A flyer hung at the University of Colorado-Colorado Springs by a self-described social justice group suggests veterans at four-year universities are a disruptive threat that should be banned from campus.
The flyer, put up at the public university Thursday by a group calling itself the “Social Justice Collective Weekly,” argued veterans openly mock safe spaces and diversity efforts, which violates the school’s mission.
The flyer, which used a newsletter-style format, added it is “frightening” for some students to have vets in their classes, describing former service members as “overwhelming” and a distraction. It also suggests the “military culture” is akin to a “white supremacist organization,” and that veterans are typically associated with “right-wing groups such as the tea party and NRA.”
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The flyer ends by saying veterans should be allowed to go to trade schools or community colleges, but that “in order to protect our academic institutions we must ban veterans from four-year universities.”
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— Trash Panda (@OnlyTrashPanda) August 25, 2017
The University of Colorado-Colorado Springs is the same campus at which professors last year called the Founding Fathers “terrorists,” and claimed the nation’s founding ideals were a “fabrication.” Also last year, professors teaching an online medical humanities class there told their students to drop the course if they disputed man-made climate change.
A local news report on the flyer by KKTV-11 News notes that the flyer’s authors say it is the first issue, adding “it was reportedly approved by the university and posted on a bulletin board. The school says anyone is allowed to post items on the board.”
The news station adds that every single student they interviewed disagreed with the flyer’s sentiments, and students have also been taking them down.
“UCCS told 11 News the author is not a current student and couldn’t confirm if they were previously enrolled,” the station also reported. “We emailed the address on the newsletter, but haven’t heard back as of Friday morning. The author is listed in the article as Terry Steinawitz. UCCS said there is not a student by that name, and 11 News wasn’t able to find any records of anyone who goes by that name in Colorado. According to email responses to 11 News viewers by the editors of the letter, they say they are using fake names to protect themselves.”
On Friday, the University of Colorado Colorado Springs chancellor issued a statement that the flyer was hung by a “non-UCCS group” and voiced his disagreement with it, but also defended free speech.
“Just as I disagree with anyone who says that we should refuse a UCCS education to someone who ascribes to a religious faith, I disagree with anyone who says that we should refuse veterans a UCCS education,” Chancellor Venkat Reddy stated.
“We recognize the pain caused to many in our community. Consequently, I call upon the UCCS community to recognize the value of free and open discourse, while simultaneously standing firm in the inclusive values of our diverse community. If concerns exist about safe expression of ideas, our faculty and staff work diligently and are available to bridge gaps between disparate viewpoints,” he added. “We know our student veterans to be high achieving individuals with diverse viewpoints and values, and all of us are enriched by and fortunate to have the military community represented in our classrooms and campus spaces.”
A University of Colorado-Colorado Springs spokesperson told Campus Reform the flyer was posted “on an open community bulletin board in our University Center.” The spokesperson added it “does not represent the views of the University of Colorado-Colorado Springs … as a university, we value the contributions of veterans to the campus as well as to the broader community and nation.”
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Anyone who volunteers to serve in the military is a fucking idiot anyway so banning them from universities makes sense.
My Son-in-law is a fighter pilot in the Air Force.
I find you so repulsive that I wish you to die a long, painful death. You are a piece of shit.
EF
Anyone who participates in US wars is a piece of shit; none of them are just. Our allies are worthless at best and are our real enemies at worse. I don’t wish death up on them, (except the most extreme war criminals) but I do wish desertion.
Zara, I find that you bring a unique perspective to this place. Although I find myself agreeing with you less than anybody else here, I do at times find your views to be spot on.
Our youngest boy is a FO in the Army. He joined at 19 years old against the advice of his mother and myself. He was just a dumb kid at the time and very strong willed, after all he is his fathers son. The only thing he took my advice on was a 3 year enlistment. He has 11 months left and has never had to kill anyone or watch one of his compatriots die. We hope and pray to the Creator of all Creation that he returns safely to us.
Having just returned from a 6 month deployment to Thailand/ Philippines, and S.Korea he has realized the error of his ways and won’t be reenlisting.
I can forgive you calling my son, who you don’t know a piece of shit. He was just young and fool hearted. Normans wife however would not be able to forgive you and would probably beat your ass.
All I can tell you from meeting some of his fellow troops is they are not monsters and many are starting to be awakened to the treason in their midst. My son tells me if the shooting starts on US soil most plan to go home to be with their families.
I will try not to hate you for your remarks, and in the spirit of Stuckies new found happy horse shit I have just one thing to say to you. Suck my fuckin balls you dune coon mutherfucker, No Im sorry thats not it. I love you man. I truly do.
Ahem!!! I believe you’re an EXPERT in implementing my new found happy horse shit!!!
Thank you sir. I will be working on filling the world with love from this day forward. Although I must admit that there is much hate still in my heart.
“Hate is love.”
—- taught in Stucky’s final semester; Doctorate of Happy Horse Shit
“My son tells me if the shooting starts on US soil most plan to go home to be with their families.”
I was in the USAF, 71-75. Vietnam era … lots of turbulence with anti war protestors. “Baby killers!!” they taunted, and worse.
Had I been told to shoot one of them … or ANY other American I would have disobeyed or deserted … consequences be DAMNED.
I appreciate your post. and your son.
Very nicely said, Norman. To you and yours I apologize. As admin has said, TBP thrives on conflict. While I agree with my general assessment as stated here, I could have used more appropriate language. I should think it fairly obvious that my intent was to offend as many people as possible. In other words, I was trolling.
Thanks for your comment.
Z, No need to apologize as I have said many offensive things on TBP. It was nice of stuck to find a way for all of us to get along better, I am sure in the future we will all be calling each other names again because of Da Jews. Anyway there is nowhere else on earth or the inner webz where I find so many kindred spirits.
Don’t worry, your son will only have 5 years to be recalled to play cowboys and indians in the sandbox.
Happened to me in ’05, but I was too broke.
Shit. I don’t know if I should upvote Zara’s comment above or not. On the one hand he apologized. On the other hand he admitted his trollhood. I feel some love for him hating on the Neocons but I also want to downvote his mooslim sympathy and lack of appreciation for U.S. soldiers. Love is hard Stucky.
Your alleged “trolling” didn’t piss me off but rather saddened me.
When you consider the horrific job market, the horrific schooling and the prior generations incessant pot -smoking and gaming the bankrupt and indebted system, the armed services look awfully good to a naive young man or woman.
Finally, when you consider the suicides in sheer numbers of these youngsters…well, enjoy your cozy surrounds.
you didn’t WARN son-in-law about joining the imperial military?
f-g a-hole
Zara….to be unequivocally clear- Go Fuck Yourself
Sounds like fun. Can you teach me?
I imagine you already know how, losers like you certainly don’t get it anywhere else.
He can’t – doesn’t have a dick.
Fuck you, Z! I did my hitch in Uncle’s Navy and am a veteran and you’re an asshole.
Yeah, so?
what the fuck are you bragging about?!?!?!?
Forty years of liberal infiltration has taken its toll on Colorado. Once a conservative wonderland of the west, it has unfortunately become California of the Rockies. It saddens me.
Dumb fucks writing things like this should be ignored. Waste of electrons to even put it on the internet.
Mr Z ,you are being to harsh toward the young men in our military.Many young people can still learn a valuable trade or start a career in the military.I don’t like our government sending the military to fight Wars overseas but I still respect the young men in our military.
BB: First good post you’ve made in a month!
muck
Nope. Enlisting provides the empire with the means to wage war on innocents and threaten our safety at home. If nobody enlisted unless the military was properly utilized (for defense), we would not have an out of control empire. Sorry, ever since Korea/Vietnam the role of the military has been quite clear to anyone with the courage to face the truth. Its not a “jobs program,” its a “killing for the empire and its big business friends” program.
Anyone who doesn’t support our troops is a cunt. Everyone comment/article you now post is garbage.
I agree. Go fuck yourself commie cunt.
Anyone who buys into the glorification of the military is a mindless fuckhead. Take your military and wars for Israel and shove it all up your fat ass!
You know you’re digging a deeper hole. Haven’t been drinking today?
No, just tossing the monkeys a few bananas.
More like making a monkey out of yourself.
LOL…There it is!!!!
It’s da Jooos
Hahahahaha
How terribly predictable
I wonder if these SJWs at UC-CS want to ban Hispanic, Black and Asian veterans, or if their proposed ban only pertains to White veterans.
Now their heads will have to explode. The left needs a list of victim one victimizer status with plus and minus points so they can figure that out.
Say plus 10 for gay, minus 50 for white, minus 30 for veterans etc. that would make it easier.
Zara
“Gotta know when to hold ’em, know when to fold ’em”
—- Kenny Rogers
Stucky,
Glad to see you back my friend.
Bob.
Thank yeew!
Good to be back … kicking ass .. while spreading love.
Well, spreading something, anyways.
Nkit,
Or gay, lesbian and transgender veterans. Where does it end with these idiots. They want it all under their terms, but they do not understand the consequences of their terms. They cannot understand this is why their argument is so twisted that eventually they end up eating their own. I find it funny, my wife wonders why I stopped talking to many of her friends. These type of sentiments are exactly why.
Bob
You got it, Bostonbob, so I raise a glass to them and wish them bon appetit. Chow down bitchezzzz!
Hey Z
How bout we march you into a ditch and blow your fucking head off and then bayonet your silly corpse. Faggot.
Don’t be homophobic. Otherwise I’ll mail you a rusty chainsaw.
In other news… turns out the National Anthem is really just a dog whistle for “the south will rise again”.
http://www.salon.com/2017/08/27/it-is-time-to-examine-the-words-and-the-origins-of-our-national-anthem-another-neo-confederate-symbol_partner/
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Admin: “My preference would be no posts about Jews, Nazis, Hitler, Holocaust, KKK, or white supremacy. “
“Anyone who volunteers to serve in the military is a fucking idiot anyway so banning them from universities makes sense.”
—-Zara, admittedly trolling
Ok, get it. You’re trolling. Now what is your response to these well known military volunteers? Washington, Madison, Hamilton, Monroe, Jackson, Harrison, Grant, Lee, TR, Ike, JFK, and Bush Senior.
That’s off the top of my head and includes only US war veterans. As a Persian, what would you say about Xerxes and Darius the Great? I gave you a lot of ground to cover as a troll. I just know you’re up to the task.
SSS, glad I pulled you out of retirement. I think Donovan said it best. The soldiers are ultimately to blame; they decide to go to war. As for Darius (deservedly called the great) and his son Xerxes I (love the name, wish it were more common), let everyone judge for themselves whether the wars against the Greeks were justified or not. My personal opinion is that Athens should not have been burned…that was not the Persian way. Ron Paul, who like you served in the US Air Force, has long struggled with this song. He wonders if he was the universal soldier too.
It’s completely reasonable to support the both currently active and retired troops, while being against their misuse.
The real problem is that the US military is being used a mercenary force to enrich certain people at everyone else’s expense. This isn’t a new problem though. Smedley Butler (Marine Corps Major General) wrote a book called War is a Racket in 1935, that gives his point of view of it.
The correct question is what do we do about it?
Sorry, NO ITS NOT. When the government is FORCED to initiate a draft to KIDNAP young men and force them to fight for them, there is the immediate and distinct possibility of resistance, and ongoing resistance to this move. When young men voluntarily hand over their lives and their freedom to the state to use as the STATE desires, they essentially have given them a blank check for future abuse. Gen. Butler knew how horrible the military was treated and the TRUE nature of what the military IS USED FOR way back in 1935. That book is NOT OUT OF PRINT. Its probably in every library in America and available on Amazon for $3.79 and the Kindle version is only $0.99. Are we to simply let every young enlistee off the hook because they, like you, would like to PRETEND that there is somehow a difference between the “Military” and the folks the government uses to wage war for its big business friends against innocent brown peoples around the globe?? Because they are ONE AND THE SAME.
No draft was needed for WW2 as we were attacked. No draft is ever needed when the people actually support the military action. Pretending that millions of volunteers doesn’t empower the worthless government with the ability to simply do as they wish, is about as naive as one can get and simply goes completely against reality.
I have a great deal of respect for anyone who puts the uniform of the US Military . I also have nothing but contempt for those that send them on these fools errand missions abusing their authority and taking the patriotic duty of these great people for granted and abusing them for the enrichment purpose of a few connected groups
See my comment above to General. Our worthless government has been using the US military for the specific purpose of enriching a few “connected groups” as you say, since the Revolutionary War (to some extent). That the crystal clear words of a Maj. General of the Marines Corps continue to be ignored by both YOU and every volunteer, doesn’t change the truth of the relationship. Expecting that the government will “do the right thing” over and over and over, meets Einstein’s definition of insanity.