Donald Trump’s speech on Orlando shooting and national security

Thank you for joining me today.

This was going to be a speech on Hillary Clinton and how bad a President, especially in these times of Radical Islamic Terrorism, she would be.

Even her former Secret Service Agent, who has seen her under pressure and in times of stress, has stated that she lacks the temperament and integrity to be president.

There will be plenty of opportunity to discuss these important issues at a later time, and I will deliver that speech soon.

But today there is only one thing to discuss: the growing threat of terrorism inside of our borders.

The attack on the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando, Florida, was the worst terrorist strike on our soil since September 11th, and the worst mass shooting in our country’s history.

So many people dead, so many people gravely injured, so much carnage, such a disgrace.

The horror is beyond description.

The families of these wonderful people are totally devastated. Likewise, our whole nation, and indeed the whole world, is devastated.

We express our deepest sympathies to the victims, the wounded, and their families.

We mourn, as one people, for our nation’s loss – and pledge our support to any and all who need it.

I would like to ask now that we all observe a moment of silence for the victims of the attack.

[SILENCE]

Our nation stands together in solidarity with the members of Orlando’s LGBT Community.

This is a very dark moment in America’s history.

A radical Islamic terrorist targeted the nightclub not only because he wanted to kill Americans, but in order to execute gay and lesbian citizens because of their sexual orientation.

It is a strike at the heart and soul of who we are as a nation.

It is an assault on the ability of free people to live their lives, love who they want and express their identity.

It is an attack on the right of every single American to live in peace and safety in their own country.

We need to respond to this attack on America as one united people – with force, purpose and determination.

But the current politically correct response cripples our ability to talk and think and act clearly.

If we don’t get tough, and we don’t get smart – and fast – we’re not going to have a country anymore — there will be nothing left.

The killer, whose name I will not use, or ever say, was born to Afghan parents who immigrated to the United States. His father published support for the Afghan Taliban, a regime which murders those who don’t share its radical views. The father even said he was running for President of that country.

The bottom line is that the only reason the killer was in America in the first place was because we allowed his family to come here.

That is a fact, and it’s a fact we need to talk about.

We have a dysfunctional immigration system which does not permit us to know who we let into our country, and it does not permit us to protect our citizens.

We have an incompetent administration, and if I am not elected President, that will not change over the next four years — but it must change, and it must change now.

With fifty people dead, and dozens more wounded, we cannot afford to talk around the issue anymore — we have to address it head on.

I called for a ban after San Bernardino, and was met with great scorn and anger but now, many are saying I was right to do so — and although the pause is temporary, we must find out what is going on. The ban will be lifted when we as a nation are in a position to properly and perfectly screen those people coming into our country.

The immigration laws of the United States give the President the power to suspend entry into the country of any class of persons that the President deems detrimental to the interests or security of the United States, as he deems appropriate.

I will use this power to protect the American people. When I am elected, I will suspend immigration from areas of the world when there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies, until we understand how to end these threats.

After a full, impartial and long overdue security assessment, we will develop a responsible immigration policy that serves the interests and values of America.

We cannot continue to allow thousands upon thousands of people to pour into our country, many of whom have the same thought process as this savage killer.

Many of the principles of Radical Islam are incompatible with Western values and institutions.

Radical Islam is anti-woman, anti-gay and anti-American.

I refuse to allow America to become a place where gay people, Christian people, and Jewish people, are the targets of persecution and intimidation by Radical Islamic preachers of hate and violence.

It’s not just a national security issue. It is a quality of life issue.

If we want to protect the quality of life for all Americans – women and children, gay and straight, Jews and Christians and all people – then we need to tell the truth about Radical Islam.

We need to tell the truth, also, about how Radical Islam is coming to our shores.

We are importing Radical Islamic Terrorism into the West through a failed immigration system — and through an intelligence community held back by our president.

Even our own FBI Director has admitted that we cannot effectively check the backgrounds of the people we are letting into America.

All of the September 11th hijackers were issued visas.

Large numbers of Somali refugees in Minnesota have tried to join ISIS.

The Boston Bombers came here through political asylum.

The male shooter in San Bernardino – again, whose name I won’t mention — was the child of immigrants from Pakistan, and he brought his wife – the other terrorist – from Saudi Arabia, through another one of our easily exploited visa programs.

Immigration from Afghanistan into the United States has increased nearly five-fold in just one year. According to Pew Research, 99% of people in Afghanistan support oppressive Sharia Law.

We admit many more from other countries in the region who share these same oppressive views.

If we want to remain a free and open society, then we have to control our borders.

Yet, Hillary Clinton – for months and despite so many attacks – repeatedly refused to even say the words “radical Islam,” until I challenged her yesterday to say the words or leave the race.

However, Hillary Clinton – who has been forced to say the words today after policies she supports have caused us so much damage – still has no clue what Radical Islam is, and won’t speak honestly about what it is.

She is in total denial, and her continuing reluctance to ever name the enemy broadcasts weakness across the world.

In fact, just a few weeks before the San Bernardino slaughter, Hillary Clinton explained her refusal to say the words Radical Islam. Here is what she said: “Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people, and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.”

Hillary Clinton says the solution is to ban guns. They tried that in France, which has among the toughest gun laws in the world, and 130 were brutally murdered by Islamic terrorists in cold blood. Her plan is to disarm law-abiding Americans, abolishing the 2nd amendment, and leaving only the bad guys and terrorists with guns. She wants to take away Americans’ guns, then admit the very people who want to slaughter us.

I will be meeting with the NRA, which has given me their earliest endorsement in a Presidential race, to discuss how to ensure Americans have the means to protect themselves in this age of terror.

The bottom line is that Hillary supports the policies that bring the threat of Radical Islam into America, and allow it to grow overseas.

In fact, Hillary Clinton’s catastrophic immigration plan will bring vastly more Radical Islamic immigration into this country, threatening not only our security but our way of life.

When it comes to Radical Islamic terrorism, ignorance is not bliss – it’s deadly.

The Obama Administration, with the support of Hillary Clinton and others, has also damaged our security by restraining our intelligence-gathering and failing to support law enforcement. They have put political correctness above common sense, above your safety, and above all else.

I refuse to be politically correct.

I will do the right thing–I want to straighten things out and to Make America Great Again.

The days of deadly ignorance will end, and they will end soon.

As President I will give our intelligence community, law enforcement and military the tools they need to prevent terrorist attacks.

We need an intelligence-gathering system second to none. That includes better cooperation between state, local and federal officials – and with our allies.

I will have an Attorney General, a Director of National Intelligence, and a Secretary of Defense who will know how to fight the war on Radical Islamic Terrorism – and who will have the support they require to get the job done.

We also must ensure the American people are provided the information they need to understand the threat.

The Senate Subcommittee on Immigration has already identified hundreds of immigrants charged with terrorist activities inside the United States since September 11th.

Nearly a year ago, the Senate Subcommittee asked President Obama’s Departments of Justice, State and Homeland Security to provide the immigration history of all terrorists inside the United States.

These Departments refused to comply.

President Obama must release the full and complete immigration histories of all individuals implicated in terrorist activity of any kind since 9/11.

The public has a right to know how these people got here.

We have to screen applicants to know whether they are affiliated with, or support, radical groups and beliefs.

We have to control the amount of future immigration into this country to prevent large pockets of radicalization from forming inside America.

Even a single individual can be devastating, just look at what happened in Orlando. Can you imagine large groups?

Truly, our President doesn’t know what he is doing. He has failed us, and failed us badly, and under his leadership, this situation will not get any better — it will only get worse.

Each year, the United States permanently admits more than 100,000 immigrants from the Middle East, and many more from Muslim countries outside the Middle East. Our government has been admitting ever-growing numbers, year after year, without any effective plan for our security.

In fact, Clinton’s State Department was in charge of the admissions process for people applying to enter from overseas.

Having learned nothing from these attacks, she now plans to massively increase admissions without a screening plan, including a 500% increase in Syrian refugees.

This could be a better, bigger version of the legendary Trojan Horse.

We can’t let this happen.

Altogether, under the Clinton plan, you’d be admitting hundreds of thousands of refugees from the Middle East with no system to vet them, or to prevent the radicalization of their children.

The burden is on Hillary Clinton to tell us why she believes immigration from these dangerous countries should be increased without any effective system to screen who we are bringing in.

The burden is on Hillary Clinton to tell us why we should admit anyone into our country who supports violence of any kind against gay and lesbian Americans.

The burden is also on Hillary Clinton to tell us how she will pay for it. Her plan will cost Americans hundreds of billions of dollars long-term.

Wouldn’t this money be better spent on rebuilding America for our current population, including the many poor people already living here?

We have to stop the tremendous flow of Syrian refugees into the United States – we don’t know who they are, they have no documentation, and we don’t know what they’re planning.

What I want is common sense. I want a mainstream immigration policy that promotes American values.

That is the choice I put before the American people: a mainstream immigration policy designed to benefit America, or Hillary Clinton’s radical immigration policy designed to benefit politically-correct special interests.

We’ve got to get smart, and tough, and vigilant, and we’ve got to do it now, because later is too late.

The media talks about “homegrown,” terrorism, but Islamic radicalism, and the networks that nurture it, are imports from overseas.

Yes, there are many radicalized people already inside our country as a result of the poor policies of the past. But the whole point is that it will be much, much easier to deal with our current problem if we don’t keep on bringing in people who add to the problem.

For instance, the controversial Mosque attended by the Boston Bombers had as its founder an immigrant from overseas charged in an assassination plot.

This shooter in Orlando was the child of an immigrant father who supported one of the most repressive regimes on Earth. Why would we admit people who support violent hatred?

Hillary Clinton can never claim to be a friend of the gay community as long as she continues to support immigration policies that bring Islamic extremists to our country who suppress women, gays and anyone who doesn’t share their views.

She can’t have it both ways. She can’t claim to be supportive of these communities while trying to increase the number of people coming in who want to oppress them.

How does this kind of immigration make our life better? How does this kind of immigration make our country better?

Why does Hillary Clinton want to bring people here—in vast numbers—who reject our values?

Ask yourself, who is really the friend of women and the LGBT community, Donald Trump with his actions, or Hillary Clinton with her words? Clinton wants to allow Radical Islamic terrorists to pour into our country—they enslave women, and murder gays.

I don’t want them in our country.

Immigration is a privilege, and we should not let anyone into this country who doesn’t support our communities – all of our communities.

America has already admitted four times more immigrants than any country on earth, and we continue to admit millions more with no real checks or scrutiny.

Not surprisingly, wages for our workers haven’t budged in many years.

So whether it’s matter of national security, or financial security, we can’t afford to keep on going like this. We owe $19 trillion in debt, and no longer have options.

All our communities, from all backgrounds, are ready for some relief. This is not an act of offense against anyone; it is an act of defense.

I want us all to work together, including in partnership with our Muslim communities. But Muslim communities must cooperate with law enforcement and turn in the people who they know are bad – and they do know where they are.

I want to fix our schools, roads, bridges and job market. I want every American to succeed. Hillary Clinton wants to empty out the Treasury to bring people into the country that include individuals who preach hate against our own citizens.

I want to protect our citizens – all of our citizens.

The terrorist attack on the Pulse Night Club demands a full and complete investigation into every aspect of the assault.

In San Bernardino, as an example, people knew what was going on, but they used the excuse of racial profiling for not reporting it.

We need to know what the killer discussed with his relatives, parents, friends and associates.

We need to know if he was affiliated with any radical Mosques or radical activists and what, if any, is their immigration status.

We need to know if he travelled anywhere, and who he travelled with.

We need to make sure every single last person involved in this plan – including anyone who knew something but didn’t tell us – is brought to justice.

If it can be proven that somebody had information about any attack, and did not give this information to authorities, they must serve prison time .

America must do more – much more – to protect its citizens, especially people who are potential victims of crimes based on their backgrounds or sexual orientations.

It also means we must change our foreign policy.

The decision to overthrow the regime in Libya, then pushing for the overthrow of the regime in Syria, among other things, without plans for the day after, have created space for ISIS to expand and grow.

These actions, along with our disastrous Iran deal, have also reduced our ability to work in partnership with our Muslim allies in the region.

That is why our new goal must be to defeat Islamic terrorism, not nation-building.

For instance, the last major NATO mission was Hillary Clinton’s war in Libya. That mission helped unleash ISIS on a new continent.

I’ve said NATO needs to change its focus to stopping terrorism. Since I’ve raised that criticism, NATO has since announced a new initiative focused on just that.

America must unite the whole civilized world in the fight against Islamic terrorism, just like we did against communism in the Cold War.

We’ve tried it President Obama’s way. He gave the world his apology tour, we got ISIS, and many other problems, in return.

I’d like to conclude my remarks today by again expressing our solidarity with the people of Orlando who have come under attack.

When I am President, I pledge to protect and defend all Americans who live inside of our borders. Wherever they come from, wherever they were born, all Americans living here and following our laws will be protected.

America will be a tolerant and open society.

America will also be a safe society.

We will protect our borders at home.

We will defeat ISIS overseas.

We will ensure every parent can raise their children in peace and safety.

We will make America rich again.

We will make America safe again.

We will make American Great Again.

Thank you.


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Zebra
Zebra
June 13, 2016 11:04 pm

Honestly Doug, i’m happy to see you here on TBP. All different opinions are most welcome. Keep coming back.

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 13, 2016 11:04 pm

Yup Doug is a court bitch and he loves it. Likely a fat piece of shit too!

llpoh
llpoh
June 13, 2016 11:10 pm

Ah-ha! I knew it! Dookie the fucking slimebag comes back with the argument I said he would: “Somebody has to do it”. Indeed.

But only a real low-life piece of shit will do it. And Dookie fills the bill exactly. It takes a special kind of turd to spend his/her life collecting from the down-trodden. But, hey, someone has to do it. attaboy, Dookie, you pawn of the government. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 13, 2016 11:10 pm

Lloph et al

Cegep is just a glorified High School. A big whoopdee doo for the most brilliant Dookie. You made it thru CEGEP.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 13, 2016 11:11 pm

So LPOH, College is High School? There must be a lot of college graduates in the US who are surprised to learn that…

Quebec: Civil Law. (French Napoleonic code)
Canada: Common Law (Borrowed through the English from the Romans)

Formaly, there is no requirement besides the licensing to enter the Bailiff’s profession, but also formally, you don’t need a bachelor of laws to attempt the bar.

A third of the licensed bailiffs in Quebec have been bailiffs for 20 years plus, and quite a few are court bailiffs. Times change though, and different settings have different requirements. You don’t need to be licensed to be a court bailiff or a “greffier” but they are mixed into the pot.

And Krank, I didn’t bring the issue of my education up until I w,as accused of having none, so I brought the facts to the fore. Who knows, I may even have other degrees but I suppose it’s taboo to be educated around here.

Nice to know that you value certain professions over others. Where does the flip come in terms of respectability, and what is the order in which your little system is arranged? Are only medical doctors ‘proper’ human beings? Where do plumbers and scientists and (dare I say it) artists fit in?

Fabulous
Fabulous
June 13, 2016 11:12 pm

Ok, so there is a grand total of 15,000 people in prison in Canada and 75percent are visible minorities. And yet Doug still doesn’t get the “don’t assimilate thing”. Rikers island has 9000 officers and processes 100,000 inmates per year in comparison, with a 10,000 permanent inmate population. 95percent at rikers are racial minorities. So, in summary, Doug, if you can’t understand these simple numbers and what it actually means, you didn’t learn anything at all in school. Go to bed now. Get some sleep. Don’t want to be late for work. Don’t forget to pack a lunch. Pro tip:if you warm your thermos with hot water, then pour it out, your soup will stay warmer. Come back another time for a lesson on why climate change is nonsense.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 13, 2016 11:14 pm

Yes Rob. I made it through high school. Then I went to college (or as they call it here, Cegep) and then I went to university and then I got my additional training and experience and then I got my license.

It’s nice to see you winking at your friends to ensure you get their approval though.

Nice.

llpoh
llpoh
June 13, 2016 11:19 pm

Dookie the ignorant tries to compare “college” in the US with “college” in Canada. College in the US is indeed equivalent to university. But not in Canada.

And Dookie now admits his bullshit about needing a 4 year university degree was bullshit, and so let the spin begin.

Rob – I quickly spotted Cegep for what it was – at best it might be similar to a community college in the States. But it sounds more like an extra year or two of high school.

But hey, repossessing and evicting and serving notices require some serious education, yessir. Nothing but the best and brightest can get those jobs, so Canada has to set the bar high, I tell you, for those jobs.

Dookie sure is proud of his education, yessir. Sociology with a bit of repossessing and heartless evicting tossed in. Now there is an education to be proud of.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 13, 2016 11:19 pm

LPOH, did you miss the part about mediating and being the only effective arm of the system of justice? Property doesn’t just get back to its legally rightful owner!!!

And yes, I’m a court bitch in that I respectfully defer to the courts orders.

However, before the court orders are executed, under the new codes I am dutifully bound to find a solution acceptable to both parties and am instructed to do so BY LAW. This is called mediation.

Fabulous – you didn’t get the part about the causality and frankly I’m shocked you missed that. Are you only and absolutely what people see?

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 13, 2016 11:19 pm

Fab

Good one! But better to not overload Dookie with too much information! He needs to be sharp rubber stamping those eviction notices tomorrow…

Dookie maintenant
Revenons a nos moutons..

Fabulous
Fabulous
June 13, 2016 11:20 pm

After high school, I went to Harvard university. We call it Harvard university.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 13, 2016 11:21 pm

LPOH equates his mis-understanding of the systems in another country with lies, and accuses the native of doing the lying…

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 13, 2016 11:21 pm

Rob goes back to his sheep. To do what is the question…

llpoh
llpoh
June 13, 2016 11:22 pm

Oooh, Dookie gets to mediate too, before he kicks them out onto the curb. Bet that really pisses him off, because he surely became a bailiff for the glory of evicting and repossessing.

Government drones are all the same – somebody has to do it, it is such a responsible job, etc. etc.

The stuff I flush after a good shit has more value than Dookie.

llpoh
llpoh
June 13, 2016 11:23 pm

Fab – I call Harvard the place folks go who could not get into Dartmouth.

Fabulous
Fabulous
June 13, 2016 11:24 pm

Yes, I understand causality. Islam does not approve of homosexuality. Don’t you have hockey game to go to?

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 13, 2016 11:24 pm

LPOH – “Formal” sometimes means “of formality” and not a tuxedo. I explained formal requirements above, but for those in need of remedial explanations…

“And Dookie now admits his bullshit about needing a 4 year university degree was bullshit, and so let the spin begin.”

You, sir, are guilty of spin by insisting only your interpretation of words are correct.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 13, 2016 11:26 pm

Fabulous – Most Republicans don’t approve of homosexuality either, remember? And yes, all Canadians have a hockey stick and a whore. All homosexuals are deviant predators too.

llpoh
llpoh
June 13, 2016 11:28 pm

BTW – We call Dartmouth a college.

Glad to see Dookie spent what, six or seven years getting the edumacation to be a bailiff! When lots of folks go straight in after an extra year or two of high school. Yep that sociology degree sure paid off for him. What a joke.

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 13, 2016 11:30 pm

I’m having fun dog piling you. Besides only Tards bring up CEGEP. Why well that is simple. All it is is Grade 12 with another year tacked on. It doesnt count for anything in regards a degree in my province. like I said whoopdee doo.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 13, 2016 11:30 pm

Oh yeah, Fabulous… Christianity doesn’t approve of homosexuality either. I guess that makes them all terrorists?

For some reason LPOH equates bailiffs with evictions and figures I work for the government somehow. No, I did when I worked for Investissement Québec as a special loans negotiator. And I kinda did when I worked for the largest bank in Canada as an underwriter and special loans liaison officer, but now I work independantly for a branch of justice which is actually independent, called the judiciary.

LPOH, did you pass civics?

Fabulous
Fabulous
June 13, 2016 11:31 pm

@llpoh

Oh I can see we are just not going to get along. Big green weenie. Unacceptable. I never even applied there.

llpoh
llpoh
June 13, 2016 11:33 pm

Dookie said to be a bailiff required a degree, which is a lie.

It took Dookie years and years of study to get a job where the average salary is US$35k per year.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

But hey, he gets to evict and repossess. Bwahahahahahahaha!

llpoh
llpoh
June 13, 2016 11:35 pm

Fab – I love Hahvad folks. I mean, they never put up a fight when we came down out of the hills and took their womenfolk away. They were oh so accomodating.

VegasBob
VegasBob
June 13, 2016 11:36 pm

Here’s a lesson about the reality of human existence for poor Doug. It probably contradicts a lot of the ‘feel good’ political tripe that passes for ‘intelligent’ thought in today’s world, including the garbage spouted by Barack Obama and Hitlery Clinton.

People have made war on each other for centuries. Sometimes it’s due to competition for scarce resources; other times it’s due to ethnic rivalries. It doesn’t really matter why.

What matters is this: there is nothing to be gained by trying to play nicey-nice with those who want to kill you. Either you develop an immediate willingness to kill them first if necessary, or they will wind up dancing on your grave after they have killed you. Like it or not, and I don’t like it, that is the way of the world.

Millions of Jews, Slavs, Poles, and other ethnic groups learned this lesson far too late during the 1930s and 1940s.

When you are wearing an orange jumpsuit with your hands tied behind your back waiting for your execution to chop off your head, it will be far too late to say ‘I made a mistake trying to negotiate with these people.’

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
June 13, 2016 11:37 pm

Doug got his degree in Canada and says it’s reputable. Sort of like saying you got married in a brothel to a whore because that’s where all the best women are.

Canadians…. morons in toques with shitty beer….. 🙂

Fabulous
Fabulous
June 13, 2016 11:38 pm

@Doug who isn’t very smart

The gunman was Muslim. I didn’t catch the name of the Christian shooter. Because there wasn’t one. I can safely say without even fact checking, that no Christian has ever walked into a gay nightclub and shot fifty people.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 13, 2016 11:39 pm

Rob: Yep, that’s why we in Quebec despise the rest of Canada and especially two small specks in the ocean called Nova Scotia The sun truly revolves around two tiny islands that only export beer, tires and seafood. And not that much beer (it’s lousy.)

A billion in total exports and a handful of universities? Surely the center of the world!

Oh, and they talk funny.

Newfoundland has you beat! Even P.E.I. hasn’t the identity crisis you New Scotland folks have.

And quit repeating your interpretation of what the Cegep system is all about, it doesn’t make it any truer, nor does it affect my reasoned argument.

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 13, 2016 11:39 pm

Fuck Dookie most of the folks I know dont care about what Fab gets up to. I know I dont. Sure there are some religious nutjobs but seeing as you wont take Omar on your team I dont have to claim those fukwads either for mine.

Unlike SJW’s I have a live and let live attitude. I dont claim moral high ground like you have been since start of this thread. Just want to be left alone to live my life as I see fit. If I decide I need a gun then I’ll get one just like you. What irony in that. Seeing as you likely carry a gun for work. I suppose what is good for the goose is good for the gander…

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 13, 2016 11:41 pm

Atta boy get to the insults you Pepper.

Fabulous
Fabulous
June 13, 2016 11:41 pm

@llpoh

We let you hill people take the women folk because we are all gay. Snicker.

llpoh
llpoh
June 13, 2016 11:43 pm

For Fab:

A Dartmouth man and a Harvard man went to the men’s room. Dartmouth guy finished and headed back out. Harvard guy calls out: “At Hahvahd we wash our hands after we urinate!” Dartmouth man replies “At Dartmouth we don’t piss on our hands”.

Cdubbya
Cdubbya
June 13, 2016 11:45 pm

Doug,
You claim to be well educated and by association possessing a better than average intelligence but you are willing to waste time trying to reason with the irrational.

You hit the nail on the head with:
“But I am met with hostility and invective for being different, denigration performed in harmony and unison by this platform’s old-timers.
They are playing for each others amusement only (it seems to me.) There is cowardice in them all for needing the approval of their ‘peers’.”

The inmates of this site are committed to group-think and react like a swarm of angry bees to anyone who questions their mostly uninformed scapegoating, aided and abetted by his exalted highness Lord Admin.
Sad really as most are on the right path, they know the system is corrupt and passionately strive for improvement but are too easily led astray by attributing blame to other groups (who are usually worse off than they are). To cap it all off they end up buying in to a narcissistic clown to lead them back to the promised land (and yes, HC is arguably worse).

Still, it’s a fascinating window in to the mindset of a growing segment of North American society, and sometimes it’s just fun shooting fish in a barrel.

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 13, 2016 11:46 pm

Talk funny you guys cant even speak french and you’re making fun of us.

llpoh
llpoh
June 13, 2016 11:46 pm

Harvard men are gay?!!!!

All these years I thought they were just pussies. I am glad to hear they have good reason to act they way they do. I will cut them some slack from now on.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 13, 2016 11:47 pm

LPOH said a degree isn’t required to become a bailiff but can’t prove it, so he repeats it a lot.

I even told him who to contact for more accurate information (Chambre des Huissiers de Justice du Québec.)

honoraires

Look up the equivalency chart. It will show you what is required today for a person NOT coming out of law school.

And regarding remuneration, I don’t see how two jobs that have barely anything in common can be compared in salary? For example, a “notary public” isn’t the same as a “notary” in Quebec. The former requires nothing in most states, the latter requires both a law degree and a masters level degree in notarial law…

A bailliff (de justice) in Quebec is individually licensed and is therefore a contractor, no statistics are available because of that fact. It’s like trying to figure-out what a plumber makes or a dentist.

And anyways, what the hell does that matter?

CA
CA
June 13, 2016 11:49 pm

You guys shouldn’t pick on Dickless so much. It’s not totally his fault. The dumbfuck is confused cuz he’s french. We should’ve let those faggots separate years ago. Fucking radical french fuckers that they are.

llpoh
llpoh
June 13, 2016 11:50 pm

Rob – I am sure glad you are around these parts. You are the exception that proves the rule that Canadians are morons. It must get frustrating for you.

Fabulous
Fabulous
June 13, 2016 11:58 pm

No republicans or Christians shot anyone at the nightclub. However their hate distaste or whatnot motivates them, it didn’t motivate them to mass murder Saturday night. However, a Muslim man born of Afghan parents whose father supports a group that kills queers, motivated by his hate , fueled by his religious faith, whose imam was connected to terrorists, in fact killed a whole bunch of happy dancers in a thriving nightclub Saturday night. No more, ” but they hate you too” arguments. That’s what’s known as a straw man argument. It has no merit.
Are we stereotyped as. Predators? I never heard that. Deviants, I know a few.

You may lead a horse to water. You know the rest. I’m going to bed.

llpoh
llpoh
June 14, 2016 12:01 am

Dookie – still just a CEGEPs. Glorified high school work at best.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
June 14, 2016 12:04 am

Goodnight Fabio, goodnight LLPOH, goodnight Rob, goodnight John Boy…

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
June 14, 2016 12:04 am

cheers Lloph

It does help to drink. Thank god I cant but Molson here! You cant really count people from Quebec. Likely better anyways. They have been threatening to leave since the Quiet Revolution. Most down this way just want them to go. They even had a couple of Referendums. After the last one Parliment had to pass a law because Parizeau wrote such a convoluted fucked up declaration of indepedence that even if they had won we would have had to spend 20 years trying to figure out what they voted for. It was a dickless paper tiger but I suspect Dookie no doubt would have approved.

Fabulous
Fabulous
June 14, 2016 12:06 am

@llpoh

You are a funny man. I like you after all.

@Doug

I make roughly 100 times your salary . My partner makes more. Enjoy your sociology degree. We are flying down on our jet tomorrow to pay our respects. Don’t bailiff to hard. Take the soup advice, it probably works. Nite nite.

Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 12:25 am

Fabulous, when you need me I’ll be there. I’m bound by my code of ethics of the profession.

Just don’t try administering justice by yourself, OK? You may be rich, but you’re not trained nor a professional. You also aren’t bullet-proof.

Oh and just for shits and giggles, how much do you make 100 times more than?

PS, I’ve never been shot by a Muslim in a gay nightclub. Does that negate your argument at all?

Full Retard
Full Retard
June 14, 2016 12:27 am

Fabulous says: @llpoh You are a funny man. I like you after all.

I expected more from LLPOH but I love him just the same because as mean and bad-ass as he is, he has a soft side on his maternal grandma’s part of the family.

MB
MB
June 14, 2016 1:19 am

“We express our deepest sympathies to the victims, the wounded, and their families.”

Fair enough and to the point.

“Our nation stands together in solidarity with the members of Orlando’s LGBT Community.”

Huh?

“I refuse to be politically correct.”

No, you’re drinking the kool aid.
The first statement was adequate to the situation, but with the second, D went over the line.

And in the FWIW Dept. forget all the jazz about making America great again. The president’s job is to uphold and defend the constitution. As in make America free again. We’ll take care of the great.
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Doug Becker
Doug Becker
June 14, 2016 1:57 am

Note the editorialization of “The Donald’s” actual speech above – (can be seen here:

)

He did not say “he was born to Afghan parents”, he said he was born in some country called ‘Afghan’.

He forgot the word ‘not’ when he said that the incompetency will not change if he’s elected president” (1:40)

What he actually said about San Bernardino was that it was many many years ago, he corrected it to many are saying and the editor omitted the original error (2:36.)

This whole section was cleaned-up and freed from the tangled mess of run-on sentences it was in the original: “Immigration from Afghanistan into the United States has increased nearly five-fold in just one year. According to Pew Research, 99% of people in Afghanistan support oppressive Sharia Law. We admit many more from other countries in the region who share these same oppressive views. If we want to remain a free and open society, then we have to control our borders.” (7:03 on)

Entire rambling sections of his speech are omitted in the version above from about 8:04 on to about 8:40.

The entire slip about Clinton being in the know was omitted in the editorialized version above.

I doubt anyone will do as I did and read the text above while listening to the speech on Youtube, but it is recommended and enlightening. I don’t accuse the poster of anything, as he probably got the transcript from some other pro-Trump source anyway.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2016 3:14 am

Doug Becker says:
“I didn’t raise the issue of my education until I was accused of having none, by the way…”

Just because you went to skool and got a piece of paper that says so does not mean that you received an education. Just reading about ten or so of your comments in this thread bears that out. A real education will cause you to question everything….repeatedly….especially the shit you think you already know. Always assume you’re the dumbest person in the room. From that starting point you can only get wiser.

If you’re going to flap your cockholster on this site you need to be able to back up what you’re saying or get torn apart for failing to do so. The best advice for newbies is not to come here expecting to change the world but to lurk for awhile, get the lay of the land and then test the waters with your pinky toe. Instead, you come in here sounding like the nightly MSM newscast.

If you want to learn just shut the fuck up and listen. That is the first sign of an educated person.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2016 3:27 am

Fabulous says:
“I purchased a gun and am well trained at this point. I don’t need to be told twice. Didn’t come easy to me either. Realistically, no gay man would take a gun to a club. Major faux pas.”

I’ll bet you’d be their fucking hero if you’d have been armed in that FL club and dropped the shooter like a bad habit! Hell, you’d probably have to hand out knee pads and chapstick! If that wouldn’t be their reaction and they’d rather have a fucking psycho shooting at their unarmed, defenseless carcasses then you need to choose a better class of friends to hang with…….preferably some that don’t suffer from liberal mental illness. Gun free zones are killing fields!

and

“Imagine how a girl would react if you were taking her back to your place , gun in hand.”

Any girl worth a shit would be packing her own heat like my wife. If she were appalled that I had a gun then it’s good night…….where can I drop you off and…….have a nice life.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2016 3:30 am

Well shit! Turns out Doogie was lying about the education requirements for him to become a paid govt enforcer drone. Ya see Doogie…………ya gotta back your shit up if you insist on flapping that cockholster.