Donald Trump’s speech on Orlando shooting and national security

Thank you for joining me today.

This was going to be a speech on Hillary Clinton and how bad a President, especially in these times of Radical Islamic Terrorism, she would be.

Even her former Secret Service Agent, who has seen her under pressure and in times of stress, has stated that she lacks the temperament and integrity to be president.

There will be plenty of opportunity to discuss these important issues at a later time, and I will deliver that speech soon.

But today there is only one thing to discuss: the growing threat of terrorism inside of our borders.

The attack on the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando, Florida, was the worst terrorist strike on our soil since September 11th, and the worst mass shooting in our country’s history.

So many people dead, so many people gravely injured, so much carnage, such a disgrace.

The horror is beyond description.

The families of these wonderful people are totally devastated. Likewise, our whole nation, and indeed the whole world, is devastated.

We express our deepest sympathies to the victims, the wounded, and their families.

We mourn, as one people, for our nation’s loss – and pledge our support to any and all who need it.

I would like to ask now that we all observe a moment of silence for the victims of the attack.

[SILENCE]

Our nation stands together in solidarity with the members of Orlando’s LGBT Community.

This is a very dark moment in America’s history.

A radical Islamic terrorist targeted the nightclub not only because he wanted to kill Americans, but in order to execute gay and lesbian citizens because of their sexual orientation.

It is a strike at the heart and soul of who we are as a nation.

It is an assault on the ability of free people to live their lives, love who they want and express their identity.

It is an attack on the right of every single American to live in peace and safety in their own country.

We need to respond to this attack on America as one united people – with force, purpose and determination.

But the current politically correct response cripples our ability to talk and think and act clearly.

If we don’t get tough, and we don’t get smart – and fast – we’re not going to have a country anymore — there will be nothing left.

The killer, whose name I will not use, or ever say, was born to Afghan parents who immigrated to the United States. His father published support for the Afghan Taliban, a regime which murders those who don’t share its radical views. The father even said he was running for President of that country.

The bottom line is that the only reason the killer was in America in the first place was because we allowed his family to come here.

That is a fact, and it’s a fact we need to talk about.

We have a dysfunctional immigration system which does not permit us to know who we let into our country, and it does not permit us to protect our citizens.

We have an incompetent administration, and if I am not elected President, that will not change over the next four years — but it must change, and it must change now.

With fifty people dead, and dozens more wounded, we cannot afford to talk around the issue anymore — we have to address it head on.

I called for a ban after San Bernardino, and was met with great scorn and anger but now, many are saying I was right to do so — and although the pause is temporary, we must find out what is going on. The ban will be lifted when we as a nation are in a position to properly and perfectly screen those people coming into our country.

The immigration laws of the United States give the President the power to suspend entry into the country of any class of persons that the President deems detrimental to the interests or security of the United States, as he deems appropriate.

I will use this power to protect the American people. When I am elected, I will suspend immigration from areas of the world when there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies, until we understand how to end these threats.

After a full, impartial and long overdue security assessment, we will develop a responsible immigration policy that serves the interests and values of America.

We cannot continue to allow thousands upon thousands of people to pour into our country, many of whom have the same thought process as this savage killer.

Many of the principles of Radical Islam are incompatible with Western values and institutions.

Radical Islam is anti-woman, anti-gay and anti-American.

I refuse to allow America to become a place where gay people, Christian people, and Jewish people, are the targets of persecution and intimidation by Radical Islamic preachers of hate and violence.

It’s not just a national security issue. It is a quality of life issue.

If we want to protect the quality of life for all Americans – women and children, gay and straight, Jews and Christians and all people – then we need to tell the truth about Radical Islam.

We need to tell the truth, also, about how Radical Islam is coming to our shores.

We are importing Radical Islamic Terrorism into the West through a failed immigration system — and through an intelligence community held back by our president.

Even our own FBI Director has admitted that we cannot effectively check the backgrounds of the people we are letting into America.

All of the September 11th hijackers were issued visas.

Large numbers of Somali refugees in Minnesota have tried to join ISIS.

The Boston Bombers came here through political asylum.

The male shooter in San Bernardino – again, whose name I won’t mention — was the child of immigrants from Pakistan, and he brought his wife – the other terrorist – from Saudi Arabia, through another one of our easily exploited visa programs.

Immigration from Afghanistan into the United States has increased nearly five-fold in just one year. According to Pew Research, 99% of people in Afghanistan support oppressive Sharia Law.

We admit many more from other countries in the region who share these same oppressive views.

If we want to remain a free and open society, then we have to control our borders.

Yet, Hillary Clinton – for months and despite so many attacks – repeatedly refused to even say the words “radical Islam,” until I challenged her yesterday to say the words or leave the race.

However, Hillary Clinton – who has been forced to say the words today after policies she supports have caused us so much damage – still has no clue what Radical Islam is, and won’t speak honestly about what it is.

She is in total denial, and her continuing reluctance to ever name the enemy broadcasts weakness across the world.

In fact, just a few weeks before the San Bernardino slaughter, Hillary Clinton explained her refusal to say the words Radical Islam. Here is what she said: “Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people, and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.”

Hillary Clinton says the solution is to ban guns. They tried that in France, which has among the toughest gun laws in the world, and 130 were brutally murdered by Islamic terrorists in cold blood. Her plan is to disarm law-abiding Americans, abolishing the 2nd amendment, and leaving only the bad guys and terrorists with guns. She wants to take away Americans’ guns, then admit the very people who want to slaughter us.

I will be meeting with the NRA, which has given me their earliest endorsement in a Presidential race, to discuss how to ensure Americans have the means to protect themselves in this age of terror.

The bottom line is that Hillary supports the policies that bring the threat of Radical Islam into America, and allow it to grow overseas.

In fact, Hillary Clinton’s catastrophic immigration plan will bring vastly more Radical Islamic immigration into this country, threatening not only our security but our way of life.

When it comes to Radical Islamic terrorism, ignorance is not bliss – it’s deadly.

The Obama Administration, with the support of Hillary Clinton and others, has also damaged our security by restraining our intelligence-gathering and failing to support law enforcement. They have put political correctness above common sense, above your safety, and above all else.

I refuse to be politically correct.

I will do the right thing–I want to straighten things out and to Make America Great Again.

The days of deadly ignorance will end, and they will end soon.

As President I will give our intelligence community, law enforcement and military the tools they need to prevent terrorist attacks.

We need an intelligence-gathering system second to none. That includes better cooperation between state, local and federal officials – and with our allies.

I will have an Attorney General, a Director of National Intelligence, and a Secretary of Defense who will know how to fight the war on Radical Islamic Terrorism – and who will have the support they require to get the job done.

We also must ensure the American people are provided the information they need to understand the threat.

The Senate Subcommittee on Immigration has already identified hundreds of immigrants charged with terrorist activities inside the United States since September 11th.

Nearly a year ago, the Senate Subcommittee asked President Obama’s Departments of Justice, State and Homeland Security to provide the immigration history of all terrorists inside the United States.

These Departments refused to comply.

President Obama must release the full and complete immigration histories of all individuals implicated in terrorist activity of any kind since 9/11.

The public has a right to know how these people got here.

We have to screen applicants to know whether they are affiliated with, or support, radical groups and beliefs.

We have to control the amount of future immigration into this country to prevent large pockets of radicalization from forming inside America.

Even a single individual can be devastating, just look at what happened in Orlando. Can you imagine large groups?

Truly, our President doesn’t know what he is doing. He has failed us, and failed us badly, and under his leadership, this situation will not get any better — it will only get worse.

Each year, the United States permanently admits more than 100,000 immigrants from the Middle East, and many more from Muslim countries outside the Middle East. Our government has been admitting ever-growing numbers, year after year, without any effective plan for our security.

In fact, Clinton’s State Department was in charge of the admissions process for people applying to enter from overseas.

Having learned nothing from these attacks, she now plans to massively increase admissions without a screening plan, including a 500% increase in Syrian refugees.

This could be a better, bigger version of the legendary Trojan Horse.

We can’t let this happen.

Altogether, under the Clinton plan, you’d be admitting hundreds of thousands of refugees from the Middle East with no system to vet them, or to prevent the radicalization of their children.

The burden is on Hillary Clinton to tell us why she believes immigration from these dangerous countries should be increased without any effective system to screen who we are bringing in.

The burden is on Hillary Clinton to tell us why we should admit anyone into our country who supports violence of any kind against gay and lesbian Americans.

The burden is also on Hillary Clinton to tell us how she will pay for it. Her plan will cost Americans hundreds of billions of dollars long-term.

Wouldn’t this money be better spent on rebuilding America for our current population, including the many poor people already living here?

We have to stop the tremendous flow of Syrian refugees into the United States – we don’t know who they are, they have no documentation, and we don’t know what they’re planning.

What I want is common sense. I want a mainstream immigration policy that promotes American values.

That is the choice I put before the American people: a mainstream immigration policy designed to benefit America, or Hillary Clinton’s radical immigration policy designed to benefit politically-correct special interests.

We’ve got to get smart, and tough, and vigilant, and we’ve got to do it now, because later is too late.

The media talks about “homegrown,” terrorism, but Islamic radicalism, and the networks that nurture it, are imports from overseas.

Yes, there are many radicalized people already inside our country as a result of the poor policies of the past. But the whole point is that it will be much, much easier to deal with our current problem if we don’t keep on bringing in people who add to the problem.

For instance, the controversial Mosque attended by the Boston Bombers had as its founder an immigrant from overseas charged in an assassination plot.

This shooter in Orlando was the child of an immigrant father who supported one of the most repressive regimes on Earth. Why would we admit people who support violent hatred?

Hillary Clinton can never claim to be a friend of the gay community as long as she continues to support immigration policies that bring Islamic extremists to our country who suppress women, gays and anyone who doesn’t share their views.

She can’t have it both ways. She can’t claim to be supportive of these communities while trying to increase the number of people coming in who want to oppress them.

How does this kind of immigration make our life better? How does this kind of immigration make our country better?

Why does Hillary Clinton want to bring people here—in vast numbers—who reject our values?

Ask yourself, who is really the friend of women and the LGBT community, Donald Trump with his actions, or Hillary Clinton with her words? Clinton wants to allow Radical Islamic terrorists to pour into our country—they enslave women, and murder gays.

I don’t want them in our country.

Immigration is a privilege, and we should not let anyone into this country who doesn’t support our communities – all of our communities.

America has already admitted four times more immigrants than any country on earth, and we continue to admit millions more with no real checks or scrutiny.

Not surprisingly, wages for our workers haven’t budged in many years.

So whether it’s matter of national security, or financial security, we can’t afford to keep on going like this. We owe $19 trillion in debt, and no longer have options.

All our communities, from all backgrounds, are ready for some relief. This is not an act of offense against anyone; it is an act of defense.

I want us all to work together, including in partnership with our Muslim communities. But Muslim communities must cooperate with law enforcement and turn in the people who they know are bad – and they do know where they are.

I want to fix our schools, roads, bridges and job market. I want every American to succeed. Hillary Clinton wants to empty out the Treasury to bring people into the country that include individuals who preach hate against our own citizens.

I want to protect our citizens – all of our citizens.

The terrorist attack on the Pulse Night Club demands a full and complete investigation into every aspect of the assault.

In San Bernardino, as an example, people knew what was going on, but they used the excuse of racial profiling for not reporting it.

We need to know what the killer discussed with his relatives, parents, friends and associates.

We need to know if he was affiliated with any radical Mosques or radical activists and what, if any, is their immigration status.

We need to know if he travelled anywhere, and who he travelled with.

We need to make sure every single last person involved in this plan – including anyone who knew something but didn’t tell us – is brought to justice.

If it can be proven that somebody had information about any attack, and did not give this information to authorities, they must serve prison time .

America must do more – much more – to protect its citizens, especially people who are potential victims of crimes based on their backgrounds or sexual orientations.

It also means we must change our foreign policy.

The decision to overthrow the regime in Libya, then pushing for the overthrow of the regime in Syria, among other things, without plans for the day after, have created space for ISIS to expand and grow.

These actions, along with our disastrous Iran deal, have also reduced our ability to work in partnership with our Muslim allies in the region.

That is why our new goal must be to defeat Islamic terrorism, not nation-building.

For instance, the last major NATO mission was Hillary Clinton’s war in Libya. That mission helped unleash ISIS on a new continent.

I’ve said NATO needs to change its focus to stopping terrorism. Since I’ve raised that criticism, NATO has since announced a new initiative focused on just that.

America must unite the whole civilized world in the fight against Islamic terrorism, just like we did against communism in the Cold War.

We’ve tried it President Obama’s way. He gave the world his apology tour, we got ISIS, and many other problems, in return.

I’d like to conclude my remarks today by again expressing our solidarity with the people of Orlando who have come under attack.

When I am President, I pledge to protect and defend all Americans who live inside of our borders. Wherever they come from, wherever they were born, all Americans living here and following our laws will be protected.

America will be a tolerant and open society.

America will also be a safe society.

We will protect our borders at home.

We will defeat ISIS overseas.

We will ensure every parent can raise their children in peace and safety.

We will make America rich again.

We will make America safe again.

We will make American Great Again.

Thank you.


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Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 4:00 am

IndenturedSerant: Keep reading, I was right all along and remain right. Visit the official Bailliffs of Quebec website. I posted it.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 4:01 am

I also pointed-out that I don’t work for the government, I’m independently licensed.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 4:10 am

Indentured, your advice is to assume your the dumbest person in the room, not to prove it, right?

Just making sure I got that part clear.

I have to learn the values of this intimate little club before you chase me out like a pack of ravenous wolves.

In other words I have to assimilate, conform to the will of the majority.

Yep, sounds like Trump’s plan!

llpoh
llpoh
June 14, 2016 4:13 am

IS – very funny!

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2016 4:30 am

Actually I don’t give a shit about your education or more specifically, lack of it. It is interesting to note that several canucks have called you out as well. Regardless of where your “license” comes from, you’re a paid govt enforcer drone. Not exaxctly something to be proud of in an era of uber corrupt govt.

As I said, you come in here sounding like a left wing MSM newscast and expecting the red carpet to be rolled out for you. That might happen over on huffpo or in the AOL kiddie forums but not here. You’ll either learn something here or you won’t. Your choice.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 4:37 am

‘Independantly’ employed. You miss words like the transcriber of Trump’s text (above).

I asked for a red carpet? Where? Are you hearing voices again?

Admit it, you want me to assimilate and yet you will call yourself anti-establishment. Should be anti-ANYONE ELSE’S BUT MINE-establishment.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2016 4:41 am

Doogie said:
“I have to learn the values of this intimate little club before you chase me out like a pack of ravenous wolves.”

Why do you have to twist everything that is said to you? Must be a Liberal survival tactic. You won’t be chased out, you’ll leave of your own volition primarily because this is not the echo chamber you thought it would be.

No assimilation is expected or wanted out of you. You have no fucking how diverse this group of shit throwing monkeys really is………not a fucking clue. We sure as hell don’t think alike even if it leads us to the same destination. All you have to do is back your shit up like I said. For instance, instead of posting the link you want us to visit, why not post the relevant text from said link that way we can all compare apples to apples.

Fwiw, I’m not voting for tRump…….don’t give a shit about him or any other candidate. I’ve not watched or read a single speech from any candidate this cycle, nor will I. Years ago a rather intelligent man defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Voting for the US President or any federal candidate has qualified as insanity since the year of my birth.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2016 4:44 am

I’m quite capable of governing myself so I have no need of any “establishment” yet I’m surrounded by assholes who insist I submit to their flavor of establishment. Fuck you!

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2016 4:49 am

Doggie Pecker said:
“your advice is to assume your the dumbest person in the room”

All that fucking “education” and you don’t know the difference between *your* and *you’re*.

If you can’t understand the gist of my comment then you really only have a piece of paper that says you went to school, not an education.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2016 4:59 am

Ok butt plug, define “independently employed”. Where do the dollars in your paycheck come from? Tax dollars? Are your bailiff duties part of your own independently owned business? Are you a contractor? Subcontractor? Who sets your work schedule.

Not that a fucking twit like you would notice such details with your cockholster flapping at a such a furious rate but to be specific you said: ” I’m independently licensed.” and then you said: ” ‘Independantly’ employed.” So go ahead, define exactly what you mean by each term and then we can get down to brass tacks.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2016 5:03 am

Admin really does need an IQ test for admission to this site.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2016 5:11 am

Come on Doogie, I gotta go to bed in an hour or two. I have a real job in the private sector and I’m so damned good looking I need my beauty sleep!

Fear not though, the morning shift simians will be in to give ya what fer shortly!

ZombieDawg
ZombieDawg
June 14, 2016 5:29 am

Who really knows who did what and who controls who anymore.
The greed, stupidity, arrogance and corruption is so deep in the US halls of power we just can’t trust anything or anyone in authority or what is said/done.

It’s like 9/11. We believe, we suspect but we just can’t PROVE.

It’ll take someone of absolute integrity to become president and do sweeping investigations on a level never before seen to clean the corrupt out, arresting, jailing and seizing ill gotten gains along the way. I don’t think Trump has that level of integrity or ruthlessness.

I believe the whole show is going to collapse very soon: no-one can save it now. Full stop.
And if that’s the case it seems appropriate that the most corrupt undeserving person should be in charge when it goes under so their name will be recorded in history.
Hillary is the obvious choice. Trump doesn’t deserve that.

Anyway, it’s interesting that this (probably staged event) is happening at the same time one of the biggest naval exercises since WW2 is happening in the China sea.
A distraction ?

How much accountability does the FBI have in this shooting?

http://www.activistpost.com/2016/06/confirmed-fbi-introduced-florida-shooter-to-informants.html

$25k reward !!
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/06/58403.html

I guess most people have severe distrust of the government eh…

Like I’ve been saying for years – it all mirrors the film “Demolition man’…
It’ll all play out the same, crash& burn the same way and rebuild the same way and then we repeat it all again…over and over and over.

starfcker
starfcker
June 14, 2016 5:30 am

That fucker called us a swarm of angry bees. Angry? I thought it was quite hospitable compared to the trial by fire some newbies get. Doogie has no idea.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
June 14, 2016 6:33 am

You know what I learned from reading this thread?

The divisions are too deep, too intractable for us to continue as any kind of unified political system. The wheels are coming off, daily and sides have already been chosen for most. This will not end in a compromise, there will be no bipartisanship. As the 4th Turning unwinds, I am reminded yet again why Yeats is one of the greatest poets of our time.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned.
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Fabulous
Fabulous
June 14, 2016 7:08 am

@Doug

“I’ve never been shot in a gay nightclub, does that negate your argument boa blah blah”

What? Maybe you should be. At the 35k$ Canadian, I made over a hundred times that last year. On pace for an 88 multiplier this year. Unless you reside in Vancouver, Gregorys car is worth more than your house. A sociology degree does not generate that sort of value. To society, or financially. I did find value in the course I took in high school. I use my education daily to great effect. I am astounded that you are unable to apply what you learned about simple social mobility and cultural mores to this instance. But you do work for the government, and I can apply my knowledge of sociology to that fact.

@indentured

I still think it seems a bit rapey to be carrying while out at a club. Not to mention illegal. If I don’t plan to drink, I do carry where legal.

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 14, 2016 7:20 am

Yup divisions are too deep. The camps have chosen their prophets. On one side we have Donald Trump even though many on Right still are having reservations. However no where near as bad as what has happened on left. The Prophet showed up on stage but was beaten before he started. Too stupid to realize his opportunity. Now Libtards are having buyers remorse at choosing

Fabulous
Fabulous
June 14, 2016 7:24 am

Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire.—– yeats

All empty souls tend towards extreme opinions—-yeats

We make out of the quarrel with others, rhetoric, but of the quarrel with ourselves, poetry——yeats

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 14, 2016 7:31 am

Cankles to lead them through this phase of fourth turning to the crisis. If it wasn’t for Hillary’s absolute lack of moral fibre maybe her incompetence could be considered an asset.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2016 7:33 am

HSF quoted Yeats:
“The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.”

As I just commented on the 17 Facts thread, the best don’t lack conviction, they simply have no desire to control others. They would prefer that others control themselves.

I know, pie in the sky just like Libertarianism.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2016 7:45 am

Fabulous said:
“I still think it seems a bit rapey to be carrying while out at a club. Not to mention illegal. If I don’t plan to drink, I do carry where legal.”

Well if both parties are carrying, does that not put them on their best behavior? Seems a bit rape preventative to me. 🙂 It should be legal to carry anywhere and I find those laws preventing it unconstitutional even though I lack the cajones to violate them at present. I abide by the law as well but I refuse to patronize any establishment that prohibits firearms unless I have absolutely no choice.

I would suggest that the LGBT community get into firearm training and ownership in a serious way but the few gay guys I know are vindictive little bitches. We’d [probably be having daily gunfights in cities and towns across America!

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 14, 2016 7:46 am

What is funny is Dookie seems to think this place is an echo chamber of Trump supporters. It’s not. Trump is spouting simple solutions to difficult problems. To make a deal and everything will be fine. But people are buying it anyways just like those of left were buying the Sanders cake and ice cream national tour he was on.

Ed
Ed
June 14, 2016 8:33 am

“As President I will give our intelligence community, law enforcement and military the tools they need to prevent terrorist attacks.”

They already have way more tools than they need to accomplish that goal. They just don’t have the goal of preventing attacks in their mission parameters. Their mission is to promote and cover up the source of terrorist attacks.

Yeah, an asshole with an absurd comb-over and a lust for power is just what Merka needs to “make it great again”. I can’t believe the way people fall for his bullshit.

TJF
TJF
June 14, 2016 8:42 am

It would be nice if someone with a different/dissenting viewpoints would post here and be able to actually carry out a reasoned and well thought out defense of their positions. I actually like to hear the ideas of folks who I disagree with as long as they are able to intelligently express themselves and have a productive conversation.

Instead we get Doug Becker. Better luck next time.

Fabulous
Fabulous
June 14, 2016 8:50 am

@indentured

Per your last paragraph, wonderful mental image. I can picture several variations of back turned shooting and shrieking. Anthony in his pink Halloween fairy costume, wand in one hand , dirty Harry Magnum in the other. Way too funny. Threads like this with commentary like Doug’s are why I just can’t visit the queer boards right now. So deluded. You will never convince them self defence is in their own best interest.

Gator
Gator
June 14, 2016 9:03 am

what the fuck is wrong with all of yall, feeding the troll like this. Someone even posted links about trolls above, how they operate, what to do, etc. His entire purpose in being here is to keep the discussion board from talking about anything meaningful, such as the actual post itself. I just skimmed the entire thread, this guy is yanking your chains and yall are falling for it. All you guys have been doing is refuting dumb things he said, on purpose, to make you spend time refuting his stupidity. Stop feeding it and it will leave.

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 14, 2016 9:11 am

You’re right Gator but it is too much fun!

David
David
June 14, 2016 9:12 am

Sociology degree, really, my scarecrow has a sociology degree. Back in the 70s and 80s guys only took sociology to meet silly freshmen girls.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 11:46 am

Absolutely no one responded to the editorialization comments. No one challenged the allegation that you all seek unison of voice, which is the tyranny of the majority in action. Instead, you attack an earned degree you don’t have and mistake a profession as if it were abnormal and unnecessary.

Go back to your cave. The light will hurt your eyes too much.

And you call yourselves Republicans! Most of you couldn’t tell me who I was alluding to just then.

But I’ll bite: In response to IndenturedServant’s questions about my schedule, as an independent contractor I set my own. My pay comes directly from whomever has called for my services and is deducted from the settlement.

Without folks like me, Trump would never have been able to have his bankruptcies processed. I am the part of the law that allows the “great ideas” and “principles” to become enactments. But you don’t get that, because anything ‘foreign’ to you is taboo.

IndenturedServant, admitting you don’t read is not admitting a virtue, but admitting you haven’t heard a single opinion expressed in more than three paragraphs on a blog is telling. Congratulations for having the courage to admit that!

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 12:14 pm

Administrator: You weren’t bored with the drivel you thought you could disprove???

I don’t need a meme to make my point. Memes appeal to the emotional rather than the critical aspect of the mind.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 12:21 pm

You always ignore any points I make anyway, so you’re like a dead mouse. I had my fun.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 12:31 pm

Excellent counter-argument. It avoids the issue completely.

Lifeless, listless, you can’t even see what you’re aiming at.

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 14, 2016 12:39 pm

Doug we don’t give a shit about your dumb Peeper ass. Around here it is a point of honour getting to 200. You are like the slut that hangs around at party. Everyone is tired of playing you but you won’t get the fucking hint and go home to your mommy.

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Come on let’s get this bitch to 200!

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Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 1:17 pm

Again with the seeking of confirmation from your peers? Tyranny of the majority much?

This IS certainly an echo chamber, thanks Rob in Nova Scotia for pointing that out.

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 14, 2016 1:28 pm

Lay another Dookie. You can do it.

195

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 14, 2016 2:02 pm

Come on Dookie. Ya gotta admit that that is funny picture….

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 2:06 pm

Wow, another stroke of genius Rob from Nova Scotia! Do you expect anyone to believe that that is a video of me at a rally just because the person is wearing a Canucks hat?

Typical, anyone who LOOKS a certain way must BE a certain way, then you wonder why we accuse people like you of being prejudiced….

Why not just stage the whole thing yourself next time, then you can really put words in my mouth.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 2:10 pm

Yep. First, that’s not a bailiff in Québec, that’s what we would call a Sheriff’s officer.

Why do I try?

Second, you must expect very little of your audience in the echo chamber if you expect that analogy to work. But I still respect the man who does that work.

You must be mad because he found YOUR calling (from the Protestant Ethic, but you all likely don’t read….)

Many of seem to not like people in the legal professions. Must be because of all of their ‘fancy talk’ confounding you with big words. That’s why you’re making straw men of my profession and attacking the straw men.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 2:13 pm

I made 53 comments, (not 200,) but in a world where 1.5 billion can be 10 billion, what does math matter?

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 14, 2016 2:14 pm

Shooting fish in a barrel. Glad you could play Dookie!

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 2:20 pm

Address the person, not some cardboard construction of him. That’s how to avoid the straw man.

Preferably, address the arguments he presents, not some version of them that h never advocated.

More big, ‘legal-sounding’ words, huh?

I’m not looking for your approval.

” Drones who owe their living to the state are commonly this dense, but Dougie is about as dense as they come.” I already responded to that. I guess you missed it because you don’t read and it disproved your argument, as did the proven editorialization of Trump’s speech.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
June 14, 2016 2:20 pm

Dougy- What IS your point ?

Advice for the day- Don’t be here when Llpoh wakes up in OZ. If he is in a bad mood you are toast.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 2:22 pm

Bea Lever (by the way, I like the name) a point like that should not need explanation. It is self-evident.

I fear no man, whatever his mood. I will only deal with his ability to reason.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
June 14, 2016 2:33 pm

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Unconstrained
Unconstrained
June 14, 2016 3:01 pm

OK, Dung Pecker, let’s play.

But before we get started I just want to state that name calling around here, along with the profanity, are simply means of expression designed to creatively adorn and address points of contention as well as to provide a certain measure of how strongly one feels regarding any topic at any given time. Or, on this thread, the invective could simply be the means to display how insignificant many think you are?

In any event, some here, call you “Doogie” which, to me, represents Doogie Howser, who was a fictional child on TV.

Personally, I dubbed thee “Dung Pecker”, because “Dung” represents “shit” and “pecker” represents a bird’s beak, pecking. Therefore, you are like a bird “pecking his beak into a pile of shit”. Unless, that is, you wish to define “pecker” in the phallic sense, which would then make you as “one sticking his dick into a pile of shit”.

Regardless, the offense is intended. And here is why:

In your first post way, way, above, you say (regarding Trump’s speech):

“So many words that amounted to saying nothing. He never once addressed the fact that the killer was born in America, so that “Trumps” the idea that the country one comes from determines their actions. All this could have been summarized into one word: Isolationism.”

In stating the above, you appear to be downplaying “Islam” as the obvious motive of the killer. Did the killer not call 911 and claim he was killing in the name of ISIS? What else could he have done to convince you as well as the others who choose not to see? Is it not obvious the killer was Islamic, and his parents were Islamic emigrating from Afghanistan? If you are so smart, in all that Trump said in his speech, why would you merely focus on the killer’s country of birth? Unless, this “apparent singleness of vision” was to simply allow your attempt to deflect the discourse into a debate regarding the old, worn-out, libtarded talking point of: “Isolationism”.

This is why Admin, in his post following yours, addressed your lack of understanding regarding “non-interventionism and border control” regarding “ILLEGAL immigration”. In all of your ostensible nuance, why are you unable to discern the difference between Trump’s stated positions on both LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration”? Why?

Furthermore, in attempt to understand your positions regarding this, as well as an invitation for you to direct your self-perceived, high powered acumen towards Trump’s opponent this fall (and also to allow you to define the distinctions between the two candidates), I asked you in my next post: “how Hillary will save us?”

You did not answer. Instead, you complained regarding the “name calling” and gave us this little gem:

“And ‘trolling’ now refers to holding an alternative viewpoint, even if it is substantiated by logic.”

Where is your logic, Doug? As I also mentioned in my above post, we were all “breathlessly awaiting your wisdom”. It never came.

Instead we got this:

“… the guy was a nutjob intent on killing people for the random rain that they were gay. You can believe he was an extremist or believe that he was a wannabe, that’s your call. I think the evidence is insufficient eithereither way.”

Exact quote above from the Dung Pecker. Do you really think the “evidence is insufficient” either way?

If so, then why are attempting to enter the debate? If the evidence is insufficient, that is? It seems you are trying to sell us something here. What is it? Is it that you, and the Mainstream press, desire to persuade the public that the massacre in Orlando was a “random gay” thing instead of an “Islamic” thing? Or do you really believe this? If so, why?

Moreover, in reading your comments here appear that you: 1.) are being deceptive in an apparent attempt to “troll” this post; 2.) you are stupid (which I don’t necessary believe, yet); OR 3.) you are simply self-deceived and/or addicted to the “Koolaid” buzz that you receive from websites like Salon.com or the Huffington Post. Which is it above: 1, 2, or 3?

I don’t believe you can (or will) answer honestly.

This is why, I believe, the conversation has since descended into personal attacks with you attempting to defend your education and career choice, etc, etc (above). I believe it’s because the various commenters here have been trying to help you face the bullshit of your own existence. You seem to simply parrot what the mainstream press feeds you. And, in attempting to defend yourself, you have only further displayed your pathetic state. In other words, methinks you “protest too much”. Or, you could be a somewhat successful troll? Not sure yet.

That all said, keep in mind none of us regular commenters here get along every day. We do disagree. And when we do, there is no room for bullshit. Or, political correctness, which is merely another term for bullshit.

As far as my position goes, all points are considered. But not all interpretations are accepted. Especially when deception and/or ignorance are apparent; like your word play in your original post on this thread as well as your adherence to your self-perceived intelligence and “nuance” in your later comments.

In my experience, more often than not, Occam’s Razor rules the day. I believe this is also called “common sense”.

Lou Dobbs says it well:

http://rickwells.us/lou-dobbs-obamas-terrorism-psyop-against-america/

What say you, Dung Pecker?

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
June 14, 2016 3:14 pm

Bea Lever doppler at 2:33pm.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2016 3:31 pm
Francis Marion
Francis Marion
June 14, 2016 4:02 pm
Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 14, 2016 4:16 pm