She did…. and she didn’t give a shit. A baby would infringe on her lifestyle. May as well pass the children through the fire to Moloch like the Canaanites did 3 thousand years ago. Since 1973 it’s been legally sanctioned in USA USA USA USA. But God loves us, we’re the exceptional nation. Can’t wait to see how it ends for U.S.
MMinLamesa
September 24, 2017 7:37 am
Fucking sick. This is a monstrous sin that as a society, we’re paying for right now. When I stand before God, he is most definitely going to ask WhyTF I didn’t do shit about it.
Not Sure
September 24, 2017 8:21 am
Colonial Gunsmith a must see.
Capt. Curly
September 24, 2017 8:35 am
Incredibly disgusting! We live in a culture of death!
Next train departing for hell in 5 minutes! One way.
ragman
September 24, 2017 9:03 am
Oregon just passed a bill that will give free abortions to all women. The “governor” was laughing and grinning like the evil idiot that she is as she signed it. Sick doesn’t describe our society anymore. We do not respect or protect our most innocent and vulnerable members of the human race, period end. Satanic and evil are more accurate terms to describe us.
Anonymous
September 24, 2017 9:11 am
Exceptional.
Brian
September 24, 2017 9:48 am
Stupid cunt. When you get older, saggy and dry up; better hope your cats will take better care of you dumbass. Certainly your non-existent children won’t.
On a darker note….perhaps it’s best this soulless ghoul doesn’t reproduce. Do us all a favor and sterilize yourself now before you decide on milking the welfare system with little bastards.
Maggie
September 24, 2017 10:40 am
I think the destruction of our culture was helped along greatly when Roe v. Wade normalized the wholesale slaughter of unborn children.
However, if you notice, there really aren’t a lot of women “bragging” about the choice. Well, this dumb bitch, but she is a product of the culture.
JIMSKI
September 24, 2017 10:57 am
If I could find her I would give her a hundred dollar bill and heartfelt thanks.
We all got off cheap.
KaD
September 24, 2017 11:07 am
I don’t understand WTF is so hard about using birth control.
Scott
September 24, 2017 11:21 am
A girl like that was probably knocked up by some half ape nig anyway so it really is more then likely for the best.
Wip
September 24, 2017 12:32 pm
That. simply. cannot. be. true. Can it?
General
September 24, 2017 1:03 pm
She is just a white n…… Nothing to see here. Move along.
rhs jr
September 24, 2017 1:41 pm
I was reprimanded by God about 1990 for my wife’s IUD abortion. It was not a dream: in 1970, I was seconds from crashing a jet and He told me verbally what was wrong; in 1978, I fell off a high roof but He caught me and put me standing in the middle of the roof. In 1985, my wife wanted an IUD because she said we could not afford another child. A few months later she was screaming and crying in the bathroom and I found her on a very bloody toilet. I tried to console her it was just tissue but she kept crying “You don’t understand”. About 1990, she divorced me and I was living alone. I advised a group of Republican candidates to dance around Choice because several polls showed a majority of people favored it. The next night, a man in Roman Armor at least 9 ft tall woke me about 2 AM and said “I am Michael and have just come from the Throne of God to tell you that you pride yourself on never having killed a man but you murdered your own daughter.” A young girl walked to His right side and said “I love you daddy” and both disappeared. I fell out of the bed and cried for a long time. That immediately changed my mind and now I understand completely.
Stucky
September 24, 2017 1:53 pm
Wow. God VERBALLY TALKS to you?
Angels are 50 feet tall. It’s in the bible. I think you saw Goliath.
Other than that, the rest of your post was retarded as shit.
Then again, Odin once hooked me up with some nice pussy, so anything is possible.
Thanks Stuckey for some feedback but I’m disappointed to say that it sounds childish. Someone surely of God spoke a few critical words to me and I am grateful; I wish it was frequent conversations. I later read that St Michael is 6’6″ (the “man” said He was Michael; I think Goliath would have looked odd); yes, some Angels are reported to be much bigger. You think my post is retarded; please think again…
Mary Christine
September 24, 2017 6:15 pm
So I guess none of you ever had sex outside of marriage, right? Because if you did, there is a good possibility your partner had an abortion and you don’t even know about it. You are all perfect so no women ever had to worry when she was around you, no matter what kind of woman she was..right?
You were all strong fathers to your daughters, if you have them, right? You taught your sons to wait until marriage to have sex, didn’t you? Yeah, I didn’t think so..
She looks pretty young to me, young and really dumb, that’s for sure. Making horrible choices that she will carry around for her for the rest of her life. There is no way you can rip a child from your womb and not have consequences, even if it is legal. Our bodies are not made for us to do that. She will experience some or all of the symptoms of post-abortion stress disorder. A disorder that the shrinks refuse to recognize because it’s not politically correct. Some are actual physical issues, most are mental but none the less life altering. Ahh, but she deserves it, you are thinking to yourselves, aren’t you? She deserves to die for what she has done. Yeah, I do.
If she ever gets married, I predict her marriage will fail. My guess is her father was never around, or if he was he was emotionally distant, abusive, or both.
So go ahead and throw stones at her. She deserves it. I deserve it.
Go ahead.. I dare you.
I work with women just like her, who have stories that would curl your hair.
Abortion should be illegal but it’s not and it’s not going away so I help pick up the pieces of broken women, with broken lives and broken marriages and you know what? It works. It works so well that their husbands help with the ministry because it changed their marriage so much.
And yeah, we will stand before God some day and he will ask “WHAT DID YOU DO ABOUT IT?”
You may now return to your football and economic issues of the day.
We should try to minimize the sin and try to persuade sinners to repent; but not condone abortion; help the women with unwanted babies; murder is “asking for Hell”. We should help and adopt more orphans etc.
Men have primal urge to cum in the pussy when fucking. I knew me and I knew the risks. That’s why I masturbated frequently. It’s also why I married my future wife after she was knocked up. I’m pretty certain there are no abortions bearing my name, but it’s possible.
The “bible” has something to say about masturbation.
“If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body, than for your whole body to go into Hell” (Matthew 5:30). Wonder why the other salient part is not nominated for excision….!?!
“Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled [it] on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.”
Basically “the LORD” character is a psychopath and despotic celestial eugenist.
Sicko god character deploys Moses the pre-emptive abortionist: Numbers 31:15-17 ESV ; Moses said to them, “Have you let all the women live? Behold, these, on Balaam’s advice, caused the people of Israel to act treacherously against the Lord in the incident of Peor, and so the plague came among the congregation of the Lord. Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him.
Here are some tasty bits:
Genesis 38:24; About three months later Judah was told, “Tamar your daughter-in-law has been immoral. Moreover, she is pregnant by immorality.” And Judah said, “Bring her out, and let her be burned.”
Hosea 13:16 ESV; Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword; their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open.
The Babble says beating the fetus out of a pregnant woman is not “harm”:
Exodus 21:22-25 ESV ; “When men strive together and hit a pregnant woman, so that her children come out, but there is no harm, the one who hit her shall surely be fined, as the woman’s husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.”
I really could go on and on and on, but it’s becoming deeply depressing.
Genesis 13:16 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered.” Mind boggling. Imagine the number of humans equalling the number of motes of dust. Clearly impossible and delusionary.
Really, any one of these citations should cause a normal person to reject out of hand any commandments or supposed truths written in this monstrous work of human propaganda.
WORST OF ALL:
God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
Ok, we’ve now long “subdued” the Earth.. in fact, we have subdued it to the point of killing it. Bravo! Its death is nigh. Our “dominion” has extended to exterminating pretty much all the fish and birds and insects and “every living thing that moves”. 97% of terrestrial vertebrate biomass is humans and humans’ domesticated livestock; 3% is all the rest.. all “wildlife” and that diminishes day by day as we invite 250,000 or so NET new humans onto the planet Each and Every Day. Most humans think that this is still not enough, and that we need to control and conquer more: an even greater percentage, until? What?
Everyone look around you. The trees are all dying. When the trees are all dead, what future is it do you think humans will have, silly Bible notions or no?
The Apocalypse is here, but it doesn’t involve any Jesus character, or god character, or holy spirit. It is just Death dealt out of sheer exhaustion, out of over-use, over-population, and the blind ignorance of the mindless eating and reproducing organism in any given Petri dish, from which we have not risen above in intelligence.
Thank you, Sister Mary Christine. I hope TBPers don’t harden your heart. Most times, humans arrive here as Noobs and they are driven off. Those that stay become screaming apes cheering the approved social engineering line or the AltRight doctrine. Your comment comes from the heart and from a fully functioning mind. I appreciate it.
HF, Stucky says there are only about a dozen folks here that are worth reading. I imagine you are in that select group while the vast majority are dumb bunnies who react in predictable fashion. They are wonderful folks but predictable, a big no-no in razzle’s book. Sad to say, I am in that predictable group, a little to the left.
The only reason a woman would suffer a “stress disorder” after terminating an *unwanted* pregnancy is because of judgmental religious assholes like most of the people commenting here.
FYI, for those who may have conveniently forgotten, the “bible” ALSO commands men not to spill their seed. How many male TBP’ers “religiously” adhere to THAT commandment from On High, might I inquire!?!??
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I really just Do Not Get the Babble thing. If I were to tell you that Ovid’s Metamorphoses or some random Harry Potter book were the Inerrant Word of some Omnipotent God Character, you would think I was crazy. But somehow some other book is different. Why, I have no fucking idea.. and—despite what they will tell you—neither does anyone else!!
Chubby, did you not understand when HF said that calling most of the people commenting here by unsavory names is unwarranted?
jamesthedeplorablewanderer
September 24, 2017 8:38 pm
I had sex before marriage with one woman, whom I married and still am. That makes me an incredibly unique outlier in today’s America, although at one time I would not even have been remarkable; back then most were expected to at least remain chaste until engagement to marry, if not after to the ceremony as well.
We lost our first to a miscarriage; will God hold us responsible for that? How is it different, really? It stopped being a fetus, right?
What changed that made abortion acceptable as birth control?
What changed in us that made it so common?
“We lost our first to a miscarriage; will God hold us responsible for that?” If you didn’t cause it, you are blameless; you can be with him/her in Heaven some day.
I had sex before marriage with one woman, whom I married and still am. jamesthetexan
You still am what? Alive? Is premarital sex some sort of dangerous escapade? In olden days, we bragged about smoking in the boys room, not copping a feelie.
AC
September 24, 2017 9:37 pm
White Sharia. Now.
GilbertS
September 24, 2017 10:13 pm
I managed to clean up my act before I finally married my spouse. We met, drifted apart, and renewed it several years before we finally got serious. I was not good marriage material at first, but I had a few knocks along the way that taught me the way before I really screwed up. Had we married when we first met, I don’t think we would have survived as long as we have.
Second, during my lifetime the world’s human population has increased by about 150%, from 3 billion to over 7.5 billion. Realistically, how many times do you any of you think this can repeat?
Lastly, with a person of this calibre—whose poorest choice is not the abortion, but the nasty selfie—would you really *want* them raising kids?
signed,
someone extremely skeptical of the unquestioned desirability of infinite humanoids
“There is a way that seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death. Prov 14:12” God’s way is obviously the hard way for mankind: stop sinning and walk His narrow path. War and Natural Disasters will keep the population down… Our task is to obey God, die and be judged worthy of Heaven; killing unwanted babies might seem like a smart idea but it isn’t worth the price (esp for a nation).
What “price” are you talking about? Some made-up idea of hellfire? Bunch of goatherd patriarchs in the desert wanna keep the wimmenfolk barefoot and pg and invent an invisible Big Sky Daddy to keep the wives and kiddies in line. Disobey Dad and the boogie-man gets ya! Jews, Muslims, Xtian fundies.. phooey on all of ’em.
Your fear of accountability comes through in every one of your posts.
Those patriarchs (and their wives, if you actually bother to pay attention to what was really being said)… formed the structure that guided culture from genuine barbarism into culture with order. Truly consider the stock of people they were working with when establishing rules and cultural norms. Think REALLY HARD about the actual world the people took as normal in those books are talking about and you’ll see the direction they actually point.
You, like a leftist, attack your foundation because you don’t comprehend it. You, like a leftist, will learn the hard way what is outside those gates if the structures you are so eager to phoo on truly fall.
Accountability to whom? To you? Or to a fictitious character your group has invented in order to exert control over folks, especially over the vulnerable and the desperate, the weak and the ignorant???
I need render account to no-one save my friends and family.
The whole religious affair is despicable.
And what does “left” or “right” have to do with it? Both sides pander to “religionists” who employ “spiritual” extortion to keep people afraid and in line, coughing up the weekly tithes.
“Anonymous” (that’s helpful) … you don’t even know what “barbarism” is. It’s the condition of having a beard! How terrible! Civilization imposes its taxes, like shaving. Do you accept them all, blindly? If so, why?
Come, don’t be so barbarous in your linguistics. It’s doesn’t suit that deep penetrating insight into you have of the thin veneer that is protecting you.
I don’t have a “shrill existential terror” to any degree whatsoever. Rather my perception is that religionists suffer this condition, and religionists need to propel their egos *infinitely forward*, it would seem, in space and time.
I can take life, or leave it, as circumstances suggest, and if it ends tomorrow I am satisfied and content.
Those most desperate to cling to life with extravagant medical interventions I have come across are the Christianists (who should be most eager to meet their maker, go figure).
I am only able to cover over the shriek of the void when someone directly calls me out on it, but when I’m not paying attention my posts are giant neon signs saying “ABYSS HERE ABYSS HERE”.
I focus on the dumbest examples and representatives of non-materialism as a crutch for my own existential dead end.
Chubby Bubbles
September 25, 2017 12:33 am
For 99% of the existence of the human species, birth control pretty much equalled routine infanticide including “exposure”, and this was largely controlled by women. It’s still practiced today in remote parts.
Modern male panic is an interesting phenomenon in this regard. “Every Sperm is Sacred” is a fairly modern concept, from what I can tell.
Certain tribesmen would puncture the base of their penises in order to install a wooden peg, allowing them to block ejaculation. Historically, excess mouths to feed were not generally welcome.
The Italian sur-name “Esposito” means “exposed”, and was given, along with other characteristic sur-names like Trovato (“found”), d’Ignoti (“of unknowns”), d’Amore (“of Love”), Salvato (“saved”), Aflitto (“afflicted”!), etc., .. in the times when monasteries would take in anonymous donations of “foundlings”.
Notably, an organization like a “Church” always needs new members to support a priestly elite in the manner to which they would like to become accustomed so—like Amway [brainchild of the superficially-religious DeVos folks, N.B.]—they need to do a Multi-Level-Marketing job to recruit more bodies for their pyramid schemes. They can’t profit off of a steady-state situation.
The human pain and suffering caused by human over-population is incalculable. Human over-population has already doomed the species entirely, along with most other species. There’s a not-insignificant chance that the next human generation will be the last.
Not likely. A recent movie put it at 300; three hundred humans were expected to re-populate the earth, I believe, with enough genetic diversity to prevent genetic degradation to idiocy.
I suspect, barring total nuclear war, at least 300 humans would survive the next collapse. Whether they would be capable of FINDING each other, with Farcebook offline and the power grid down, remains to be seen. Whether they would be worth preserving / reproducing is an open question as well; if they were all socialists they’d starve to death, and if they were all the same (any nation) they might not be able to cooperate long enough to get in the first crop.
Oh, well… if “a recent movie” said otherwise, I stand corrected! (not.)
If anyone has felt the intensity of the sun recently, or has seen the crispy, spotted, leaves on the dying trees around you (pretty much all of them), you’ll know that all bets are off.
In the past climate has changed, both slowly and “rapidly”. The current rapidity of change, however, is something like 1000x or several hundreds of times more rapid than at any time recognized in the past, that we know.
In the past, some species did make the leap to a new climate regime… but at a rate of change hundreds of times faster than that no complex species can be relied upon to effectively evolve: the change is taking place much faster now than a single generation can react (various bacteria will certainly persist to a degree, given a generational turnover of days as opposed to decades).
Please, I invite you to look at the trees in your neighborhood, wherever you are.
I’m in a northern rural area and I see almost no trees which could be called healthy. The role of trees in the hydrological cycle cannot be overstated: the death of trees means desertification, no ifs, ands, or buts.
“…prevent genetic degradation to idiocy.”
Ha!
Too late.
Warming denialists are in full force here, as elsewhere.
The Freak Flag of Idiocy flies high.
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What I find bizarre is the proposed idea that 300 (or whatever small # of) people potentially “re-populating” a mainly dead planet at some point in the future (they won’t, but let’s pretend) should somehow be satisfying to humans today. Those 300 (or whatever small number, should they persist) will simply restart anew the enzymatic breakdown of any existing energy gradients until exhaustion. The fossil fuels will no longer be there: too bad, so sad. Neither will there be fisheries or forests. No birds, no frogs, toads, snails, snakes.. not even a substantial number of insects. Too bad, so sad. For a short while there’ll be “human resources”. And then?
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I was just at the Maine shore mid-state this weekend. No sea-shore smell, no sea-shore birds, little sea-weed, no fish. One single crab carcass seen on my path over a 1000 ft. stretch of coastline or so, maybe a single handful of puny mussel shells along the same expanse, a small snail shell here or there. The rest just rocks upon rocks. I’ve lived in New England most of my life and never seen anything like it: never seen a Dead Seashore, or even imagined one, but this was it, far away from any built-up areas. The Ocean is basically No More, at least in that once-important zone.
Warming denialists, I feel certain, must be folks who live in cities and commute to and from an artificial work cube to an artificial living cube. Anyone with the interest and/or the means to spend any amount of time outside knows the real score: we are completely fucked.
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We are completely fucked and anyone knowingly bringing a child into the world at this point is guilty of abuse.
It’s called leaf scorch and it is the result of LAST years drought which was- for us at least- one of the worst in the past 100 years. That lowered our aquifers, thus leaving a void between the normal level of groundwater and the present level.
You pay attention to details, go out and look at the production of smaras and acorns and tell us if it is normal or unusual. What does that tell you about the tree?
Just because you notice something where you are does not equate to it happening everywhere. You are, quite literally, missing the forest for the trees.
I travel all over the country and the world for work and I do not see the end of life of which you speak. In fact, things look pretty good. It was raining to beat all in Missouri two weeks ago. On the east coast, too. I haven’t checked my acorns too closely around here, but I got plenty in my back yard. Last year was a short year for many of the trees I saw. (Mast is the heavy year, right?) But this summer the berries (mulberries, black raspberries, blackberries) were great (missed too many due to travel). The black walnuts were coming in just fine in Omaha, where I just visited last week. I have hawks flying around my neighborhood right now. I see deer spoor in the lush woods nearby. I am not seeing widespread death or doom at all.
Additionally, while I fear for my children and the world they shall inherit, I do not feel stupid for having them and I plan to arm them in all ways to be ready for the world as it is. I was afraid to have them and I agonized about the world, but I’m damn glad they’re here with me. They’re coming back from visiting their Babcia today and I can’t wait to see them.
Gloriously Deplorable Paul
September 25, 2017 12:58 am
rhs jr= I found your story fascinating but too brief. Would you please expand?
I certainly do believe in the possibility of supernatural incidents. I know people that I trust implicitly who have had similar incidents. I always find them interesting.
GDP, of course. Anything in particular? Michael was not a dream; I awoke as someone walked from the left end of my bed to the right and He was so big the ceiling was gone; I was almost immediately awake no doubt with my eyes wide and mouth open; it had to be supernatural and not some intruder. His speech was loud, angry and fast. I was listening and observing. He was in typical Roman armor with hard dark leather trapezoid plates sewn to a blood red “skirt”. His torso was covered with leather with a small round shield on His chest. He had no wings or sword. He had leather plates protecting His shoulders, arms and shins. My daughter suddenly came from the left also and she looked a lot like my Father-in-Law but sounded like my daughter Tammy. I immediately remembered everything about my wife’s miscarriage and I was stunned many ways at once (fear, shock, broken heart): the real Michael from the real God angry at me come to Earth to chew me out; and a daughter that God said I killed who loved me then poof they were gone. I felt so awful I fell on the floor and cried so hard. That gave me a lot to think about; God knows everything, even our “unconscious” thoughts. I see that am accountable for not stopping Sylvia from getting the IUD; and probably a lot of things on Earth.
hardscrabble farmer
September 25, 2017 6:35 am
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Mary Christine
September 25, 2017 10:30 am
Nothing like an abortion “discussion” to get people’s panties all discombobulated!
I find it fascinating that commenters here say some tattooed freak shouldn’t be allowed to exist, but then hate a woman who, if forced to have a child she doesn’t want, would raise that child to know that they were unwanted, unloved and not worthy of her attention — to the point where that child would grow into a troubled adult just like the ones you post and declare superiority over.
Good to see there are voices of reason here, however.
Crazy; but to me she seems to admit murder. She comments as if she knows the baby was alive inside her until she had it murdered.
She did…. and she didn’t give a shit. A baby would infringe on her lifestyle. May as well pass the children through the fire to Moloch like the Canaanites did 3 thousand years ago. Since 1973 it’s been legally sanctioned in USA USA USA USA. But God loves us, we’re the exceptional nation. Can’t wait to see how it ends for U.S.
Fucking sick. This is a monstrous sin that as a society, we’re paying for right now. When I stand before God, he is most definitely going to ask WhyTF I didn’t do shit about it.
Colonial Gunsmith a must see.
Incredibly disgusting! We live in a culture of death!
We always have done.
Next train departing for hell in 5 minutes! One way.
Oregon just passed a bill that will give free abortions to all women. The “governor” was laughing and grinning like the evil idiot that she is as she signed it. Sick doesn’t describe our society anymore. We do not respect or protect our most innocent and vulnerable members of the human race, period end. Satanic and evil are more accurate terms to describe us.
Exceptional.
Stupid cunt. When you get older, saggy and dry up; better hope your cats will take better care of you dumbass. Certainly your non-existent children won’t.
On a darker note….perhaps it’s best this soulless ghoul doesn’t reproduce. Do us all a favor and sterilize yourself now before you decide on milking the welfare system with little bastards.
I think the destruction of our culture was helped along greatly when Roe v. Wade normalized the wholesale slaughter of unborn children.
However, if you notice, there really aren’t a lot of women “bragging” about the choice. Well, this dumb bitch, but she is a product of the culture.
If I could find her I would give her a hundred dollar bill and heartfelt thanks.
We all got off cheap.
I don’t understand WTF is so hard about using birth control.
A girl like that was probably knocked up by some half ape nig anyway so it really is more then likely for the best.
That. simply. cannot. be. true. Can it?
She is just a white n…… Nothing to see here. Move along.
I was reprimanded by God about 1990 for my wife’s IUD abortion. It was not a dream: in 1970, I was seconds from crashing a jet and He told me verbally what was wrong; in 1978, I fell off a high roof but He caught me and put me standing in the middle of the roof. In 1985, my wife wanted an IUD because she said we could not afford another child. A few months later she was screaming and crying in the bathroom and I found her on a very bloody toilet. I tried to console her it was just tissue but she kept crying “You don’t understand”. About 1990, she divorced me and I was living alone. I advised a group of Republican candidates to dance around Choice because several polls showed a majority of people favored it. The next night, a man in Roman Armor at least 9 ft tall woke me about 2 AM and said “I am Michael and have just come from the Throne of God to tell you that you pride yourself on never having killed a man but you murdered your own daughter.” A young girl walked to His right side and said “I love you daddy” and both disappeared. I fell out of the bed and cried for a long time. That immediately changed my mind and now I understand completely.
Wow. God VERBALLY TALKS to you?
Angels are 50 feet tall. It’s in the bible. I think you saw Goliath.
Other than that, the rest of your post was retarded as shit.
Then again, Odin once hooked me up with some nice pussy, so anything is possible.
Thanks Stuckey for some feedback but I’m disappointed to say that it sounds childish. Someone surely of God spoke a few critical words to me and I am grateful; I wish it was frequent conversations. I later read that St Michael is 6’6″ (the “man” said He was Michael; I think Goliath would have looked odd); yes, some Angels are reported to be much bigger. You think my post is retarded; please think again…
So I guess none of you ever had sex outside of marriage, right? Because if you did, there is a good possibility your partner had an abortion and you don’t even know about it. You are all perfect so no women ever had to worry when she was around you, no matter what kind of woman she was..right?
You were all strong fathers to your daughters, if you have them, right? You taught your sons to wait until marriage to have sex, didn’t you? Yeah, I didn’t think so..
She looks pretty young to me, young and really dumb, that’s for sure. Making horrible choices that she will carry around for her for the rest of her life. There is no way you can rip a child from your womb and not have consequences, even if it is legal. Our bodies are not made for us to do that. She will experience some or all of the symptoms of post-abortion stress disorder. A disorder that the shrinks refuse to recognize because it’s not politically correct. Some are actual physical issues, most are mental but none the less life altering. Ahh, but she deserves it, you are thinking to yourselves, aren’t you? She deserves to die for what she has done. Yeah, I do.
If she ever gets married, I predict her marriage will fail. My guess is her father was never around, or if he was he was emotionally distant, abusive, or both.
So go ahead and throw stones at her. She deserves it. I deserve it.
Go ahead.. I dare you.
I work with women just like her, who have stories that would curl your hair.
https://herchoicetoheal.com/common-issues-post-abortive-people-experience/
Abortion should be illegal but it’s not and it’s not going away so I help pick up the pieces of broken women, with broken lives and broken marriages and you know what? It works. It works so well that their husbands help with the ministry because it changed their marriage so much.
And yeah, we will stand before God some day and he will ask “WHAT DID YOU DO ABOUT IT?”
You may now return to your football and economic issues of the day.
We should try to minimize the sin and try to persuade sinners to repent; but not condone abortion; help the women with unwanted babies; murder is “asking for Hell”. We should help and adopt more orphans etc.
Oh and by the way the statistics are 1 in 3 women by the age of 45.
What the hell with the downvotes? I didn’t make up those statistics!
You want links? Let me know I’ll get them.
Men have primal urge to cum in the pussy when fucking. I knew me and I knew the risks. That’s why I masturbated frequently. It’s also why I married my future wife after she was knocked up. I’m pretty certain there are no abortions bearing my name, but it’s possible.
It’s also why I married my future wife after she was knocked up. -Z
Did you marry her when you were ten? Who was the baby daddy?
John is so lazy, he married a girl who was already pregnant – Old Phil
The “bible” has something to say about masturbation.
“If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body, than for your whole body to go into Hell” (Matthew 5:30). Wonder why the other salient part is not nominated for excision….!?!
“Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled [it] on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.”
Basically “the LORD” character is a psychopath and despotic celestial eugenist.
Sicko god character deploys Moses the pre-emptive abortionist: Numbers 31:15-17 ESV ; Moses said to them, “Have you let all the women live? Behold, these, on Balaam’s advice, caused the people of Israel to act treacherously against the Lord in the incident of Peor, and so the plague came among the congregation of the Lord. Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him.
Here are some tasty bits:
Genesis 38:24; About three months later Judah was told, “Tamar your daughter-in-law has been immoral. Moreover, she is pregnant by immorality.” And Judah said, “Bring her out, and let her be burned.”
Hosea 13:16 ESV; Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword; their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open.
The Babble says beating the fetus out of a pregnant woman is not “harm”:
Exodus 21:22-25 ESV ; “When men strive together and hit a pregnant woman, so that her children come out, but there is no harm, the one who hit her shall surely be fined, as the woman’s husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.”
I really could go on and on and on, but it’s becoming deeply depressing.
Genesis 13:16 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered.” Mind boggling. Imagine the number of humans equalling the number of motes of dust. Clearly impossible and delusionary.
Really, any one of these citations should cause a normal person to reject out of hand any commandments or supposed truths written in this monstrous work of human propaganda.
WORST OF ALL:
God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
Ok, we’ve now long “subdued” the Earth.. in fact, we have subdued it to the point of killing it. Bravo! Its death is nigh. Our “dominion” has extended to exterminating pretty much all the fish and birds and insects and “every living thing that moves”. 97% of terrestrial vertebrate biomass is humans and humans’ domesticated livestock; 3% is all the rest.. all “wildlife” and that diminishes day by day as we invite 250,000 or so NET new humans onto the planet Each and Every Day. Most humans think that this is still not enough, and that we need to control and conquer more: an even greater percentage, until? What?
Everyone look around you. The trees are all dying. When the trees are all dead, what future is it do you think humans will have, silly Bible notions or no?
The Apocalypse is here, but it doesn’t involve any Jesus character, or god character, or holy spirit. It is just Death dealt out of sheer exhaustion, out of over-use, over-population, and the blind ignorance of the mindless eating and reproducing organism in any given Petri dish, from which we have not risen above in intelligence.
good post,mary christine–
Thank you, Sister Mary Christine. I hope TBPers don’t harden your heart. Most times, humans arrive here as Noobs and they are driven off. Those that stay become screaming apes cheering the approved social engineering line or the AltRight doctrine. Your comment comes from the heart and from a fully functioning mind. I appreciate it.
Lol! Classic Cheech and Chong.
Not going anywhere. I grew a thick skin. I was baptized by fire on ticker forum.
That was uncalled for.
HF, Stucky says there are only about a dozen folks here that are worth reading. I imagine you are in that select group while the vast majority are dumb bunnies who react in predictable fashion. They are wonderful folks but predictable, a big no-no in razzle’s book. Sad to say, I am in that predictable group, a little to the left.
High, Maggita!
The only reason a woman would suffer a “stress disorder” after terminating an *unwanted* pregnancy is because of judgmental religious assholes like most of the people commenting here.
FYI, for those who may have conveniently forgotten, the “bible” ALSO commands men not to spill their seed. How many male TBP’ers “religiously” adhere to THAT commandment from On High, might I inquire!?!??
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I really just Do Not Get the Babble thing. If I were to tell you that Ovid’s Metamorphoses or some random Harry Potter book were the Inerrant Word of some Omnipotent God Character, you would think I was crazy. But somehow some other book is different. Why, I have no fucking idea.. and—despite what they will tell you—neither does anyone else!!
Chubby, did you not understand when HF said that calling most of the people commenting here by unsavory names is unwarranted?
I had sex before marriage with one woman, whom I married and still am. That makes me an incredibly unique outlier in today’s America, although at one time I would not even have been remarkable; back then most were expected to at least remain chaste until engagement to marry, if not after to the ceremony as well.
We lost our first to a miscarriage; will God hold us responsible for that? How is it different, really? It stopped being a fetus, right?
What changed that made abortion acceptable as birth control?
What changed in us that made it so common?
“We lost our first to a miscarriage; will God hold us responsible for that?” If you didn’t cause it, you are blameless; you can be with him/her in Heaven some day.
I had sex before marriage with one woman, whom I married and still am. jamesthetexan
You still am what? Alive? Is premarital sex some sort of dangerous escapade? In olden days, we bragged about smoking in the boys room, not copping a feelie.
White Sharia. Now.
I managed to clean up my act before I finally married my spouse. We met, drifted apart, and renewed it several years before we finally got serious. I was not good marriage material at first, but I had a few knocks along the way that taught me the way before I really screwed up. Had we married when we first met, I don’t think we would have survived as long as we have.
First off, none of you seem to recognize a survival strategy which many animals employ. Sometimes women need to put their own oxygen masks on before helping others, including temporary uterine residents. This “love the fetus, hate the adult” thing is extremely odd to me. See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ireland/9679840/Pregnant-woman-dies-in-Ireland-after-being-denied-an-abortion.html
Second, during my lifetime the world’s human population has increased by about 150%, from 3 billion to over 7.5 billion. Realistically, how many times do you any of you think this can repeat?
Lastly, with a person of this calibre—whose poorest choice is not the abortion, but the nasty selfie—would you really *want* them raising kids?
signed,
someone extremely skeptical of the unquestioned desirability of infinite humanoids
“There is a way that seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death. Prov 14:12” God’s way is obviously the hard way for mankind: stop sinning and walk His narrow path. War and Natural Disasters will keep the population down… Our task is to obey God, die and be judged worthy of Heaven; killing unwanted babies might seem like a smart idea but it isn’t worth the price (esp for a nation).
What “price” are you talking about? Some made-up idea of hellfire? Bunch of goatherd patriarchs in the desert wanna keep the wimmenfolk barefoot and pg and invent an invisible Big Sky Daddy to keep the wives and kiddies in line. Disobey Dad and the boogie-man gets ya! Jews, Muslims, Xtian fundies.. phooey on all of ’em.
Your fear of accountability comes through in every one of your posts.
Those patriarchs (and their wives, if you actually bother to pay attention to what was really being said)… formed the structure that guided culture from genuine barbarism into culture with order. Truly consider the stock of people they were working with when establishing rules and cultural norms. Think REALLY HARD about the actual world the people took as normal in those books are talking about and you’ll see the direction they actually point.
You, like a leftist, attack your foundation because you don’t comprehend it. You, like a leftist, will learn the hard way what is outside those gates if the structures you are so eager to phoo on truly fall.
Take care.
Accountability to whom? To you? Or to a fictitious character your group has invented in order to exert control over folks, especially over the vulnerable and the desperate, the weak and the ignorant???
I need render account to no-one save my friends and family.
The whole religious affair is despicable.
And what does “left” or “right” have to do with it? Both sides pander to “religionists” who employ “spiritual” extortion to keep people afraid and in line, coughing up the weekly tithes.
“Anonymous” (that’s helpful) … you don’t even know what “barbarism” is. It’s the condition of having a beard! How terrible! Civilization imposes its taxes, like shaving. Do you accept them all, blindly? If so, why?
“Accountability to whom? To you?”
The Truth, and the true you.
Do go on, keep clawing at them walls like a monkey punching a mirror it doesn’t understand. What’s on the other side is hungry.
Come, don’t be so barbarous in your linguistics. It’s doesn’t suit that deep penetrating insight into you have of the thin veneer that is protecting you.
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“someone extremely skeptical of the unquestioned desirability of infinite humanoids”
Easy solution. Kill yourself and don’t have kids. Pretty straight forward. Thanks for helping.
Anonymous, congratulate yourself, because I restrain from killing myself in order not to give jerks like you any satisfaction.
It pleases me greatly you have chosen life.
It’s a step in the right direction and away from the shrill existential terror that effuses out of every thought you express.
Ohhoho no-name cowardly Anonymous. You can’t play reverse psychology games on me!!! I’m tying my own noose RIGHT NOW!
The above is an imposter.
I don’t have a “shrill existential terror” to any degree whatsoever. Rather my perception is that religionists suffer this condition, and religionists need to propel their egos *infinitely forward*, it would seem, in space and time.
I can take life, or leave it, as circumstances suggest, and if it ends tomorrow I am satisfied and content.
Those most desperate to cling to life with extravagant medical interventions I have come across are the Christianists (who should be most eager to meet their maker, go figure).
What I fear most is facing myself as myself.
I am only able to cover over the shriek of the void when someone directly calls me out on it, but when I’m not paying attention my posts are giant neon signs saying “ABYSS HERE ABYSS HERE”.
I focus on the dumbest examples and representatives of non-materialism as a crutch for my own existential dead end.
For 99% of the existence of the human species, birth control pretty much equalled routine infanticide including “exposure”, and this was largely controlled by women. It’s still practiced today in remote parts.
Modern male panic is an interesting phenomenon in this regard. “Every Sperm is Sacred” is a fairly modern concept, from what I can tell.
Certain tribesmen would puncture the base of their penises in order to install a wooden peg, allowing them to block ejaculation. Historically, excess mouths to feed were not generally welcome.
The Italian sur-name “Esposito” means “exposed”, and was given, along with other characteristic sur-names like Trovato (“found”), d’Ignoti (“of unknowns”), d’Amore (“of Love”), Salvato (“saved”), Aflitto (“afflicted”!), etc., .. in the times when monasteries would take in anonymous donations of “foundlings”.
Notably, an organization like a “Church” always needs new members to support a priestly elite in the manner to which they would like to become accustomed so—like Amway [brainchild of the superficially-religious DeVos folks, N.B.]—they need to do a Multi-Level-Marketing job to recruit more bodies for their pyramid schemes. They can’t profit off of a steady-state situation.
The human pain and suffering caused by human over-population is incalculable. Human over-population has already doomed the species entirely, along with most other species. There’s a not-insignificant chance that the next human generation will be the last.
Not likely. A recent movie put it at 300; three hundred humans were expected to re-populate the earth, I believe, with enough genetic diversity to prevent genetic degradation to idiocy.
I suspect, barring total nuclear war, at least 300 humans would survive the next collapse. Whether they would be capable of FINDING each other, with Farcebook offline and the power grid down, remains to be seen. Whether they would be worth preserving / reproducing is an open question as well; if they were all socialists they’d starve to death, and if they were all the same (any nation) they might not be able to cooperate long enough to get in the first crop.
Oh, well… if “a recent movie” said otherwise, I stand corrected! (not.)
If anyone has felt the intensity of the sun recently, or has seen the crispy, spotted, leaves on the dying trees around you (pretty much all of them), you’ll know that all bets are off.
In the past climate has changed, both slowly and “rapidly”. The current rapidity of change, however, is something like 1000x or several hundreds of times more rapid than at any time recognized in the past, that we know.
In the past, some species did make the leap to a new climate regime… but at a rate of change hundreds of times faster than that no complex species can be relied upon to effectively evolve: the change is taking place much faster now than a single generation can react (various bacteria will certainly persist to a degree, given a generational turnover of days as opposed to decades).
Please, I invite you to look at the trees in your neighborhood, wherever you are.
I’m in a northern rural area and I see almost no trees which could be called healthy. The role of trees in the hydrological cycle cannot be overstated: the death of trees means desertification, no ifs, ands, or buts.
“…prevent genetic degradation to idiocy.”
Ha!
Too late.
Warming denialists are in full force here, as elsewhere.
The Freak Flag of Idiocy flies high.
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What I find bizarre is the proposed idea that 300 (or whatever small # of) people potentially “re-populating” a mainly dead planet at some point in the future (they won’t, but let’s pretend) should somehow be satisfying to humans today. Those 300 (or whatever small number, should they persist) will simply restart anew the enzymatic breakdown of any existing energy gradients until exhaustion. The fossil fuels will no longer be there: too bad, so sad. Neither will there be fisheries or forests. No birds, no frogs, toads, snails, snakes.. not even a substantial number of insects. Too bad, so sad. For a short while there’ll be “human resources”. And then?
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I was just at the Maine shore mid-state this weekend. No sea-shore smell, no sea-shore birds, little sea-weed, no fish. One single crab carcass seen on my path over a 1000 ft. stretch of coastline or so, maybe a single handful of puny mussel shells along the same expanse, a small snail shell here or there. The rest just rocks upon rocks. I’ve lived in New England most of my life and never seen anything like it: never seen a Dead Seashore, or even imagined one, but this was it, far away from any built-up areas. The Ocean is basically No More, at least in that once-important zone.
Warming denialists, I feel certain, must be folks who live in cities and commute to and from an artificial work cube to an artificial living cube. Anyone with the interest and/or the means to spend any amount of time outside knows the real score: we are completely fucked.
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We are completely fucked and anyone knowingly bringing a child into the world at this point is guilty of abuse.
Downvote me as you will, but mark my words.
It’s called leaf scorch and it is the result of LAST years drought which was- for us at least- one of the worst in the past 100 years. That lowered our aquifers, thus leaving a void between the normal level of groundwater and the present level.
You pay attention to details, go out and look at the production of smaras and acorns and tell us if it is normal or unusual. What does that tell you about the tree?
I shall mark your words wrong.
Just because you notice something where you are does not equate to it happening everywhere. You are, quite literally, missing the forest for the trees.
I travel all over the country and the world for work and I do not see the end of life of which you speak. In fact, things look pretty good. It was raining to beat all in Missouri two weeks ago. On the east coast, too. I haven’t checked my acorns too closely around here, but I got plenty in my back yard. Last year was a short year for many of the trees I saw. (Mast is the heavy year, right?) But this summer the berries (mulberries, black raspberries, blackberries) were great (missed too many due to travel). The black walnuts were coming in just fine in Omaha, where I just visited last week. I have hawks flying around my neighborhood right now. I see deer spoor in the lush woods nearby. I am not seeing widespread death or doom at all.
Additionally, while I fear for my children and the world they shall inherit, I do not feel stupid for having them and I plan to arm them in all ways to be ready for the world as it is. I was afraid to have them and I agonized about the world, but I’m damn glad they’re here with me. They’re coming back from visiting their Babcia today and I can’t wait to see them.
rhs jr= I found your story fascinating but too brief. Would you please expand?
I certainly do believe in the possibility of supernatural incidents. I know people that I trust implicitly who have had similar incidents. I always find them interesting.
GDP, of course. Anything in particular? Michael was not a dream; I awoke as someone walked from the left end of my bed to the right and He was so big the ceiling was gone; I was almost immediately awake no doubt with my eyes wide and mouth open; it had to be supernatural and not some intruder. His speech was loud, angry and fast. I was listening and observing. He was in typical Roman armor with hard dark leather trapezoid plates sewn to a blood red “skirt”. His torso was covered with leather with a small round shield on His chest. He had no wings or sword. He had leather plates protecting His shoulders, arms and shins. My daughter suddenly came from the left also and she looked a lot like my Father-in-Law but sounded like my daughter Tammy. I immediately remembered everything about my wife’s miscarriage and I was stunned many ways at once (fear, shock, broken heart): the real Michael from the real God angry at me come to Earth to chew me out; and a daughter that God said I killed who loved me then poof they were gone. I felt so awful I fell on the floor and cried so hard. That gave me a lot to think about; God knows everything, even our “unconscious” thoughts. I see that am accountable for not stopping Sylvia from getting the IUD; and probably a lot of things on Earth.
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Nothing like an abortion “discussion” to get people’s panties all discombobulated!
My panties are fine, btw.
Let’s do this again sometime. It was fun!
Abstinence works.
I find it fascinating that commenters here say some tattooed freak shouldn’t be allowed to exist, but then hate a woman who, if forced to have a child she doesn’t want, would raise that child to know that they were unwanted, unloved and not worthy of her attention — to the point where that child would grow into a troubled adult just like the ones you post and declare superiority over.
Good to see there are voices of reason here, however.