“One thing for sure, I can piss off the Admin more than anyone else”
Idk, HZK does a pretty good job some days.
LLPOH
October 22, 2012 9:39 pm
TPC – yes it does. You obviously have no idea as yet about how things are around here. I win when I say I win. And I always fucking win. Too bad for you.
Kill Bill
October 22, 2012 9:40 pm
Who’s going to support Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, entitlements, 54% of the population living off the government, -AWD
BB
Debts that cant be paid wont.
Debts that can be printed away will.
Eddie
October 22, 2012 9:40 pm
Jokes?
Incest?
I didn’t say anything about incest. My kids are adults, and I give them a place to live.That’s all. I have a big house, and there is plenty of room. I enjoy having family. Most people today don’t even know what family really is, imho.
For those of you jokers who expressed an interest in my daughters…would you like to see my gun collection? It’s extensive, and I’m a good shot.
In the words of the late Ronald Reagan, ” Make my day.”
LLPOH
October 22, 2012 9:41 pm
Hope does a reasonable job of pissing of the Admin. But it is no contest as for who does it best. Check out some of the old OWS threads for some prime examples. I thought my video screen was going to explode.
AWD
October 22, 2012 9:43 pm
I have daughters. I carry a spare scalpel around, in case I need to perform a field castration.
ThePessimisticChemist
October 22, 2012 9:45 pm
@LLPOH “TPC – yes it does. You obviously have no idea as yet about how things are around here. I win when I say I win. And I always fucking win. Too bad for you.”
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“Check out some of the old OWS threads for some prime examples.”
Hell no, I spend too much time on this website as it is.
Kill Bill
October 22, 2012 9:45 pm
I was born in 1960 and never attended anything like the pictures above.
I faked my birth certificate so I could get a job at 15.
LLPOH
October 22, 2012 9:46 pm
Eddie – you offering those guns as dowry?
Kill Bill
October 22, 2012 9:49 pm
Meh, the hippies got their signs wrong.
War makes taxes, its where ours started.
Make War
Make Taxes
If they would have gone with that maybe people would have paid more attention 8=) (Thats a monkey face Stucky)
LLPOH
October 22, 2012 9:51 pm
Admin – I am too young for the sixties. My friends and acquaintances were farm folk and rural sorts for the most part. We did get bussed into the city for high school – we farm boys were picked on for a while, until we kicked shit out of a bunch of the so called toughs, then they left us alone.
My experience is my experience. I do not hire Ivy Leaguers, nor do college grads tend to come my way (many of them should, but will not). I see what I see. And it is a large enough sample to have made an impression on me.
LLPOH
October 22, 2012 9:54 pm
My elders were from the dustbowl in the 1930’s. THey mised the fun of the 20s I guess. But the 30s (and 40s) made an impression, I kid you not.
The scorned and ridiculed youth of the 1920s and 1930s were the ones who stormed the beaches of Normandy. It wasn’t because they wanted to, it was because they had to.
Today’s youth will be forced to take on a similar task in the next decade.
Kepi
October 22, 2012 10:02 pm
LLOPH, one of the things I’ve noticed about employers is that they want their employees to enjoy working. That’s silly. If I enjoyed it that much, I’d be willing to pay you! That’s not to say I’m work shy, or to say I don’t take a degree of pride in my work. I do, I make it a point to do my job as best I can even when everything around me is totally failing. However, if I’m starting to enjoy being at my job rather than going home to my family, and my video games, and my home improvement projects… I’m looking for a new job because I’ve mastered this and I need to find something that’ll pay more and is more difficult. Work should be a pain in the ass.
LLPOH
October 22, 2012 10:07 pm
Kepi – I am not talking about enjoying working – I am not a big believer in the idea that work should be enjoyed. Work is work and liesure is liesure.
But the fact is, you are bad-mothing your employers and company. You call them idiots and disparage their decisions. I have no opinion re the truth or otherwise of that. However, that your opinion is so low of them/it is a bad thing, and will 1) hurt you personally and 2) inevitably be discovered by your employers. A more positive attitude toward the situation will do you good.
Administrator
Author
October 22, 2012 10:08 pm
LLPOH after Admin smacks him around, makes a comment about IQ, and accuses him of being a capitalist pig who doesn’t pay enough taxes.
AWD
October 22, 2012 10:08 pm
This post makes it official
The American dream is over.
Unless we change the American dream to being dependent on the government or mom and dad’s basement.
LLPOH
October 22, 2012 10:11 pm
Admin – I hpe they are not subjected to war. I think they will be subjected to horrible economic tribulation, and I think they need to prepare themselves for such, and need to abandon any ideas of entitlement, as it will hurt them in their preparation for what is coming. And something bad this way comes. The prepared will thrive, and those not, not.
By the way, most youths of the 20s and 30s would certainly be farm folk, and not the high-living young we see in the movies. They would have been hardened by physical labor.
AWD
October 22, 2012 10:13 pm
One year’s welfare spending would pay off all student loans. Give the FSA a year to fend for themselves. Give the kids a chance in life.
LLPOH
October 22, 2012 10:13 pm
Admin – that is not me! My head would be exploding if you mentioned I do not pay sufficient tax.
Don’t make me start talking about thumb rings – you know you need to watch your blood pressure.
Stucky
October 22, 2012 10:14 pm
Kepi — you’re lenght response to me was elegant and appreciated. BTW, what’s a “Kepi”?
Kepi and llpoh
I have no idea what the hell you are talking about not enjoying work. I loved my job at HP, every single aspect of it. Meeting so many people from the floor to the office, learning and becoming involved in so many different types of businesses, the tremendous amount of money they spent on training me, and on and on. I loved it all. Does that mean I didn’t love coming home to the kids? Of course not. I have a big heart, and I can love many. lol
Administrator
Author
October 22, 2012 10:19 pm
LLPOH
The migration to cities from the farms had mostly taken place. Only 30% of the population lived on farms in the 1930s.
There has not been a Fourth Turning without an all-out war. I doubt the youth of today will be able to sidestep an armed conflict.
I know my kids are under no impression that they will get any entitlements. Their old man has informed them that my generation and previous generations have screwed them and given them a bill for $100 trillion.
LLPOH
October 22, 2012 10:26 pm
I thought it was around 40 odd percent but you are probably right. it was 40% in 1900.
As ever, Admin, we are not too far apart in what we think may happen. Those minor differences sure make for some whoper fights. I truly hope the war stuff is wrong.
LLPOH
October 22, 2012 10:28 pm
Stuck – I just think it is not a realistic expectation that work will be loved. Work is work. And a lot of it isn’t nice. Such is life.
Kill Bill
October 22, 2012 10:53 pm
Sometimes you have to do work you dont enjoy.
It does make it easier when you do work that you enjoy doing.
I would jump off a bridge doing what admin does. And he would probably throw himself in the intake of a jet engine if he did what I liked.
IMO, pick your career not based on expected income but because of what you like to do. The world has enough grumps.
Stucky
October 22, 2012 10:58 pm
llpoh
I guess I was just lucky.
(But not in every job.)
Kepi
October 22, 2012 10:59 pm
I bad mouth my employers because they do things that frequently get in the way of productivity and safety, and if it weren’t for our lower management having our backs, we’d be in a lot of trouble. I’m not the sort who thinks all boomers are making bad decisions, but the majority I’ve seen are. When I started this job, our upper management was on point, and ensured that we were freed up to do our jobs. Now, they want us to dump a ton of time reading emails and doing unnecessary paper work.
I wouldn’t have a huge problem with this except we can’t access the internet on our consoles, so we have to get up and go and read these e-mails when we should be working. I work in a teamwork position, one person gets up, it puts extra workload on all of us until they get back. Sometimes you’ll get an excess of 50 things to read and only a maximum of 5 will be related directly to your job. We’re doing pointless paperwork in between doing actual work related to the product, and it’s a safety issue because it’s a distraction.
Still on safety, they’ve repeatedly changed equipment and layout which makes things more noisy and therefore more distracting and more dangerous. They buy these materials and make these changes without ever consulting anyone who actually works the job, and then when you tell them it isn’t conducive to the job and it’s hindering the work, they bitch and moan about how ungreatful you are. I’m not saying I expect my employer to be perfect, but I do expect them to be able to take constructive criticism, acknowledge problems, and fix them in a timely manner. They don’t.
And despite the fact that I’ve told them all this before I’m still working here mainly because I’m pretty much amazing at what I do, yet unfortunately I haven’t been offered a job that will match my salary with benefits. I get work isn’t supposed to be perfect, but our jobs are hard enough without our own guys getting in our way and then acting pigheaded about it.
Kill Bill
October 22, 2012 11:08 pm
LoL, Kepi, there is not a single company I have worked at that wasnt alot like Dilbert. Boomers or not.
Its what upper management does.
We had a saying “Those that can do, those that cant, manage”
Ron
October 22, 2012 11:17 pm
If your a good employer word gets around and people show up asking for a job.
Human nature is to do as little work as possible for as much as possible.
I almost worked myself to death and its mostly for paying basic bills.I did manage to get ahead some.You have to decide for yourself what you want to do.
Kepi
October 22, 2012 11:25 pm
The difference is the reasoning. I don’t expect someone not to make mistakes, but I do expect to be able to remedy problems created when they arise. Because it’s idealistic boomers doing the reasoning, their sacred cow issue is far more important to them than things like your coworkers hearing eachother when they need to.
Kepi
October 22, 2012 11:27 pm
Oh, and a Kepi is a hat that was worn during the civil war by the rank and file.
Kill Bill
October 22, 2012 11:40 pm
Because it’s idealistic boomers doing the reasoning, -Kepi
Its not boomers doing the reasoning, its humans doing the reasoning. =)
DaveL
October 22, 2012 11:51 pm
I thought about moving in with my parents, but decided when the time comes, to get cremated rather than buried.
Llpoh
October 22, 2012 11:55 pm
Kepi – I expect my employees not to make mistakes. Mistakes do happen, but they are avoidable. Accidents tend to be unavoidable. I do not believe in mistakes. Every mistake made is handled in some way, and the way is never “do not worry about it, everyone makes mistakes”. Fuck that. People do not get fired for mistakes, but they sure as hell get told they made one, why they made it is determined, and corrective action is implemented. They do not get fired unless making mistakes is ahabit. I do not positively reinforce the making of mistakes, that is for sure.
Set high standards, and require they be met.
Kill Bill
October 22, 2012 11:59 pm
No, dont approach the problem because its hard for me to hear and unsafe (which it may be). Approach it from a managerial standpoint.
I think that if we do this (move equipment) that it will increase productivity and save future safety costs.
Managers are mostly suck ups, if you give them an idea that increases their suck up power they will work harder to implement their (your) idea.
This does not apply to such employers as llpoh, however, he has been where you are. These tactics dont work.
So compliment them on their smarts. =)
Im joking in the line above. That wont work either.
Kepi
October 22, 2012 11:59 pm
Humans maybe dumb, but the reasoning always being made in favor of meeting certain ideals? That’s where I’m pointing out the boomers. Sure, every generation has it’s terrible terrible blind spots. That’s part of why the world turns. However, there’s supposed to be a social dialog that happens that restrains power from finding itself soley in the hands of one generation. Unfortunately this has been the unintended result of birthcontrol and abortion (and not that I’m opposed to either, we as a society have gone quite a bit overboard with it, though), which has left our social structure without the numbers to effectively prevent a consolidation of power.
Kill Bill
October 23, 2012 12:07 am
However, there’s supposed to be a social dialog that happens that restrains power from finding itself soley in the hands of one generation. -Kepi
Where would I find the information to back this claim?
ThePessimisticChemist
October 23, 2012 12:13 am
@KB
Right here
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Kepi
October 23, 2012 12:18 am
Llpoh, at my job, you don’t have time to make that distinction. If there’s a mistake or an accident or however you want to phrase it, and it doesn’t get corrected almost immediately by you or the person who catches it everyone will catch hell for it.
There’s a grace period of a few seconds, but if you didn’t do it right the first time, you don’t have time to correct it.
Kill Bill
October 23, 2012 12:20 am
Power has always concentrated in fewer and fewer hands because money concentrates in fewer and fewer hands.
That hasnt changed over thousands of years and Im not saying I agree with that.
~~~~~
Thats funny TPC.
Ought to give that person a plexautomy.
Kepi
October 23, 2012 12:21 am
KB, it’s in The Fourth Turning, I don’t have my copy of it right in front of me, but specifically it’s in the part where they’re talking about preparing for the crisis, and their notes to the boomers.
Kill Bill
October 23, 2012 12:24 am
What is it that your company produces Kepi?
I dont need know the state or name of the company.
Kill Bill
October 23, 2012 12:25 am
KB, it’s in The Fourth Turning, I don’t have my copy of it right in front of me, but specifically it’s in the part where they’re talking about preparing for the crisis, and their notes to the boomers. -Kepi
You do realize that Strauss and Howe, due to their birthdates are ‘boomers’?
Kill Bill
October 23, 2012 12:28 am
It is like I am having a conversation with SAH
Kill Bill
October 23, 2012 12:32 am
How many times have humans, thru history, been told this would happen at X time and X date only to see their prophecy, built by theory, go unfulfilled?
Strauss is as full of shit as a double assed christmas turkey.
Colma Rising
October 23, 2012 12:40 am
Not living with multiple generations under one roof is an unnatural deviation from the norm of human existence.
It will return to the mean, and pretending that someone who lives with their folks is abnormal is silly.
I’ll probably have one of or both of my parents knocking on MY door for a place in the next decade. Not kidding.
Joy.
I wish I could jump online for these threads during the week more.
BBES
Colma Rising
October 23, 2012 1:00 am
Bill: Stick to subjects you know about.
Strauss and Howe nailed some cycles down and did so quite accurately.
Again, as I warned you many times before, you look like a fool commenting on books you haven’t read.
Hippie.
Kepi
October 23, 2012 1:16 am
It’s the Police and Fire Depatment, I’m in dispatch.
And yes, I realize they’re boomers. Just because you’ve got some boomers who’ve produced something good or right doesn’t mean they’re always right. It means they produced a work that was good, awesome. Doesn’t mean that boomers have met the standards necessary to do the job for their archetype.
Kepi
October 23, 2012 1:29 am
Oh, trust me, I agree that we’re going back to multifamily living, and that’s the natural order and the right order for people… It’s the terms and conditions that it happens under that I care about Colma.
I moved out and I purchased property because if we’re gonna be living together again, I want them to fully understand that they’re entering my house, not vice versa.
Bruce
October 23, 2012 6:27 am
I haven’t been an employee since a few years out of high school and damn glad I did not waste my life in the service of some damn employer.
I’ve had a good life because others worked damn hard for me to have it. All I had to do was reward them with a modest pay check, some benefits, occasional recognition bullshit like trophies and an extra bone here and there. Surprisingly that was enough for most and some were even ticked pink to have such a good job.
Sure there was some stress but not the stress of struggling and straining to keep a roof over your head, food on the table, the lights on and making payments on a crap mobile month in and month out year after year like my mom did. And then back to work so you can struggle your ass off some more. That’s real stress, that’s the lives of chronic desperation vast numbers deal with.
I believe in honorable, noble hard work, dedication and dependability…………. of people who work for me.
Maybe the Ojaculatetor was right. “You didn’t build that”. Maybe they built it, but I owned it so fuck em and feed em fish heads.
Goldorack
October 23, 2012 8:52 am
Llpoh: ” I was working 110+ hours a week”
Llpoh, did you ever check your children’s DNA?
Note that you could have sold a kidney and invest the resulting benefit in your production unit. Chinese would do so. see? you’re a pussy.
@LLPOH –
“One thing for sure, I can piss off the Admin more than anyone else”
Idk, HZK does a pretty good job some days.
TPC – yes it does. You obviously have no idea as yet about how things are around here. I win when I say I win. And I always fucking win. Too bad for you.
Who’s going to support Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, entitlements, 54% of the population living off the government, -AWD
BB
Debts that cant be paid wont.
Debts that can be printed away will.
Jokes?
Incest?
I didn’t say anything about incest. My kids are adults, and I give them a place to live.That’s all. I have a big house, and there is plenty of room. I enjoy having family. Most people today don’t even know what family really is, imho.
For those of you jokers who expressed an interest in my daughters…would you like to see my gun collection? It’s extensive, and I’m a good shot.
In the words of the late Ronald Reagan, ” Make my day.”
Hope does a reasonable job of pissing of the Admin. But it is no contest as for who does it best. Check out some of the old OWS threads for some prime examples. I thought my video screen was going to explode.
I have daughters. I carry a spare scalpel around, in case I need to perform a field castration.
@LLPOH “TPC – yes it does. You obviously have no idea as yet about how things are around here. I win when I say I win. And I always fucking win. Too bad for you.”
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“Check out some of the old OWS threads for some prime examples.”
Hell no, I spend too much time on this website as it is.
I was born in 1960 and never attended anything like the pictures above.
I faked my birth certificate so I could get a job at 15.
Eddie – you offering those guns as dowry?
Meh, the hippies got their signs wrong.
War makes taxes, its where ours started.
Make War
Make Taxes
If they would have gone with that maybe people would have paid more attention 8=) (Thats a monkey face Stucky)
Admin – I am too young for the sixties. My friends and acquaintances were farm folk and rural sorts for the most part. We did get bussed into the city for high school – we farm boys were picked on for a while, until we kicked shit out of a bunch of the so called toughs, then they left us alone.
My experience is my experience. I do not hire Ivy Leaguers, nor do college grads tend to come my way (many of them should, but will not). I see what I see. And it is a large enough sample to have made an impression on me.
My elders were from the dustbowl in the 1930’s. THey mised the fun of the 20s I guess. But the 30s (and 40s) made an impression, I kid you not.
The scorned and ridiculed youth of the 1920s and 1930s were the ones who stormed the beaches of Normandy. It wasn’t because they wanted to, it was because they had to.
Today’s youth will be forced to take on a similar task in the next decade.
LLOPH, one of the things I’ve noticed about employers is that they want their employees to enjoy working. That’s silly. If I enjoyed it that much, I’d be willing to pay you! That’s not to say I’m work shy, or to say I don’t take a degree of pride in my work. I do, I make it a point to do my job as best I can even when everything around me is totally failing. However, if I’m starting to enjoy being at my job rather than going home to my family, and my video games, and my home improvement projects… I’m looking for a new job because I’ve mastered this and I need to find something that’ll pay more and is more difficult. Work should be a pain in the ass.
Kepi – I am not talking about enjoying working – I am not a big believer in the idea that work should be enjoyed. Work is work and liesure is liesure.
But the fact is, you are bad-mothing your employers and company. You call them idiots and disparage their decisions. I have no opinion re the truth or otherwise of that. However, that your opinion is so low of them/it is a bad thing, and will 1) hurt you personally and 2) inevitably be discovered by your employers. A more positive attitude toward the situation will do you good.
LLPOH after Admin smacks him around, makes a comment about IQ, and accuses him of being a capitalist pig who doesn’t pay enough taxes.
This post makes it official
The American dream is over.
Unless we change the American dream to being dependent on the government or mom and dad’s basement.
Admin – I hpe they are not subjected to war. I think they will be subjected to horrible economic tribulation, and I think they need to prepare themselves for such, and need to abandon any ideas of entitlement, as it will hurt them in their preparation for what is coming. And something bad this way comes. The prepared will thrive, and those not, not.
By the way, most youths of the 20s and 30s would certainly be farm folk, and not the high-living young we see in the movies. They would have been hardened by physical labor.
One year’s welfare spending would pay off all student loans. Give the FSA a year to fend for themselves. Give the kids a chance in life.
Admin – that is not me! My head would be exploding if you mentioned I do not pay sufficient tax.
Don’t make me start talking about thumb rings – you know you need to watch your blood pressure.
Kepi — you’re lenght response to me was elegant and appreciated. BTW, what’s a “Kepi”?
Kepi and llpoh
I have no idea what the hell you are talking about not enjoying work. I loved my job at HP, every single aspect of it. Meeting so many people from the floor to the office, learning and becoming involved in so many different types of businesses, the tremendous amount of money they spent on training me, and on and on. I loved it all. Does that mean I didn’t love coming home to the kids? Of course not. I have a big heart, and I can love many. lol
LLPOH
The migration to cities from the farms had mostly taken place. Only 30% of the population lived on farms in the 1930s.
There has not been a Fourth Turning without an all-out war. I doubt the youth of today will be able to sidestep an armed conflict.
I know my kids are under no impression that they will get any entitlements. Their old man has informed them that my generation and previous generations have screwed them and given them a bill for $100 trillion.
I thought it was around 40 odd percent but you are probably right. it was 40% in 1900.
As ever, Admin, we are not too far apart in what we think may happen. Those minor differences sure make for some whoper fights. I truly hope the war stuff is wrong.
Stuck – I just think it is not a realistic expectation that work will be loved. Work is work. And a lot of it isn’t nice. Such is life.
Sometimes you have to do work you dont enjoy.
It does make it easier when you do work that you enjoy doing.
I would jump off a bridge doing what admin does. And he would probably throw himself in the intake of a jet engine if he did what I liked.
IMO, pick your career not based on expected income but because of what you like to do. The world has enough grumps.
llpoh
I guess I was just lucky.
(But not in every job.)
I bad mouth my employers because they do things that frequently get in the way of productivity and safety, and if it weren’t for our lower management having our backs, we’d be in a lot of trouble. I’m not the sort who thinks all boomers are making bad decisions, but the majority I’ve seen are. When I started this job, our upper management was on point, and ensured that we were freed up to do our jobs. Now, they want us to dump a ton of time reading emails and doing unnecessary paper work.
I wouldn’t have a huge problem with this except we can’t access the internet on our consoles, so we have to get up and go and read these e-mails when we should be working. I work in a teamwork position, one person gets up, it puts extra workload on all of us until they get back. Sometimes you’ll get an excess of 50 things to read and only a maximum of 5 will be related directly to your job. We’re doing pointless paperwork in between doing actual work related to the product, and it’s a safety issue because it’s a distraction.
Still on safety, they’ve repeatedly changed equipment and layout which makes things more noisy and therefore more distracting and more dangerous. They buy these materials and make these changes without ever consulting anyone who actually works the job, and then when you tell them it isn’t conducive to the job and it’s hindering the work, they bitch and moan about how ungreatful you are. I’m not saying I expect my employer to be perfect, but I do expect them to be able to take constructive criticism, acknowledge problems, and fix them in a timely manner. They don’t.
And despite the fact that I’ve told them all this before I’m still working here mainly because I’m pretty much amazing at what I do, yet unfortunately I haven’t been offered a job that will match my salary with benefits. I get work isn’t supposed to be perfect, but our jobs are hard enough without our own guys getting in our way and then acting pigheaded about it.
LoL, Kepi, there is not a single company I have worked at that wasnt alot like Dilbert. Boomers or not.
Its what upper management does.
We had a saying “Those that can do, those that cant, manage”
If your a good employer word gets around and people show up asking for a job.
Human nature is to do as little work as possible for as much as possible.
I almost worked myself to death and its mostly for paying basic bills.I did manage to get ahead some.You have to decide for yourself what you want to do.
The difference is the reasoning. I don’t expect someone not to make mistakes, but I do expect to be able to remedy problems created when they arise. Because it’s idealistic boomers doing the reasoning, their sacred cow issue is far more important to them than things like your coworkers hearing eachother when they need to.
Oh, and a Kepi is a hat that was worn during the civil war by the rank and file.
Because it’s idealistic boomers doing the reasoning, -Kepi
Its not boomers doing the reasoning, its humans doing the reasoning. =)
I thought about moving in with my parents, but decided when the time comes, to get cremated rather than buried.
Kepi – I expect my employees not to make mistakes. Mistakes do happen, but they are avoidable. Accidents tend to be unavoidable. I do not believe in mistakes. Every mistake made is handled in some way, and the way is never “do not worry about it, everyone makes mistakes”. Fuck that. People do not get fired for mistakes, but they sure as hell get told they made one, why they made it is determined, and corrective action is implemented. They do not get fired unless making mistakes is ahabit. I do not positively reinforce the making of mistakes, that is for sure.
Set high standards, and require they be met.
No, dont approach the problem because its hard for me to hear and unsafe (which it may be). Approach it from a managerial standpoint.
I think that if we do this (move equipment) that it will increase productivity and save future safety costs.
Managers are mostly suck ups, if you give them an idea that increases their suck up power they will work harder to implement their (your) idea.
This does not apply to such employers as llpoh, however, he has been where you are. These tactics dont work.
So compliment them on their smarts. =)
Im joking in the line above. That wont work either.
Humans maybe dumb, but the reasoning always being made in favor of meeting certain ideals? That’s where I’m pointing out the boomers. Sure, every generation has it’s terrible terrible blind spots. That’s part of why the world turns. However, there’s supposed to be a social dialog that happens that restrains power from finding itself soley in the hands of one generation. Unfortunately this has been the unintended result of birthcontrol and abortion (and not that I’m opposed to either, we as a society have gone quite a bit overboard with it, though), which has left our social structure without the numbers to effectively prevent a consolidation of power.
However, there’s supposed to be a social dialog that happens that restrains power from finding itself soley in the hands of one generation. -Kepi
Where would I find the information to back this claim?
@KB
Right here
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Llpoh, at my job, you don’t have time to make that distinction. If there’s a mistake or an accident or however you want to phrase it, and it doesn’t get corrected almost immediately by you or the person who catches it everyone will catch hell for it.
There’s a grace period of a few seconds, but if you didn’t do it right the first time, you don’t have time to correct it.
Power has always concentrated in fewer and fewer hands because money concentrates in fewer and fewer hands.
That hasnt changed over thousands of years and Im not saying I agree with that.
~~~~~
Thats funny TPC.
Ought to give that person a plexautomy.
KB, it’s in The Fourth Turning, I don’t have my copy of it right in front of me, but specifically it’s in the part where they’re talking about preparing for the crisis, and their notes to the boomers.
What is it that your company produces Kepi?
I dont need know the state or name of the company.
KB, it’s in The Fourth Turning, I don’t have my copy of it right in front of me, but specifically it’s in the part where they’re talking about preparing for the crisis, and their notes to the boomers. -Kepi
You do realize that Strauss and Howe, due to their birthdates are ‘boomers’?
It is like I am having a conversation with SAH
How many times have humans, thru history, been told this would happen at X time and X date only to see their prophecy, built by theory, go unfulfilled?
Strauss is as full of shit as a double assed christmas turkey.
Not living with multiple generations under one roof is an unnatural deviation from the norm of human existence.
It will return to the mean, and pretending that someone who lives with their folks is abnormal is silly.
I’ll probably have one of or both of my parents knocking on MY door for a place in the next decade. Not kidding.
Joy.
I wish I could jump online for these threads during the week more.
BBES
Bill: Stick to subjects you know about.
Strauss and Howe nailed some cycles down and did so quite accurately.
Again, as I warned you many times before, you look like a fool commenting on books you haven’t read.
Hippie.
It’s the Police and Fire Depatment, I’m in dispatch.
And yes, I realize they’re boomers. Just because you’ve got some boomers who’ve produced something good or right doesn’t mean they’re always right. It means they produced a work that was good, awesome. Doesn’t mean that boomers have met the standards necessary to do the job for their archetype.
Oh, trust me, I agree that we’re going back to multifamily living, and that’s the natural order and the right order for people… It’s the terms and conditions that it happens under that I care about Colma.
I moved out and I purchased property because if we’re gonna be living together again, I want them to fully understand that they’re entering my house, not vice versa.
I haven’t been an employee since a few years out of high school and damn glad I did not waste my life in the service of some damn employer.
I’ve had a good life because others worked damn hard for me to have it. All I had to do was reward them with a modest pay check, some benefits, occasional recognition bullshit like trophies and an extra bone here and there. Surprisingly that was enough for most and some were even ticked pink to have such a good job.
Sure there was some stress but not the stress of struggling and straining to keep a roof over your head, food on the table, the lights on and making payments on a crap mobile month in and month out year after year like my mom did. And then back to work so you can struggle your ass off some more. That’s real stress, that’s the lives of chronic desperation vast numbers deal with.
I believe in honorable, noble hard work, dedication and dependability…………. of people who work for me.
Maybe the Ojaculatetor was right. “You didn’t build that”. Maybe they built it, but I owned it so fuck em and feed em fish heads.
Llpoh: ” I was working 110+ hours a week”
Llpoh, did you ever check your children’s DNA?
Note that you could have sold a kidney and invest the resulting benefit in your production unit. Chinese would do so. see? you’re a pussy.