NASA Unveils Plan To Stop Yellowstone “Supervolcano” Eruption, There’s Just One Catch


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A NASA plan to stop the Yellowstone supervolcano from erupting, could actually cause it to blow… triggering a nuclear winter that would wipe out humanity.

As we have detailed recently, government officials have been closely monitoring the activity in the Yellowstone caldera.

However, as SHTFplan.com’s Mac Slavo details, scientists at NASA have now come up with an incredibly risky plan to save the United States from the super volcano.

A NASA scientist has spoken out about the true threat of super volcanoes and the risky methods that could be used to prevent a devastating eruption. Lying beneath the tranquil and beautiful settings of Yellowstone National Park in the US lies an enormous magma chamber, called a caldera. It’s responsible for the geysers and hot springs that define the area, but for scientists at NASA, it’s also one of the greatest natural threats to human civilization as we know it.

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Brian Wilcox, a former member of the NASA Advisory Council on Planetary Defense, shared a report on the natural hazard that hadn’t been seen outside of the agency until now. Following an article published by BBC about super volcanoes last month, a group of NASA researchers got in touch with the media to share a report previously unseen outside the space agency about the threat Yellowstone poses, and what they hypothesize could possibly be done about it.

“I was a member of the NASA Advisory Council on Planetary Defense which studied ways for NASA to defend the planet from asteroids and comets,” explains Brian Wilcox of Nasa’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) at the California Institute of Technology.  

“I came to the conclusion during that study that the supervolcano threat is substantially greater than the asteroid or comet threat.”

Yellowstone currently leaks about 60 to 70 percent of its heat into the atmosphere through stream water which seeps into the magma chamber through cracks, while the rest of the heat builds up as magma and dissolves into volatile gasses. The heat and pressure will reach the threshold, meaning an explosion is inevitable. When NASA scientists considered the fact that a super volcano’s eruption would plunge the earth into a volcanic winter, destroying most sources of food, starvation would then become a real possibility.  Food reserves would only last about 74 days, according to the UN, after an eruption of a super volcano, like that under Yellowstone.  And they have devised a risky plan that could end up blowing up in their faces.  Literally.

Wilcox hypothesized that if enough heat was removed, and the temperature of the super volcano dropped, it would never erupt. But he wants to see a 35% decrease in temperature, and how to achieve that, is incredibly risky. One possibility is to simply increase the amount of water in the supervolcano. As it turns to steam. the water would release the heat into the atmosphere, making global warming alarmists tremble.

“Building a big aqueduct uphill into a mountainous region would be both costly and difficult, and people don’t want their water spent that way,” Wilcox says. “People are desperate for water all over the world and so a major infrastructure project, where the only way the water is used is to cool down a supervolcano, would be very controversial.”

So, NASA came up with an alternative plan. They believe the most viable solution could be to drill up to 10km down into the super volcano and pump down water at high pressure. The circulating water would return at a temperature of around 350C (662F), thus slowly day by day extracting heat from the volcano. And while such a project would come at an estimated cost of around $3.46 billion, it comes with an enticing catch which could convince politicians (taxpayers) to make the investment.

“Yellowstone currently leaks around 6GW in heat,” Wilcox says. “Through drilling in this way, it could be used to create a geothermal plant, which generates electric power at extremely competitive prices of around $0.10/kWh. You would have to give the geothermal companies incentives to drill somewhat deeper and use hotter water than they usually would, but you would pay back your initial investment, and get electricity which can power the surrounding area for a period of potentially tens of thousands of years. And the long-term benefit is that you prevent a future supervolcano eruption which would devastate humanity.”

Of course, drilling into a super volcano comes with its own risks, like the eruption that scientists are desperate to prevent. Triggering an eruption by drilling would be disastrous.

“The most important thing with this is to do no harm,” Wilcox says.

“If you drill into the top of the magma chamber and try and cool it from there, this would be very risky. This could make the cap over the magma chamber more brittle and prone to fracture. And you might trigger the release of harmful volatile gases in the magma at the top of the chamber which would otherwise not be released.”

The cooling of Yellowstone in this manner would also take tens of thousands of years, but it is a plan that scientists at NASA are considering for every super volcano on earth.

“When people first considered the idea of defending the Earth from an asteroid impact, they reacted in a similar way to the supervolcano threat,” Wilcox says.

 

“People thought, ‘As puny as we are, how can humans possibly prevent an asteroid from hitting the Earth.’ Well, it turns out if you engineer something which pushes very slightly for a very long time, you can make the asteroid miss the Earth. So the problem turns out to be easier than people think. In both cases it requires the scientific community to invest brain power and you have to start early. But Yellowstone explodes roughly every 600,000 years, and it is about 600,000 years since it last exploded, which should cause us to sit up and take notice.

So what would happen?

 

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kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
August 20, 2017 8:16 am

Wasn’t this a SyFy movie?; if not, it should be.

Stucky
Stucky

Hey kokoda, what’s the story behind AZEK? Curious minds want to know.

kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
  Stucky
August 20, 2017 9:11 am

Stucky…long story , so while I’m waiting for the wet grass to dry so I can mow, I will write it out and post it below as a separate comment.

Stucky
Stucky

Great. I look forward to it

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Stucky
August 20, 2017 10:00 am

Maybe you should become “Stucky – Almost Killed By a Wendy’s Feces Burger Just Because of a Tiny Microaggression”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 20, 2017 8:19 am

Question,

If the earth is as old as we are told it is why is it still so hot inside?

Stucky
Stucky
  Anonymous
August 20, 2017 8:35 am

Awesome question! Deep!

Also, why is the SUN still so fucken hot?

I know! I know!! Maybe the earth and sun are only 6,000 years old! Hmm?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
August 20, 2017 8:55 am

I suppose you are suggesting there are thermonuclear processes going on inside the earth the same as the Sun?

Stucky
Stucky
  Anonymous
August 20, 2017 9:28 am

Nukes? No. Where did I mention nukes?

First of all, how would you even get a nuke close to the sun?? Wouldn’t the rocketship MELT??

You really need to think these things through.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
August 20, 2017 10:46 am

Apparently you are uneducated about the Sun.

It is a thermonuclear reaction of hydrogen that makes it big and hot, not nuclear bombs or something I didn’t even consider mentioning.

I ask again, is this the process you are attributing to the inner Earth that keeps it from cooling down? You did equate the heat of the Sun and the Heat of the Earth, is this what yo are implying or is there some other explanation you would proffer to explain it?

Stucky
Stucky
  Anonymous
August 20, 2017 12:01 pm

Yeah, well, for the first four decades of my life I was a WORSHIPPER of The Sun! So, blow we.

“thermonuclear reaction of hydrogen” = an H-BOMB. Why are you bringing up nukes again??

Look, when I go down into my basement it’s COOLER! When I go down deeper into a cave it is cooler still. What this PROVES is that the deeper you go into the Earth, the COOLER it gets. This is how the Ice Ages happened. I hope I have proffered enough to satisfy your curiosity.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
August 20, 2017 6:18 pm

Stucky, I give up on you.

You’re a sociopathic idiot incapable of serious discussion..

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Anonymous
August 20, 2017 6:30 pm

No, just radioactive decay, producing heat…

unit472
unit472
  Anonymous
August 20, 2017 1:34 pm

The denser matter sinks to the center of the earth. This means, that as the earth formed, the densest element uranium formed the core. So, in effect, the earth has a giant nuclear reactor at its center. This creates the heat that keeps the interior molten.

Probably a lot of gold down there too but getting at it is like extracting it from seawater. Not economic.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  unit472
August 20, 2017 2:28 pm

does that mean the people in hell are rich if they have access to the gold?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  unit472
August 20, 2017 6:20 pm

That’s what I’ve always considered, that the nuclear materials density of the core makes Earth self heating.

Stucky
Stucky
August 20, 2017 8:23 am

I’m not worried. I buy my gold from Rosland Capital.

art
art
August 20, 2017 8:36 am

I call BS on this article.

Stucky
Stucky
August 20, 2017 8:49 am

The bottom line is that we’re talking about a massive release of ENERGY.

ALL they have to do, therefore, is throw a bunch of shit down the hole that sucks up all available energy.

We can start by dumping into the hole the newly discovered exotic element Teslamanium … known to consume and destroy everything thrown at it.

Negroidium is also a possibility.

I’m sure there are others ……

kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
  Stucky
August 20, 2017 9:42 am

Musloidanium would produce the best energy results and the supply seems endless.

Dave
Dave
  Stucky
August 20, 2017 12:24 pm

Pelosium.
Pelosium: A major research institution has just announced the discovery of the densest element yet known to science. The new element has been named Pelosium. Pelosium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 311. These particles are held together by dark particles called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons. The symbol of Pelosium is PU. Pelosium’s mass actually increases over time, as morons randomly interact with various elements in the environment and become assistant deputy neutrons within the Pelosium atom, leading to the formation of isodopes. This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientists to believe that Pelosium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as Critical Morass. When catalyzed with money, Pelosium activates CNNadnausium, an element that radiates orders of magnitude more energy, albeit as incoherent noise, since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons as Pelosium.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 20, 2017 8:58 am

I remember when Elizabeth Claire Prophet’s community was hammered by the government for their geothermal project that was accused of cooling the area down enough that the geysers were starting to fail.

Now the same sort of thing is being proposed on a massively larger scale by the government.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 20, 2017 10:55 am

Yes there was a lot of uglies when CUT (Church Universal and Triumphant) wanted to tap into the hot springs. Seems the locals were afraid of the church and every thing they did. Much controversy during their stay.

kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
August 20, 2017 9:31 am

Stucky ….AZEK:
In 2012 I bought about $4,000 worth of PVC decking from UBS Lumberyard, including screws; AZEK is the brand name of the boards, but company name is CPG (Consumer Building Products, but they are changing their name to AZEK Building Products).
I removed all my old wood decking. Had someone who knew what they were doing help me for the hard parts, especially for building platform for stairs and railings. After 2 years, I noticed the Slate Grey color had turned to a very, very light grey. WTF !!!

I did Internet search, tried a couple of things (waste of time/labor). In 2015, I ruined a 20 FT board – I won’t tell you how cuz you will consider me stupid (deservedly so); so, I ordered a replacement board from UBS. After 1 1/2 years, I noticed that the new board didn’t fade and the deck looked stupid. I called AZEK – they changed the process; the new boards won’t fade (for a long time).

They should provide new boards but they refuse. They want me to use a special cleaner, annually. I told the guy that is BS – I changed to PVC so I wouldn’t have to do maintenance.

Thing is – they had all these different colors and they knew all would fade to light grey in 2 years time. I’m going to see if I can get in on a class action suit in CT.

Stucky
Stucky

Ahhhh! Mystery solved. The sad saga of a screwed consumer …. which is more typical than atypical.

After much bitching and endless time writing letters my ex wife once got a SINGLE Ginsu knife replaced. I divorced her soon after.

Thanks for ‘splainin it.

Kitster
Kitster
August 20, 2017 9:53 am

The most chilling words known to modern man:
I’m from the US government and I’m here to help!

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
August 20, 2017 10:42 am

Shoulda Woulda Coulda but won’t ! The plan makes good common sense approach to a potential devastating event that is highly probable . So by the time all the idiots in Washington DC finish shoving one thumb up their collective asses and sucking the other than switching thumbs , we will be “UP IN SMOKE” . The few survivors will be eating each other !

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
August 20, 2017 11:30 am

The GREATEST THREAT to the human species is the US GOVERNMENT. Not as asteroid, comet, or supervolcano. Much like the controversy over “climate change,” whether you believe the problem is real or something to worry about, there can be NO DENYING that handing the power to “address” the situation over to the US Government is the absolutely WRONG thing to do. Personally, I am rooting for the asteroids, comets, and supervolcanoes.

And they would already have been pulling massive amounts of geothermal energy from the area had it not been for the “National Park” designation (again, the US government).

Anon
Anon
August 20, 2017 12:03 pm

““Building a big aqueduct uphill into a mountainous region would be both costly and difficult, and people don’t want their water spent that way,” Wilcox says. “People are desperate for water all over the world and so a major infrastructure project, where the only way the water is used is to cool down a supervolcano, would be very controversial.”
So, NASA came up with an alternative plan.”
This is the problem with all Government agencies. Stupidity in thinking. Why would you go with the far more dangerous plan here, instead of the less politically pleasing, but far safer plan? Who gives a shit if “people don’t want their water spent that way”? I highly doubt those “people” want perpetual winter with the added bonus of extinction either. And as far as “spending their water”, water does not get “spent” it simply changes form. Every drop of water that existed since the beginning of the Earth is still here, it simply changes from salt water to fresh, or solid to gas. Also changes location and drinkability. In ALL cases, using it to keep us from all DYING should be the number one priority here. Not cost, not whether we are “spending” it wisely, but survival.
This is not about whether or not we are going to violate some Owls ecossystem, or trespass on some Indian lands. This is basically whether the ENTIRE human race is going to survive or not. Stupid morons in government still trying to rationalize political correctness and what is popular vs. risk to reward ratios. Good god….
I can see it now, it is discovered that a large asteroid is heading for the US, and could kill millions. Some smart scientists come up with a plan of diversion, but then the idiots in congress start bickering about whose jurisdiction gets the contract to build the device. Also, they will be bitching about the debt ceiling, and its impact (pun intended) on the national debt….You have to wonder, if there is intelligent life out there, that the reason we will never find them is not that they don’t exist. It is that we are the universes version of a giant trailer park, and they simply avoid our solar system like we would avoid downtown Detroit or Chicago.

Mesomorph
Mesomorph
August 20, 2017 1:36 pm

Well clearly the annual budget of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration is too large if they have the resources to focus on issues unrelated to their mission. Maybe the USGS can help NASA get that ion drive motor working as well. I always say that the weather observer and the financial hacks on the MSM news should just switch positions for a month because they couldn’t do any worse of a job. Maybe our government could try that for a while with all the agencies.
Next up: Stopping plate tectonics with special rubber bands stretched across the convergent boundaries.

unit472
unit472
August 20, 2017 1:41 pm

I’m no NASA rocket scientist but building some Hoover style dams on the Yellowstone and any other river outlets from the caldera would create, over time, a large lake. Putting the weight of 500 or 600 feet of water over the caldera would make it harder for the volcano to blow and, in the event it did, a few cubic miles of water would cool any escaping magma plugging the volcanic vents.

razzle
razzle
  unit472
August 20, 2017 1:50 pm

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MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
August 20, 2017 2:18 pm

I think I saw this one when I was a kid-isn’t this the one where Wile drops that big anvil on the Road Runner only it drops through the road and into the center of the earth and sets off a huge eruption that blows Wile off the cliff and into the sky?

Stucky
Stucky
August 20, 2017 8:48 pm

Anonymous

I am not a sociopathic idiot. Why resort to name calling? Because m arguments are superior to yours?

I have one more proof. They say the center of the earth is nickel. I have a nickel right here in my hand. Guess what? It’s COOL to the touch. Again proving earth’s core is cool, not hot.

I am willing to listen to your counterpoints, if you have any. I am more than willing to learn new stuff.

llpoh
llpoh
  Stucky
August 20, 2017 8:57 pm

Stuck – I know for a fact that is a damn lie. We all know what you have in your hand, and it is for sure not a damn nickel. Maybe the diameter of a nickel. Almost, anyway.

GilbertS
GilbertS
August 20, 2017 9:28 pm

Yeah, it sounds crazy, but what if it worked?

Imagine this:
We build a whole massive array of heat-exchanging power plants that use the power of the earth’s geothermal heat to run massive turbines, just like we do at nuclear power plants. We could siphon that heat off into massive complexes of power plants producing enough power to run the country long into the future. We would cut our dependence on oil and coal and even natty gas getting our electricity from magma. It makes me think of Buckminster Fuller’s plan to turn the planet into a giant energy production grid with solar in the deserts, geothermal and hydropower, wind power, etc all linked together.

And if the thing is doomed to explode anyway, why not chance it? You don’t need to go that deep to get access to some of the hot shit, so let’s start with the low-hanging fruit and start sucking up that heat.

Another crazy idea- don’t need that much high-pressure water. Why not just inject liquid nitrogen into it? THAT ought to be quite a show!

Seriously tho- imagine if we can fix this problem. This would be proof we’re moving towards Type I Civilization level on the Kardeshev Scale. Type I civs can harness all the available energy they receive from their sun and Type II civs are starfarers who can harness entire suns.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
August 20, 2017 10:03 pm

This is just a dumb fucking idea brought to you by the same reasoning that claims that if you trade in your Dodge Ram pickup for a Prius, you can save the planet from global warming.

I am not scared of drilling a hole into the lava dome on a supervolcano. It’s a stupid fucking idea and a waste of money but it’s far less than a pinprick. The volcano won’t notice or care. Heat transfer is pure Newtonian physics. Its really pretty simple stuff. Q=Mass x Specific Heat x delta T.
I don’t know what the mass of a supervolcano’s lava dome is but I am fairly certain it is humongous. Carl Sagan couldnt say trillions enough to describe the btu’s to cool it even one degree. But let’s say you could marshall enough water to give it a college try (you couldn’t. It would take a 10 mile diameter tunnel directly from the Pacific Ocean to even make a dent, but fuck it, lets say you could. You would make enough boiling water to cause a cloud cap that would very quickly put the northern hemisphere into a nuclear winter without the nukes. Not to mention flooding the entire mississippi delta forever.

But other than that, it’s a good idea. Let’s do it.

MOVINGTARGET
MOVINGTARGET
August 20, 2017 11:16 pm

This reminds me of those guys that caused the thermostat and temperature pressure relief valve (T&P valve or PT valve) on a hot water heater to malfunction intentionally. Once enough steam builds up, the wot water heater will explode, and if it was in your house, the whole house could be destroyed.

So, you want to drill a hole and pump water into a volcano?

I’m sure glad I live in Florida…

See hot water heater explode video here: http://waterheaterblast.com/
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