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diogenes
diogenes

tRumpateers need to learn to differentiate between words (hot air) and actual results.

D-O-N…A-L-D…T-R-U-M-P

$=1 to $=0 Boom Boom Boom

Francis Marion

It’s funny that people think Trump cares about the NPP. I doubt he gives a rats ass.

Everytime something doesn’t follow the narrative we think Trump has failed. But has he?

What was the point of this exercise?

To remove NK as a threat to global stability and to deescalate military activity in the region. Has that been achieved?

Are American and SK’n troops in the region winding up exercises or winding down? Remember the piece I posted last week about the US removing bombers from their exercises as sign of good faith towards NK?

Has NK’s ability to deliver nukes been eliminated? Are they continuing with the program? From ZH this morning:

“North Korea Dismantles Nuke Test Site Amid “Eruptions Of Earth And Rock”, There’s Just One Thing…”

“Having reportedly seen 200 North Koreans die following the collapse of a tunnel at the Punggye-ri nuclear test site earlier in the year, Kim Jong-Un has officially (and intentionally) imploded the mountain-side facility overnight….Kim then – coincidentally – shifted to his current position of agreeing to dismantle the highly unstable site and began to break down the the facility’s infrastructure…. Significant changes took place at the North and South Portals between April 20 and May 7 consistent with site closing….. And now, having apparently completed its tear-down phase, RT reports that North Korea officially demolished the test-site overnight, inviting a number of reporters to witness the event…. North Korea’s nuclear weapons institute said on Thursday that Pyongyang was committed to helping build a nuclear-free world.”

“However, there’s just one thing that few are talking about. As The Telegraph reports, “North Korea has designated remote Chagang Province as a Special Songun [military-first] Revolutionary Zone, fueling suspicions that the region is being turned into a mountain redoubt for the regime’s atomic weapons and missile programs despite Pyongyang’s promises to scrap its nuclear arsenal.” More:

Officials of the Ministry of State Security were informed of the new designation in April, the Seoul-based Daily NK news outlet reported, quoting a high-ranking source in Pyongyang.

The region will become “a strategic foothold for the military in the face of modern warfare”, the source said, adding that the ministry had decreed “the project must go forward without any issues because Kim Jong-un was doing it out of respect for his father’s and grandfather’s legacies”.

Covering more than 6,400 square miles on North Korea’s border with China, fully 98 percent of Chagang is mountainous, meaning it is relatively sparsely populated and has plenty of opportunities for underground excavations to conceal stockpiles of weapons and facilities to conduct further research. One could be forgiven for thinking the implosion in Punggye-ri is nothing but a distraction, since as far back as 2013, South Korea’s National Intelligence Service warned in a report that Kim Jong-un had ordered that the domestic munitions industry be moved underground to protect it from observation and attack.

“Most of the facilities are located in Chagang Province and other remote inland areas and are partially or wholly underground to minimise damage in war”, the report said, identifying factories No. 65 and No. 81 in the city of Junchon, Chagang Province.

Intelligence reports stated that “Emergency shelters are under construction near factories and plants and mobilisation plans for persons and materials have already been completed to assure continued production even through the fires of war”.

Furthermore, steps beyond dismantling Punggye-ri will be needed to demonstrate a bona fide commitment to denuclearize, said David Albright, founder of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington.

“Closing the Punggye-ri underground test site, while welcome, is not sufficient,” Mr. Albright said.”

Interesting that plans for the new facility are parked along the Chinese border. With it’s nuke program in tatters it would take decades to rebuild and the focus is on ‘modern warfare’.

Modern warfare is not nuclear warfare – see the current ME – specifically Syria – for what that means over the past year or so.

My prediction based on available evidence and trends throughout the rest of the world is that NK and SK are being set up to become a sovereign trading block with links to both western and eastern markets. Trump does not want regime change there – what he wants is strong leadership and for the country to remain sovereign. Weak men do not lead sovereign nations that share borders with countries like China.

NK is being set up to succeed, not to fail. As such KJU is a male peacock displaying his tail.

In pulling out of the talks DJT admin distances themselves from NK’s affairs and hands them back their sovereignty after destroying their nuclear capabilities.

Peace through strength has to work both ways (or at least have appearances of doing so). Then comes trade and prosperity for everyone.

That’s my theory.

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia

Talking with your enemies is never a bad thing. But for neocons like Bolton, having enemies is what makes the world go around and keeps our tax money flowing to the military-industrial complex.

Without enemies and wars Bolton would have to spend his time grooming his mustache.

Zarathustra

“We came, we saw, he died,” an utterance that will live in infamy.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran

Same answer to this as everything else:
“So we’ll see what happens”. – Trump

JustTruth
JustTruth

Clutching defeat from the jaws of victory. What a fucking embarrassment, and such lack of sincerity and resolve!

Those living in deep cognitive dissonance will view every Trump action as 20D chess, as if Trump is smarter than his adversaries. That is not the case folks. Just like the Left with their identity politics BS, another form of cognitive dissonance.

Trump will win when he acts in truthful, noble way and inspires and leads us by his example for aims we know to be good, and in the interests of Americans and humanity. I voted for the man,I know well how to negotiate in business, and I hate HRC and the Deep State with all my heart. But Trump to date for me is a failure, except for regulation elimination. The man has exhibited a low grade character, low grade moral compass and absence of integrity. He is literally getting his ass handed to him by foreign competitors and his own appointees, who we presume are undermining him at every turn (hard to know the truth when the very people he appoints over and over again stick knives in his back every week, maybe daily- is he that stupid?).

It is obscenely stupid and insincere to try to enter a sensitive, strategic negotiation with a foreign, sovereign country that has nucs with pre-conditions. We all know that. When acting in good faith, each side starts a dialogue with its asks, and then horse trades back and forth to try to find a reasonable landing spot to conclude an agreement. Any good agreement will have pain involved for both sides, as well as upside. See Iran nuc agreement.

Trump now setting up continuous provocative, stupid war footing with NK, Iran, Syria and pissing off EU, Russia, China and most of world with threats and trade war talk. He will be the ultimate war president, apparently his only way to politically cover the the calamity coming our way.

Trump strikes me as a hot air balloon in flight, never knowing where the wind will take it. Meanwhile the US continues to support the slaughter of more millions of innocent human beings in ME.

IndenturedServant

“The man has exhibited a low grade character, low grade moral compass and absence of integrity.”

Examples for all three? With sauce please.

Perhaps when Trump gets done with MAGA you’ll realize he’s a better negotiator than you could ever imagine?

Before getting involved in politics you have to admit Trump led a pretty clean private and business life. The entirety of the deep state couldn’t dig up any significant dirt on him. Certainly not enough to prevent his election. That comes from Trump not fucking everyone over in the deals he negotiates. The best deals are those that both sides walk away from feeling like they’ve won. Everybody gets something they want or need without being humiliated or having to do nefarious shit in return for it. Trump is a leader and a statesman that knows its far more economical and fair and even fun to *freely* work together toward mutually beneficial goals that it is to blackmail, bribe, corrupt and make war on the fucking world to TAKE what you want.

Trump is a good man, the right man and maybe the only fucking man to excise the deep state from our world. He’s not working alone by any means but the right guy is where he needs to be. The deep state wasn’t built in a day. It will likely take a few decades to get it done completely. I think the midterms are going to be overwhelmingly red this year ensuring a wave of conservative appointments that will see a big acceleration in swamp drainage. Once the sanitizing light of day has been shone on the deep states true nature, that should ensure the demoncrat (literally) party dies forever. Not that something won’t rise to replace it but the people are going to finally have a chance to prevail.

IndenturedServant

I think we’re ALL going to be a bit surprised by the “deliberate pull out” of talks with Un.

Q !xowAT4Z3VQ ID: 5086f0 No.1218299 ?
Apr 27 2018 22:52:40 (EST)
Peace on the Korean Peninsula isn’t big news?
Should we drop a #MOAB on that?
Timetables shift.
[Next Week].
Q

Methinks MOAB is inbound. Could be a set up of MSM for interfering in foreign diplomacy. Lying fake news.

Enjoy the show.

IndenturedServant

test http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2018/05/25/34/0401000000AEN20180525001852315F.html

N. Korea says open to talks with U.S. anytime

2018/05/25 07:55

SEOUL, May 25 (Yonhap) – A top North Korean official said Friday his country is still willing to talk with the U.S., responding to President Donald Trump’s abrupt decision to pull out of his planned summit with the North’s leader.

Vice Foreign Minister Kim Kye-gwan issued a statement carried by the North’s state-run Korean Central News Agency (KCNA). It came hours after Trump announced the surprise decision to withdraw from his summit with Kim Jong-un set for June 12.

“We express our willingness to sit down face-to-face with the U.S. and resolve issues anytime and in any format,” he said in the statement.

Kim said that the U.S.’ unilateral decision to cancel the upcoming talks demonstrates how serious the animosity between the North and the U.S. remains, which he said underlines the urgent need of a summit between the leaders of the two countries.

“Our commitment to doing our best for the sake of peace and stability for the world and the Korean Peninsula remains unchanged, and we are open-minded in giving time and opportunity to the U.S.,” he said.

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IndenturedServant

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IndenturedServant

Anons, did you catch this little exchange at the end of POTUS’ speech?

POTUS said “The dialog was going really well with Kim Jung Un until recently, I think I understand why that happened.”

Reporter ask: “Why, what happened?”

Potus: “I won’t say, some day I’ll give it to you, you can write about it in a book .”

I love this man! lmao

Not Sure

A good rule of thumb in this current state of affairs is to wait 24 hours before making comments, otherwise you will end up looking like CNN, who regularly attack anything the president does, only to have it fly back in their face as fake news, 24 hours later.
A good summation I heard was that China thought that Trump was as desperate for the Nobel peace prize as Obama would have been, so to make Trump kowtow to them, pulled the string of the little dictator and pulled the rug out from under the summit organizers. Trump being savy and not really caring about losing a meaningless medal, shut the process down, making NK and China appear on the world stage as spoiled kids in stopping a historic summit.
Now they appear to be backtracking. Another win for Trump.
Oh, wait a minute, I’m not following my own advice; I should have waited 24 hours before this latest news. Oh well, never mind, I think the talks will continue and score another victory for the Pres.
Moral of the story:wait and don’t be a Schummer, Pelosi or a Feinstein in laughing at Trump; the last laugh will be on you.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Same shit, different day…..yawn.

IndenturedServant

From an anon on 8chan:

President Trump spelled Kim Jong Un’s name 2 different ways today on Twitter.

Kim Jung Un then Kim Jong Un

Jung in Korean means A Friend that you deeply care about (no english equivalent )

Jong in Korean means Slave.

President Trump was declaring his friendship with Kim, letting him know Kim was being freed – a Jung not a Jung to President Trump.

Brilliant and Beautiful

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