LIVING A LIE

“Above all, don’t lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.” –  Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

The lies we tell ourselves are only exceeded by the lies perpetrated by those controlling the levers of our society. We’ve lost respect for ourselves and others, transforming from citizens with obligations to consumers with desires. The love of mammon has left our country a hollowed out, debt ridden shell of what it once was.  When I see the data from surveys about the amount of debt being carried by people in this country and match it up with the totals reported by the Federal Reserve, I’m honestly flabbergasted that so many people choose to live a lie. By falling for the false materialistic narrative of having it all today, millions of Americans have enslaved themselves in trillions of debt. The totals are breathtaking to behold:

Total mortgage debt – $13.6 trillion ($9.9 trillion residential)

Total credit card debt – $924 billion

Total auto loan debt – $1.0 trillion

Total student loan debt – $1.3 trillion

Other consumer debt – $300 billion

With 118 million occupied households in the U.S., that comes to $145,000 per household. But, when you consider only 74 million of the households are owner occupied and approximately 26 million of those are free and clear of mortgage debt, that leaves millions of people with in excess of $200,000 in mortgage debt. Keeping up with the Joneses has taken on a new meaning as buying a 6,000 sq ft McMansion with 3% down became the standard operating procedure for a vast swath of image conscious Americans. When you are up to your eyeballs in debt, you don’t own anything. You are living a lie.

The lie was revealed as housing bubble burst and national home prices plummeted by 30%, resulting in millions of foreclosures, the worst recession since the Great Depression and homeowners equity falling to an all-time low of 38%. The Fed induced 2nd housing bubble has convinced millions to believe the lie again. The Fed easy money, Wall Street buy and rent scheme, with the FHA acting as the new purveyor of 3% down mortgages, has artificially boosted homeowners equity back to 57% just in time for the next housing collapse. Living a lie will result in more pain and suffering for those who didn’t learn the lesson last time.

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At least there is an asset capable of appreciation backed by the mortgage debt. Auto loans are backed by a rapidly depreciating asset, while credit card debt allows Americans to live above their means while living their lie, and student loans  are the new subprime debt which will never get repaid. The country has been living a Big Lie since the day Nixon closed the gold window in 1971, eliminating any vestiges of constraint upon central bankers and politicians.

The Fed has continuously debased the currency and politicians have promised voters freebies while waging never ending wars of choice, creating a warfare/welfare empire of debt totaling $18.7 trillion with unfunded promises of $200 trillion. The masses have been lied to by bankers and their mass media mouthpieces, while willfully buying into the lie of living for today and funding it with debt. An entire society bought into the fallacy that a country could transition from savings and investment to borrowing and consuming, with no adverse consequences. The mass delusion is clearly evident in the comparative consumer debt data from 1971:

US population in 1971 – 208 million
Total credit card debt 1971 – $8.5 billion ($41 per capita)
Total auto loan debt 1971 – $40.5 billion ($195 per capita)

US population in 2015 – 320 million
Total credit card debt 2015 – $890 billion ($2,781 per capita)
Total auto loan debt 2015 – $1.03 trillion ($3,219 per capita)

The population of the US has grown by 54% since 1971, but the amount of credit card debt per person has grown by 6,782%, and the amount of auto loan debt has grown by 1,650%. Meanwhile, real median household income has grown by 8% since 1971. Replacing income with debt in order to give the appearance of wealth is nothing but a lie. It requires an ever larger amount of debt to generate an additional dollar of GDP. The exponential increase in debt became unsustainable and the Wall Street lies resulted in a global conflagration in 2008. The desperate effort by the Fed to re-inflate the debt bubble through ZIRP and QE has resulted in pathetic economic growth, while leaving willfully ignorant consumers with a record level of debt.

A recent report by Nerdwallet revealed the outrageous amount of consumer debt millions of Americans have chosen to take on in order to live the lives they feel they deserve. And Wall Street is only too willing to oblige them with credit, as they reap riches from the billions of interest paid each year by the debt slaves living on the plantation we call America. In addition to charging away their lives, Americans lie to themselves about how much debt they really have. It’s too painful to deal with reality, so they ignore it. The data in the report is frightening:

  • The amount of credit card debt carried by the average household carrying this type of debt is $15,355.
  • The amount of auto loan debt carried by the average household carrying this type of debt is $26,530.
  • The amount of student loan debt carried by the average household carrying this type of debt is $47,712.
  • The average household is paying more than $6,600 in interest per year, which means that roughly 9% of the average household’s income is being spent on interest alone.
  • Credit card debt — one of the most expensive types of debt — costs consumers an average of $2,630 per year in interest, assuming an average APR of 18%.
  • If you have the average amount of credit card debt ($15,355) and a 15% interest rate and only pay the minimum on that debt each month, it will take you more than 31 years to repay your debt and will cost you more than $18,600 in interest payments alone.
  • The average amount of credit card debt peaked at $16,912 in 2008, fell by 14% to $14,539 by 2012 as Wall Street banks wrote off billions in bad debt, and has since risen by 6% as consumers have been lured back by the Wall Street propaganda machine.
  • Consumers vastly underestimate or under-report how much debt they have. In fact, as of 2013, actual lender-reported credit card debt was 155% greater than borrower-reported balances.

Americans are embarrassed and ashamed by their levels of consumer debt, but they can’t stop. A record number of new cars will be “sold” this year with the highest level of auto loan debt in history, the longest loan length in history, rising percentage of subprime auto loans, and an all-time high in percentage of leases. These people are underwater on their auto loan/lease the second they drive off the lot. But at least their neighbors and co-workers think their successful. Appearances are all that seem to matter in our society today. Dying in debt will be common place in the coming years. Fully 21% of Americans say they don’t think they will be able to pay off their debts — including their car, credit cards, student loans and mortgages — in their lifetime, according to a survey of more than 1,000 adults by CreditCards.com. Our debt addict society is dying of an overdose.

The Fed’s master plan to revive the economy with massive doses of debt has failed. Main Street America is tapped out. Decades of minimal real wage growth, relentless inflation in the things we need to live (food, rent, energy, health care), and wasting money on Chinese produced consumer crap, has left the majority of American households with little or no savings and no disposable income. This is being reflected in the pitiful economic growth and plunge in retail sales since the end of QE3 in October 2014. Our system has become dependent upon exponential debt expansion, and as soon as the spigot is turned off, our economy crashes.

Bernanke chose to not voluntarily abandon the Fed’s failed credit expansion policies in 2008. The end of QE3 and the upcoming interest rate increase by Yellen will usher in financial collapse part two. There is no avoiding a collapse brought on by decades of warped monetary and fiscal policies, and irrational behavior by bankers, corporations and consumers. Even if Yellen reverses course when the economy plunges into a deep recession, catastrophe cannot be avoided.

“There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.”Ludwig von Mises

Our country has gone mad over the last few decades. We had a chance to come to our senses in 2008, wipe away the debt, liquidate the criminal Wall Street banks, prosecute the perpetrators, and reorient our economy and society back to one built upon savings and investment, rather than borrowing and consumption. It was not to be, as Bernanke and the Deep State decided their best interests trumped the interests of the people. The coming collapse hopefully will force Americans to come to their senses one by one.

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.” – Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, 1841

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hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 11, 2015 9:05 am

“Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche

“At length the Truth will out.”
– Willaim Shakespeare

Katze im Sack
Katze im Sack
December 11, 2015 9:28 am

“That which is about to fall, deserves to be pushed.”
– Friedrich Nietzsche

Gary
Gary
December 11, 2015 9:32 am

Matthew 24:12-13

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Luke 21:19

19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

goofyfoot
goofyfoot
December 11, 2015 9:37 am

Our neighbors got their son one of those ugly Ford Raptors last month. 45k for a 17 year old whiny brat. I don’t know what the payment is monthly but they sounded sooooo excited cuz the dealer gave em zero down cuz their fica score is supposedly “above that of the avg Jones’s.” I laugh cuz its already been back to the dealer 2x’s. The first week they had it the water pump gasket started leaking and needed to be replaced (remember, brand new quality UAW work.) After that, the fucking software/chip that locks in the transfer case burned up. This kid is a fucking douche and clueless. I told the wife I bet he takes up to NY somewhere off roading and rolls it. This kid can’t even spell the word JOB. I wouldn’t get this kid a pair of roller skates, let alone a new truck. The world loves wannabe’s.

suzanna grove
suzanna grove
December 11, 2015 9:46 am

HSF

It is a question of one’s value system. Faking wealth to impress others

may be a nightmare existence. How do people sleep?

I owe zero. Well, property tax/end of year. We have to save up and

account for fixed costs. The more thrifty of a couple is the one to keep

the books. The other can delight in a nice savings account.

mike in ga
mike in ga
December 11, 2015 9:48 am

Hey goofyfoot, it’s called buying love. Sounds like no respect in that household, either.

re: …And having no respect he ceases to love.” – Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

mike in ga
mike in ga
December 11, 2015 9:49 am

That is true freedom, Suzanna, or at least as close to it as we can get.

Jim
Jim
December 11, 2015 9:52 am

I have often wondered whether those with all that debt will have the last laugh as I live debt free–but that means sacrifice and although I live well, I live way below my means. However, when I see every lower class individual driving a Mercedes or new SUV, I know that it is all borrowed, But maybe these folks are right to live for the moment knowing they will never be able to pay it back. Just a thought.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 11, 2015 10:09 am

Looking back to the depression,

The average working man with debt and the average working man with no debt but no property or wealth both ended up in the same condition in short order.

Being out of debt isn’t enough, having money and resources put away is also required if you want to weather the crunch.

Gayle
Gayle
December 11, 2015 10:13 am

I just read this this morning:

Christian consciousness begins in the painful realization that what we had assumed was the truth was in fact a lie. Prayer is immediate: “Deliver me from the liars, God! They smile so sweetly but lie through their teeth.” Rescue me from the lies of advertisers who claim to know what I need and what I desire, from the lies of entertainers who promise a cheap way to joy, from the lies of politicians who pretend to instruct me in power and morality, from the lies of psychologists who offer to shape my behavior and my morals so that I will live long, happily, and successfully, from the lies of religionists who “heal the wounds of this people lightly,” from the lies of moralists who pretend to promote me to the office of captain of my fate, from the lies of pastors who “get rid of God’s command so you won ‘t be inconvenienced in following the religious fashions!” (Mark 7:8). Rescue me from the person who tells me of life and omits Christ, who is wise in the ways of the world, and ignores the movement of the. Spirit.

-Eugene Peterson in “A Long Obedience in the Same Direction”

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
December 11, 2015 10:17 am

This stuff is only money. 100, 150 years from now whether the USA defaulted on its debt or Social Security collapsed or a bunch of people got foreclosed will pale in importance to whether we allowed the Muslim percentage of the population to climb to 15%, 20%, 51%. In the grand sweep of history, it’s demographics that matters.

Paul1705
Paul1705
December 11, 2015 10:21 am

Regarding goofyfoot’s comment above: When I was seventeen I had many vehicles available for me, including the 1968 General Motors transit bus and the 1955 St. Louis Car Company R-17 subway car.

Jim
Jim
December 11, 2015 10:43 am

The thing that most bothers me as a saver and/or responsible citizen, is the prospect for bail ins or confiscations of said savings. It does not take a rocket scientist to know where the feds will look when they run out of the ability to take on more debt. Those with any money will be targeted as schmucks. Out.

Mercedes Jack
Mercedes Jack
December 11, 2015 10:46 am

Administrator,

“We all got duck when the shit hits the fan”
The Circle Jerks

Mongoose Jack
Mongoose Jack
December 11, 2015 10:46 am

Great article administrator. Somber stuff. My Mother, who lived through the Depression, would agree.

rob in Nova Scotia
rob in Nova Scotia
December 11, 2015 10:50 am

My Dad brought my brother and I a 1976 Pontiac Ventura for 200 bucks. A red 4 door shit-box. We had to fix it ourselves to get it on road. The road trips were, well they had to be, the script for Wayne’s World’s. My friends still talk about that car over 30 years later. Not all is lost. My son just bought himself a band new Honda Civic. He saved his money and made a large down payment from his own bank account. It was a left-over 2014 model, if you can believe it, marked down for clearance after siting around dealer for almost 2 years. The new car market where I live is truly fucked! They have run out of suckers.

But getting back to what Admin writes above I really think that this dog and pony shit-show is just about done. Fed is supposed to hike rates by a whopping .25% on the 16th of December. This latest twist, pun intended, will both fuck the stock market and here in Canada it will be the kill shot to the head of the Looney.

And just in time for Christmas. I can’t wait for sales numbers in January. The wags on TV already have their excuses on standby but those in the know behind the curtain have to be aware the gig is up.

SpecOpsAlpha
SpecOpsAlpha
December 11, 2015 10:51 am

“Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men’s protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values. Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it bounces, marked, ‘Account overdrawn.’

— ATLAS SHRUGGED

mike in ga
mike in ga
December 11, 2015 10:52 am

Admin, many, many times you have chronicled the sad realities of the debt bloated economy very well for which I thank you. I’ve read most of them, and this one is just as informative. There is one additional benefit or observation that you included with this one that got my attention and that is the Dostoyevsky quote regarding with no respect there can be no love.

Love requires trust and trust has been replaced by lies.

The trust our society had in its government has been replaced by lies.

Watching our indebtedness increase year after year without a major financial reset is one thing. Watching our society change in ways that reflect the never-any-consequences-to-our-actions is quite another and is by far the most dangerous aspect of the out-of-control unaccountability of government.

When trust is gone what is left or what takes its place? Fear, apprehension, distrust and hate.

When we look around today, those negative things are in great abundance. Trust and love, not so much. The emergence from the inevitable “reset” will likely be characterized by these negative behaviors.

To be poorer in money is no big thing, really, as that can be remedied. To lack positive attributes on a societal level, to be “poor in spirit” bodes ill on a much longer term.

You captured this very well and I hope your wish that we come to our senses, “one by one” comes true.

pablito
pablito
December 11, 2015 10:54 am

going into debt is betting that your future self will be happy with your previous choices.

going into bankruptcy is confirmation that your previous choices were not good.

saving for the future is ensuring that you will have the ability to make choices in the future.

“IF you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice” – Rush.

Happy Friday, fellow Burners.

Crat
Crat
December 11, 2015 10:58 am

Admin:

Why don’t you write a short fictional story on how you see things unfolding? Would love to get take on your view, also Stucky’s and Hardscrabble Farmer. I have an idea of how things MAY unfold, but getting well thought out narratives from different perspectives can be very instructive.

DRUD
DRUD
December 11, 2015 11:10 am

“I owe zero. Well, property tax/end of year. We have to save up and

account for fixed costs. The more thrifty of a couple is the one to keep

the books. The other can delight in a nice savings account.”

-Suzanna

I admire that, I really do. In any other time in history this would be wisdom of the highest order and even now it is admirable. It may all work out for the best…or your lack of debt may not matter in the least. The game has changed, in an case. The money you save is debt itself. Your savings account is legally a liability of the bank, to be defaulted upon at their whim. You rightly mention property taxes–an avenue for the State to take away your rightful property upon their whim.

My point is in no way to detract from the way you are doing things, but to illuminate how fucked up the system really is. It is not possible to live without debt, when even the currency itself (which MUST be used) IS debt.

Capn Mike
Capn Mike
December 11, 2015 11:19 am

@Jim,
Like minds. A lot of people in my son’s neighborhood (the repo capital of the World, Manteca, Ca.) “lost” their houses (including his step-parents). But wait, they’re all still living there! Most of them declared bankcruptcy, refi’ed with Bernanke bucks, and are now happily running up new debt!
I, as a saver, expect to get “proper fucked” on the whole deal. As Keynes said: “In the end, we’re all dead”, and that seems to be the current rule of the game.

wdg
wdg
December 11, 2015 11:26 am

Those whom God wishes to destroy, he first makes mad. Euripides

The western world has gone stark raving mad. I never thought I would see this in my lifetime, although it has long been predicted, but it has arrived and we see it every day. Sanity and morality will not return until the madness has been expunged by a devastating collapse which hopefully will be followed by a rebirth. As they say, out of the ashes will come a new society but only after major suffering and hardship. At this stage, reform through reason or political process is futile and can be compared to having an informed debate in a lunatic asylum. It is simply not possible. Our energy needs to be focussed on protecting ourselves during the coming tsunami, preserving the best parts of our civilization during the dark ages, and putting in place the building blocks of a new civilization. Because what follows the collapse is not pre-ordained with possible outcomes that range from global tyranny to a renaissance of freedom, peace and prosperity. No one knows the outcome but any thinking person knows that this rotten, in fact diabolical, system that we all live under has to be destroyed before something better can emerge.

bb
bb
December 11, 2015 11:58 am

Could all of our woes be judgments from God for our sin of coveting which is idolatry ?

Jim , you are still doomed. Sorry

Thaisleeze
Thaisleeze
December 11, 2015 12:07 pm

A much better class of comment here at TBP compared to Zerohedge

Just a newbie saying

indubitably
indubitably
December 11, 2015 1:49 pm

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Joseph Goebbels

thc0655
thc0655
December 11, 2015 2:20 pm

We’re all feeling the vibrations through our shoes. Something’s wrong, and getting worse. Soon enough it will be this:

We’ve ignored reality. But we won’t be able to ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.

Beano McReano
Beano McReano
December 11, 2015 2:40 pm

Borrowing means you are simply betting on the future. Nothing wrong with that, unless the elite has planned something ELSE with YOUR future.

Jim
Jim
December 11, 2015 3:09 pm

I have also come to the conclusion that the VAST majority of the U.S. population is totally oblivious of the situation the country is in, let alone the serfdom that “debt” entails. Even most so called educated folks will just roll along , vote for Hillary,and carry on like they are living in the best possible time in history. With the exception of my wife and a few other individuals, I don’t even point out the obvious facts as one is immediately labeled a downer and shunned as a negative nelly. Oh well….

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
December 11, 2015 3:44 pm

Jim says:
“I have also come to the conclusion that the VAST majority of the U.S. population is totally oblivious of the situation the country is in…………”

That vast majority knows that their happiness is contingent on them remaining oblivious. That’s why they don’t want to hear about.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
December 11, 2015 3:49 pm

Another great article admin but I wish you’d slow down. It’s too hard to keep up with all the things posted here.

Fuck the antidepressants! TBP is all the antidepressant I need. Besides, my new Carlin-esque frame of mind makes the shitshow quite entertaining!

Skinny
Skinny
December 11, 2015 4:54 pm

Every time I begin to feel good about myself Quinny comes along with another TBP missive and I’m back where I belong. Speaking of anti-depressants, I’m sure several of the posters here can spare some from there stash. The Wall Street boys have quite the racket going. Charge 18% interest until the suckers are run dry, then get Uncle Sugar to pay off the principal. Rinse, lather, repeat. The reason all of us here are so grumpy is we haven’t figured out a way to get cut in.

Skinny
Skinny
December 11, 2015 5:00 pm

At least the masses will get to play their fantasy football. The greatest diversion since kitten videos.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/12/11/judge-orders-draftkings-shut-down-new-york/p4B99SqAYbaTFzsU2HhZNK/story.html?p1=Article_Recommended_ArticleText

Pirate Jo
Pirate Jo
December 11, 2015 7:03 pm

Don’t have kids.

starfcker
starfcker
December 11, 2015 7:24 pm

You paint with too broad a brush, jim. WhsWhatt about hardworking people like the boatengs, who did everything right, and still got screwed? http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/01/31/whahhhh-whahhhh-im-black-and-not-an-adult/

Jim
Jim
December 11, 2015 7:46 pm

starfcker–outstanding link. The foreclosed squatters look like what is going on here in suburban Cleveland. I am now making my way to the cabinet for my anti depressant for the weekend , a cople of good scotch on the rocks, Cheers!

Deanna Johnston Clark
Deanna Johnston Clark
December 11, 2015 8:01 pm

The economic blogs seldom mention gigantic things such as:

The drain of almost every household of drug abuse. Millions in $20s and $50s go out of Mom’s purse for family members with these cravings….not for the drugs, but for the electric bill or gas for work…one long emergency
It is called an illness requiring expensive therapies. But in 1931 the large drug abuse consumption in the US tanked, and stayed down until 1946. People just quit…preferring something to eat. Cocaine didn’t come back until the 1970s.

Where is the Christmas shopping? It’s parents and grandparents paying college loan installments, older children’s apartment rent, car insurance on cars with their names on the title along with the grown child’s. And it isn’t always because the kids are brats…though they need to learn to like bag lunches and coffee in a thermos.

fear & loathing
fear & loathing
December 11, 2015 8:18 pm

slightly off topic, visited a farmer friend this afternoon, cancer beginning to eat him away, saving pain meds so will be available for christmas, he is debt free, i live in squalor in my barn, happy as a pig in shit, yet what we both agreed on is how quiet it is where we live and how beautifu it is and how fortunate we are. HSF can appreciate this, what is funny, now that his time is short he has his farm looking great, mine is fallow. we both agree our life’s work was well worth it and what more can we leave those who follow. as always i enjoy all the posts and especially this site, with luck i will be around to see HSF world next year.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
December 11, 2015 9:08 pm

Admin- Home run!!! Not all of us slumbered after 2008, many have awakened. You have shook many and continue to do so with hard hitting articles like this.
The numbers are shocking, really, how the fuck did we squander our hard fought birthright in one generation, unbuttfuckinbelievable.
As a culture we deserve everything we got coming. Really, we are so far off track we litterally need fire for a prpoer cleanse.
“Lets take off and Nuke the whole site from low orbit, its the only way to be sure”
Fuckin Aye

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
December 11, 2015 9:30 pm

Anybody heard from efarmer?

EL Cibernetico
EL Cibernetico
December 11, 2015 9:47 pm

Crat says: Admin: Why don’t you write a short fictional story on how you see things unfolding?

Let me get this straight, you want folks to stop writing the truth and turn to fiction?
If you read long enough, you can make up your own scenario:
President Trump cuts a deal with Putin to turn Syria over to Russia in exchange for Snowden. The internet is shut down, the TBP crew is rounded up and sent to re-education camp. ESPN becomes the most trusted name in news – featuring intense round the clock coverage of the sports world incliding the latest on midget wrestling championships and international curling tournaments.
CNN doesn’t cover the riots at the welfare offices, the looting and burning of Walmart stores or indiscriminate drive by shootings on surface streets targeting Muslims and suspected Muslims like the group of Catholic nuns who were forced off the road and raped and killed because somebody mistook them for hijab wearing terrorists.
Trump appears regularly on CNN, Hugo Chavez style, entertaining the nation with long discourses on the problems facing the country and what he is doing to renegotiate our foreign debt and trying to get some of our burger flipper jobs back from other countries and hours long diatribes against America’s enemies.
The only thing we have to fear, he tells a broken nation, is fear itself, and hunger and the roaming bands of hungry people who are not worth saving anyway because they don’t have property or pay taxes or even vote.
The bankers are working hard, he says, to bring our economic problems to a quick and rapid solution. I’m happy to say we got that firebrand hoarder that was keeping your food and mine, we got HSF and Billy and all the farmers that have been trying to starve this country into submission. We declared all brown and black people illegal and the deportations to Mexico and Africa continue right now. Some have opted to resist in contravention of our just laws I imposed when I became president. These lawless ones have been dealt with severely. You can rest assured and sleep soundly knowing that your government is doing all it can to root out evildoers everywhere. We have special mobil tribunals prepred to mete out ready and quick justice…

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
December 11, 2015 10:00 pm

America will survive the United States.

Gold is a sapling, silver is an acorn.

EL Cibernetico
EL Cibernetico
December 11, 2015 10:12 pm

Yes but our president will become a vassal of the Russian Emperor who will collect tribute for payment to China and Russia.

Useless Eater
Useless Eater
December 11, 2015 10:35 pm

Speaking of lies….
When speaking of “household income” or “average household income,” I don’t see the taxes being taken into account. And what about the false wealth transferring not discussing the taxes paid on every item sold, regardless of how many times it is re-sold?
How about estate taxes and death taxes?
Congress’ only job is to rob citizens of their wealth. Every year they take a larger amount, in the name of paying for what you deserve and it being apportioned back to the “people.” LOL!
Citizens! HA HA! Every society since the beginning of time has called that slavery.
Are these your final figures? Do you stand behind these figures as being accurate, Administrator in Economy? Completely?
Even the ‘truth’ is full of lies.
Common sense is laughin’ it’s head off right about now.

starfcker
starfcker
December 11, 2015 10:43 pm

Jim (the poster), that link is one of the best that jim (the admin) ever put up. What strikes me is the author expected you to feel their pain. Instead she gave you an inside look at how the grift operates

Gil
Gil
December 12, 2015 1:54 am

This reads like the old timers who didn’t believe in debt but instead saved up money to buy things.

“Dang young’uns buy a house via a mortgage and saddle themselves with some 30 years of debt whereas back in my day I saved up the money to purchases the building materials then I built the house with my bares hands!”

Maggie
Maggie
December 12, 2015 6:54 am

[Administrator says:

Jim

Not on TBP. You’re way too optimistic. If you aren’t on anti-depressants after a month on TBP, you’re not paying attention. :)]

HAHA… that made me laugh in a cynical sort of way. Nick told me that I needed to quit reading the articles here because there isn’t anything I can do about it anyway. I told him that I wasn’t sure I could stop, but maybe I could cut down.

Jim… I’ve said it before… Nick and I saved, scrimped, drove old cars yadayadayada. Bought this 40 acres with cash and paid for the log home on a 3 year layaway plan (REALLY). Found a Mennonite builder who built the log home for about half what a commercial builder bid and have moved out here in the Ozarks to make our final stand.

However, no matter how debt-free you are in these United States of the American Dream, there is always the taxman. We planned for property taxes and have enough saved to pay them for a while or until the point where the assholes raise them to monthly rent levels and beyond. Because they can and they eventually WILL.

I’ve mentioned that my mother is now on dialysis and will be put into a nursing home once released from the hospital. Well, I know she has Medicare and a supplemental insurance plan, but I also know that the family farm is probably going to go away in medical bills. (Not lamenting… it is in the flatlands and there is no way I wanted any part of owning or living on that mosquito infested farmland. Is too high priced and too well known to produce lots of corn and beans for my paranoid mind. I prefer to be up here in the rocky hills, where there are places to hide when TEOTWAWKI starts.)

So, even those of us who are debt free are living a lie, in many ways. The electric co-op here just raised its rates again. The gas company added a delivery charge of $10, so even though the price of gas is down, there is now a normalization of the idea that they charge us money to come out to sell us their product. Soon, it will be $20 and so on. The animals I keep have to have feed and while I hope to eventually grow the bulk of their sustenance, I am not set up for that now and the feed store just a couple miles away closed for lack of local support, so now I have to travel 20 miles each way to buy feed. So, saying that we are living out here debt free and independent is not really the truth and thanks a lot ADMIN for making me admit that to myself.

And one of my rabbits is having kits probably today or tomorrow, even though she was supposedly not yet bred when I got her last month.

Everybody is living a lie. Even the damn bunny.

I still have Faith that God is in charge and that the bad guys eventually have to answer for their evil schemes. And even that is a lie, because we are all supposed to Love our enemies and pray for their redemption at the last second of their lives so they don’t have to face Hell. Really? The assholes screw us over and trample on our rights and freedoms, treating us as if we don’t matter at all and we are supposed to get on our knees and pray that they go to Paradise? Well, I will SAY I do, but I really hope they get what they deserve imho. So, my Faith appears to be challenged, doesn’t it?

So, Jim, Admin is right. If you keep reading here, you will lose that optimistic tone and be as cynical as the other TBPers. But, you’ll be amongst some of the most clever folks around these parts.

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