How “Confident” are Intelligence Agencies that Russia Interfered with the Election?

Guest Post by Scott Adams

Remember when all seventeen intelligence agencies agreed that Russia interfered with our elections?

Turns out it was only four.

Do you know how you get four agencies to agree on something of this nature? It’s easy. One publishes an opinion and the other three loyal agencies assume it is credible, so they support it. Do they all do independent investigations?

I kinda doubt it.

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Based on my experience on this planet, probably one intelligence agency out of seventeen investigated and told the others they did a great job of it. Still, you can’t ignore even one intelligence agency that did an investigation and is totally positive Russia interfered with the election. That’s still credible information.

Wait, did I say “totally positive”? Here’s a quote from CIA Director Mike Pompeo from this past week: “I am confident that the Russians meddled in this election, as is the entire intelligence community.“

Is confident the same as totally positive? And are “the Russians” the same as Putin?

Personally, I use the word “confident” when I’m not 100% sure, when I think the evidence all points one way. Coincidentally, that is exactly what confirmation bias looks like too – all the signs point in the same direction. They just happen to be false signs. And it seems to me that a good non-Russian hacker could make a hack look like it came from anywhere.

A related thought is that real Russian government hackers wouldn’t have gotten caught. But that might underestimate our capacity to track this sort of thing.

But wait, if we can track this sort of thing and know who did it, using our secret methods, doesn’t that mean we are 100% positive? That’s different than being confident.

A few months ago, seventeen intelligence agencies knew for sure that the Russian government interfered in the election. Today, I’m guessing just one of them looked at the information in any detail. And we don’t know how well they can identify this sort of thing. They won’t tell us. For good reasons.

The intel agencies (or agency) didn’t convince the President of the United States that Russia interfered with the election, and the president would have access to all of the secret spy methods to convince himself they really know what they know.

It is entirely possible that our intelligence agencies know Russia interfered with our elections. But they packaged it exactly like a bunch of lying weasels who are simply hoping they are right. I hope that’s just bad brand management and nothing worse.

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art
art
July 24, 2017 6:39 pm

I am really tired of this non-story.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
July 24, 2017 7:24 pm

I and everyone should be 100% sure that AIPAC and Israel interfere with EVERY ELECTION (at the federal, state, and even local levels in some cases). Are those crickets I hear from the Mainstream Media? Thought so.

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
July 24, 2017 8:47 pm

Who does not believe Obamas bitches at CIA and NSA etc. made this shit up?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Overthecliff
July 25, 2017 11:22 am

Technically it’s a CIA operation. Mike Rogers’ NSA didn’t even really agree to the intelligence community’s “report”, specifying a low degree of confidence in its supposed findings. Basically it was Brennan lying (takfir) and Comey swearing to it. It’s not the first time the CIA has gotten rid of a troublesome president and won’t be the last. Overthrowing governments – it’s what the CIA does.

Hollow man
Hollow man
July 25, 2017 6:19 am

If we are so good at catching this crap then why is Hillary not in jail?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Hollow man
July 25, 2017 11:23 am

Why would the Deep State go after their own gal?

unit472
unit472
July 25, 2017 8:21 am

If by ‘interferred’ you mean does Russia ( and every other nation on earth) seek to influence American voters? You bet and they’d be crazy not to. Russia/USSR always has and went so far as to use front groups and put Soviet agents into our government agencies to achieve their objectives. China does the same as does Israel and Mexico. Why not?

Russia spends close to 10% of its limited GDP on defense mostly to have armed forces capable of taking on US/Nato forces in Central er, now Eastern Europe having lost their Warsaw Pact satellite states as well as Ukraine. If were a Russian general… well, I wouldn’t want to be so, being unable to build or field the kind of forces the US possesses, I would look for some other way to defend Russia and what could be cheaper and more effective than backing American candidates for national office who would be friendlier to Russian security concerns?

Just as Mexico needs to keep our border open to its surplus population Russia needs to keep American military spending to a level it can match. Unlike Mexico or Israel, Russia does not have millions of its citizens who can vote in and donate to American political campaigns so it uses propaganda, disinformation and, no doubt, files on our leading politicians with dirt they can leak should the need arise. Its how the world works.

Gay Veteran
Gay Veteran
  unit472
July 27, 2017 5:34 pm

“…If were a Russian general… well, I wouldn’t want to be so, being unable to build or field the kind of forces the US possesses….”

ROFLOL, we can’t even defeat a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan!

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 25, 2017 8:50 am

Russia didn’t “interfere” with our elections.

The majority of the people, other than Dem activists and the MSM, no longer believe it did.

Yet the beat goes on.

Tell it often enough and maybe the people will believe it.

Or at least get tired of Trump and turn against him so they don’t have to keep hearing about it.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
July 25, 2017 4:48 pm

This could be brought to a head with just a few keystrokes at the NSA, since they record EVERYTHING. But that will never happen because between the NSA and CIA is where the “deep state” is physically located. And they want this crap to continue because it serves “their” interests.