Why will people piss away thousands of dollars on cable tv, dinners out, sporting events, concerts, health INSURANCE, and TONS of shit they don’t need, but when you ask them to spend $100 on their own health, they feel that that’s a travesty of justice and crazy to think of putting out ANY money in that area?
What does “but when you ask them to spend $100 on their own health” mean?
Seems like everyone I know or have ever known has and still does spend more than that on their health, and I’m not talking about healthcare insurance.
I suppose “health” is a rather broad category to give a real answer to that question.
What really gets me is that chiropractic isnt covered by most insurance. Sure, you might have some kind of token coverage, but the price you pay ends up being basically the same as you would pay if you had no insurance. This is how I know the healthcare system is a fraud. Between lack of chiropractic and inundation with carbs, it is clear that the healthcare system is designed first and foremost to break people.
Americans have grown fat and lazy when it comes to personal health . I swore when I was a young man I’d NEVER have a big pot gut like the old guy I saw. At almost 57 I’ve kept that promise. I love working out…always have . Plus I get to see the pretty gals working out too .
Eating healthy etc. isn’t cheap . Processed foods are cheaper, easier to prepare and are a mom’s dream when she’s worked all is hasn’t got the energy to cook for the family .
100 buck for my personal health is a drop in the bucket .
” … but when you ask them to spend $100 on their own health …” ——— article
Can you be more specific?
I was pushing a wheelbarrow full of bottom soil up a steep hill and popped a rib out of it’s socket in my spine so it stuck out my back just under the skin and hurt like a knife was stuck in my back. At the advice of friends, I went to a Chiropractor who put me on my chest on a table and manipulated and pounded the bone back into place where it has stayed and it was worth whatever it cost me and I’ve been more careful with these old bones since. I’ve noticed that since co-pays went way up, the doctor’s office is always nearly empty.
I would like to see what you mean by “asking them to spend $100” before I could even begin to understand what your point is.
rhs jr
Ummm ……….. you had a RIB …. sticking OUT YOUR BACK ……. and you fucking went to a CHIROPRACTOR???
IF that’s really true ….. you are sooooo much crazier than I suspected. Fucken’ nuts, even. And I think I mean that in a positive way.
Chiropractic, real food, probiotics, supplements, bone broth, hell, even gym memberships.
My chiropractor is only 40 bucks a pop, but people batch they need costly insurance to cover it, like above.
Also, processed food is not cheaper than real food. Just easier and poisonous.
$100? WHERE?
The first year of ObamaCare (partial, short notice) I was paying $125 / month. Last year it was $225; this year it’s just over $300 PER MONTH. That used to be car-payment territory! And I have TWO (used to be one, new doctor “required” to have ObamaCare came up with another one) prescriptions, one real health condition (relatively minor).
To be fair, the new doctor provoked me into having a colonoscopy and a polyp removed because of that, so probably bought me a few years there. He’s also got some smarts about nutrition and exercise, so he has his points.
But my car is a 2001 model (when the 1999 died, I couldn’t afford to replace it) and it’s not looking all that good for a replacement this year, unless I get an older model. My house payment is sneaking up a few dollars every year (increased escrow for taxes). And food hasn’t gone down like gasoline (temporarily, I’m sure) has.
I have no cable, attend movies once or twice a month (and then, usually dollar cinema or matinee), eat dinners out once or twice a month (birthdays, anniversaries), cant’t afford to attend a football game at the university I last graduated from (they joined the PAC-12 and costs are still rising), last concert I attended was Chicago & Earth, Wind & Fire a few years back, and maybe I buy books from Amazon when I have a spare dollar or two. We do not live extravagantly, and with one still in college for another two years, we couldn’t if we wanted to.
One last note: HEALTH INSURANCE is not guaranteed acess to HEALTH CARE. When hospitals are shut down from overload / underpayment, more will figure this out.
I agree with you Maggie about question. However around here people lost their shit when hospital started charging two bucks for parking. They had protests, meetings, the works. Funny thing is it was best decision they ever made. Before they did this it was impossible to find parking when going to hospital. Turns out people were using place for free parking for years. Since then no problems. What is sad is that people spend more than that on a coffee and don’t think twice.
I spend way more than $100 a month on grass -fed meat, eggs from free-range hens, organic everything, and a broad array of supplements. I try to limit sugar and carbs, rarely eat processed food, and enjoy excellent health, so I think it’s cheap prevention. Delicious, too.
rhs,
Pull, don’t push, loads up steep hills.
If you slip and lose control of it it will run away from you if you’re pulling instead of over you if you’re pushing.
James, read the question, notice Health insurance was in the “piss away” category. Look into Samaritan. Under $200 a month and $250 per issue deductible.
Mike, why would you care what anybody spends their money on. It’s their money. I wouldn’t spend ten cents on probiotics or supplements. I’m just not that easy to scam. Eat a good variety of real food, keep active, get outside, simple stuff. A couple of buddies are doctors, they both say the same thing. Don’t smoke, don’t drink excessively, and don’t get fat. Those are the things that destroy your body. Keep those things controlled, and everything else is luck of the draw.
We are a nation of overgrown children. Hubs and I think it is because kids lose their sense of security (farmed out to daycare, plunked into indoctrination schools, parents get divorced, bombarded with inappropriate mature themes in the media–violence, gore, sex– that they cannot correctly process, etc) at a young age and never mature beyond it. From the womb on they are bombarded with chemical laden food and personal care products, shot full of vaccines as infants and small children, and handed mind numbing drugs if they dare act like inquisitive, active children that they are.
We load our kids with real psychological traumas and yet shield them from all of the actual obstacles that would help them grow. Mom will bring ten different men home and sleep with them all, dad will decide that he’s really a woman and start to wear dresses, but God (is it a microaggression to mention God?) forbid Junior should fall off a swing at the playground or not get a gold star at school.
Everything in our system is stacked against people attaining any sort of emotional maturity. And we are now on our second generation of this, emotionally handicapped people raising even more emotionally handicapped people.
Raise a nation of immature, confused and emotionally unstable children and you get a herd of pleasure seeking, responsibility adverse sheep.
Stucky, yes it was sticking out my back under the skin and yes I was stupid to be pushing something uphill; but it was routine for the Chiropractor, no Xray, no big wait, no big bill. If that makes me stupid, I sure don’t want to tell some of my real beauties.
I just finished eating pizza and drinking a Mountain Dew. So much for eating healthy on the road. Little had smoked salmon and milk.In other words he eats healthier than I do.
Star, a little reading for comprehension, the question is about those unwilling to spend on their health. I care when it’s someone I care about who suffers and complains because they won’t put out a few bucks to get it fixed when they spend thousands upon thousands on nonsense. I could give a shit how you piss away your money, and if you think probiotics are a scam, good luck to you. Listening to doctors, that’s the ticket, yup, it’s allllllllll luck.
Interesting enough rhs, it is illegal for a chiropractor to treat a dislocation.
Mike, your visual is touting Chiropractic Health ?
Umm no, I would not spend $100 on Chiropractic. I would and do spend over $100 on wholefood derived supplements. Why do you think people would hesitate to spend $ on their health? That is just not the case.
Not in yours Bea, but in the ignorant masses, it is a huge issue. I see it all the time, if it’s not covered, they don’t get it. Maybe not a problem among TBP as a whole, either. The IQ is quite a few ticks higher here than over at MSN or Yahoo.
The trouble with HEALTHCARE is that it has no relation whatsoever with health.
It is IN FACT a DEATHCARE. All so-called “healthcares” involve prescription drugs, and everyone of these is a concoction of small doses of poisons.
A prescription drug refers to a concoction that has been approved by the FDA. The curious thing here is that, before the FDA will accept such concoction for evaluation, the applicant must submit a form LD50 (Lethal Dosage 50%). A form that specifies an amount of the concoction that will kill 50% of those who take it, along with other related information.
Thus, while most of these concoctions will result in one or two positive benefits, they all have ingredients that will cause one or two dozen adverse reactions – indigestion, weakness, dementia, death et cetera.
The net result, in other words, is always negative – a step closer to degeneration, to a worse condition than what one started with, to a quicker death than necessary.
There is a reason why governments subsidize these poisons: to cause people to die as quickly as possible after they retire and to fleece them of their property. This allows various retirement systems (Social Security, state and federal retirement systems) to function another year, or decade – and to leave the following generation as destitute as possible. (See “Is Social Security Cheating Taxpayers?” (https://redressone.wordpress.com/cheat/)
There is a better way: a health regimen that has REDUCED MY BIOLOGICAL AGE AT LEAST 50 YEARS. My validation of this is irrefutable. I am over 70, and I can hit 110 mph pitches better than major league players can hit 95 mph pitches (go to YouTube and search for “1668-85” or my webpage (http://redressone.wordpress.com/turn/), each leads to the other.
Anthony, with that swing, you ain’t making the majors. There are plenty of over 60 leagues out there, you should put your money where your mouth is.
Mike, a little reading comprehension on your part could help. Doctors? They have the best and most science education of anybody in society. You’ve heard of science, right? You know, the accumulation of mankind’s knowledge since the begining of time? Oh, THAT science. Sorry to confuse you. Most health problems are caused by the 3 causes I listed. Do you disagree.? Got any examples? We agree totally on good food. The Holy grail of health, in my eyes. I was just tweaking you on the girl scout cookies for fun, I’m not an absolutist on anything. Good habits, over time, equals good health. And good health never has, and never will come out of a bottle. Never been to a chiropractor, but do get occasional spinal adjustments when I need them, from a D.O.
We agree on most Star, but, in my experience, most doctors are just shills for Big Pharma. God Bless you if you have a good one. As for going for a spinal adjustment from a D.O., I get my car serviced at Hair Cuttery, they do a great job.
Rob in Nova Scotia…It’s the same thing with the hospital parking here in my GTA suburb…the government taxes the crap out Canadians to provide so called ‘free healthcare’ for everyone, and people attend the local hospital for all types of procedures for which they never receive a bill, but when the hospital started charging for parking, people have not stopped complaining.
My town ended up deputizing the receptionist at the medical arts building across the street from the hospital so she could issue parking tickets because so many people were parking in their lot and walking across the street to the hospital just so they didn’t have to pay for parking.
Mike in Pa, I did read the question. He puts “\Health insurance was in the “piss away” category”. I HAVE NO CHOICE but to pay for “health insurance”; didn’t you notice that part where the IRS “administers” the penalties for not having health insurance under ObamaCare? They knew no one would willingly pay for this nonsense if they weren’t forced to, so they will “deduct” the penalty from your “refund” is you’re due one.
It’s only a matter of time before that becomes an assessment. Roberts vicitimized us ALL when he re-interpreted the “penalty” in the plain language of the law as a “tax”. And who collects taxes?
THAT’S where Roberts dropped the ball, badly. The legislators (or, actually, the medical / pharma lobbyists who wrote it) were ignorant: Congress CANNOT levy “penalties”, they can only assess TAXES. THAT RIGHT THERE should have made ObamaCare invalid and unConstitutional. Roberts saved their bacon, and really should make him eligible for impeachment for failing his primary duty, to keep unConstitutional laws from taking effect.
http://www.grubstreet.com/2016/03/west-virginia-lawmakers-raw-milk-sick.html?mid=twitter_nymag
” Doctors? They have the best and most science education of anybody in society. ”
Now, that’s just funny as shit, maybe the funniest thing I’ve read all day. ‘Course it’s not yet noon here.