No Fly No Buy: Obama’s Last Ditch Effort To Cripple The Second Amendment

Submitted by Joshua Krause via TheDailySheeple.com,

There’s one thing that all gun grabbing politicians have in common. They are all quite adamant that they don’t want to take your guns. They’ll tell you over and over again that all they want is a few reasonable regulations. Every once in a blue moon they’ll let their guard down in front of an reporter, and reveal their true long-term intentions, but by and large they’re always trying to put a reassuring face on their gun grabbing agenda.

Obama for instance, has consistently claimed throughout his presidency that all he wants is a few “reasonable” restrictions, and that all he intends to do is keep guns out of the hands of “bad guys.” Whenever he talks about it however, you can read between the lines and find his ulterior motives.

At a recent Town Hall meeting, Obama was put on the spot by gun store owner, who asked him why he wants to restrict gun use for law-abiding citizens. The video has since gone viral among liberals who think that the president gave a stellar response. In reality, he merely showed us his true colors.

“First of all, the notion that I or Hillary or Democrats or whoever you want to choose are hell-bent on taking away folks’ guns is just not true,” he claims “And I don’t care how many times the NRA says it.” Obama then goes on to make the case for restricting gun ownership for people who find themselves on the no fly list, and cites an example of someone who has been visiting ISIS websites but is still allowed to buy firearms.

 

“So sir I just have to say respectfully, that there is a way for us to have common sense gun laws. There is a way for us to make sure that lawful responsible gun owners like yourself, are able to use them for sporting, hunting, protecting yourself. But the only way we’re going to do that is if we don’t have a situation in which anything that is proposed is viewed as some tyrannical destruction of the Second Amendment.”

Unfortunately, his idea to restrict gun ownership for people on the no-fly list is exactly the kind of thing that could lead to the tyrannical destruction of the Second Amendment. In a perfect world it would be nice if we could keep guns away from terrorists, but restricting the gun rights of people who are on the no-fly list is anything but reasonable or “common sense.”

That’s because literally anyone can find themselves on the no-fly list. You don’t have to commit a crime and you don’t need to visit any suspicious websites. They can take away your right to travel freely without any due process whatsoever. At best, all the government needs to do is hear that you might have some sympathies for a terrorist organization, and you’ll be barred from being on a plane for life.

As Techdirt.com pointed out last year, more than a third of the people on the no-fly list have no known terrorist affiliations. If Obama’s plan were ever put in place, you could lose your right to bear arms over nothing more than a hunch or a rumor.

Leaks to the Intercept revealed that the “process” by which people are put on either the no fly list or the terrorist watch list basically involves hunches, and revelations from just a few months ago show that DHS still uses flim flam pseudo science to put people on the list based on hunches that the government laughably calls “predictive judgment,” but which experts have said has no scientific basis whatsoever.

 

If you want to understand how incredibly wrong this proposal is, you just need to replace “buy guns” with something else, like “the right to assemble” or “the right to use the internet.” It’s easy to say: “What could possibly be the argument for allowing a terrorist suspect to use the internet?” But then you remember that these aren’t actual suspects — they’re just people put on a list by law enforcement with no thorough process, let alone due process to defend themselves or to get off the list. And, of course, being a “suspect” doesn’t mean you’re guilty. Innocent until proven guilty used to actually mean something.

And let’s not forget, that our government has a very broad definition of “terrorist,” and has in the past claimed that conservatives, libertarians, veterans, and Christians should be watched closely for their supposed terrorist potential (i.e., the groups that are most likely to own firearms).

Sorry Obama, but you’re a gun grabber plain and simple. At best perhaps, you’re ignorant of what your proposal could do to our rights, and at worse you’re lying to the American people. You know exactly what a “no-buy list” would lead to. Furthermore, the fact that more guns were sold during your administration than any other in history does not prove that you’re not trying to take our guns, it’s only proof that you’ve failed to take them. You can sugarcoat your anti-Second Amendment vision, and claim that you just want to make us all a little safer, but we know what your ideas would do to our rights.

 


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Fabulous
Fabulous
June 9, 2016 6:30 am

Does anything prevent a terrorist from buying a plane? We have a plane. No one’s ever said a word about us flying with our personal defense items on board.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 9, 2016 6:33 am

.What keeps the boot jack off our throats?The right to bear arms!

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
June 9, 2016 6:50 am

If people from ISIL can walk into any gun store in America and buy as many guns and as much ammo as they like without being told no the big question is why did your State Department/Homeland Security/ICE and Border Patrol let them in?

If his mouth is moving, he;s telling you lies.

kokoda
kokoda
June 9, 2016 7:16 am

Regressives remind me of Islamists – they will lie to achieve their goals. Their ‘purposeful deception’ (lie) is the means for martyrdom.

indigentandindignant
indigentandindignant
June 9, 2016 7:32 am

Whats really fucking stupid about the gun debate, is that a creative man could do a helluva lot more damage with things other than a gun. I cited 3 really good ways/examples but deleted them because, well, I dont need a visit.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 9, 2016 7:35 am

Everything Obama has done he has been allowed to do because no one stopped him and no one seems to have the political will to do so.

It will be the same with Hillary when she becomes President.

But, as so many around here constantly stress, it makes no difference who is elected. It will be the same with Trump as with Obama or Hillary, there is no difference between them and what they will do.

So just go home, pacify yourself with something, and ignore the upcoming elections since they are meaningless.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
June 9, 2016 7:38 am

“… ignore the upcoming elections since they are meaningless.”

Yup.

DDearborn
DDearborn
June 9, 2016 8:30 am

Hmmm

I disagree that the upcoming elections are meaningless. Such rhetoric which seems to be an increasingly common refrain suggests that a Trump Presidency would be no different than a Clinton Presidency in many crucial respects. To that I say hogwash.

Trump is Pro Gun, Pro 2nd Amendment.
Hillary hates guns and despises the 2nd Amendment (except those used by her security detail)

Trump believes in protecting America and Americans by sealing our borders
Hillary believes in protecting Israel and sealing its borders

Trump believes in protecting the American worker and apposes illegal immigration
Hillary believes in Corporate profits and unlimited immigration.

Trump will nominate a conservative Judge who is not Jewish to the Supreme Court.
Hillary already supports putting another liberal Jewish Judge on the court giving Jews the majority.

Trump believes in putting America and Americans first.
Hillary believes in putting Corporations and their global markets first.

The idea that electing Donald Trump is not vital to America and Americans is a notion that originates with the very same people that backed Sanders and are now forced to back Hillary. And it goes without saying that putting America and Americans first is not on their list of priorities. The bottom line is that Trump can only win if there is a record Republican turnout. Hence the constant drumbeat you are hearing from the media that this election is not important, your vote is not important so don’t vote. Good grief.

Voting is a vital part of every American’s civic duty. I have on occasion in the past suggested that I do might not vote; I WAS WRONG!

“Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you.”
— Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Ed
Ed
June 9, 2016 9:14 am

“The video has since gone viral among liberals who think that the president gave a stellar response. In reality, he merely showed us his true colors.”

Also note that comments have been disabled on the linked video page by the account: PBS News Hour. The way liberals blindly swallow whatever the Kikuyu says is helped along by the MSM outlets reporting on his vapid pronouncements. No dissent is allowed unless the dissenter is obviously deranged or can be made to appear so.

The motherfucker clearly wants to disarm everyone but his own protectors and enforcers. Anybody who can’t see that doesn’t want to see it, and/or agrees with him.

Fabulous
Fabulous
June 9, 2016 9:54 am

I see a lot of commentary on what trump believes. Mind readers, wish I was one. Saying something, and believing in what you say, are not the same. I accompanied Gregory to an event where the Donald and the Clinton’s were smiling and talking like old friends. Just saying. Wish we had stayed beyond introductions. I believe they were also later at his wedding. I don’t think they are the mortal enemies they are made out to be.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
June 9, 2016 10:19 am

Thanks…I’ll keep my guns. No matter who is in power,no matter what law is passed. Protection from folks that will harm me is my natural God given right,whether they are individuals or in packs ( like CONGress ). Any law that is passed that infringes on those rights in null and void in my book

If in the future if someone see’s me pour oil over my garden it will because I don’t want my guns to rust.

TJF
TJF
June 9, 2016 10:20 am

So, he wants to infringe on our right to bear arms if we are suspected of a pre-crime?

Fuck him.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
June 9, 2016 10:31 am

“why did your State Department/Homeland Security/ICE and Border Patrol let them in?”

So that they could use them as an excuse to curtail the 2nd amendment. Amongst others. How’s the first doing these days?

harry p.
harry p.
June 9, 2016 11:48 am

“If you think it’s time to bury your guns, it’s more than likely time to dig them up.”

nkit
nkit
June 9, 2016 2:03 pm

“I’m not looking to disarm you.”

“If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period.”

“The average American family will save $2500.00 per year under the Affordable Care Act.”

“We’ve got to spend some money now to pull us out of this recession. But as soon as we’re out of this recession, we’ve got to get serious about starting to live within our means, instead of leaving debt for our children and our grandchildren and our great-grandchildren.”

Thinker
Thinker
June 9, 2016 4:01 pm

Furthermore, the fact that more guns were sold during your administration than any other in history does not prove that you’re not trying to take our guns, it’s only proof that you’ve failed to take them..

Wrong conclusion. The reason more guns have sold during Obama’s term in office is because people feel a greater need to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. Because he is one.

Rise Up
Rise Up
June 9, 2016 7:53 pm

Seems like Fab is a 1 percenter…owns a plane, the best handguns, expensive kitchen appliances.

Wonder why she posts here.

What’s the story, Fab?

jamesthewanderer
jamesthewanderer
June 10, 2016 11:52 am

Next public meeting someone should recite a list of his lies, and ask why we should believe whatever he is saying now, or anything he says in the future. The whole DC sewer is a nest of liars and thieves, and we would be well rid of it to start over.