Carlin’s theme sounds very compelling. It is also very similar to speeches I heard from Castro, Chavez, Evo Morales and even Peron, but , without the “humor”
Be careful my friends. There has always been social strata, cultural and economic.The real question to ask yourself, is who would YOU prefer to have the wealth? Those that produce it or those that distribute it. ?
You sound terribly angry, and your reaction is sad .
Name calling in an argument is , to piss you off more . stupid
Try for a minute to take a look at any historical class uprising , from Castro to Chavez, from Mao to Stalin and tell yourself that the “destruction” of existing society resulted in a better life for those you wish to champion.Every one of those uprisings resulted in tens of millions of deaths of citizens and the result was that an oppressive dictatorial regime Fucked the people even worse than the old regime.
Isn’t it ironic how you applaud tyranny and rule by a chosen few oligarchs on the day before our independence day.
You are such a narrow minded ideologue you forget that this country was created by rising up against an oppresive regime.
Stick your Mao and Stalin bullshit up your fucking ass.
You’re a sad excuse for an American and you surely don’t belong on this liberty minded site. Go back to your favorite Deep State supporting sites where you belong.
Dude, George Soros is there hob-nobbing with politicians from both parties. Why isn’t this fucker put under arrest? He’s directly responsible for funding rioting across this country. This is the kind of man you want to have unlimited wealth at his disposal? You’re fucking insane.
If I was in charge, I’d send Mitch Rapp over to George’s home one evening.
I definitely won’t be catching that movie either.
Anonymous
July 3, 2017 9:08 am
I believe my vote counts because I voted for Trump and he has already accomplished a lot of why I voted for him with more to come.
And it is certainly something very, very different than Hillary would be doing had I and many insignificant millions of others not elected Trump instead.
Oh yeah things with Hillary would have been sooooo much worse. We could have more gov’t health care being shoved up our asses. We could have had Goldman Sachs running the countries finances. We could be on the verge of war with Russia. We could have had the 1% gaining ever more advantage. We could have had gov’t ever expanding. We could have had an embarrassing asshole narcissist in the white house.
Hey pal, vote in one hand and shit in the other and tell me which one fills up faster.
Personally, when I read about their little bullshit one percenter’s party I had the same feeling I have when I hear about the white house correspondents dinner; where’s some goat fucking terrorist when you really could use one?
It amazes me. THEY grant us this ridiculous pittance called a vote and in exchange fuck us over at every turn, stealing our money and liberty, kill our kids in far away shitholes that THEY profit from and the average asswipe is grateful. I just don’t get it.
Zombies, Rider. They’re just zombies who are programmed to think their guy or gal cares about them. They run around yelling and screaming how their candidate will make things better. Then when the shouting is over and the Oligarchy party rears its ugly head, the Zombies will wring their hands, shake their heads and declare “never again will I be fooled.” Then 4 years later the same thing happens, and in the case of 2016 even more will vote. The wars never end. The Keynesians never are too far from the economic power center, or the printing press, the government continues to grow, more laws and statutes are put in effect to combat the blowback of Empiring, all at the cost of less liberty, higher taxes and a lower standard of living. The Zombies? They will continue to vote and think they’ve done a good deed.
Knowledge. Free thinking. Getting the info out that wars are bad. Keynesian economics are wrong. An oligarchy rules our country. Voting sure hasn’t worked, has It? Until people unite and say “no” to what is being done to them, it’s quite hopeless. A peaceful revolution by saying enough is enough. That’s my answer.
EDIIT UPDATE: For some reason I can not reply to razzle. So I will here. Razzle needs to look no further than United States history to see that my solution has worked not only once, but several times. If he reads about the Fugitive Slave Act he will see that by saying no the state of Wisconson dealt a severe blow to the Federal government by not returning runaway slaves. There are also cases of individual slaves not returned because entire northern towns decided to say no when told they had to release them to the Feds. There are also cases when a jury has said no to a law they have found unconstitutional by using their power of jury nullification. Subsequently the defendant was set free. Another example of a group of people saying no to a government happened in this Country in the late 18th century. Maybe razzle has heard about this event. In any case, razzle needs to calm down a bit and read some history. He will see, but probably never admit, that my way works.
— “Until people unite and say “no” to what is being done to them,”
Are they going to unite and vote no? What is the vehicle you are going to offer them to express this no through?
— “A peaceful revolution by saying enough is enough.”
Enough is enough.
…
Enough is ENOUGH!
…
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!
Nothing is happening. Now what?
— “That’s my answer.”
So you’re going to unseat the halls of power that have existed behind various masks and schemes for thousands of years… peacefully… by putting out information that is already out there and saying “No”.
Have you deciphered this complex mystery? Cause your confusion is casting doubt over your ability to comprehend your surroundings.
— “He will see, but probably never admit, that my way works.”
You list a couple of pittance events relative to the backdrop they rest upon, while balls deep in the most expansive oligarchy in recorded history, with the ability to track and monitor billions of people via automated systems as evidence of how your peaceful no against these people *works*?
Just stop voting you asshole. Stop feeding the monster. It does jack shit for us but gives them what parasites needs to feast on the host: Tolerance. Wake the fuck up.
— “It does jack shit for us but gives them cred. Wake the fuck up.”
You don’t actually have a counter-offer. Wake the fuck up.
Unreconstructed Southerner
July 3, 2017 9:23 am
Some, myself among them believe Carlin’s 4 minute bit about The Big Club to be his finest performance ever. It’s one thing to be clever and funny; another to rip the veil of hypocrisy from the government with such a deft and piercing monologue. Neither does he spare the people as per ….”will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday”…… The first time I watched it X number of years ago I literally stood there in awe. I’ve since listened to it dozens of times; And if what’s happening right now as the deep state attempts to rid themselves of Trump doesn’t convince you he was right, you haven’t been paying attention.
Essentially agree, with one big and important caveat. Carlyn offers no alternative. He makes fun of us, but admits he is part of it as well. Humor is reality with a funny twist. It is not a call to arms.
Social and economic stratification is and has always been a fact of life. Unless you are the “ruler” you will always be subservient in a social environment. Our choices are to decide where in the hierarchy we want and are qualified to be in.
What troubles me. is that ideology regarding “equality” always results in systems that are inevitably more oppressive.
If you join a club of any kind, you must decide where you want to fit.
At least we have a semblance of choice. Not so in Monarchy;s or ideologically communist systems.
Carlyn has found his place in the club. Making fun of all the members. Works for him.
“Social and economic stratification is and has always been a fact of life.”
I understand and am completely OK with that. I have no problem with people having more money than me, and you seem to be mistaking us for people who want to strip rich people of their wealth in some kind of violent redistribution scam, where we take all their money. I don’t mind rich people having a party or hanging out together in some kind of high society soiree. I do have a big problem with people pretending to have our interests at heart, denegrating each other all day every day for show, and then being best friends when they think no one is looking.
TC
July 3, 2017 9:30 am
The worlds of professional wrestling and national politics are indistinguishable. The actors involved get paid handsomely while you are left poorer than when you started, but if you’re very lucky you will have been entertained in the meantime.
General
July 3, 2017 9:58 am
George Carlin was a genius. Too bad he still isn’t around.
Instead of complaining, we need a way out from under the thumb of the oligarchs.
I have offered a solution on numerous occasions, it is really simple, UNITE. Then weaponize your spendable cash. Americans could for example target a particular corporation like Starbucks and boycott their products and brick and mortar locations until they were no more. Then move on to another until the Oligarchs start seeing their bottom lines suffer. Starve the beast of their cash.
With that said, I don’t see the retarded masses EVER sticking together on ANYTHING even unto their own destruction.
Gayle- Exactly, and if you look at all of the projects the elites have implemented over time, they have done everything possible to head off any possibility of the Sheep banning together to hurt them financially. Spreading into global markets, sending in hostile cultures with no connections to the indigenous population.
You personally couldn’t unite with people trying to unite as a last chance to work within the system via Trump.
Are the Starbucks employees going to Unite with you or fight you? How many companies will your united front take down and how many people will grow to hate your united front? What are you going to do if they start fighting back and unite to hurt your bottom line in return? Escalate to what level?
You’re talking big but during the closest opportunity to unite around here you’ve been one of the primary down talkers avoiding uniting. And I didn’t vote for the dude and was warning about him prior to the election as well.
You specifically proposing “UNITE” is as much of a riot as feminists shouting “EQUALITY!”
EDIT- Using the fact that I don’t rah-rah for corporate/banking owned shills does not prove anything. Maybe it even shows that I am serious about my convictions.
— “Maybe it even shows that I am serious about my convictions.”
No it shows you’re just posturing on the internet. You don’t have an actual idea to deal with it and have spent all your time shitting on the individuals who actually *did* unite in the face of intense criticism and mockery while having zero effect on the people above them.
You are acting like a liberal saying to let “Love Trump Hate”.
Your unite is a meaningless platitude because you don’t actually have any conviction to genuinely unite.
— “Or calling the American Revolution a “pittance event.””
I was waiting for you to latch on to that. Thank you.
Remember back in the long ago time of farfaraway land when asked what your plan was and you said: “A peaceful revolution by saying enough is enough. That’s my answer.”
Are you suggesting the American Revolution was a peaceful event?
Or is your plan in fact *not* a peaceful revolution and is in fact a call for war?
Razzle- We DON’T NEED NO STINKING LEADER. Just stop spending your money to enrich the criminal class and for goodness sake stay out of Wall Street shakedowns.
Does a leader tell you where to spend your money each week?
If you want to unite and have an effect, yes you do. Otherwise you’re just acting like a libtard saying “Let’s just all get along!”
— “Just stop spending your money to enrich the criminal class and for goodness sake stay out of Wall Street shakedowns. ”
Without going into my finances, I’m 99% certain you’d be jealous of the degree to which I’m not plugged into any of those things. HOWEVER… it’s not me you need to convince… it’s all the people shopping at Starbucks.
How are you going to get through to them? How are you going to UNITE! in a way that they will ever hear you? How are you going to sustain a message that they will not only hear but actually respond to? How are you going to continue to earn a living if enough Starbucks employees decide to target *your* employer?
— “Does a leader tell you where to spend your money each week?”
Yes… me.
I’m not the one tossing out pithy “UNITE!” flags. I’m also not the one who has been shitting on everyone who participated in the closest thing you’ve probably *actually* seen to uniting in a looong long time. I warned against Trump, acknowledge Hill was worse… and once he won I stopped shitting on those I’m on the same side with.
I like you being a counter-voice to Trumpism but to have you turn around and suggest “UNITE” is a gigantic joke.
You keep talking about politics/politicians which are of no use to us. Any person put up as a choice for national leadership is a shill and owned by the big three…banking/MIC/corporations. You can vote till hell freezes over and you will only get another shit sandwich to munch on for 4-8 years.
Hoping someday you and others will understand my point, stop supporting the criminal class. Keep your money close, buy only the essentials local if possible. If the sheep stopped buying at drive thru outlets for example, soon these corporations would be in a hurt locker and INSTINCTIVELY the weakest and closest to death would be the major target of us all if we really wanted to prove a point. That doesn’t have diddly shit to do with politicians you fukkin maroon.
— “You can vote till hell freezes over and you will only get another shit sandwich to munch on for 4-8 years.”
I don’t entirely disagree. Remember, I was asking about your call to UNITE! and checking to see if it was just feel good nonsense or you had an actual idea.
— “Stop acting like a fuktard.”
Stop acting like a libtard wishing for fantasy while shitting on people not manifesting your fantasy the way you think they should.
— “If the sheep stopped buying at drive thru outlet for example…”
Cool. What’s your plan? You got a few billion to convince.
— “That doesn’t have diddly shit to do with politicians you fukkin maroon.”
What do you think you’d be called if you (or someone else) actually managed to UNITE! the people under a common cause to not support the corporations over there and instead support the companies down here… which by the way if it worked those companies would become HUGE and insanely wealthy and powerful.
Ratdawg- I am not talking about politics, read to comprehend.
You and razzy can go blow each other, I think you understand what point I am making about how we spend our money. You are just piling on to be an ass. This is why there is no hope for us, you all have the mindset that criminal politicians are the only ones with power. There is HUGE POWER in how and where we spend our money. WE HAVE POWER but we fail to use it.
Yes… and when you are asked how you plan to get people to USE that power… nothing.
“Can’t we all just get along?” “Can’t we all just not spend money at Starbucks?”
You’re engaging in magical thinking… refusing to actually consider how to go about converting your wish into reality… and blaming those who actually ask you how you plan to do it for your failure to manifest it into reality.
Guess what a group of people UNITE!d under your banner would look like if they were hugely successful? A government and corporations exerting their influence on people around them. Picking winners and losers based on their UNITE!d interests.
There is a very important role in being the person who flings shit on people *actually* doing something with the imperfect tools available to them… you shouldn’t venture outside of your talent.
UNITE! is not in your skillset because you don’t have the stomach to face what it would actually require and what you would become if you actually succeeded.
Come to think of it Ratty, I never see anything worthwhile that you post. You just typically let out a grunt every once in a while to approve the status quo group think or correct someone’s spelling mistake. Honestly you have paid shill written all over you.
Razzle- Again you are a complete tard, Ratty is what EC and I call Rdawg aka (Ratdawg) that comment was meant for him.
Secondly, back in the Kaaaboom thread, you were new and we all thought you were female. That was years ago and I have always thought of you as part of the team for the truthers. Today you are just a ball buster who can’t see past worthless politics.
Hah. You stewed on his comment for 20 minutes after your first reply to him and then came back to whine some more? Impressive job Rdawg.
— “…you were new”
Except not.
— “…and we all thought you were female.”
That thirsty are ya?
— “That was years ago and I have always thought of you as part of the team for the truthers. Today you are just a ball buster who can’t see past worthless politics.”
You should consider the possibility you are projecting.
You’ve become a one trick pony. I doubt you will, but it’s easy to do a search for my posts vs your posts this year and see which of us flipped the fuck out and can’t get past a certain something.
I’ve made my posts about how Trump is going to convert a bunch of anti-state folks into pro-state. The point is long past to worry about that and you’ve got to work with the problem actually in front of you. You’re not going to get rid of the state without going to overt war. That’s a fact. You’re not going to actually get enough normies to starve the corporations… and any companies that take their place will eventually begin acting the same anyways.
So while I may have sympathies for your intentions, your intentions aren’t just pointless, they have no teeth, and most importantly, no plan. You’re not going to actually organize anything and you’re going to reject anyone who actually *does* because it’s not going to live up to your imaginary idea of how it should be.
The American Revolution started as a peaceful event, didn’t it? it started with people saying enough is enough. That’s what I am calling for. To start. We haven’t even gotten that far yet and you are already talking about a shooting war. As for suggesting you wrote that the American Revolution was a “pittance event” to catch me in a “gotcha moment”… .Yeah right! Good try, but not biting on that nonsense. You wrote it and you are now backpedaling on it. It was a silly thing to say and you know it. In fact, you didn’t think I would catch it. In fact, you weren’t thinking when you wrote it.
Look razzle, sparring with you is getting boring. I was able to win our debate with my first rebuttal. I listed examples how my way has worked in the past. You resort to strawman arguments and ad hominem attacks to try to counter. It didn’t work. That kind of debating never does. I usually don’t waste my time debating with people like you and I have given you more time than you deserve. Therefore, I refuse to engage any longer with you. I really wish you were a better foe.
— “Look razzle, sparring with you is getting boring. I was able to win our debate with my first rebuttal.”
I haven’t seen someone so shamelessly resort to Danth’s Law in a loooong time. Congrats.
— “…ad hominem attacks…”
Show me where I committed an ad hominem attack on you. It has to be somewhere after you blanket called many people here zombies and I asked you matter of fact what your plan was.
— “I really wish you were a better foe.”
I’ll continue in a reply above in the actual place this discussion was happening. You seem to be struggling with the forum software.
Sorry, but that article sounds to me more like envy than anything else.
Sounds like the author was pissed because he wasn’t invited.
Rojam
July 3, 2017 10:31 am
Lol. Of course your vote doesn’t count. Ask Ron Paul about votes at the 2012 convention. Just because your puppet may win doesn’t mean your particular vote meant anything. Except make you think your vote mattered. Your vote only matters if there’s a tie. There’s never been a tie. If voting mattered then Al Gore would have won in 2000. Talk about voting fraud! How naive can anyone possibly be to think it was not more than just a coincidence that Boy George won the state that his brother was the governor of! Look at the voting fraud that occurred for Obama where 100% of the votes in entire cities went to him. Look at the massive voting fraud that happened in the recent presidential election. They actually stopped counting in Detroit because of massive fraud. That’s why Michigan took so long to declare a winner. The only reason Hilary lost is because it’s harder to manipulate the electoral college than it is the popular vote. (BTW, If Trump would have won the popular vote and lost the electoral vote there would be just as much whining as the Hilary voters are now doing). Thank goodness for the electoral college or the entire country would be ruled by the votes of 2 or 3 states. Which only prooves that even when voting matters on a massive scale, it still doesn’t matter!
The one example where your vote can matter is in the jury box. Your one vote can mean a hung jury. It could also mean guilt or innocence, if you change your mind. However, to think your vote matters in the voting booth, especially in a presidential election, is laughable.
Years ago (1983 actually) in my senior year of high school, they put up all these posters around school urging kids to register to vote. One said something to the effect that some race for the U.S. senate somewhere in the midwest in the late 1800’s had come down to just one vote.
My buddies made up posters that, at a glance, looked exactly like these posters urging kids to register to vote, same colors, same lettering etc. Only these new posters noted that the plurality in the last presidential election was however many million votes it was and told kids that their vote obviously didn’t matter. Why bother? The fakes stayed up for a couple weeks before any teachers or staff noticed that the first set had been replaced.
BB
July 3, 2017 10:56 am
As one who moves in and out of both circles .That be little people and big people.I can tell Pony is little people .He was born little ,he lives little and he will die little.As far as big people go we don’t care what you little people do as long as you stay away from us.We try to stay away from you little White people like you try to stay away from black people Understand ??? This is how the universe works.Now bug off.
unit472
July 3, 2017 11:04 am
How in the hell did Chris Ruddy get an invite? On the bright side no Clinton’s or any of their crowd. They are no longer ‘A’ list people. Ditto Obama and his ‘family’ unless they came as servants.
Doesn’t auger well for Obama’s Presidential Library if he is out with the ‘in crowd’. His library may end up in a basement at the University of Chicago if the big money no longer wants to be associated with him.
Diogenes
July 3, 2017 11:38 am
Looks like a lot of Jooos were in attendance. Who would have thunk it.
Yours in Frigg,
Diogenes
BL
July 3, 2017 11:49 am
Mr and Mrs Jared 666Kushner have ALWAYS been ultra liberal Democrats. Jared 666 is a mafia zionist prince who’s every action is at the direction of BiBi. They were interestingly, committed Demo party supporters with their actions and money (lots of money) up until a little over a year and a half ago when they were being introduced to the idiot voters (who NEVER research these people). Trump was a Democrat up until 2008, then a Republican (but still contributed heavily to Demos like Schumer).
The maroons who down the truthful statement above must be those who never research these people.
Gayle
July 3, 2017 11:53 am
How blessed I am that I didn’t have to go to Lally’s party and hang out with all those creepy people. But now I have an urge to fry up some chicken.
Anon
July 3, 2017 12:05 pm
Votes only matter in so far as there is some enforcement mechanism behind it. I propose that when the Fed Reserve was created, as well as the income tax, that is the moment OUR vote started to dilute. After 2008 – 09, our vote means virtually nothing.
Politicians will always go where the money / resources are, and their agenda will follow. What resources / money does the average American have? Nothing. Cut off the Federal Reserve from buying US government treasuries, and taxpayers / producers of real wealth immediately become a lot more important. I say a “vote” only counts when our labor, resources, and thus money are worth something. Right now the Fed says our money, therefore our “vote” is worth about .75 of a percent. In Europe, their vote is worth -.25. At least we have more say than the poor EU citizens….
Ottomatik
July 3, 2017 7:14 pm
I have always been fond of the Carlin skit, Admin so graciously provided, thanks, Carlin may have done more to red pill me and many others, than anyone.
That said, freedom and liberty yet live, battered and diminished, yes, but ALIVE, all the same. In fact, the BIG CLUB has, is, and will always, batter and try to diminish individual liberty.
So there is a flip side to their BIG CLUB, in my experience, there are multitudes of small clubs, they are not a part of. We enjoy this one right here, for example, The Burning Platform. What would happen to any of the aforementioned attendees here? Or….drinking in the clubhouse of a motorcycle gang?
It strikes me as possible that the real fear of the BIG CLUB is in fact, the small club. In this age of exponential technological advancement, the possibility of power forming in the small clubs or individual level is all to real.
As the inexorable silence approaches, make some noise, the louder the better, in the traditions of those that have come before us, on the most auspicious day in the history of liberty.
Hollow man
July 4, 2017 6:59 am
It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. Nope and I am grateful. The despicable assholes.
Carlin’s theme sounds very compelling. It is also very similar to speeches I heard from Castro, Chavez, Evo Morales and even Peron, but , without the “humor”
Be careful my friends. There has always been social strata, cultural and economic.The real question to ask yourself, is who would YOU prefer to have the wealth? Those that produce it or those that distribute it. ?
Looks like we have some oligarch fans dropping in and shitting on the site.
Let’s enjoy our servitude and bow down to our Deep State controllers who know what’s best for us.
It’s scumbags like you that will keep me plugging away at this site until the fuckers you support shut me down.
You sound terribly angry, and your reaction is sad .
Name calling in an argument is , to piss you off more . stupid
Try for a minute to take a look at any historical class uprising , from Castro to Chavez, from Mao to Stalin and tell yourself that the “destruction” of existing society resulted in a better life for those you wish to champion.Every one of those uprisings resulted in tens of millions of deaths of citizens and the result was that an oppressive dictatorial regime Fucked the people even worse than the old regime.
Terribly angry? I’m not seeing it. Enjoy dramatic overstatement much?
Not a big fan of the Constitution, huh?
Isn’t it ironic how you applaud tyranny and rule by a chosen few oligarchs on the day before our independence day.
You are such a narrow minded ideologue you forget that this country was created by rising up against an oppresive regime.
Stick your Mao and Stalin bullshit up your fucking ass.
You’re a sad excuse for an American and you surely don’t belong on this liberty minded site. Go back to your favorite Deep State supporting sites where you belong.
Dude, George Soros is there hob-nobbing with politicians from both parties. Why isn’t this fucker put under arrest? He’s directly responsible for funding rioting across this country. This is the kind of man you want to have unlimited wealth at his disposal? You’re fucking insane.
If I was in charge, I’d send Mitch Rapp over to George’s home one evening.
I definitely won’t be catching that movie either.
I believe my vote counts because I voted for Trump and he has already accomplished a lot of why I voted for him with more to come.
And it is certainly something very, very different than Hillary would be doing had I and many insignificant millions of others not elected Trump instead.
Oh yeah things with Hillary would have been sooooo much worse. We could have more gov’t health care being shoved up our asses. We could have had Goldman Sachs running the countries finances. We could be on the verge of war with Russia. We could have had the 1% gaining ever more advantage. We could have had gov’t ever expanding. We could have had an embarrassing asshole narcissist in the white house.
Hey pal, vote in one hand and shit in the other and tell me which one fills up faster.
Personally, when I read about their little bullshit one percenter’s party I had the same feeling I have when I hear about the white house correspondents dinner; where’s some goat fucking terrorist when you really could use one?
It’s useless, Rider. Some people will just never get it.
It amazes me. THEY grant us this ridiculous pittance called a vote and in exchange fuck us over at every turn, stealing our money and liberty, kill our kids in far away shitholes that THEY profit from and the average asswipe is grateful. I just don’t get it.
Zombies, Rider. They’re just zombies who are programmed to think their guy or gal cares about them. They run around yelling and screaming how their candidate will make things better. Then when the shouting is over and the Oligarchy party rears its ugly head, the Zombies will wring their hands, shake their heads and declare “never again will I be fooled.” Then 4 years later the same thing happens, and in the case of 2016 even more will vote. The wars never end. The Keynesians never are too far from the economic power center, or the printing press, the government continues to grow, more laws and statutes are put in effect to combat the blowback of Empiring, all at the cost of less liberty, higher taxes and a lower standard of living. The Zombies? They will continue to vote and think they’ve done a good deed.
Out of curiosity… what’s your plan?
Knowledge. Free thinking. Getting the info out that wars are bad. Keynesian economics are wrong. An oligarchy rules our country. Voting sure hasn’t worked, has It? Until people unite and say “no” to what is being done to them, it’s quite hopeless. A peaceful revolution by saying enough is enough. That’s my answer.
EDIIT UPDATE: For some reason I can not reply to razzle. So I will here. Razzle needs to look no further than United States history to see that my solution has worked not only once, but several times. If he reads about the Fugitive Slave Act he will see that by saying no the state of Wisconson dealt a severe blow to the Federal government by not returning runaway slaves. There are also cases of individual slaves not returned because entire northern towns decided to say no when told they had to release them to the Feds. There are also cases when a jury has said no to a law they have found unconstitutional by using their power of jury nullification. Subsequently the defendant was set free. Another example of a group of people saying no to a government happened in this Country in the late 18th century. Maybe razzle has heard about this event. In any case, razzle needs to calm down a bit and read some history. He will see, but probably never admit, that my way works.
— “Until people unite and say “no” to what is being done to them,”
Are they going to unite and vote no? What is the vehicle you are going to offer them to express this no through?
— “A peaceful revolution by saying enough is enough.”
Enough is enough.
…
Enough is ENOUGH!
…
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!
Nothing is happening. Now what?
— “That’s my answer.”
So you’re going to unseat the halls of power that have existed behind various masks and schemes for thousands of years… peacefully… by putting out information that is already out there and saying “No”.
— “For some reason I can not reply to razzle.”
Have you deciphered this complex mystery? Cause your confusion is casting doubt over your ability to comprehend your surroundings.
— “He will see, but probably never admit, that my way works.”
You list a couple of pittance events relative to the backdrop they rest upon, while balls deep in the most expansive oligarchy in recorded history, with the ability to track and monitor billions of people via automated systems as evidence of how your peaceful no against these people *works*?
Just stop voting you asshole. Stop feeding the monster. It does jack shit for us but gives them what parasites needs to feast on the host: Tolerance. Wake the fuck up.
— “Just stop voting you asshole.”
I didn’t vote asshole.
— “Stop feeding the monster.”
Empty your bank account otherwise you’re a poser.
— “It does jack shit for us but gives them cred. Wake the fuck up.”
You don’t actually have a counter-offer. Wake the fuck up.
Some, myself among them believe Carlin’s 4 minute bit about The Big Club to be his finest performance ever. It’s one thing to be clever and funny; another to rip the veil of hypocrisy from the government with such a deft and piercing monologue. Neither does he spare the people as per ….”will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday”…… The first time I watched it X number of years ago I literally stood there in awe. I’ve since listened to it dozens of times; And if what’s happening right now as the deep state attempts to rid themselves of Trump doesn’t convince you he was right, you haven’t been paying attention.
Essentially agree, with one big and important caveat. Carlyn offers no alternative. He makes fun of us, but admits he is part of it as well. Humor is reality with a funny twist. It is not a call to arms.
Social and economic stratification is and has always been a fact of life. Unless you are the “ruler” you will always be subservient in a social environment. Our choices are to decide where in the hierarchy we want and are qualified to be in.
What troubles me. is that ideology regarding “equality” always results in systems that are inevitably more oppressive.
If you join a club of any kind, you must decide where you want to fit.
At least we have a semblance of choice. Not so in Monarchy;s or ideologically communist systems.
Carlyn has found his place in the club. Making fun of all the members. Works for him.
Spell his fucking name right, asshole.
You don’t have any fucking idea what the term liberty means because you’ve got a neo-con pea brain.
You’re the one posing false memes about equality and socialism. Carlin was and is 100% right. Ever heard of Edward Bernays? You sound like a big fan.
Free market capitalism where men and women can succeed or fail based upon their own intelligence, skills and hard work is all that we ask.
You, on the other hand, think there are a chosen few who know better and can control our society for our good.
You are either a blind fool or a mouthpiece for the oligarchy.
“Social and economic stratification is and has always been a fact of life.”
I understand and am completely OK with that. I have no problem with people having more money than me, and you seem to be mistaking us for people who want to strip rich people of their wealth in some kind of violent redistribution scam, where we take all their money. I don’t mind rich people having a party or hanging out together in some kind of high society soiree. I do have a big problem with people pretending to have our interests at heart, denegrating each other all day every day for show, and then being best friends when they think no one is looking.
The worlds of professional wrestling and national politics are indistinguishable. The actors involved get paid handsomely while you are left poorer than when you started, but if you’re very lucky you will have been entertained in the meantime.
George Carlin was a genius. Too bad he still isn’t around.
Instead of complaining, we need a way out from under the thumb of the oligarchs.
That’s what I am working on.
Let me know when you have an answer
Phonyexpress
I have offered a solution on numerous occasions, it is really simple, UNITE. Then weaponize your spendable cash. Americans could for example target a particular corporation like Starbucks and boycott their products and brick and mortar locations until they were no more. Then move on to another until the Oligarchs start seeing their bottom lines suffer. Starve the beast of their cash.
With that said, I don’t see the retarded masses EVER sticking together on ANYTHING even unto their own destruction.
BL
That’s what diversity accomplishes.
Gayle- Exactly, and if you look at all of the projects the elites have implemented over time, they have done everything possible to head off any possibility of the Sheep banning together to hurt them financially. Spreading into global markets, sending in hostile cultures with no connections to the indigenous population.
You personally couldn’t unite with people trying to unite as a last chance to work within the system via Trump.
Are the Starbucks employees going to Unite with you or fight you? How many companies will your united front take down and how many people will grow to hate your united front? What are you going to do if they start fighting back and unite to hurt your bottom line in return? Escalate to what level?
You’re talking big but during the closest opportunity to unite around here you’ve been one of the primary down talkers avoiding uniting. And I didn’t vote for the dude and was warning about him prior to the election as well.
You specifically proposing “UNITE” is as much of a riot as feminists shouting “EQUALITY!”
Razzle- You prove my point.
EDIT- Using the fact that I don’t rah-rah for corporate/banking owned shills does not prove anything. Maybe it even shows that I am serious about my convictions.
— “Maybe it even shows that I am serious about my convictions.”
No it shows you’re just posturing on the internet. You don’t have an actual idea to deal with it and have spent all your time shitting on the individuals who actually *did* unite in the face of intense criticism and mockery while having zero effect on the people above them.
You are acting like a liberal saying to let “Love Trump Hate”.
Your unite is a meaningless platitude because you don’t actually have any conviction to genuinely unite.
-You specifically proposing “UNITE” is as much of a riot as feminists shouting “EQUALITY!”
Or calling the American Revolution a “pittance event.”
— “Or calling the American Revolution a “pittance event.””
I was waiting for you to latch on to that. Thank you.
Remember back in the long ago time of farfaraway land when asked what your plan was and you said: “A peaceful revolution by saying enough is enough. That’s my answer.”
Are you suggesting the American Revolution was a peaceful event?
Or is your plan in fact *not* a peaceful revolution and is in fact a call for war?
— “I have offered a solution on numerous occasions, it is really simple, UNITE.”
Who do you have in mind as a leader.
Razzle- We DON’T NEED NO STINKING LEADER. Just stop spending your money to enrich the criminal class and for goodness sake stay out of Wall Street shakedowns.
Does a leader tell you where to spend your money each week?
— “Razzle- We DON’T NEED NO STINKING LEADER.”
If you want to unite and have an effect, yes you do. Otherwise you’re just acting like a libtard saying “Let’s just all get along!”
— “Just stop spending your money to enrich the criminal class and for goodness sake stay out of Wall Street shakedowns. ”
Without going into my finances, I’m 99% certain you’d be jealous of the degree to which I’m not plugged into any of those things. HOWEVER… it’s not me you need to convince… it’s all the people shopping at Starbucks.
How are you going to get through to them? How are you going to UNITE! in a way that they will ever hear you? How are you going to sustain a message that they will not only hear but actually respond to? How are you going to continue to earn a living if enough Starbucks employees decide to target *your* employer?
— “Does a leader tell you where to spend your money each week?”
Yes… me.
I’m not the one tossing out pithy “UNITE!” flags. I’m also not the one who has been shitting on everyone who participated in the closest thing you’ve probably *actually* seen to uniting in a looong long time. I warned against Trump, acknowledge Hill was worse… and once he won I stopped shitting on those I’m on the same side with.
I like you being a counter-voice to Trumpism but to have you turn around and suggest “UNITE” is a gigantic joke.
Implores us to unite.
Spends hours every day getting butthurt over every little disagreement, often lashing out with name-calling.
Fucking priceless.
Razzle- Stop acting like a fuktard.
You keep talking about politics/politicians which are of no use to us. Any person put up as a choice for national leadership is a shill and owned by the big three…banking/MIC/corporations. You can vote till hell freezes over and you will only get another shit sandwich to munch on for 4-8 years.
Hoping someday you and others will understand my point, stop supporting the criminal class. Keep your money close, buy only the essentials local if possible. If the sheep stopped buying at drive thru outlets for example, soon these corporations would be in a hurt locker and INSTINCTIVELY the weakest and closest to death would be the major target of us all if we really wanted to prove a point. That doesn’t have diddly shit to do with politicians you fukkin maroon.
— “You can vote till hell freezes over and you will only get another shit sandwich to munch on for 4-8 years.”
I don’t entirely disagree. Remember, I was asking about your call to UNITE! and checking to see if it was just feel good nonsense or you had an actual idea.
— “Stop acting like a fuktard.”
Stop acting like a libtard wishing for fantasy while shitting on people not manifesting your fantasy the way you think they should.
— “If the sheep stopped buying at drive thru outlet for example…”
Cool. What’s your plan? You got a few billion to convince.
— “That doesn’t have diddly shit to do with politicians you fukkin maroon.”
What do you think you’d be called if you (or someone else) actually managed to UNITE! the people under a common cause to not support the corporations over there and instead support the companies down here… which by the way if it worked those companies would become HUGE and insanely wealthy and powerful.
Ratdawg- I am not talking about politics, read to comprehend.
You and razzy can go blow each other, I think you understand what point I am making about how we spend our money. You are just piling on to be an ass. This is why there is no hope for us, you all have the mindset that criminal politicians are the only ones with power. There is HUGE POWER in how and where we spend our money. WE HAVE POWER but we fail to use it.
— “WE HAVE POWER but we fail to use it.”
Yes… and when you are asked how you plan to get people to USE that power… nothing.
“Can’t we all just get along?” “Can’t we all just not spend money at Starbucks?”
You’re engaging in magical thinking… refusing to actually consider how to go about converting your wish into reality… and blaming those who actually ask you how you plan to do it for your failure to manifest it into reality.
Guess what a group of people UNITE!d under your banner would look like if they were hugely successful? A government and corporations exerting their influence on people around them. Picking winners and losers based on their UNITE!d interests.
There is a very important role in being the person who flings shit on people *actually* doing something with the imperfect tools available to them… you shouldn’t venture outside of your talent.
UNITE! is not in your skillset because you don’t have the stomach to face what it would actually require and what you would become if you actually succeeded.
Come to think of it Ratty, I never see anything worthwhile that you post. You just typically let out a grunt every once in a while to approve the status quo group think or correct someone’s spelling mistake. Honestly you have paid shill written all over you.
— “Come to think of it Ratty, I never see anything worthwhile that you post.”
How fickle love be that blooms in the bowels of war.
— “Honestly you have paid shill written all over you.”
Why thank you! I do in fact pay my monthly donation to Admin’s shilling.
And B… I’m as devastated as WTC7 on a September afternoon. 🙁
How could you forget our most intimate of intimates?
Razzle- Again you are a complete tard, Ratty is what EC and I call Rdawg aka (Ratdawg) that comment was meant for him.
Secondly, back in the Kaaaboom thread, you were new and we all thought you were female. That was years ago and I have always thought of you as part of the team for the truthers. Today you are just a ball buster who can’t see past worthless politics.
— “…that comment was meant for him.”
Hah. You stewed on his comment for 20 minutes after your first reply to him and then came back to whine some more? Impressive job Rdawg.
— “…you were new”
Except not.
— “…and we all thought you were female.”
That thirsty are ya?
— “That was years ago and I have always thought of you as part of the team for the truthers. Today you are just a ball buster who can’t see past worthless politics.”
You should consider the possibility you are projecting.
You’ve become a one trick pony. I doubt you will, but it’s easy to do a search for my posts vs your posts this year and see which of us flipped the fuck out and can’t get past a certain something.
I’ve made my posts about how Trump is going to convert a bunch of anti-state folks into pro-state. The point is long past to worry about that and you’ve got to work with the problem actually in front of you. You’re not going to get rid of the state without going to overt war. That’s a fact. You’re not going to actually get enough normies to starve the corporations… and any companies that take their place will eventually begin acting the same anyways.
So while I may have sympathies for your intentions, your intentions aren’t just pointless, they have no teeth, and most importantly, no plan. You’re not going to actually organize anything and you’re going to reject anyone who actually *does* because it’s not going to live up to your imaginary idea of how it should be.
Serious question BL. Have you been drinking/other more than usual this year? I’ll believe you if you say no.
I finally decided to say no for good in January and haven’t had a drop since.
The American Revolution started as a peaceful event, didn’t it? it started with people saying enough is enough. That’s what I am calling for. To start. We haven’t even gotten that far yet and you are already talking about a shooting war. As for suggesting you wrote that the American Revolution was a “pittance event” to catch me in a “gotcha moment”… .Yeah right! Good try, but not biting on that nonsense. You wrote it and you are now backpedaling on it. It was a silly thing to say and you know it. In fact, you didn’t think I would catch it. In fact, you weren’t thinking when you wrote it.
Look razzle, sparring with you is getting boring. I was able to win our debate with my first rebuttal. I listed examples how my way has worked in the past. You resort to strawman arguments and ad hominem attacks to try to counter. It didn’t work. That kind of debating never does. I usually don’t waste my time debating with people like you and I have given you more time than you deserve. Therefore, I refuse to engage any longer with you. I really wish you were a better foe.
— “Look razzle, sparring with you is getting boring. I was able to win our debate with my first rebuttal.”
I haven’t seen someone so shamelessly resort to Danth’s Law in a loooong time. Congrats.
— “…ad hominem attacks…”
Show me where I committed an ad hominem attack on you. It has to be somewhere after you blanket called many people here zombies and I asked you matter of fact what your plan was.
— “I really wish you were a better foe.”
I’ll continue in a reply above in the actual place this discussion was happening. You seem to be struggling with the forum software.
Getting rid of Israel would be a good start.
Sorry, but that article sounds to me more like envy than anything else.
Sounds like the author was pissed because he wasn’t invited.
Lol. Of course your vote doesn’t count. Ask Ron Paul about votes at the 2012 convention. Just because your puppet may win doesn’t mean your particular vote meant anything. Except make you think your vote mattered. Your vote only matters if there’s a tie. There’s never been a tie. If voting mattered then Al Gore would have won in 2000. Talk about voting fraud! How naive can anyone possibly be to think it was not more than just a coincidence that Boy George won the state that his brother was the governor of! Look at the voting fraud that occurred for Obama where 100% of the votes in entire cities went to him. Look at the massive voting fraud that happened in the recent presidential election. They actually stopped counting in Detroit because of massive fraud. That’s why Michigan took so long to declare a winner. The only reason Hilary lost is because it’s harder to manipulate the electoral college than it is the popular vote. (BTW, If Trump would have won the popular vote and lost the electoral vote there would be just as much whining as the Hilary voters are now doing). Thank goodness for the electoral college or the entire country would be ruled by the votes of 2 or 3 states. Which only prooves that even when voting matters on a massive scale, it still doesn’t matter!
The one example where your vote can matter is in the jury box. Your one vote can mean a hung jury. It could also mean guilt or innocence, if you change your mind. However, to think your vote matters in the voting booth, especially in a presidential election, is laughable.
Years ago (1983 actually) in my senior year of high school, they put up all these posters around school urging kids to register to vote. One said something to the effect that some race for the U.S. senate somewhere in the midwest in the late 1800’s had come down to just one vote.
My buddies made up posters that, at a glance, looked exactly like these posters urging kids to register to vote, same colors, same lettering etc. Only these new posters noted that the plurality in the last presidential election was however many million votes it was and told kids that their vote obviously didn’t matter. Why bother? The fakes stayed up for a couple weeks before any teachers or staff noticed that the first set had been replaced.
As one who moves in and out of both circles .That be little people and big people.I can tell Pony is little people .He was born little ,he lives little and he will die little.As far as big people go we don’t care what you little people do as long as you stay away from us.We try to stay away from you little White people like you try to stay away from black people Understand ??? This is how the universe works.Now bug off.
How in the hell did Chris Ruddy get an invite? On the bright side no Clinton’s or any of their crowd. They are no longer ‘A’ list people. Ditto Obama and his ‘family’ unless they came as servants.
Doesn’t auger well for Obama’s Presidential Library if he is out with the ‘in crowd’. His library may end up in a basement at the University of Chicago if the big money no longer wants to be associated with him.
Looks like a lot of Jooos were in attendance. Who would have thunk it.
Yours in Frigg,
Diogenes
Mr and Mrs Jared 666Kushner have ALWAYS been ultra liberal Democrats. Jared 666 is a mafia zionist prince who’s every action is at the direction of BiBi. They were interestingly, committed Demo party supporters with their actions and money (lots of money) up until a little over a year and a half ago when they were being introduced to the idiot voters (who NEVER research these people). Trump was a Democrat up until 2008, then a Republican (but still contributed heavily to Demos like Schumer).
The maroons who down the truthful statement above must be those who never research these people.
How blessed I am that I didn’t have to go to Lally’s party and hang out with all those creepy people. But now I have an urge to fry up some chicken.
Votes only matter in so far as there is some enforcement mechanism behind it. I propose that when the Fed Reserve was created, as well as the income tax, that is the moment OUR vote started to dilute. After 2008 – 09, our vote means virtually nothing.
Politicians will always go where the money / resources are, and their agenda will follow. What resources / money does the average American have? Nothing. Cut off the Federal Reserve from buying US government treasuries, and taxpayers / producers of real wealth immediately become a lot more important. I say a “vote” only counts when our labor, resources, and thus money are worth something. Right now the Fed says our money, therefore our “vote” is worth about .75 of a percent. In Europe, their vote is worth -.25. At least we have more say than the poor EU citizens….
I have always been fond of the Carlin skit, Admin so graciously provided, thanks, Carlin may have done more to red pill me and many others, than anyone.
That said, freedom and liberty yet live, battered and diminished, yes, but ALIVE, all the same. In fact, the BIG CLUB has, is, and will always, batter and try to diminish individual liberty.
So there is a flip side to their BIG CLUB, in my experience, there are multitudes of small clubs, they are not a part of. We enjoy this one right here, for example, The Burning Platform. What would happen to any of the aforementioned attendees here? Or….drinking in the clubhouse of a motorcycle gang?
It strikes me as possible that the real fear of the BIG CLUB is in fact, the small club. In this age of exponential technological advancement, the possibility of power forming in the small clubs or individual level is all to real.
As the inexorable silence approaches, make some noise, the louder the better, in the traditions of those that have come before us, on the most auspicious day in the history of liberty.
It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. Nope and I am grateful. The despicable assholes.