Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/15/2015 10:12 -0500
Yesterday, when we explained just how the tragic events in France over the past 48 hours unfolded precisely as we predicted they would two months ago (ironically, as per our post from September 11, 2015) we commented on the oddly fortuitous discovery of an intact Syrian passport found next to the body of one of the suicide bombers, a passport which Greece chimed in as belonging to a Syrian refugee who had entered the country at Leros on October 3, 2015 from where he subsequently travelled all the way to Paris.
Specifically, we said that “we admit to not being experts on the nuances, or even basics, of “suicide bombing for terrorists 101”, but is bringing your own passport to an event that will be your last, really that crucial, especially when the passport is such a critical smoking gun?”
The following cartoon best captures the idiocy of anyone actually believing a suicide bomber would have brought their actual passport to what they knew would be their last act on earth.
Shortly thereafter, it was Serbia’s turn to join the story of the rogue “Syrian refugee”, when the Serbian newspaper Blic published the picture of the alleged Syrian passport belonging to a 25-year-old man named Ahmed Almohamed, and said he had crossed into the country on 7 October, having arrived four days earlier in Leros, Greece, seeking Serbian refugee status.
Then a Greek newspaper, Protothema, said he was travelling with a second man, Mohammed Almuhamed, and published pictures purporting to show their travel documents. The Guardian proposed the following map to track Ahma’s progress across Europe:
And then a few hours ago, the story took an even more surreal twist when we learned that, according to both French and US sources, the passport was “definitely a forgery.”
BREAKING: French police source says Syrian passports are ‘definitely forgeries’ and fakes can be purchased easily for few hundred dollars.
The Syrian passport recovered from near one of the Paris attackers may be fake, a US intelligence official told CBS news. The document did not contain the correct numbers for a legitimate Syrian passport and the picture did not match the name, said the official.
The passport found near the body of one of the eight attackers who struck on Friday, 13 November, was used to enter the European Union through Greece in October. The Serbian interior ministry said that the passport was used to enter that country on 7 October, by a man claiming refugee status.
So how to make sense from a story that has drifted from the merely laughable, to the bizarre, to the outright surreal? Guardian’s Patrick Kingsley attempts an explanation:
There are several reasons why it’s worth waiting until all the facts are known before making too strong a link between the attacks and the refugee crisis. The first is a general one: on at least 12 occasions, Isis has actually criticised refugees for fleeing to Europe. “For those who want to blame the attacks on Paris on refugees, you might want to get your facts straight,” wrote Aaron Zelin, an analyst of jihad, in an online commentary about the 12 outbursts. “The reality is, [Isis] loathes that individuals are fleeing Syria for Europe. It undermines [Isis’s] message that its self-styled caliphate is a refuge.” It’s therefore unlikely that the vast majority of Syrians fleeing to Europe are Isis supporters, since their actions are in obvious contravention of the group’s creed.
The second reason for caution is more specific. Investigators still need to verify the Syrian passport was carried by an attacker rather than a dead bystander (one Egyptian passport-holder initially believed to be an assailant turned out to be an injured victim). They will then need to be certain that the passport’s carrier was the same as the passport’s legitimate owner.
It’s possible that it was stolen. Since the possession of a Syrian passport makes it easier to claim asylum in Europe, there is a busy trade in stolen Syrian documents. Syrians interviewed on Greece’s border with Macedonia have described how they were mugged for their passports after leaving the Greek islands as they tried to make their way north through the Balkans. Such passports can be sold on for as much as several thousand euros, in a trade that the EU’s border agency acknowledges is a growing problem. Forgeries are also common; a Dutch journalist recently had one made in the name of his prime minister.
A third red flag is the fact that the passport concerned was found in the first place. Analysts find it strange that a bomber would remember to bring his passport on a mission, particularly one who does not intend to return alive. “Why would a jihadist who expressly rejects all notions of modern citizenship take his passport on a suicide mission?” tweeted Charlie Winter, an analyst focusing on Islamist extremism. “So it gets found.”
One theory is that Isis hopes to turn Europe against Syrian refugees. This would reinforce the idea of unresolvable divisions between east and west, and Christians and Muslims, and so persuade Syrians that Islamic State’s self-proclaimed caliphate is their best hope of protection. “You know what pissed off Islamist extremists the most about Europe?” summarised Iyad El-Baghdadi, an activist and jihadi-watcher, on Twitter. “It was watching their very humane, moral response to the refugee crisis.”
His conclusion:
“Whether the passport was planted, stolen, forged or genuine, investigators should find out the truth soon enough. But regardless of what they discover, a wider debate has now begun about the wisdom of letting so many unknown migrants enter Europe through its southern borders, and being allowed to move onwards through the continent with few restrictions. Already, there are calls to step up the policing of Greece’s maritime border with Turkey, and to block the passage of refugees entirely.”
What is becoming clear is that either the passport was planted, or is a fake, or both. But while we agree with the Guardian that this shift in narrative will have an impact against the future flow of refugees into Europe, an even more acute consequence will from the “Syrian” angle will be to “incept” the idea that the entire Paris massacre was the result of events in Syria (and hence, al Assad is directly and indirectly responsible) thus generating goodwill toward a military operation that include a French ground force. In fact, the wheels are already in motion:
France may send its “expeditionary force” to Syria in order to retaliate against ISIL, according to the US-based intelligence firm Stratfor; the group has claimed responsibility for Friday’s terrorist attacks in Paris, which claimed at least 129 lives.
Analysts from the private intelligence company Stratfor believe that France may send its “expeditionary force” to Syria or Iraq in response to the deadly Paris attacks that rocked the French capital on Friday night. They claimed that France has a whole array of options for retaliation “at its disposal”, but that the country’s response will depend on “who was ultimately responsible” for the Friday attacks.
“If it is found that the Islamic State core group was indeed behind the November 13 attack, France will likely ramp up its Syrian air operations,” Stratfor said.
In light of this, Stratfor analysts predicted that France may increase its programs to train and support anti-Islamic State forces in Iraq and Syria, or even to carry out “commando strikes against key leadership nodes.”
“France also has the option of deploying an expeditionary force like it did in the Sahel [region of Africa], although that would probably require outside airlift capacity from NATO allies, especially the United States,” Stratfor pointed out.
And the latest surprise, is that moments ago it was Greece again which claimed that despite allegations to the contrary, the passport was, in fact, real. How it “concluded” this remains a mystery…
… and once again shows that there is a deep political motive on virtually every side to use this human tragedy as a “false flag” event to achieve specific, geopolitical goals.
The old “passport trick” is wearing thin. Has anyone here seen the picture of the alleged dead bodies in the Paris theater? Totally fake, almost laughable just like the ever so predictable passport found.
BEA
So no one was killed on Friday night?
BEA
These are all actors playing their parts?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/11/14/horrifying-video-shows-carnage-outside-paris-theater/75772032/
False Flags as an excuse to enter war:
WWI – U.S. was shipping war materials in the hold of the Lusitania; the Germans warned the U.S. that they would sink the ship if happened again. A couple of days before the ship left port, Germany advised major U.S. newspapers of the pending event – U.S. TPTB instructed the media not to print the info. Lusitania was sunk and U.S. entered WWI.
WWII Japan – U.S. had decrypted the Japanes code and knew of the coming attack on Pearl Harbor. It was rightly determined that a nation has to be very stealthy about using the de-coded info as the object is to win the war and not the battle – if action had been taken against the Japs, they would have known their code was broken and the code advantage would have been lost for the ensuing war.
Also all aircraft carriers were removed from Pearl Harbor before the attack. TPTB knew the Pacific was going to be a carrier war.
Vietnam – Gulf of Tonkin: there were two incidents – the first was real and did not cause the U.S. to enter war; the 2nd was phony and gave the excuse for combat.
09/11 – No way WTC 7 came down without pre-positioned thermite explosives.
More, but it appears that strong economies/powers can’t wait to initiate war; it is so profitable for the corporations.
Admin- Drudge Report has posted “graphic” photo “twitter) of bodies inside the theater.
BEA
I asked you two direct questions. Please answer.
Thirty-five years down the road after writing a speech for a member of a Muslim royal family proclaiming that “east and west” (i.e. apparently incompatible cultures) can indeed “meet” and come to an accommodation, I find myself eating my words. Ain’t happenin’. Sure, the well-educated and economically comfortable Muslim will buy into the idea, but the hordes don’t see it that way. Neither should you. Let’s “accommodate” one another with each in his own “house” and see where we go from there. Europe and her one-time Western colonies need to look out for themselves first and tell the “globalists” to take a hike.
@Admin
I don’t know any woman that could hang from a ledge of a building for over 2 minutes.
wip
WTF are you talking about?
@Bea… I would like to see the photo from Drudge you are referring to as well, not saying you are mistaken, just wanting to see the images myself to see if they look doctored.
???http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3319244/Video-reveals-horrific-moment-terrorists-opened-fire-crowd-music-fans-Bataclan-killing-89-people-shows-musician-hiding-drums-escape.html
admin
I’m just saying…I’ve never seen a woman hang from a building for that long. Isn’t that a woman hanging by her fingertips?
I don’t see blood from those being dragged.
I will say, though, that this is the only footage I’ve seen.
Can someone post images and more videos please?
Who knows Admin…..did you look at the picture inside the theater? How do bodies manage to bleed in thin lines perpendicular to each other, a few inches apart for ten or so feet not even near a body in more than one area? Notice the large swirls around each grouping . Looks fake to me.
BEA
So there were thousands of people in on this fake terrorist attack? The bodies – fake. The videos – fake. The 129 people supposedly killed – fake.
Yikes.
I agree, looks fake to me.
Yes. All actors playing the part of dead bodies.
Yes. People fleeing the theater were actors.
There sure are a lot of french actors making excellent dough this week.
Right BEA and wip?
I’m surprised the theater didn’t implode at freefall speed. 🙂
Maggie- Go to the Drudge Report top of the page where there are numerous headlines in small print- Look for LEAKED PHOTO FROM INSIDE BATACLAN “WARNING GRAPHIC”.
This is one of the biggest scams the world has ever seen
There was no Islamic attack in France.
No one was killed.
All the witnesses are actors.
The photo’s and video are just actors playing roles.
This was all done by the Jews to make it look like the Muslims are actually a violent threat instead of the peace loving and harmless people they really are.
The same as the World Trade Center attacks which were really just holograms and special effects.
Sorry, did not see Admin had put up the photo, THIS my friends is a classic crisis actor staged terror attack scene………so Admin do you think they died?
I assumed the smears were due to people dragging bodies of friends or family out with them. I didn’t think about the trails of blood at all…
However, what strikes me most horridly is that we actually have to have this discussion about whether those are or are NOT dead bodies there. It is almost WORSE if they are NOT.
Laugh it up Admin and Anon, I guess fake passports just fall out of the sky at free-fall speed…..suckers.
@Bea… thanks.
Admin, I agree they couldn’t ALL be acting.
More delusional false flag bullshit. So who planted the passport and who’s reporting its a forgery? Are they the same people?
Bernie Sanders ‘Reveals’ The Real Cause Of Terrorism… Climate Change
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/15/2015 11:48 -0500
Forget multiple millennia of ingrained religious zealotry, generations of ingrained hatred of ‘infidel’ invasions and resource exploitation, Bernie Sanders revealed, in an apparently entirely serious statement on CBS’s Face The Nation that climate change will lead to terrorism, adding that the attack on Paris is an early example of this phenomenon playing out.
The Democratic presidential hopeful already raised eyebrows, as The Hill reports, when he made the claim at the second Democratic primary debate on Saturday…
But now appears to doubling down on the topic…
“The reason is pretty obvious: If we are going to see an increase in drought and flood and extreme weather disturbances as a result of climate change, what that means is that peoples all over the world are going to be fighting over limited natural resources,” Sanders said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”
“If there is not enough water, if there is not enough land to grow your crops, then you’re going to see migrants of people fighting over land that will sustain them, and that will lead to international conflict,” he added.
The self-proclaimed Democratic socialist said on Sunday that the attack on Paris is an early example of this phenomenon playing out.
“Well what happens in, say, Syria… is that when you have drought, when people can’t grow their crops, they’re going to migrate into cities,” Sanders said.
“And when people migrate into cities and they don’t have jobs, there’s going to be a lot more instability, a lot more unemployment, and people will be subject to the types of propaganda that al Qaeda and ISIS are using right now,” he added.
“So where you have discontent, where you have instability, that’s where problems arise, and certainly, without a doubt, climate change will lead to that.”
* * *
So forget arming moderate terrorists in the fight against ISIS – why not fund solar panels for the schools in Syria?
Oh please not this shit again. There is clearly blood left by the nearest dragged body. The limping guy has clearly been shot. I didn’t even realize that was a woman hanging until the end…adds to veracity. It I’d total, REAL, chaos. The blood smears in the photo are obviously places where bodies were dragged away.
Good lord, I can’t do this again…there are over 120 dead, Hundreds more wounded…so now you must have legions of medical personell (emts, nurses, doctors, surgeons, MEs) in on it as well.
I don’t know who is responsible…or their motives….but this is so obviously not a hoax. The problem is people exec Hollywood reality and so actual reality looks fake.
Bea most likely believes his entire life s a scam…his parents are not really his….his friends are actors…his job is jus on a Hollywood sound stage. There is clearly no help for his malady.
Admin if that looks real to you pop some popcorn and enjoy the show, far be it from me to mess up the entertainment value .
BEA
Do you believe anything is real?
Am I real or am I an NSA operative?
I’m sure the parents of Nohemi Gonzalez will be happy to hear that their daughter wasn’t really murdered. Unless, of course, the conspiracy extends to her parents (who probably don’t really exist) and that there never was a Nohemi Gonzalez. Generally, though, if you’re going to fake an entire person’s existence, it’s better use a more common name, like,say, Maria Gonzalez. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/11/14/california-student-dies-paris-attacks/75778770/
Bea, since you’re clearly living in the Truman Show, you should row your boat to the horizon and bang on the fake sky.
Ok fine, DUD,Admin and Anon can carry on with their circle jerk , I have leaves to blow.
BEA
How do you know the leaves are real?
I hate fucking tablets and autocorrect.
If there’s any conspiracy to be found, it’s right here:
“And then a few hours ago, the story took an even more surreal twist when we learned that, according to both French and US sources, the passport was ‘definitely a forgery.’ ”
So suddenly Bea wants to put faith in unnamed “French & US sources”. Does it not occur to you that maybe the French & American governments – being fully invested in mass importation of “Syrian refugees” would declare the passport fake (less than 36 hours after the event) in order to discredit the embarassing fact that a recent “refugee” was involved. Do you really think that both the French & American governments have even had the time to do the forensic analysis of this passport? What – they gave the French a few hours’ possession and then flew it over to Quantico?
Here we go again! While the “devil” may be in the details, no one here is truly qualified to assess the validity of those details. Ask your resident intelligence agent, Mr SSS. Sure, he’s years out of the game, but even back in his day, this stuff was easy to fake. Right, SSS? Flaps and seals and their descendants, no, bro’?
Me, I believe the extremely provoked Mo J Public would-be invader did this, but I’d much rather see some effort made to determine once and for all who put the poor, ignorant fanatics up to this. Who has driven them to invade the West? Whose propaganda has seduced the “guilty”, multi-culti Europeans and their Western Hemisphere descendants to roll over for this suicidal nonsense of “diversity”? Ask yourselves if the enormous impact of Muslim propaganda and worldview has subverted Europe and the US. Ask yourselves which non-European minority has divided loyalties, tribally and culturally speaking. Ask yourselves why an at best semi-assimilated minority should lord it over your national policies. Ask yourselves if your own shouldn’t take charge of your own destiny rather than leave it in the hands of those who dismiss you as incapable of doing so. Then answer that we take care of our own and the “chosen” can count in “God” to sort it all out.
Leaves are just a massive conspiracy concocted centuries ago by a Cadre of intelligent trees, designed to eat into football watching time on Sundays.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/11/the-first-question-to-ask-after-an-terror-attack
The revelation that the passport maybe/is forged doesn’t include who forged it. A most plausible scenario is that the terrorist(s) forged it themselves for purposes to travel freely. The fact that the US and French authorities disclosed it as a forgery seems to undermine the “False Flag” aspect.
Veterans Today’s Kevin Barrett was there in Paris:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/13/charlie2/
Also, the notion that this was all staged is just idiotic. The spontaneous footage is too realistic and there are too many living witnesses. For instance are we too believe that the band members were in on the fraud? Ridiculous!
So someone got a fake passport to try and get into France for generous social benefits or to mount an attack. How does that relate to a ‘false flag’ event?
Admin….re: Bernie Sanders
The progressives like Bernie that retard the economy have generated something like 150 different thing/events that are caused by GloBull Warming. Give them a few more years and it will reach 500.
I am waiting for those imbeciles to add Erectile Dysfunction caused by GloBull Warming.
They just don’t know how ridiculous they appear.
Fake Passport – they are created by technically proficient people just like IED’s. They are usually a cost item for the individual but they can even be made free of charge to allow a planned insertion of many jihadi’s to intermingle with the hordes to inflict terror/killings in the EU.
No false flag – unless you are on Meth.
The Muslim sects have an agenda, it’s to Islamaize the West and implement Sharia law. The infidels have a choice, convert or die. They are like Rabid dogs, the only peaceful solution will be born of war. There is no other road to take!
Who cares whether it was an ISIS member from Syria or an ISIS member from, say, Jordan traveling with a fake Syrian passport (in order to be considered a “refugee”)?
@Iska Warren
Do you understand that ISIS is controlled, funded, trained and armed by the CIA? These acts are perpetrated to further a agenda toward war/ WWIII. If ISIS is US-CIA controlled project, how is this not a false flag? The passport always shows up in these events. Makes no difference if the passport if fake or where the perp came from.
Questioning whether this event was indeed a “false flag” doesn’t mean people didn’t die, it can also mean it’s not clear just who planned the operation and was doing the shooting. Given the political situation I’d guess we’ll never really know, just like there’s no reasonable explanation for why building 7 came down on 9/11.
@Admin… a friend of mine sent me this link. Is an interesting article, I think.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
Admin
Come back. How about posting a Work-In-Progress question of the day?
Q: IF this is a false flag attack…who and why?
some have to be dumb as shit to not understand that terrorists DO want to sign their attack.
they DO want to publicise the perpetrators and reasons of the attack.
you drop your passport, you detonate your jacket, job done
@Bea Lever
“.did you look at the picture inside the theater? How do bodies manage to bleed in thin lines perpendicular to each other, a few inches apart for ten or so feet not even near a body in more than one area?”
Many old building in France have wood plank floors. Over many years’ wood moves, cups, miss-aligns, and as a result forms parallel channels, not perpendicular. If you were to bother to look closer you would notice the tale tell signs of the parallel pattern characteristic of wood flooring. Also be aware that old building will settle and my no longer be level which would cause any liquid to flow to the low side of the floor.
wjp,
Yeah, who and why is the question.
As if we really needed to stage a murderous attack to blame on Muslim terrorists to make them look bad or something.
The interior of that Bataclan club looks pretty much like I expected it it would. I even looks nearly identical to a club I used to frequent in the Madrid suburb of Vicalvaro.
I’m as distrustful as the next guy but I think people are forgetting what a false flag really is.
As with the violence perpetrated against ‘Muricans by the popo, these muzzie attacks against westerners in their own countries is going to have to ramp up significantly before anything meaningful is done about it. I’d love to be proven wrong but doubt that I will. If I am proven wrong, it will likely be at the expense of even more of our freedom and liberty. Remember, our owners have plans for us. Those plans likely involve war. It’s easy to nudge sheep in any direction they need to get what they want. How our owners use this tragedy will be telling.
TE ought to be a bit happier today as I saw a headline which indicated the MI governor is rethinking efforts to accept refugees. I’m not holding my breath.
Who is responsible for these people travelling freely within the borders of France?
It doesn’t serve anyone to go down the rabbit hole of “false flags”, it is indisputable just who is responsible, the political elites of Europe. Period. They forced these policies on their populations against their will and without consent for reasons that were either poorly articulated or deliberately obscured. Now that the expected carnage has taken place- as was expected- notice that those same political elites, rather than concede failure or incompetence and step down from their positions of authority, instead seize additional power and as expected, demand that the populations that they previously ignored submit to ever more impositions on their already eroded liberties.
So now we’re just arguing semantics.
Two great quotes, first from the BBC-
“It will have to be established how the attackers and their weapons were moved across borders and whether border controls would have made a difference.”
Followed only one sentence later by-
“France has now introduced temporary border controls.”
But, but, but, I thought we have to establish how they moved across those borders before we can determine if border controls would have made a difference?
And then from a Polish Minister
“We have to be aware that we were wrong, too naive and idealistic.”
Really. Wrong, naive, idealistic. Have you resigned yet, sir? Didn’t think so.
The political class, aided by the business class (Soros/Zuckerberg/et al) are the conspirators.
Manson never actually murdered anyone, but he orchestrated the crimes so he’s doing the time. In a just world they’d all get the Ceausescu treatment for what they’ve done, instead they’ll be dining on Blue Fin Tuna and truffles at the Climate Summit in Paris next week to discuss how much more of the global citizens wealth they can plunder while the citizens of France are still on lock-down. It would be sad if it wasn’t so funny.
HF
How is it just the Euro elites who are to blame if ISIS is funded by the CIA?
What evidence is there that ISIS is funded OR run or influenced by the CIA?
KaD says:
“What evidence is there that ISIS is funded OR run or influenced by the CIA?”
Jeebuz KaD…………let your favorite search engine be your friend. You could even read comments posted here yesterday on similar posts to find what you seek. New info on the CIA connection is uncovered, exposed or admitted to almost weekly.
Anons question is just too retarded to deserve an answer.
Amazing how generally smart people go stark raving mad re certain issues. I will not ment any names, but one has the initials Bea Lever.
Anoymous-
US intelligence agencies created, funded and armed what the Western Media refers to as ISIS/ISIL, that part has been known for quite some time. It was part of the plan to unseat every government that wasn’t on our payroll/buying our armaments/selling us oil in the Arab world.
More declassified doc’s here for those who need links-
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/newly-declassified-u-s-government-documents-the-west-supported-the-creation-of-isis.html
That, however, doesn’t put these people on the soil of the EU, EU policy did that.
I’m not sure if that answers your question, but like I said earlier, the death of those slaughtered in Paris is on the heads of the EU elites. They unlocked the door and left the light on for the “intruder” they’d contracted to come and kill their spouse/citizens so they could get the insurance payout. Uncle Sugar was the guy who sells the guns out of a briefcase in the seedy hotel and hooks you up with the hitman.
I like analogies, sue me.
HF….exactly correct. The Social Justice plague from the UN has driven the W. Developed nations to de-develop (lower standard of living – refer to the ‘trade’ agreements that purposely off-shored our jobs) in order to improve the standard of living for developing countries.