The leftists are going to be horrified by this, especially that pussy reporter that suffered PTSD and a bruised shoulder from firing one.
At some point, I expect child abuse charges will be fired for something like this and your kids taken away, so when you teach your kids don’t make a video record of it and keep it as secret as possible.
diogenes
June 15, 2016 9:49 am
The great thing is that the AR 15 does not have much of a kick at all.
kokoda
June 15, 2016 9:49 am
She’s jerking the trigger instead of a squeeze. Bad instruction.
hardscrabble farmer
June 15, 2016 10:02 am
He loaded the magazine with the selector switch on fire, BAD idea, especially with the bolt back.
SAFETY, SAFETY, SAFETY- especially when children are involved.
Francis Marion
June 15, 2016 10:13 am
My kids love the AR – it is a great training platform for them because there is all the bang and a fraction of the recoil of larger calibers. My son used it leading up to training on his hunting rifle. It helped him to avoid developing a flinch. Now he shoots his ’06 like a champ!
hardscrabble farmer
June 15, 2016 10:17 am
Never mentions breathing, either. Three deep breaths, slow squeeze at the end of the last exhale. Your body and heart rate are at the most stable in terms of motion.
Otherwise she handled herself like a pro.
Ed
June 15, 2016 10:20 am
Good platform for teaching shooting skills to young folks. I prefer the 7,62NATO round, myself, so my platform of choice as an experienced shooter is the M1A, but an AR is good for first time shooters.
The Ruger Ranch Rifle or mini-14 is good for teaching novice shooters to handle the Garand action for a later switch to an M1A or to a Ruger mini.30. I don’t own an AR because I never liked the standard round used by that platform, though there are variants which chamber my round of choice.
hardscrabble farmer
June 15, 2016 10:23 am
Ed, why do you dislike the .556?
Curious.
hardscrabble farmer
June 15, 2016 10:24 am
misplaced decimal. 5.56 or .223
Rise Up
June 15, 2016 11:00 am
The Ruger Mini-14 fires both .223 and 5.56. The Mini-30 is 7.62×39.
Unloaded
June 15, 2016 11:37 am
When I was a kid my older brother was in the Marine corps. Whenever he came home we would go out to the range where he first taught me “BRASS”:
B – Breathe
R – Relax / Release
A- Aim
S – Slack
S – Squeeze / Shoot
I still use this technique today.
BUCKHED
June 15, 2016 12:25 pm
To teach her the proper technique they should use one that was taught to me in the military. Place a penny on the barrel…when you can pull the trigger without the penny falling you’re doing it correctly .
I took my sister out to the farm to shoot the big bad AR a week ago . In the Republic of Leftifornia they can’t have them. She was dead on the money with it .She couldn’t get over how small it was and had almost no recoil .She had visions of a much deadlier looking firearm . She handled the 45 as well .
hardscrabble farmer
June 15, 2016 12:32 pm
I remember laying in the dirt at Ft. Benning for a week squeezing off dry fire round after dry fire round with that penny perched on the front sights. It is a great way to learn control.
Jimski
June 15, 2016 12:56 pm
For those of you unaware the AR platform is a reliable and affordable system for defense. Some people think it is not a man killer and in fact in carbine form with 62 grain ball it has noticable passthrough wounds with little damage.
To address this issue the military has a program called the squad marksmanship program. It has trained thousands in longer range engagement techniques and given them special AR platforms. These upgraded lethalality systems are available and i own one.
I have an upper for 62-55-40 grain crap ammo that shoots just about everything. Best is 55 grain ammo. I also have a 24 inch cyro heavy barrel that shoots the new 77 grain otm round at .7 moa. It has a 4-12 armored scope and i am proficeit to 600 meters and with a week of practice would take that out to 800 with no problem. The upper with optics was 860 bucks.
The 77 grain ammo has wound channels near identicle to 308 out to 800 meters. Yes it is a rainbow flight path but it is an acurate rainbow flight path. I am confidant in my choice of home defender arms.
But then again my nightstand gun is a 686 smith which means i am just an old babbling internet gun expert………
Suzanna
June 15, 2016 2:40 pm
good tips…the penny and the BRASS
tangouniform
June 15, 2016 5:09 pm
Appleseedusa.org
starfcker
June 15, 2016 5:50 pm
Watch her finger on shot 3.
Grog
June 15, 2016 6:07 pm
Whatever works I suppose.
I’ve never seen a ‘one-size-fits-all’ formula for shooting. I’m not talking about safety here. I’m talking about “driving tacks” as it’s called today, what we called bringing home meat with one shot.
That penny mentioned, does it need to be previous to the year 1981 or do zinc pennies work? (sarc. off). BRASS my ass, if that works for you then go for it. When I know it’s safe to pull the trigger, I have no idea of any “formula” or what I call “noise in my head”. If the picture don’t change and I know the shot is right, it’s done. I used to shoot scatter-gun skeet to hone for bird. Also, small bore for small game. Then, there has always been a need for varmint rifles.
Rare is a target fixed and nailed to a post. Time is never a factor, because you don’t take the shot if you know it is not right.
Mnemonic devices are great in some situations as are checklists for the same. Hell, who don’t make grocery lists?
My point is simple, if you use those techniques, good, good for the training, but are you going to practice every time you NEED to take a shot? Shouldn’t it be second nature, like breathing correctly while performing a type of swimming stroke? What are you going to do when confronted with a home invasion?
As an aside, the two best shots I have known, are both blind in one eye. It took me awhile to not close one myself, as it is when I use a monocular. Worse, I’m a “righty” and left eye dominant.
I ain’t trying to hijack the thread, I think the Dad is teaching his daughter something useful. Good for him.
Ed
June 15, 2016 6:57 pm
HSF, I don’t like to make that round my primary choice because, unless you can get military AP rounds, it’s only good for anti-personnel shooting. The Davidians would have slaughtered the F Troop raiders if they’d been firing ’06 or .308 instead of .223 milspec FMJ.
I have a ranch Rifle in .223 but it isn’t my primary defense weapon.
7.62 NATO turns cover into concealment and makes body armor about as effective as a T-shirt. You can take out an engine block with one round, or slap down a body armored thug by aiming center mass. A .223 doesn’t have that capability.
Scooby
June 15, 2016 7:30 pm
Hey Ed,F troop was out of ammo at the end of their raid on the Davidians.
The Davidians allowed f-troop to withdraw.My guess is they would have killed every one of them if they knew how it was going to turn out.
Gator
June 15, 2016 7:55 pm
This may be semantics, but a 223 or 556 most definitely will defeat soft body armor, Ed. It will go through the front of the body armor and all the way through the body wearing the armor too.
And also, please stop calling M855 ‘armor piercing’. It’s ‘steel penetrator’ … Also may seem like semantics but calling it armor piercing is what liberals do when trying to bad it. The military doesn’t consider it armor piercing.
Ed
June 15, 2016 8:40 pm
Yeah, Gator, the SP will punch through Kevlar, but regular FMJ needs to be at full speed to get through, and you can’t get military SP easily if you ain’t able to steal it.. Hey, I’ll call it “copkiller” ammo and make all the libtards happy. AFAIK, the military still classified steel core .30 cal as AP back when I bought milsurp ’06. That’s kinda my point about .556. It never had the penetration to be AP. I bought a lot of ’06 AP and the surplus seller called it AP, back in the 70s when ’06 had become surplus and was cheap to get.
Anyway, I would rather be able to fire an FMJ round that will hit an intruder’s ballistic plate and knock his ass flat. If the plate stops the round, you still have the intruder on the ground for a second shot. Anyway, personal preference is all I’m talkin about.
Y’all use whatever you like. If it ever comes to having to shoot Merkin cops and military, we’re pretty well fucked anyway.
Francis Marion
June 15, 2016 11:20 pm
@ Ed,
I ended up educating a nice lady at dinner party a few years ago with this analogy. The conversation turned to black guns and how terrible they were. I said I had one that it was harmless unless you pointed it at someone and pulled the trigger and besides it was less dangerous than my 7mm Rem Mag hunting rifle. She scoffed. I drew a picture of the difference between the cartridges on a piece of paper and explained very politely that if I hit her centre mass from 400 yards with the little one there was a good chance she might live. If I hit her from 400 yards centre mass with the other one it would pretty well tear her in half. I said “M’am your grandpa’s deer rifle can cause more damage to one person than my AR-15 can with a single round.”
She was a little taken aback and unsure what to say. She gave me an “o”. Truth is though – don’t think I’d like to get hit with any of them. I do business with a guy up here who got hit about point bland dead centre of a chest plate with a 7.62X39 in Afghanistan. He said it was like being hit with a sledge hammer. I have no desire to see if he is bullshitting me or not. Some things aren’t worth knowing through experience.
BUCKHED
June 16, 2016 6:06 am
Ed said : 7.62 NATO turns cover into concealment and makes body armor about as effective as a T-shirt.
Ed..you are wrong a vest will stop 7.62. I have a level 4 vest that will stop it .Watch for yourself.
Ed
June 16, 2016 7:54 am
That’s good, Buck. You go stand out behind my garage with your vest and give me two shots at you from 150yds. I’ll use regular FMJ and I promise to aim for the ballistic insert. 😉
Ed
June 16, 2016 8:13 am
“dead centre of a chest plate with a 7.62X39 in Afghanistan. He said it was like being hit with a sledge hammer. ”
Yep, Fran, and that was a hit from an AK. A hit on the plate from a 7.62×51 NATO or by the 7.62×54 Soviet would have knocked him out for a few seconds. If the NATO round missed the ballistic plate and hit anywhere else in his jacket, you might never have heard his story at all.
ZombieDawg
June 16, 2016 8:24 am
Damn those scary BLACK guns. Black is such an evil colour eh…
Hey – let’s make ’em all pink ! Friendly, cute and nice. Not remotely gay !
Add Hello Kitty logos too ! Yeah.
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Ed
June 16, 2016 8:25 am
Scooby, you’re right about that. Of course, if they had slaughtered the raiders, the FBI would have burned them out on the first day. The way I see it, there’s no way to win defending your home from the cops or feds. The best you can do is make them pay.
Nowadays, there probably wouldn’t be standoffs like Waco and Ruby Ridge. The prez who is in there now would send drones in first buck out of the chute. That’s just the kind of asshole he is.
Warms my heart. 🙂
The leftists are going to be horrified by this, especially that pussy reporter that suffered PTSD and a bruised shoulder from firing one.
At some point, I expect child abuse charges will be fired for something like this and your kids taken away, so when you teach your kids don’t make a video record of it and keep it as secret as possible.
The great thing is that the AR 15 does not have much of a kick at all.
She’s jerking the trigger instead of a squeeze. Bad instruction.
He loaded the magazine with the selector switch on fire, BAD idea, especially with the bolt back.
SAFETY, SAFETY, SAFETY- especially when children are involved.
My kids love the AR – it is a great training platform for them because there is all the bang and a fraction of the recoil of larger calibers. My son used it leading up to training on his hunting rifle. It helped him to avoid developing a flinch. Now he shoots his ’06 like a champ!
Never mentions breathing, either. Three deep breaths, slow squeeze at the end of the last exhale. Your body and heart rate are at the most stable in terms of motion.
Otherwise she handled herself like a pro.
Good platform for teaching shooting skills to young folks. I prefer the 7,62NATO round, myself, so my platform of choice as an experienced shooter is the M1A, but an AR is good for first time shooters.
The Ruger Ranch Rifle or mini-14 is good for teaching novice shooters to handle the Garand action for a later switch to an M1A or to a Ruger mini.30. I don’t own an AR because I never liked the standard round used by that platform, though there are variants which chamber my round of choice.
Ed, why do you dislike the .556?
Curious.
misplaced decimal. 5.56 or .223
The Ruger Mini-14 fires both .223 and 5.56. The Mini-30 is 7.62×39.
When I was a kid my older brother was in the Marine corps. Whenever he came home we would go out to the range where he first taught me “BRASS”:
B – Breathe
R – Relax / Release
A- Aim
S – Slack
S – Squeeze / Shoot
I still use this technique today.
To teach her the proper technique they should use one that was taught to me in the military. Place a penny on the barrel…when you can pull the trigger without the penny falling you’re doing it correctly .
I took my sister out to the farm to shoot the big bad AR a week ago . In the Republic of Leftifornia they can’t have them. She was dead on the money with it .She couldn’t get over how small it was and had almost no recoil .She had visions of a much deadlier looking firearm . She handled the 45 as well .
I remember laying in the dirt at Ft. Benning for a week squeezing off dry fire round after dry fire round with that penny perched on the front sights. It is a great way to learn control.
For those of you unaware the AR platform is a reliable and affordable system for defense. Some people think it is not a man killer and in fact in carbine form with 62 grain ball it has noticable passthrough wounds with little damage.
To address this issue the military has a program called the squad marksmanship program. It has trained thousands in longer range engagement techniques and given them special AR platforms. These upgraded lethalality systems are available and i own one.
I have an upper for 62-55-40 grain crap ammo that shoots just about everything. Best is 55 grain ammo. I also have a 24 inch cyro heavy barrel that shoots the new 77 grain otm round at .7 moa. It has a 4-12 armored scope and i am proficeit to 600 meters and with a week of practice would take that out to 800 with no problem. The upper with optics was 860 bucks.
The 77 grain ammo has wound channels near identicle to 308 out to 800 meters. Yes it is a rainbow flight path but it is an acurate rainbow flight path. I am confidant in my choice of home defender arms.
But then again my nightstand gun is a 686 smith which means i am just an old babbling internet gun expert………
good tips…the penny and the BRASS
Appleseedusa.org
Watch her finger on shot 3.
Whatever works I suppose.
I’ve never seen a ‘one-size-fits-all’ formula for shooting. I’m not talking about safety here. I’m talking about “driving tacks” as it’s called today, what we called bringing home meat with one shot.
That penny mentioned, does it need to be previous to the year 1981 or do zinc pennies work? (sarc. off). BRASS my ass, if that works for you then go for it. When I know it’s safe to pull the trigger, I have no idea of any “formula” or what I call “noise in my head”. If the picture don’t change and I know the shot is right, it’s done. I used to shoot scatter-gun skeet to hone for bird. Also, small bore for small game. Then, there has always been a need for varmint rifles.
Rare is a target fixed and nailed to a post. Time is never a factor, because you don’t take the shot if you know it is not right.
Mnemonic devices are great in some situations as are checklists for the same. Hell, who don’t make grocery lists?
My point is simple, if you use those techniques, good, good for the training, but are you going to practice every time you NEED to take a shot? Shouldn’t it be second nature, like breathing correctly while performing a type of swimming stroke? What are you going to do when confronted with a home invasion?
As an aside, the two best shots I have known, are both blind in one eye. It took me awhile to not close one myself, as it is when I use a monocular. Worse, I’m a “righty” and left eye dominant.
I ain’t trying to hijack the thread, I think the Dad is teaching his daughter something useful. Good for him.
HSF, I don’t like to make that round my primary choice because, unless you can get military AP rounds, it’s only good for anti-personnel shooting. The Davidians would have slaughtered the F Troop raiders if they’d been firing ’06 or .308 instead of .223 milspec FMJ.
I have a ranch Rifle in .223 but it isn’t my primary defense weapon.
7.62 NATO turns cover into concealment and makes body armor about as effective as a T-shirt. You can take out an engine block with one round, or slap down a body armored thug by aiming center mass. A .223 doesn’t have that capability.
Hey Ed,F troop was out of ammo at the end of their raid on the Davidians.
The Davidians allowed f-troop to withdraw.My guess is they would have killed every one of them if they knew how it was going to turn out.
This may be semantics, but a 223 or 556 most definitely will defeat soft body armor, Ed. It will go through the front of the body armor and all the way through the body wearing the armor too.
And also, please stop calling M855 ‘armor piercing’. It’s ‘steel penetrator’ … Also may seem like semantics but calling it armor piercing is what liberals do when trying to bad it. The military doesn’t consider it armor piercing.
Yeah, Gator, the SP will punch through Kevlar, but regular FMJ needs to be at full speed to get through, and you can’t get military SP easily if you ain’t able to steal it.. Hey, I’ll call it “copkiller” ammo and make all the libtards happy. AFAIK, the military still classified steel core .30 cal as AP back when I bought milsurp ’06. That’s kinda my point about .556. It never had the penetration to be AP. I bought a lot of ’06 AP and the surplus seller called it AP, back in the 70s when ’06 had become surplus and was cheap to get.
Anyway, I would rather be able to fire an FMJ round that will hit an intruder’s ballistic plate and knock his ass flat. If the plate stops the round, you still have the intruder on the ground for a second shot. Anyway, personal preference is all I’m talkin about.
Y’all use whatever you like. If it ever comes to having to shoot Merkin cops and military, we’re pretty well fucked anyway.
@ Ed,
I ended up educating a nice lady at dinner party a few years ago with this analogy. The conversation turned to black guns and how terrible they were. I said I had one that it was harmless unless you pointed it at someone and pulled the trigger and besides it was less dangerous than my 7mm Rem Mag hunting rifle. She scoffed. I drew a picture of the difference between the cartridges on a piece of paper and explained very politely that if I hit her centre mass from 400 yards with the little one there was a good chance she might live. If I hit her from 400 yards centre mass with the other one it would pretty well tear her in half. I said “M’am your grandpa’s deer rifle can cause more damage to one person than my AR-15 can with a single round.”
She was a little taken aback and unsure what to say. She gave me an “o”. Truth is though – don’t think I’d like to get hit with any of them. I do business with a guy up here who got hit about point bland dead centre of a chest plate with a 7.62X39 in Afghanistan. He said it was like being hit with a sledge hammer. I have no desire to see if he is bullshitting me or not. Some things aren’t worth knowing through experience.
Ed said : 7.62 NATO turns cover into concealment and makes body armor about as effective as a T-shirt.
Ed..you are wrong a vest will stop 7.62. I have a level 4 vest that will stop it .Watch for yourself.
That’s good, Buck. You go stand out behind my garage with your vest and give me two shots at you from 150yds. I’ll use regular FMJ and I promise to aim for the ballistic insert. 😉
“dead centre of a chest plate with a 7.62X39 in Afghanistan. He said it was like being hit with a sledge hammer. ”
Yep, Fran, and that was a hit from an AK. A hit on the plate from a 7.62×51 NATO or by the 7.62×54 Soviet would have knocked him out for a few seconds. If the NATO round missed the ballistic plate and hit anywhere else in his jacket, you might never have heard his story at all.
Damn those scary BLACK guns. Black is such an evil colour eh…
Hey – let’s make ’em all pink ! Friendly, cute and nice. Not remotely gay !
Add Hello Kitty logos too ! Yeah.
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Scooby, you’re right about that. Of course, if they had slaughtered the raiders, the FBI would have burned them out on the first day. The way I see it, there’s no way to win defending your home from the cops or feds. The best you can do is make them pay.
Nowadays, there probably wouldn’t be standoffs like Waco and Ruby Ridge. The prez who is in there now would send drones in first buck out of the chute. That’s just the kind of asshole he is.