Shootings: Why Don’t Schools Have Better Security?

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Whenever there is a mass shooting in the media, commentators rush to figure out on what to blame the latest violence. Predictably, those who want gun control blame gun control. Others blame mental illness — and perhaps a lack of government programs related to it. Some others blame racism or ideology, as was the case with the Aurora theater shooting when one ABC talking head concluded the shooter must a “Tea Party” member within hours of the shooting. And then there’s the Republican politician who blamed the same shooting on “the ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs.”

The odds of dying in a mass shooting remain amazingly small, as Healthline notes “The lifetime risk of dying in a mass shooting is around 1 in 110,154 — about the same chance of dying from a dog attack or legal execution.”

Nevertheless, the need to create a theory showing exactly what causes these shootings remains strong in many observers. Often, these theories are followed up with some demand for a change in public policy, whether it be gun control, more health care spending, or changes in education and social policy.

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What all of the strategies have in common, however, is that they depend on very indirect solutions related to social engineering while ignoring the most proximate cause of the tragedies in question.

Those who think they can abolish school shootings with gun control, for example, must also then ensure that weapons cannot be attained by illegal means, and that potential murderers will not accomplish the same ends by using other improvised weapons.

Similarly, those who think that addressing mental illness must also assume that all potential perpetrators will receive treatment.

Even more fanciful is the idea that the FBI and other police agencies can be counted on to competently profile, and observe every potential shooter. The FBI’s record in this regard is rather sub-par, to say the least.

Moreover, these policies can take years to be implemented, and also require extremely broad, hard-to-enforce changes in policy. These policies also bring with them considerable downsides to the public at large in terms of financial costs and in civil liberties. Expanding FBI power to impose surveillance on every weirdo in America comes at a cost. Banning weapons — and then enforcing that ban — comes at immense cost as well.

In practice, the most practical strategy is preventing homicidal people from entering schools with weapons is to take a direct approach to preventing this sort of activity.

We already see this logic at work in airline safety, for example.

Yes, the logic is lost on some people, as in the people the spread around this meme:

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The implication is that a nationwide gun ban works like a box-cutter ban. But the error here should be obvious. Box cutters and liquids were banned from commercial airplanes. Nearly 100% of adult Americans still own bottles of liquids and knife-like objects such as box cutters. And, virtually no one calls for a nationwide ban on box cutters or even on all substances that might be used to make bombs.

This is because many people recognize such broad solutions place significant burdens on society overall.

Just as the key to keeping hijackers on planes is to keep hijackers off planes, the key to keeping killers out of schools is to keep them out of schools.

For some odd reason, however, there continues to be resistance to the idea of developing serious, meaningful security strategies that directly address the situations that lead to deaths in areas such as schools, nightclubs, and hotels.

Mostly, this is due to nostalgia and fears of hurt feelings.

We’ve heard it all many times, of course. We can’t have greater security in schools, hotels, and shopping centers because “they will feel like prisons” or “kids will be hurt psychologically” or “it’s too expensive.”

When the rare tragedy of this nature does occur, though, these lines of thinking all lead to the same scenario: explaining to a child with a gunshot wound: “sorry kid, we could have had armed security personnel at your school, but we didn’t want you to feel bad.”

The “too expensive” excuse is especially galling since public schools are absolutely laden with non-teaching, administrative personnel unrelated to classroom instruction. As this study shows, since 1970, the student population has increased 8 percent while the non-teacher staff population has increased 130 percent. Gee, where could we ever find the resources for more security personnel?

Leave it up the people at The Nation, however, to call for less security at schools, because that money is being “diverted” from education.

To be fair to the authors, however, they do make two good points. The first is that the number of people who are murdered at schools nationwide is extremely low. Secondly, the article correctly notes that a lot of the money being spent on security is really just for show.

For example, while spending on “security” at schools has increased considerably in recent years, most of that money is spend on cheap quick-fixes like security cameras. Some spending is done on controlling access, but little is spent on competent on-site personnel and other strategies. The conclusion to draw from these fact, though, is not that money spent on security is necessarily wasted. It’s just being spent badly.

Even worse, though, is the dismissal of security measures because they conflict with someone’s (usually incorrect) notions of what things were like in the good old days. “My grandpa never had security at his school” is a common thought. Well, maybe grandpa should have, since data suggests homicide rates in the 1920s and early 30s were considerably higher than they are today.1

One’s feelings about the days of yore and how the world ought to be are not a great basis for taking practical steps toward increasing security.

In the real world, if school shootings really are a concern, then entrepreneurs and consumers need to work together to find practical, affordable strategies that can be implemented.

Real experience suggests, however, that consumers don’t really care that much about it. Oh sure, people say they’re very concerned about it, but their demonstrated preference is usually toward cheaper tuition or keeping their kids in public schools where the administration is more concerned with hiring another guidance counselor than with investigating practical security options. If people were really concerned about it, we’d see a mass exodus of students from public schools with lackluster security measures. We don’t see that — and maybe people really do recognize how low the odds really are.

This lack of concern is also why many hotels — like the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas — can’t be bothered with implementing meaningful security. Customers are more concerned with keeping their weekend getaways cheap, and just trusting to luck that nothing bad will happen. Steve Wynn has noted that his hotels do in fact impose surveillance on customers in the name of security — something that has been unnoticed by consumers.

But, until enhanced security becomes something that is truly demanded by both voters and consumers, we won’t see much of it. People, apparently prefer what security experts call the “security roller coaster“: panic, forget, repeat.

  • 1. “Homicide Trends in America: 1850-1950,” Megan Sasinoski. See page 30. (http://repository.cmu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1137&context=hsshonors)
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Card802
Card802
February 15, 2018 4:53 pm

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Shazaam
Shazaam
February 15, 2018 5:13 pm

Armed staff would be an effective and relatively inexpensive solution.
Enough of these “gun-free zones”. Every single politician & most Hollywood celebrities have more armed protection than most schools. Plus, armed staff may be a bit more flexible about threat detection and elimination than fancy metal detectors, etc.

Imagine the carnage if one of these suicidal cowards used a rental truck to run-down a crowd of school kids after calling-in a bomb threat to “encourage” the staff to herd all of the students & teachers out of the building(s) into vulnerable large groups milling around outdoors. Defenseless targets. In the open.

The only prerequisites for carnage on that scale is a phone, a simple credit card and a drivers license. Even a DACA “dreamer” could get one of those trucks legally in California.
No background check. No mental health check. They’ll happily rent a truck to Antifa / leftists / Democrats so long as their credit is just good enough.

Let’s see the Democrats raise the hue & cry to ban credit cards and drivers licenses. For the children.

starfcker
starfcker
February 15, 2018 5:13 pm

I like this article, and I like your set of facts, Jim. Better security probably is the answer. Ooooooh, But wait. That would probably involve employing big scary men. With guns

c1ue
c1ue
February 15, 2018 5:15 pm

There is a solution: ban all media mentions of school shootings.
There is a clear subset of people who want to kill themselves, but want to send a message first. The more the media attention, the stronger the push towards a larger or more sensational shooting.

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
  c1ue
February 15, 2018 10:39 pm

But that would be a violation of the 1st amendment which is untouchable. Unlike the 2nd amendment which is merely a suggestion.

The reason schools don’t take steps to protect themselves is that they are controlled by progressives. Progressives want to ban guns.

c1ue
c1ue
  Overthecliff
February 17, 2018 1:00 pm

There are plenty of precedents for such activities. The press is regularly barred from talking about national security events deemed too sensitive, for example.
As for schools and armed guards – frankly that is an idiotic solution right on par with the formation of DHS and the TSA. The actual spending on both of these enormous organizations plus the productivity loss from travel impediment has cost the United States hundreds of billions to trillions of dollars.
Put another way: armed guards at schools would get federalized into DHS at a drop of a hat. Do you really want DHS to have armed representatives and control over access to schools?
I sure don’t.
I also don’t want Blackwater, Xe or whatever its nom du jour is in charge.
If you want to prevent school shootings, ban guns. That will work.
If you don’t want to ban guns, ban any media mention of them. That will also work.
If you don’t want to ban guns or ban media attention, grin and bear it. It sucks but is sadly better than any other alternatives.

Unsurprising
Unsurprising
February 15, 2018 5:29 pm

CNN’s carefully crafted headline:

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Does he look like a white nationalist to you?

Is that what a racist looks like?

Great. Now we know:

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Uncola
Uncola
February 15, 2018 5:32 pm

School shootings may be an example of where a good defense would make the best offense.

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Uncola
Uncola
  Uncola
February 15, 2018 5:53 pm

The above strategy would also make any Minority Report “Pre-crime” social media prosecutions unnecessary; because the perps would be dealt with only after they revealed themselves.

Larry Dickman
Larry Dickman
February 15, 2018 5:46 pm

I have questions, petty, but questions nonetheless:

Why is there no bug eyed, red hair psychopathic picture of this kid a la Adam Lanza, James Holmes?
Why is his middle name not used as is typical? There are usually 3 names: James Earl Ray, Lee Harvey Oswald.
Why did he not kill himself?
Why put the FBI on it? They couldn’t catch two islamic snipers in DC.

unit472/
unit472/
  Larry Dickman
February 16, 2018 11:22 am

The FBI takes over these investigations so the public never learns any inconvenient facts about them. Like in Las Vegas you had the police chief perfectly willing to hold press conferences and tell the public what they had discovered even admitting they had gotten the time line wrong then some FBI special agent shows up and takes charge and its the last we hear of the ‘investigation’.

Colin
Colin
February 15, 2018 6:25 pm

I know this won’t be a popular comment, but I have to say that other countries don’t have this problem, even though we have a (comparative) terrorist problem, here in the UK.

Chances of being killed by a dog in UK: about 1/1000th of the number you quoted for the USA
Chances of execution: Nil (not since 1964)
Last school shooting massacre: 1996 – this was the turning point for eliminating/surrendering firearms.

Personally I thank God my kids have been able to grow up to young adults, and I think all kids should be able to do that. But some adults seem to think that this unnecessary loss is “acceptable” though they wouldn’t admit it to your face. Most problems aren’t “external” – they are “internal”.

Regards

wdg
wdg
  Colin
February 15, 2018 6:54 pm

What’s the homicide rate in North Dakota or Wyoming…about the same as it is across the border in Canada? It has something to do with demographics. As for this damaged young man going berserk in Florida and killing innocent people, we need to take a hard look at the breakdown of marriage and families and overall cultural/societal degradation. Focusing on instruments of killing tends to obscure the problem and distract from assessing the ultimate, fundamental cause. As for gun control, this would not help in the first place and, second, the right to bear arms is about something much more important than preventing random murders which is protecting our liberty and freedom against government tyranny. The death of 17 innocent people in Florida may sound like a large number but compared to the 66 million people who were murdered under Bolshevik tyranny, it hardly registers.

Unsurprised
Unsurprised
  Colin
February 15, 2018 7:36 pm

Hi Colin,

It could be because you all laid down your arms without a fight and so now your governments don’t need to use the Hegelian Dialectic (i.e. problem / reaction / solution) to push the gun control agenda in your countries because you are already slaves? Could that be why? Could it also be why the authorities in the UK won’t let you disparage Islam online? You and your family should just convert now. Why not save time?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/muslim-population-europe-rise-estimates-projections-stats-pew-research-center-a8085871.html

Jake
Jake
February 15, 2018 6:59 pm
MrLiberty
MrLiberty
February 15, 2018 7:27 pm

When was the last time there was a shooting/killing at a private school?

Seems the solution isn’t to ban guns, but to ban government monopoly day prisons – aka, da publik skools.

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RHS Jr
RHS Jr
  MrLiberty
February 15, 2018 7:34 pm

Higher IQ supervisors and employees are at the prisons. Prisons are not gun free zones, and Cruz could not have walked into a prison with a rifle and shot the place up. Besides, prisoners would make fools of stupid public school teachers.

Wip
Wip
  MrLiberty
February 15, 2018 8:24 pm

MrLiberty

True story…

I went to a private christian high school. It was a boarding school if that makes a difference. One day, I found out that another guy tried to kiss my girlfriend. I was talking shit all day about beating his ass. Sure enough we decided that we would meet up and fight at 10pm by sneaking out of the dormitory. My friend tried to talk me out of it but I wasn’t hearing it. Finally my friend said..let me go meet him for you and talk him down. My friend came back and told me not to go because the other guy had brought a rifle and was planning on shooting my ass.

Years later at an alumni weekend, one of the teachers I knew came up to me and asked if I had heard what happened to Eric. I had not heard. The teacher told me that Eric and his father were in prison because they opened fire during a bad drug deal. Turns out they were drug dealers and had killed several people. That’s the story I was told anyway.

This shit can happen anywhere.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Wip
February 15, 2018 10:46 pm

Indeed, at a boarding school seems much more likely. I could NEVER imagine something like that happening at the all-boys Catholic High School I attended. There were fights for sure, but fists only, and never that bad. Better behavior was simply expected of you. Sure, plenty of drugs and alcohol, but nothing that harmed others. But I do agree that it could happen anywhere…..BUT WHY does it only happen at government day prisons? That is the point. There is a distinct culture when everyone is FORCED to attend, and the system is premised on the violence of government theft and force. Add to that metal detectors, security cameras, and social media (although these schools were havens for violence well before social media) and the problems go through the roof. Also, parents in private schools know that it will impact them directly and financially if their child is kicked out, and when it comes to Catholic or other religious schools, often all the parents know each other so public humiliation also plays a big role in demands for good behavior by the parents. You only truly GET accountability when you empower it with direct financial responsibility. Something nobody really wants to face the truth of. Something that is “free” is of how much value???? Exactly.

Rdawg the fascist
Rdawg the fascist
  MrLiberty
February 15, 2018 10:52 pm

So at your Catholic school there was no:
authoritarian structure
dress code
emphasis on silence and order
negative reinforcement
walking in lines
loss of individual autonomy
abridged freedoms
lack of input in decision making
set times enforces for walking, eating, etc.

Is that your position?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Rdawg the fascist
February 16, 2018 12:32 pm

Attendance was by CHOICE, not force. And my mother was on the financial hook if I got kicked out. And I am personally NOT a fan of the way far too many private schools have willingly embraced much of the “public school” way of doing things.

Rdawg the fascist
Rdawg the fascist
  MrLiberty
February 16, 2018 9:57 pm

Artfully dodged the question(s).

Answer. The. Questions.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Rdawg the fascist
February 16, 2018 10:44 pm

Of course there was. But as I indicated, THEIR particular version of this structure was voluntarily accepted, and I do not feel that abiding by similar strict structure for a lot of things is the right way to educate children. I went to a Montessori that was far less structured, and there I skipped 2 grades and got a great education. Personally I think that homeschooling, more along the lines of un-schooling, is the optimum approach to teaching children HOW to learn and to foster their desire to learn.

Rdawg the fascist
Rdawg the fascist
  Rdawg the fascist
February 16, 2018 11:40 pm

So you posted a graphic comparing public schools to prison.

Then you extoll the virtues of private Catholic schools as a contrast to public schools.

Then you admit that Catholic schools have the very same undesirable elements as public schools.

Help a brother out. I mean, I think you’re trying to make the case that with public schools, you are required to attend, but have a choice with private school?

But the undesirable characteristics are exactly the same? I am confused.

Wip
Wip
  MrLiberty
February 16, 2018 12:21 am

Point taken.

Rwdg, it is a different environment given morality based on the Christian faith.

Maggie
Maggie
  MrLiberty
February 16, 2018 8:44 am

What is the difference in school and prison? No one can walk into a prison with a semi-automatic and shoot the prisoners.

RHS Jr
RHS Jr
February 15, 2018 7:32 pm

The Affirmative Action Superintendent was busy conducting Affirmative Action awards ceremonies; he had made the campus guns free and posted no guns allowed signs; another liberal Nobel Prize quality deep thinker.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
February 15, 2018 7:47 pm

It’s all touchy feely left wing anti gun bullshit . This “suspect” posted on some innernet access site Instagram whatever what amounts to be a threat to do just what he allegedly did . What do you know the FBI was not able to link it to any person or credible source for them to act . What do you bet if it were white supremeist person making a racially charged or anti gay threat the FBI would pull out all the stops and have the guy that sold him his computer held for questioning his parents and every Facebook friend etc…!
The more of these incidents happen to divert the news cycle attention the more suspicious I become of conspiritorial action marching us toward a NEW WORLD ORDER and Agenda 21 under the control of the deep state . I know several well trained retired people who would make great guards for schools and they have Enough experience under fire to take the shot . Oh my GUNS ON CAMPAS ??? Grow up lefty you support Israel , it works for them !

AC
AC
February 15, 2018 7:56 pm

Oddly, these things rarely happened in the late 1920s and early 1930s, when you could buy a Thompson machine gun – mail-order from Sears with, no ATF paperwork or background checks.

Perhaps something about the character of the society has changed? Is it the fact that the country was almost entirely white then, and isn’t now? That the shithole-Americans that have flooded into this nation have innate impulse-control issues?

Perhaps it is that the people controlling the government now are a foreign group that is hostile to us, imposing ‘cultural values’ that are the polar opposite of our values, and undertaking actions that are harmful to us at every opportunity – and this insane situation is literally driving people insane?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  AC
February 15, 2018 10:48 pm

The only major source of problems in the 20s and 30s was PROHIBITION and the black market crime it created. Of course that was all GOVERNMENT-CREATED, not something that just arose on its own.

Findlay Austin
Findlay Austin
  AC
February 16, 2018 3:14 am

Society is changing, if you are just an animal and there is no God you have to answer to then everything goes including deaths.

Wip
Wip
February 15, 2018 8:18 pm

IMO, there is only one solution…home school.

RHS Jr
RHS Jr
  Wip
February 15, 2018 8:36 pm

& Vouchers, Private and Charter Schools

Wip
Wip
  RHS Jr
February 15, 2018 9:52 pm

Nope. See my comment/experience about private high school.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Wip
February 15, 2018 10:49 pm

Indeed, at a boarding school seems much more likely. I could NEVER imagine something like that happening at the all-boys Catholic High School I attended. There were fights for sure, but fists only, and never that bad. Better behavior was simply expected of you. Sure, plenty of drugs and alcohol, but nothing that harmed others. But I do agree that it could happen anywhere…..BUT WHY does it only happen at government day prisons? That is the point. There is a distinct culture when everyone is FORCED to attend, and the system is premised on the violence of government theft and force. Add to that metal detectors, security cameras, and social media (although these schools were havens for violence well before social media) and the problems go through the roof. Also, parents in private schools know that it will impact them directly and financially if their child is kicked out, and when it comes to Catholic or other religious schools, often all the parents know each other so public humiliation also plays a big role in demands for good behavior by the parents. You only truly GET accountability when you empower it with direct financial responsibility. Something nobody really wants to face the truth of. Something that is “free” is of how much value???? Exactly.

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit
  RHS Jr
February 16, 2018 9:40 am

“Vouchers”, will those vouchers include only YOUR tax contribution that goes into the school budget, or do you want some of other people’s money too?

Rdawg the fascist
Rdawg the fascist
  MarshRabbit
February 16, 2018 10:02 pm

How about this: I have a kid. I want to have the kid educated. I pay for my kid’s education. End of story. You ain’t got to pay nuthin’; I don’t need you to, I don’t want you to.

It’s really that simple.

He needs braces? I gotta pay the man. He needs clothes? Pay the man. Food? Well, you get the picture.

Pay your fucking way would solve most, if not all of our problems.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Rdawg the fascist
February 16, 2018 10:48 pm

Which of course does NOT negate the presence of charity schools, private scholarship funds, etc. ALL paid for through VOLUNTARY contributions by those who wish to contribute, businesses who wish to contribute, etc. At least though this mechanism, the recipients would understand that they are the beneficiaries of the generosity of others….not simply folks who believe they are “deserving” or “entitled” or part of the public that simply MUST be educated in theft-based schools.

wholy1
wholy1
  Wip
February 15, 2018 9:05 pm

Hoo-wah.

yahsure
yahsure
February 15, 2018 8:40 pm

I guess I am one of those We didn’t have these problems when I was young kinda guys. I had guns and ammo under my bed since the fourth grade. If I had a problem with someone we had a fistfight and usually shook hands and laughed and became friends.
Whats changed? Our world has become a harsher and nastier place.I think TV and video games have caused a lot of it. As I have told my kids, Everything you experience goes into your head and has an effect on you. Your subconscious.

Richard
Richard
February 15, 2018 9:00 pm

The left has lost its mind

Fugitives/mentally ill/18 year-olds/people on terror watch lists can buy assault rifles w/ no background checks thanks to Trump gov’t. Yet Trump says it was students’ fault for not noticing Cruz was unstable. Protect the money…even at the cost of children’s lives. Despicable.

unit472/
unit472/
  Richard
February 16, 2018 11:26 am

It’s the Hippa laws Democrats passed to protect homosexuals with AIDS from being identified. That is why mental patients can buy weapons. Their mental illness only shows up on the gun data base if they have been declared legally insane..

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit
  unit472/
February 16, 2018 1:34 pm

So what database would identity everyone with a mental illness?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  MarshRabbit
February 16, 2018 10:51 pm

And who controls that database? And how do you dispute such a listing? Will it be as impossible to get off of as the “no-fly list” that even Ted Kennedy ended up on and couldn’t get off of (yes, save the Kennedy slams…just making a point)?

These are the very things that will keep folks from getting the help they may need. Actions always have unintended consequences.

wholy1
wholy1
February 15, 2018 9:04 pm

The resolution [for the awake] to this: HOMEschooling.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
February 15, 2018 9:44 pm

Cruz was living with another family since the death of his mother , no mention of a father ??? Young boys need a good mans influence hell , even a bad man that has learned the lessons the hard way can work ! Coming from a background where a few backhands and a forced sit down shut up works well too from a firm man . Not abusive just not putting up with your adolescent bull shit !
These men worked wonders for me , but they were men ! Not politically correct makeover metro sexual . The men that influenced me as a boy other than my father all stood for something larger than themselves . Family Honor Duty Country . Not a throw away in the bunch !

Wip
Wip
  Boat Guy
February 15, 2018 9:57 pm

True story

An African reserve was having a problem with elephants killing rinos. Turns out there were no older and mature elephants in the park. The solution to the problem with the young male elephants killing rinos was to bring some big mature male elephants into the park. Why? The adolescent elephants needed to be challenged by the big mature elephants. The killing of rinos stopped.

Westcoastdeplorable
Westcoastdeplorable
February 15, 2018 10:20 pm

We’re seeing a pattern here of people the FBI were alerted to or had interviewed then later committing some sorta terrorist act.
I would think school admins would be smart enough to start getting the idea of the “gun free zone” not being such a bright idea.
As for why, maybe they’re not that capable of problem solving. Sorta like the Swedes who can’t admit they have a refugee problem

RHS Jr
RHS Jr
  Westcoastdeplorable
February 16, 2018 12:33 am

Educators are the bottom of the Education Barrel, the Affirmative Action liberal dregs; and they get the Top Educators by scraping the very bottom of the Black College barrels.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
February 16, 2018 1:55 am

Security doesn’t mean SHIT when your own fucking government ARE the terrorists committing atrocities against it’s own people. Security is only what THEY tell you it will be.

Fucking Sandy Hook installed security cameras AFTER the supposed massacre and then tore the building down. Of course they didn’t really need cameras since it was a closed school used for storing extra stuff the district had an excess of but they went through the motions to impress the willfully ignorant sheople. SEE! Muh security cameras! We be proactive and shit! Look up where Robbie Parker is now. He works for SERCO/G4S. He was a deep state clown from day one and I doubt he ever had any kid at SH let alone one that was “killed”.

wholy1
wholy1
February 16, 2018 6:24 am

LOL – would not be surprised to learn that this “character” is blowing the likes of a NRV – No Redeeming Value – pukes like Sick Chaney or Michael Chertoff. EEEoooo! Why the HELLo are most RESPONSIBLE school instructors/faculty/support personnel NOT allowed to “PACK HEAT”?

Scott halloween
Scott halloween
February 16, 2018 8:42 am

The Dems were going to loose another election cycle when suddenly! A mass school shooting! Hey look we are relevant again…nothing too suspicious here at all.

Not Bob
Not Bob
February 16, 2018 12:42 pm

I don’t know why someone hasn’t pointed out the obvious answer.

We need BIGGER Gun Free Zone signs!

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i forget
i forget
February 16, 2018 1:16 pm

What causes them, in all variety, may be curious, interesting. But more interesting, curious, is the refusal to take the one step necessary to reducing, if not eliminating, the incentive: drop the idea of safe spaces via magic words – “firearms – & self-defense – illegal zone” — & pick up the idea that the world is real, danger is real – & is attracted to danger•dispenser danger-free zones — & that self-defense needs be decentralized & distributed as far down the granular gauntlet as possible.

Instead, the spectacle of massed\bunched militarized cops – tough guys in the minds of too many – creeping oh-so-slowly thru “schools” while murderers continue to empty mags.

In the novel “Unintended Consequences” “gotham” (cities) have been bigbro covered in sensors that triangulate gunfire down to a small footprint. No start at one end & work your way to the other bs. This tech has been around for some time, refined, but is not deployed in magic word safe space schools. (The workaround, in the novel, was bows & broadheads. Except for that Van Helsing flick, I’ve not seen a semi\automatic bow.) But even if it were deployed, whatcha’ gonna’ do about the oh-so saaaaafety conscious toughguys in military gear? The cops have no duty to defend or protect mundanes, you know. The self-defense mindset & the tools need to be there already, lying in wait…it’s the boy scout way.

No safe rooms, panic rooms, or impregnable doors, in classrooms, either. Safety is not the point. Setting up, fixes put in, is the point. But bank tellers, etc – & all that fiat cash — are behind bulletproof plex.

After that nutjob poisoned some Tylenol bottles, sealed & tamper evident packaging became normalized pretty quick. But psychochildproof capping in “schools”? Nah.

But. Big but. Bertha Butt. “Schools” are not for children. Schools are for the state. & the state couldn’t care less about the kids in them, except as means to ends. (Caring teachers, administrators, are still just cogs of states, & so superfluous.) And having them slaughtered on the 6 o’clock news contributes to those ends.

“Civilized” (domesticated, neutered) people will watch the child soldiers in Africa, S. America, etc & tut-tut. “How horrible.” Never recognizing that gi joe & gi citizen – most definitely including the children, who are numbered at birth & thrown into indoctrination not long after that – are one & the same. All war, all the time – beginning “at home” & projecting outward into the larger world from there. All that varies is temperature. The parents who regift the gift that keeps on keeping states on? Lukewarm, at best – just slightly above room temp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunfire_locator

Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
February 16, 2018 9:53 pm

I chose to send my 4 kids to a Catholic school through 8th grade, primarily to try to ensure that faith was a primary focal point in their development through their most formative years. Based on observations from my youth, I found that getting them through 8th grade with as strong as a foundation as possible would take care of a lot of things, later on … I figured we’d release them to the “real world” of public school in 9th grade as an introduction to the cold, cruel world they would ultimately have to face.

Once my oldest two made the transition to public school, I was shocked to realize the difference in overall approaches of the two systems. Any minor issues or suggestions that I might approach the Catholic school administration with were at least enthusiastically considered, if not embraced. Similar infrequent inquiries or requests of public school administration were met with a combination of contempt, disdain and/or apathy.

Overall, the Catholic school administration has take a common-sense approach to making the educational experience the best it can be, while the public school administration simply takes a CYA approach, so as not to ruffle any feathers and promote the pathetic agenda that is part and parcel of the USA these days.

In the realm of common sense in these crazy times, our PRIVATE Catholic school is not beholden to these B.S. no gun-free zones and we have a former police officer packing heat, to try to minimize the risks that have been front and center recently.

That being said … if the public schools would ever have the guts to think about doing the right thing and having an armed presence on school premises, the inept bureaucracy would probably fuck it up royally by hiring based on some type of non-merit based system. The public schools would be more focused on trying to hire enough left-handed, Sagittarian, Swahili lesbians without regard to whether they could actually protect the students (and they would probably insist on hiring twice as many such resources as necessary).

No wonder this country is so fucked-up!!!

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
February 16, 2018 10:55 pm

Just gotta watch out for the priests. And yes, I did attend a Catholic High School and many years later I found out that a priest there was accused of sexual misconduct at the time I was attending. I knew the priest, never heard anything at the time, never saw anything, but only heard talk about a student and a male, non-priest teacher. But I will agree that the school was far better, far safer, and far more interested in meeting the needs of their customers than any government school will EVER be.