $100,000 or more for retirement.  For a median household income pulling in $50,000 a year in working years, the funds would likely last 3 or 4 years.  The biggest fear is outliving the money while coming in at a close second is simply not meeting basic family needs.  The next fear is cuts to Social Security because of course, the bankers and investment banks had to get their bailouts first before setting the U.S. economy on fire.

The Federal Reserve study found that P/E ratios are likely to become compressed as time goes on:

pe ratios moving forward

Between 1981 and 2000, as baby boomers reached their peak working and saving ages, the M/O ratio increased from about 0.18 to about 0.74. During the same period, the P/E ratio tripled from about 8 to 24. In the 2000s, as the baby boom generation started aging and the baby bust generation started to reach prime working and saving ages, the M/O and P/E ratios both declined substantially. Statistical analysis confirms this correlation. In our model, we obtain a statistically and economically significant estimate of the relationship between the P/E and M/O ratios. We estimate that the M/O ratio explains about 61% of the movements in the P/E ratio during the sample period. In other words, the M/O ratio predicts long-run trends in the P/E ratio well.”

In other words, lots of money chasing the Wall Street illusion yet there will be fewer (poorer) buyers ahead.  The P/E ratios surged when baby boomers entered their peak earnings years.  Given the massive problems in our economy the fact that P/E will take it on the chin is no surprise.  What is more stunning is the fact that no real financial reform has taken place and that the political system is so utterly broken.  Money has infiltrated politics to a degree never before seen.  We have career politicians in the SEC basically training for plush gigs at Goldman Sachs or Morgan Stanley.  A revolving door out of D.C. and into big investment banks and back to D.C.  No wonder why there has been no true enforcement of the investment banks when many are simply using it as a training ground for future jobs!  If the working and middle class actually saw what went on trading floors they would never even think about playing the stock market.  The fact that we have millions now needing to dump stocks into the open market is simply another issue we will be facing.  These are people that have to sell (you can’t eat your stocks or pay for a medical bill with a stock).  Many are now realizing after a lifetime of work that retirement only meant more work with fewer benefits to compensate for the big banking bailouts.

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Colma Rising
Colma Rising
August 28, 2011 9:23 pm

Want to fight?

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Fight me!!!

AWD
AWD
August 28, 2011 9:24 pm

lipoh:

Thanks for the clarification.

I realize we’re not running a boarding school here, but the guy has made an effort against the likes of Fred and Cathy. On this place, nobody is off limits. If somebody honestly pisses you off, then honestly go after ’em. Newbies aren’t about to run anybody off anyway.

AWD
AWD
August 28, 2011 9:28 pm

Colma sayz:

WTF did I post last night? Fuck, my head hurts. Damn Jack Daniels…

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llpoh
llpoh
August 28, 2011 9:32 pm

Colma – I knew you’d be up for it! Sic him!

AWD – no one is off limits, for sure. And I acknowledge his early efforts, which is why I am being reasonable and calm. But sensetti doesn’t need to go out of his way to pick fights with the established characters here. He had no call to motherfuck ragman that I can see, and I looked two or three times to check. And there is no way he will run off ragman. The problem is just the opposite – he could call a never-ending shit storm down upon himself that he might not be able to survive.

I know the answer newbies give – you cannot run me off, yadda yadda – but I have never seen anyone survive a never ending shit storm administered by the big dogs. There are plenty of worthy adversaries to cut his teeth on. Don’t pick fights with the old dogs for no reason ’cause the fuckers bite back and they run in packs when it suits them.

llpoh
llpoh
August 28, 2011 9:34 pm

Colma last night:

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AWD
AWD
August 28, 2011 9:41 pm

With Colma passed out, the girls had to entertain themselves….

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matt
matt
August 28, 2011 9:50 pm

Coma, (used to be Colma)
Don’t fuck with Jack, you know that.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
August 28, 2011 9:55 pm

Hey I have no regrets… just the drunk typos when I was trying to do weather rerporting. Don’t give me too much grief, the board’s dead on weekends and needs a little action…

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It was a hell of a week. At least I wasn’t grumpy…

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Do I look grumpy? (Back left, Colma breaking wind on the patio).

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
August 28, 2011 9:58 pm

matt:

We polished off a costco jug… yum yum.

How was the yager and beer? I shiver at the thought…

AWD
AWD
August 28, 2011 10:07 pm

Colma:

They usually call back, but I have to give them a credit card number first.

My place; boob beer followed by two-way boob luge….

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Colma Rising
Colma Rising
August 28, 2011 10:11 pm

Hey, we’re getting sidetracked…

BBES!!!

AWD
AWD
August 28, 2011 10:14 pm

I’m a dumb fuck, but what does BBES stand for?

llpoh
llpoh
August 28, 2011 10:16 pm

AWD shows his newbieness. ES = eat shit. You can figure out the rest.

AWD
AWD
August 28, 2011 10:19 pm

Lipoh:

I’ll make you a deal. Tell me what BB is for, and I’ll tell you what an osteomyochondrosarcoma is.

llpoh
llpoh
August 28, 2011 10:24 pm

SADES. Prize to the first person to decode this. Third word is Doctor.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
August 28, 2011 10:24 pm

Baby Boomers Eat Shit, or to be more thread specific, BBEA (Baby Boomer Eat Alpo).

Most here are boomers so it’s fun to throw up there… most TBPers don’t ES.

AWD
AWD
August 28, 2011 10:26 pm

I don’t spend much time watching “Wheel of Fortune.”

I asked for it. I should have kept my mouth shut.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
August 28, 2011 10:26 pm

Stupid Ass Doctors Eat Salmon

AWD
AWD
August 28, 2011 10:28 pm

Oh, what fun.

Thank you Colma. I just asked a simple question.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
August 28, 2011 10:29 pm

Monkey poo!

AWD
AWD
August 28, 2011 10:29 pm

SADSFUSP

Lipoh get’s this one, a $100 Amazon gift card…

llpoh
llpoh
August 28, 2011 10:33 pm

Colma – getting warm. First two words are Smart Ass.

AWD – too many letters for me. I am good with four letter words, tho.

AWD
AWD
August 28, 2011 10:33 pm

Time’s up. Sorry Lipoh, no gift card.

Stupid Ass Doctors Stick Fingers Up Smelly Pussy.

AWD
AWD
August 28, 2011 10:39 pm

Lipoh:

Smart Ass Doctors Eat Steak? Shinola? Oh, yea, Shit…

llpoh
llpoh
August 28, 2011 10:41 pm

And that is why I never wanted to be a doctor. The smelly holes they explore were just too much for my delicate sensibilities.

AWD
AWD
August 28, 2011 10:46 pm

Yea, after med school I never looked at koochy the same way again. And then the OB rotation. Oh my God, it’s a disgusting mess. Never looked at roast beef the same again after dissecting cadavers.

llpoh
llpoh
August 28, 2011 11:02 pm

And we will not even mention what gynecologists get up to every day. I mean, it would put you off forever.

sensetti
sensetti
August 28, 2011 11:12 pm

That was sensetti above

AWD
AWD
August 28, 2011 11:18 pm

Sensetti:

Your learning kid. Lipoh makes extra money by putting coal in his ass, waiting 2 weeks, and withdrawing diamonds for sale to Debeers. As Admin says, this is the wild west. Just don’t let any of the obvious douchebags shit on you and you’ll be fine. If you find yourself in a shit storm you caused. Politely apologize or keep throwing shit, the choice is yours.

sensetti
sensetti
August 28, 2011 11:24 pm

@ AWD

Will do Doc

llpoh
llpoh
August 28, 2011 11:28 pm

sensetti – you are doing fine. I too noticed the douchebag comment – he was trying to bait a few folks, not start a real war. Note him trying to draw the Admin out re Kentucky Fried Chicken lady.

A person to also practice on is Flash. He is good for a few rounds, usually. To bad RE isn’t hanging around, as he was a real opportunity.

And should a sorry ass bastard named Smokey ever get his ass back here – approach him with extreme caution. You might prod him just for fun, to see what happens, if he comes back. I hear he is on hiatus until October/Thanksgiving.

llpoh
llpoh
August 28, 2011 11:30 pm

Sensetti – and when you are really, really ready – call the Admin a lousy warmongering baby-killing Neocon. He just loves it when people do that. Really.

sensetti
sensetti
August 28, 2011 11:31 pm

Will do llpoh

sensetti
sensetti
August 28, 2011 11:33 pm

@ llpho

I’ll just do that.

Well, maybe not

marissa
marissa
August 29, 2011 12:05 am

@sensetti

Pay no attention to these wankers. They’re a bunch of pussy pantie-waists who freak out when Homeland Security calls them up for a friendly chat.

All rough talk on the outside, warm and fuzzy on the inside. And they like fat girls.

llpoh
llpoh
August 29, 2011 12:26 am

Ooh fat girls. What is not to like! Just not too fat. Salma fat is just right.

Opinionated Bloviator
Opinionated Bloviator
August 29, 2011 8:45 am

Those that are placing bets on America’s failure are the smart money and will be raking it in over the next few years.

Boomers won’t get Alpo, carrot cat food maybe, but Alpo will be out of their budget…

Marilyn
Marilyn
October 22, 2011 1:17 pm

I am a babyboomer and very happy. Stop blaming the babyboomers that did not cause the problems. It was the rich few. It was a persent of people young and old that ripped people off. I am glad I invested in oil and gold, then sold out. I am sitting pretty. Not only will I eat well forever, and have any medical I need. I also married a great man 17 years my junior. I am happy and taken care of til I die. Probably in my hundreds. (maybe 110 yrs old like some family members around the world) YOU MAKE YOUR OWN LUCK! I am tire of people blaming everyone else but yourself.
My hubby has had a job since 16 years old. If you work hard you will reap the rewards. But if you do not work hard and whine “I can’t take a job less then $12.00 an hour;” It is your own fault not getting what you need. Get off unemployment! Get off your ___ and get a job and live in the real world! Merry Christmas all.

Squirmy
Squirmy
April 1, 2016 7:35 pm

Good riddance Baby Boomers. I will rejoice when the last of your greedy generation becomes worm food. You are rude, disrespectful, petulant jerks. The “me” ogeneration, or shall we say the selfish, self-centered, self-indulged, wasteful generation will be a lesson of what not to be for future generations to study. You will go down in the history books as the big “mistake” that should’ve never been. So…burn through your children’s inheritance, buy your sport cars, drink your overpriced wine because the piper will be calling real soon.

Ed
Ed
April 1, 2016 8:04 pm

Dear Squirmy, fuck you to death. Eat a bowl of shit.

Regards,
your boomer pal,
Ed

Squirmy
Squirmy
April 2, 2016 3:43 pm

How great for Marilyn that she is a kept and taken care of spoiled American woman. Yippee. She has no accountability, nor does she have the intellect to comprehend the destruction this “me generation” has caused. The major corporate scandals, the ones responsible where the greedy boomers which ruled thepower structure and leadership positions. It was not Gen Y, or shall we say Millenials (too young) nor was it Gen x as the the acting CFO’s and CEO’s. No, it was your generation… big shocker. Once more, Marilyn fails to understand economics and timing. Your geneation saw nothing but booms, stock market, housing, etc. It’s not that you’re so smart, but the timing (no result of your hard work) was perfect. This is just another example of the arrogance of the boomers. As per the comment by Ed, your comment is fairly typical and exacty as expected, thanks for proving my point.