What Am I Gonna Do?

WHAT AM I GONNA DO?

What am I going to do? This question has been foremost in my mind for many months now. Years, really. Then, I saw a comment on the forum, which I believe was mostly antagonistic, asking Mr. Quinn what he was going to do. What’s Jim going to do? Stucky? AWD? What are any of us going to do, for that matter? I thought it might help me to gain some clarity into my own thought processes and help me to flesh out some thoughts I’ve had on the future of our country and our economy.

First, let me begin by saying, “I’m a regular guy.” I’m 42 years old, married for 18 years, I have 3 kids under the age of 10. I work for a living. I am a superintendent for a commercial construction company. The company treats me well. I make above-average income, but not into the 6-figure area. My wife has a part-time job at our church, but that’s primarily because she wants to, not because we need to. In other words, I’m in the 99% percent. Nothing special about me or my family roots.

Now, let me back up a few years: In 2007, I moved to El Paso, TX to participate in one of the largest government spending programs I’ve seen, first-hand. The US Army Corps of Engineers spent a gazillion dollars upgrading Ft. Bliss. Entire cities went up in the desert, in a period of a couple of years. A massive amount of construction. Incredible. And good for my family, and all of El Paso and surrounding area in general. While many portions of the country were hit by the economic crisis of 2008, we were largely insulated from (most) negative effects of that crisis.

This created cognitive dissonance for me. At that time, I was listening to Glenn Beck on the radio. Say what you will about Beck, but his extreme message was enough to cause me to seek other information elsewhere. I couldn’t understand it: I was working and making good money, being offered multiple jobs with more and more money thrown at me, and the rest of the country was unemployed? How can that be? How can the economy be crashing when all around me, when things are booming?

I committed to read and listen to everything I could on the subject. No rabbit hole was too small to go down.  I chased down every lead, every angle I could to figure out what the fuck was going on. The more I learned, the more I wanted to know. I am not necessarily a detail-oriented guy. In other words, many of you can explain the intricacies of the financial system with charts and graphs much better than I can. I grasp the concept of the Fed and our debt-based monetary system at a level I am comfortable with. I don’t understand every chart Jim publishes, but I understand that you can’t pay for debt with more debt.

As a result of my studies, here are some changes I’ve made in my life:

1)    I’ve become a political atheist, with libertarian leanings. In other words, I think the system is fucked but I believe autonomous human beings have the god-given right to be free.

2)    I’ve basically walked away from the church, as an institution, and traditional Christianity, as a religion. Not to go into too much here, but…….well, nevermind.

3)    I got my permaculture design certificate and spend an inordinate amount of time trying to grow my own food and improve my health through good nutrition. I live in a very harsh environment (high desert). You cannot imagine how many times I’ve wanted to throw the garden hose down, and say “Fuck This! This shit is too hard!” But, then, I have a few small successes, like garden-fresh tomatoes, fresh apricots, a delicious home-brew, a nice glass of homemade wine, or fresh eggs from the backyard, or a fresh salad and I get re-inspired. What I’m doing is a good thing, and good for my family, and it’s good for the earth. It’s noble and it’s spiritual.

4)    I see things that others may not understand. I only have one or two people I can share ideas with, in real life. Other kooks, I jokingly say. I have to share most of my ideas on the internet as most of my peer group have no fucking clue, or aren’t interested, or it’s too hard to make changes, or whatever.

 

The question, though, still remains: What am I gonna do? What do I expect to happen in our future? How do I prepare for what is, ultimately, unknown? I’ve constructed an arbitrary 1-10 scale to evaluate the future with. In other words: On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being full economic recovery and good times are here again, and a 10 being full-out Mad-Max style survival, what do I think our future looks like? At this time, I am steady in the middle, a 5, but I reserve my right to adjust to a higher number (ie, worse outcome) at any time.

Does the information I seek out on the internet only serve to reinforce my beliefs because of bias and prejudice? Do I seek out other sources of information that challenge my current belief system? These are the questions I ask myself.

Here are some of the things I see: I think all TBP readers will agree that a major economic upheaval is going to occur in the next x years. Tomorrow? Or ten years from now? I hear different opinions, from sources I trust, about the time-scale of peak oil. (For a view that opposes Kunstler, et al, listen to Jack Spirko at thesurvivalpodcast.com) I think that as the economic situation of our country (and the entire world) gets worse and worse, our Federal Government will increase it’s authoritarian, statist tendencies. More taxes, less freedoms. Those in power are not going to give up that power easily.

What does that mean for me, a regular guy? I don’t have the resources of Doug Casey to move to a luxurious Argentinean private community. I think I am destined to be here in the good old U-S-of-A. How do I best protect my family? Is my plan good enough? Are my resources deep and wide enough? Will I be able to protect my wife and children in the event of a worst-case scenario?

You’ll notice that there are lots of questions. Maybe more questions than answers at this point. But, here are a couple of things I HAVE decided” Fuck ‘em. Those in power. Any of them. All of them. From the Government to the Church to the Media to anyone else in a current position of power, THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE SOLITARY MOTHER-FUCKER WHO WILL TELL ME THE TRUTH! I will rely on myself to discern the truth. The Church, as I see it, doesn’t address half the problems in real life and instead, wants to focus on songs, and leading time-wasting events such as day-long workshops about nothing relevant. (I acknowledge there may be a few outliers in the church structure. I like the work of Triple-X Church, for instance.) The Government and the Media appear to be two whores in the same bed. They will fucking juice my children up on psychotropic drugs, that arguably, turn them into mass-murderers. They will fucking feed me shit for food and fucking poison while telling me it’s “health food.” They will take my guns away to “protect me”. They will take my money from me in the interest of “helping others less fortunate.” My health care gets more and more expensive and I can’t figure out why our budget is so fucking tight every month. So, fuck them all. I walk away from them.

The alternative media (internet) is good, but it takes a huge amount of discernment to distill truth out of the massive amount of information. On the one hand, it’s easy to get bogged-down in the (D) vs. (R) debate. Bush=good. Obama=The Devil. Or, Obama=good. Bush=The Devil. It’s all the same shit, and a distraction. On the other hand, you can get into the reptilian, shadow government, Rothschild, secret illuminati, alien bases in New Mexico stuff, too. Nonsensical, and a time-waster.

How do I fight back against an increasingly authoritarian regime? I’ve got my kids to look after, you know. It will not do me any good to resist and end up in some fucking obscure FEMA camp. (If that’s even for real.) It won’t do me or the country any good to go off and start firing shots and end up in prison for the rest of my life, only to have the shots NOT start the revolution. What a wasted pud-puller THAT would be.

No, for me, I think the solution is to keep my head down, but be on the lookout. At all time. I’m a good little W-2 rank-and-file wage earner. I pay my taxes. I’ve decide it’s better not to hang the Gadsden Flag in my front yard. Keep a lower profile that way. I work hard for my company, with no complaints. I go to church when my wife asks me to. I’ll give some fresh eggs and fresh parsley to my little-old-neighbor lady.

But, on the inside, I’m another guy entirely. Right now, in my head, I’m re-designing my garden beds to be more effective with less work. I’m going to learn to grow medicinal herbs and what-not to take care of my own medical and spiritual needs. I’m going to slowly acquire silver coins, with cash, anonymously, in person at a local shop. I’m going to develop some kind of business that I can work hard but under the radar. I don’t know what this is yet, but does anybody need any lawn work done? I can cut your grass for cash or help you build a garden bed, or something. I may have a little home-brew or some labor or basic carpentry skills to trade you for something in return. I’m learning to play the guitar so I can entertain myself and my wife sings. Family-style sing-along anyone? I’m developing a practice of meditation so I can Be Still when the world around me is in chaos. I’m continually thinking about moving to a less-harsh environment where I can develop a strong sense of community. This one hasn’t been easy, but I trust I will know what to do when it’s time to do it.

In short: Fuck them. Trust myself.

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Administrator
Administrator
June 15, 2013 1:16 pm

Tim

Awesome heartfelt essay that captures everything that TBP is about. I think many of us are just like you. I don’t have the answers. But as long as this site is up and running we can share ideas, information and try to support each other mentally.

The overlap of the life you described is about 80% with my life. Everything we do is geared to help our kids have a decent life.

I have virtually no acquaintances who see the world as I see it. TBP is where I can go and interact with like minded people. It gives me hope.

All we can do is our best. The rest is up to fate.

Thanks for sharing.

FBS
FBS
June 15, 2013 1:43 pm

Administrator says:

“Awesome heartfelt essay that captures everything that TBP is about. I think many of us are just like you. I don’t have the answers. But as long as this site is up and running we can share ideas, information and try to support each other mentally.”

I never thought TBP should be about ragging someone for not reporting a $3.00 tip, that is a niggling mindset. TBP is about bigger things that need to be addressed. I certainly do agree with your point of view. if the government makes TBP out to be a political/activist site, they don’t know the half of it.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 15, 2013 1:53 pm

I think you’ve already got it pretty well figured out Tim. Fly under the RADAR as much as possible, keep your cards close to your vest and stay informed. What else can you do?

The only thing I’d advise is to ask specific questions here on TBP or other sites where you might get relevant answers and share what you you already know with others. For instance, I’d like to know more about permaculture and how to get started modestly and build on it.

More often than not, I find that I’m not able or willing to ask questions, share info or engage in discussions at a local level for many of the same reasons you mention. The internet makes up for that.
Thanks for posting!
I_S

MuckAbout
MuckAbout
June 15, 2013 2:46 pm

@Tim: A very _good_ _honest_ and informative post about real life and our very narrow and distorted view of the upcoming havoc that is, sadly in store for you – there on the high desert and me in the Florida swamps.

PLEASE – stick around and give us the benefits of your experiences as time passes and you have the time to share a post. I enjoyed yours very much and having been on TBP for a long time, am picky at what I spend time reading.

As to your base question: What can I do?

You are doing it. You’ve already got the direction and force right to suit your resource and are expanding your intellectual capabilities every day just when you think about it. You’re doing more than 95% of the people in this country to take good care of your family.. Just keep on keeping on.

Try to lay in some unprintable wealth – yes even at these prices – such as some 90% bags of circulated silver pre-1964 coinage, some 1/10 oz low premium gold coins. Don’t tell anyone (except your wife) where they are and DO NOT put them in a bank deposit box. Just let’s you sleep a little better at night.

As to your scale of disaster, when collapse comes I suspect it will be sudden, violent and much more serious that even most of the doomers think. Not Mad Max long term, say a spike to 7 or 8 and if things don’t get carried away and we’re lucky, perhaps over your children’s lives go back down to a 3-4…. I’m not sure we will, post – economic collapse, every come back to where we are today except in armed fortress-towns al la European walled cities..

None the less, just keep on keeping on and PLEASE post some more thoughts as you get them and experience things of truth that helps us TBPers stay sane in an insane world..

Thanks again, Tim..

MA

card802
card802
June 15, 2013 2:47 pm

Great essay Tim, the only good thing I can think is that as long as your mind is open, and it is or you wouldn’t be on TBP, you will get 1000% more insight about what is happening, and what our choices will be as the meltdown continues. So far I think you are way ahead of the 99%.
We’ll all require like minded people in the future no matter where we live, finding them is proving difficult.

ecliptix543
ecliptix543
June 15, 2013 3:05 pm

Tim – Have you considered sending that essay (mildly edited for certain word usage) to a few of the local fishwrappers? You might be surprised how op-ed’s get picked up and distributed… Plus, if it gets pubished, read through the comments section of the online version and watch the next week’s paper for replies and counter-arguments. It could give you quite the insight into whether or not you should start looking for somewhere else to set up camp. Excellent piece, as well.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
June 15, 2013 3:26 pm

El Paso

Bless Your Heart.

Nice rant though Tim.

KaD
KaD
June 15, 2013 3:47 pm

One of the best things to grow in an arid area is amaranth. One established it requires as little as 9 inches of rain per year. The seedheads are a nutritious grain, high in protein and contain lysine. The leaves are edible-old ones cooked, young ones in salad. Get a non-hybrid variety and be careful-it can take over. Quinoa would likely be a good one too.

KaD
KaD
June 15, 2013 3:52 pm

IS: one of the best ways to permaculture is with trees and shrubs. Don’t grow anything in your yard that doesn’t have food, medicinal, or some other value. Fruit and nut trees come in dwarf varieties if you’re acreage challenged. There are some varieties of hazelnut and chestnut that can grow in any climate. Nuts are high in essential fatty acids and protein, and the oil can be used for cooking and making soap and lotion. (You can get an oil extractor for little more than $100) For shrubs think raspberry, blackberry, elderberry. If you live in an area with wildlife think about what trees and shrubs will attract them.

ragman
ragman
June 15, 2013 4:08 pm

Excellent post! If I could sum up my greatest fuck-up in one word it would be this one: DEBT! Don’t get into it, period end. Rent your house or apt and try to save some money. Pay cash for everything if you can Do as muck says and buy a few silver coins every paycheck. If you have no problem with owning firearms, save some money and buy a good, dependable pistol, maybe a Glock or 1911. Private sale, no paperwork. Along with that, plenty of ammo(if you can find it) and a few extra mags. Start buying the inexpensive, simple items that will quickly disappear when TSTF. Who knows what will happen in the future. Let alone tomorrow or 5 minutes from now. I’m one of the hated “boomers”, the reason everything is fucked-up. I may be the reason for the demise of our Republic, but in almost 66yrs I have learned a few things. Above all, enjoy your family and friends every day. They are truly life’s blessings. Enough pontificating. Thank you for you post. Remember, nothing is ever as good as it seems or as bad as it seems. Just hang in there with the rest of us, we’re bigger than they are!

platoplubius
platoplubius
June 15, 2013 4:23 pm

WoW! TIM!!! Fucking Fantastic! I believe it was me who asked Jim the question “What do WE DO?” I hope Jim did not take it as antagonism! While I can be a dick from time to time, I truly respect JIM for what he has accomplished with this site! What I have learned from his articles, especially the 4th Turning articles, and all the superb and over the top comments on the threads is mindboggling! Jim has done so much, and it seems unfair to ask “What do WE do now or next?” But as the years of me daily checking this site progress, it seems as though each of us who continue to take the RED pill, embracing the harshness of living through this harsh world AWAKE, eyes wide open, are forced with more and more difficult decisions. I applaud your life changes. My lady and I have also made similar changes. We have a garden and we are in the process of beginning to raise rabbits (meat rabbits) as a self-reliant source of meat. We have also changed the way we view food…It is amazing what fasting once in a while can do for you. It cleanses your body and mentally it reminds me what the purpose of food is: sustenance, not pleasure-seeking and fulfilling. This helps me everyday I am out in public around all the fast food sights and smells that I once used to enjoy oh so frequently!
We found a simple method using pallets to make planter boxes that are easily transportable. I’m sure you can do a quick search and find the details.

I suppose WE ARE DOING SOMETHING, Tim. In our own personal ways, each of us are making conscious choices that we believe will help protect what we love. I suppose each of us will have to determine our own course.

Stucky
Stucky
June 15, 2013 5:24 pm

Most excellent essay.

Tim asks “what should we do?” …. and then provides the answer. Brilliant stuff, there!!

Jeebus summed up all the commandments in just two. I’ll attempt to do likewise.

1) Stay invisible as you can from the gubment. So, if you choose to starve the beast by not paying all or some taxes, then fine. But just shut the hell up about it. Smile in their faces … stab the fuckers in the back.

2) Self-reliance is the only 100% reliable course. Tim points this out in a most excellent way. Do thou likewise.

Gayle
Gayle
June 15, 2013 6:07 pm

Tim

I wish you and your family lived next door. I’d trade you figs for apricots and discuss the current posts on TBP.

Your essay is an excellent summation of the dilemmas faced by the thinking few. I appreciate your honesty and humility and admire you for the way you are trying to do the best you can to protect your family. Thanks for taking the time to speak to and for all of us.

TheCynic
TheCynic
June 15, 2013 8:16 pm

Cool a modern version of the old Russian stove from the early part of the last century.

Only problem is that if everybody uses one, we’ll run out of trees. It’s fine when a handful of people do it and hunting but it doesn’t scale worth a shit with our current population. We’ll end up with looking Saudi Arabia in terms of land.

AKAnon
AKAnon
June 15, 2013 8:17 pm

Damn, Tim, nice job. I feel for you, re local kindred spirits. I have a number of folks with similar mindsets (though not always politics) I can discuss DOOM with. They don’t think I’m crazy, they come to me re certain subjects-and I to them. And if I want to rant about the Gov’t, NSA, TSA or DHS, I can find lots of like-minded folks-we value our independence in these parts (while we cash those gov’t checks-yeah, I know. What a conundrum). Re what to do-sounds like you are on a good track. Self-sufficiency is tough in the desert, even tougher here in the far north. I ponder this shit every day. Thanks.

sensetti
sensetti
June 15, 2013 9:58 pm

Great read Tim !

I am at an eight on your scale. When the EBT cards stop working the FSA will burn the world down.

It does not really matter what your plan is, just have a plan and you”ll be ahead of 99% of the sheep. Everyone’s situation is different, each individual will have to make decisions accordingly.

My family and I have worked hard and sacrificed much ( 13 years now) but I really believe, I can survive a complete melt down of society. For me it’s like training hard for the big game, preparation pays off, but still victory is not assured.

So we do the best we can and hope we walk out on the other side of the storm.

sensetti

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J.RInger
J.RInger
June 15, 2013 10:39 pm

Please reconsider where you are living, based on water issues. You are in a very dry part of the world in great need of irrigation to survive. I was in LA and moved to Oregon, later to Idaho, based very much on water concerns. You can grow tons of stuff in Idaho in cold greenhouses in winter. Gun rights are protected here as much as in Texas. Independence from the feds is a way of life. We are under the radar enough that the big boys are not going to get to us for quite a while. We can live off the land and wildlife here.

John A
John A
June 15, 2013 11:19 pm

Thanks for the above post, Tim. It was a good one. Relax, amigos. Whenever life gets me down, I always turn to Fire Marshall Bill for answers to the difficult questions (about fire safety):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIZLsOtUpJM

Novista
Novista
June 16, 2013 1:34 am

Tim

A fine essay. Yes, asking the question is the first step on a long road.

Me, I’m already in my own Galt’s Gulch in country Queesland. A long way from Florida! Next month, I turn 77, so I had decades to ask myself questions. I used my skills to subsidize some world travel, jobs in Saudi Arabia and American Samoa — from the latter contract, I managed to get to Australia with my preferred occupation (television engineer) just when they were converting to PAL color.

It wasn’t part of the plan to stay here but that’s how it worked out.

You can imagine the responses I got 50 years ago or more, trying to explain the problem with the Federal Reserve System. And more. Trying to wake zombies is a futile task, so I just kept learning, reading, research, always questions and finding truths I did not learn in government school.

I didn’t start prepping until 2006 and my prospect for the fututre is 6-10 and hopefully ready for any part of that aspect. The first thing was stockpiling food, barter items; by 2007, I delved into ‘shiny things’ two kinds of those and two of base metals, heh; despite what most people over there believe, we DO have firearm ownership here again, albeit there was a confiscation/amnesty after the Port Arthus massacre (or conspiracy, take your pick.) So it took two years and yeah, I’m on the govt. lists due to the hoops one has to jump through and the onerous fees. Still have to complete the stages of getting the Class H license (more hoops, more fees) before purchase of a suitable handgun or 3.

The house is owned, as is the car, no debts, fiat in the bank, two kinds of currency, only the usual bills and easily manageable. Had a rainwater tank put in, 1100 gallons. Seeds. Was well into gardening but that lapsed after Cyclone Yasi, so it goes. I’ve learned most of the tricks this climate makes different to other places I’ve lived and I can get back into it. Even if it’s choice and not dire necessity.

No matter how much any prepper has done, there will be something you missed. And I’m still asking questions! Enough medicine, first aid supplies? Food? Ammo? Gri gri powder to ward off zombies? Maybe I should add a second gas cylinder for the kitchen stove?

One thing’s for sure: when the ultimate Black Swan arrives, it will visit everywhere, just like the Great Depression flowed around the world. Some of us are ready for it, whatever. I hope.

eugend66
eugend66
June 16, 2013 3:19 am

Beautiful piece of writting Tim.

Welshman
Welshman
June 16, 2013 6:23 am

Good gut and heart felt read. You get it and have a plan, and that is the best you can do.

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
June 16, 2013 9:32 am

Greetings,

Most of the zombies have stopped talking with me about politics or the economy because my predictions (based very specifically on the work I do and who I do it for) are usually on the money and years ahead of the curve. Frankly, it isn’t that hard when you’ve got a ringside seat.

Anyway, I am of the opinion that we’ve reached the stage in collapse where we will just have a slow burn into something that looks like the slums you might find in Brazil. As things break, whether it be our Justice System or our Electrical Grid, there will not be the will or the resources to fix them.

In the mean time, expect everything from jails to roads to be privatized and poorly run. It wont be possible for everyone to run into the woods to fend for themselves. Expect that kind of behavior to become a criminal offense deserving of the death penalty just as it was after the fall of Rome.

Disease, poor nutrition, lack of clean water and health care will quickly cut our current population in half. After all, how many people do you know that would be alive were it not for modern medicine?

Der Scheisskerl
Der Scheisskerl
June 16, 2013 11:42 am

Location is the most important part of
the preparation process. When things
get ugly, you don’t want to be surrounded
by what attorney general Eric Holder
calls “not my people”.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 16, 2013 1:32 pm

KaD says:

IS: one of the best ways to permaculture is with trees and shrubs. Don’t grow anything in your yard that doesn’t have food, medicinal, or some other value.

I guess I’m already doin it then KaD, The drugs must have muddled my brain. There is still a LOT more I need to learn about it though!
I_S

Eddie
Eddie
June 17, 2013 10:24 am

Great story Tim, and good for you for taking charge of your own life. I do agree with those who recommended getting out of El Paso (if you can) because that’s one city that will be out of water for sure in the next 30 or 40 years, if not well before. Otherwise you’ll have to turn to catchment, which isn’t a bad idea in the short term anyway.

My own plans here in central Texas revolve around gardening, permaculture, and energy independence. That, and cutting my own dependence on the currency by paying off my debts, which is still going to take some time.

I strongly recommend that you get started with solar and wind energy if you haven’t already. Even a very small system is a very good way to learn…My goal is to be at net zero grid power usage in five years..and to have some sustainable farming and water catchment going by then too.

It’s easy to get overwhelmed at the cost of getting independent..but I just try to do it in small deliberate steps. the best way to eat an elephant, as someone once said, is “one bite at a time”.

Olga
Olga
June 17, 2013 1:09 pm

Thank you for sharing Tim.

Waking up is hard to do – I have been peeling that onion since 2008.

Having a self-deprecating sense of humor while still pointing out fallacies and errors in the MSM while REPEATEDLY mentioning how our great-grandparents are rolling in their graves at our dependence on the government keep the zombies in my life just off balanced enough to wonder what they might be missing.

And before writing off all the woo-woo stuff just remember, the Universe is a very big place with a lot going on, to say we “know” anything much past our noses is taking a pretty big leap of faith.

Given more data, better analysis, a stronger argument and any of my current perceptions are all subject to change.

And yes – a rocket stove is my next investigation.