Doug Casey on the Coming Comfortable Dystopia

Via Casey Research

Justin’s note: Imagine not being able to board a plane because you forgot to pay your water bill… or being denied access to a train because you jaywalked.

It sounds like something ripped from the pages of George Orwell’s 1984. But this will soon become reality for people living in China. That’s because the Chinese government is getting ready to roll out a social credit system.

Basically, the Chinese government will soon prevent people from accessing everyday services if they aren’t deemed “good citizens.”

It’s one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever read. Still, most readers won’t care about this. That’s because “this sort of thing could never happen in America!”

Unfortunately, that couldn’t be further from the truth. As you’re about to see, the United States could soon adopt its own social credit system. So be sure to read today’s interview closely…

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Justin: Doug, I have a lot of questions I want to ask you today. But can you first tell me what a social credit system is?

Doug: Well, Americans are familiar with credit ratings that they get from companies like Experian. These ratings judge one’s ability to get credit, pay bills and such.

China is rolling out something similar, but vastly more comprehensive, and on a national scale. They’ll judge much more than your financial capabilities. It rates people based on where they live, what kind of car they drive, what they say or do on social media, their educational background, their political views, their friends. You name it. Social engineers are quite devious about these things.

And it’s fiendishly clever for the Chinese government to do this. A high social score gives a citizen lots of benefits and privileges. A low score penalizes you in many ways. People will start competing to be good little lambs. It gives them complete control over who can do what.

Justin: How can people defend themselves from this? Is there any way to opt out?

Doug: You could decide to not have an electronic presence, of course. You could disconnect, or go off the grid as they say. But that’s the equivalent of becoming a non-person. You’d be branded as antisocial, suspicious, and a possible enemy of the state. It might bring all sorts of disadvantages, like not being able to get a passport or even a driver’s license.

Justin: Yeah, not being able to board a plane or train due to a bad social credit rating is already terrifying. But I’m wondering how far China’s government will take this.

Doug: Well, I haven’t been to China in several years. So, I’m relying on press reports. But they’re saying that there are already millions of people involved in China’s social credit system, and it’s quite believable. This is happening already—it’s not science fiction.

And neither is it surprising. China’s very computerized; most people now use their smartphones, not credit cards or—god forbid, cash—to pay for things. Just as in the US, where many people Google others to find out about them, so do the Chinese.

This is a computer-driven phenomenon, and therefore advancing at the rate of Moore’s Law. The phenomenon will get much bigger. And not just in China.

It will impact whether people get jobs or promotions. It will quickly find its way into online dating. People with low social credit ratings will be looked upon as deadbeats. Others will disconnect from them, because having a link with someone of low rank will reduce your own rank.

In brief, this is a very big deal. I recommend the episode “Nosedive” on the series Black Mirror, where we see what happens to a woman who gets caught in a downward spiral for her social credit score.

Justin: Will other countries adopt their own social credit systems?

Doug: I have no doubt that the United States and most other countries will do this. It’s a fantastic tool for controlling the masses—they’ll control each other. Much more effective than having secret police, although every government either has, or will have them. And cheaper, too. If you’re the kind of person that fancies himself as a rugged individual it’s a scary prospect. Most people won’t care, though. They won’t mind living in a Dystopia, as long as it’s reasonably comfortable.

Justin: How could this happen in the States? Will the US government herd people into this system? Or will the average person check themselves into this digital prison?

Doug: Well, I must say that the US government doesn’t have the same control over its people as the Chinese government, although it’s moving in that direction. The TSA will likely subject you to more, or less, screening based on your score. The IRS more, or less, scrutiny of your finances. The same with the police, prosecutors, and what-have-you, right down to your local DMV.

It could take longer for them to roll out something like this. But the US government loves this idea. It’s the best idea since everyone got a Social Security number—for them.

We’re already seeing indications of this. For example, if you have Global Entry, your hassle while traveling is reduced. But they interview you and look at your records before granting it, allowing you to come and go from the US with less aggravation than the average person.

I think Americans will jump into this for the same reason that they opt for frequent flyer programs. They love their smartphones; they practically live on the damn things. Having a high social credit rating will be a prestige thing. It will offer benefits in the way having a high credit rating with Experian helps you secure a lower interest rate on your mortgage—but much, much more so.

This is the wave of the future. Personally, I don’t like it at all. Not because I have something to hide. I’m sympathetic to the Randite motto: “Judge, and prepare to be judged.” But I prefer to determine my own criteria—not have some bureaucrats do it for me. And enforce that on society.


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billy bob
billy bob
April 3, 2018 11:16 am

once established, these systems will be adopted by those who own nothing, to give themselves the illusion of status.

it is already creeping in with your uber rating, if you own a smart phone and rent other peoples cars.

and, without a doubt, there will be mechanisms in place to “fix” you poor social score, for a nominal fee.

question is, how long will outsiders (aka no smart phone/facebook/etc) be allowed to exist before basics (like electric, food, internet access) become linked to social credit scores.

P.S. I loved that black mirror episode, there is another one called metal head, about electronic dogs, another great plot that will probably become reality.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  billy bob
April 3, 2018 11:43 am

They already have a robot dog way to similar. 2 great visions of a not so great future. Both have a path to the end of dissent.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  billy bob
April 3, 2018 12:36 pm

Fixing your social score will probably work as well as fixing your credit score – not at all.

rainbird
rainbird
April 3, 2018 11:53 am

The decline in the available energy might throw a monkey wrench into the plans for the electronic dystopia.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
April 3, 2018 12:32 pm

What seems related to this social credit scoring (and credit scoring in general) is the vast population of people who are seemingly incapable of staying on the good side of the law, even as it relates to traffic offenses, fines, etc. There are tens of millions of people – many with minor mental illnesses, alcoholism and chemical dependency and plain imbeciles who are barely capable of feeding themselves, bathing and wearing clean clothes. For these people, maintaining car insurance, paying for tabs for their license plates, paying parking tickets before they go to collections is beyond their capability. They lose their drivers licenses so they can’t hold a job. Their abysmal credit scores preclude them from even renting a studio apartment. It’s a downward spiral from which they can’t extricate themselves. In years gone by a person’s fuckups didn’t adhere so stickily to them, so the hapless idiots could periodically secure a job and housing. With computer systems as they are now, your fuckups are visible forever and a big chunk of the population can’t adapt to what’s coming. It seems to me anyway.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 3, 2018 1:13 pm

“…god forbid, cash—to pay for things. Just as in the US, where many people Google others” Google is capitalized but not God in his statement. He is no different than those commies he despises. This is just them getting us ready for the mark. The “mark” that is spoken about in the Bible. Prophecy coming true right here, right now and right in front of us. We have been warned and Casey sees it but just can not put 2 and 2 together. He can not do basic maff but yet wants to sell financial wisdom. I’ll pass.

Wip
Wip
  Anonymous
April 3, 2018 2:28 pm

Yep, the mark.

Lowercase God and uppercase google…too sad.

rhs jr
rhs jr
April 3, 2018 3:38 pm

Not with this pernicious Communist Government (ref Harpy, Blow Job Bill, Hussein, Nancy & Chucky, Maxine, Jesse, Booker, Harris, Rangel, Franks, Ellison, Johnson, Lawson, Lee, Wilson, etc) giving me a civics grade (like the Communist FSU Professor that kicked me out of class and gave me an F for asking a perfectly reasonable question, piss be on him). I will not be herded like a lamb to slaughter by wolves ever again. Never Again.

Uncola
Uncola
April 3, 2018 4:33 pm

Speaking of the Black Mirror series on Netflix – for most viewers, if they can get past the disturbing conceptual content of season 1, episode 1, they will likely find all remaining seasons to be simultaneously thought-provoking, enjoyable, and concerning in philosophically challenging ways.

Overall, the series illustrates technological fuckery at its finest; and modernity on steroids. It’s a little Huxley, with a dash of Orwell, and a pinch of Jetsons thrown in for good measure.

Luminae
Luminae
  Uncola
April 3, 2018 4:59 pm

CZ is right. I’m sorry to say it’s more thought provoking than Twilight Zone.

Luminae
Luminae
  Luminae
April 3, 2018 5:02 pm

UC….not CZ…phat phingers…..

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
April 4, 2018 1:41 am

Greetings,
I too am a big fan of Black Mirror. Just a quick thought, these rating systems are both good and bad. For one, I am pleased with my long history with ebay and my perfect string of stars. Even though I do not sell or buy much on ebay these days someone can still look me up and see that I am a good person to do business with. It can mean the difference between getting a sale or not getting the sale. Also, were I an Uber or Lyft driver then I’d want to know if the person that just requested a ride from me was some idiot asshole. That holds true with Airb&b as well. I can really see the value in these limited voluntary systems.