Does our country run the risk of a civil war? Is such a horrible event even possible today?
The answers are “Yes” and “Yes.” Furthermore, a case can be made that we are already in such a civil war.
I received the following via email. The main piece was written by Jack Minzey, a person I was unfamiliar with. His take on this issue seems unique and accurate! According to him, we are already in a Civil War whether we recognize it or not.
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Recently Jack Minzey sent what was to be the final chapter in the long line of books and treatises which he had written. Jack passed away Sunday, 8 April 2018. Professionally, Jack was head of the Department of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein. This is the last of his works:
Civil War
How do civil wars happen?
Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can’t settle the question through elections because they don’t even agree that elections are how you decide who’s in charge. That’s the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.
The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it’s not the first time they’ve done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn’t really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There’s a pattern here.
What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election that they don’t win. It means they don’t believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.
That’s a civil war.
There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.
This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship.
Your very own dictatorship.
The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it’s inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can’t scratch his own back without his say so, that’s the civil war.
Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that’s not the system that runs this country. The Democrat’s system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.
If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He’s a dictator.
But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can’t do anything. He isn’t even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has ‘discretion’ to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn’t even have the ‘discretion’ to reverse him. That’s how the game is played That’s how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn’t yet won that particular fight.
When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren’t even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn’t allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.
The Constitution has something to say about that.
Whether it’s Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.
Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can’t serve in if you’re not a member. If you haven’t been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren’t in the club. And Trump isn’t in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren’t in the club with him.
Now we’re seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.
That’s not a free country.
It’s not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an ‘insurance policy’ against Trump winning the election. It’s not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It’s not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It’s not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn’t supposed to win did.
Have no doubt, we’re in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.
If the late Mr. Minzey is correct, it is only a matter of time before current conditions turn violent or parts of the country attempt to secede.
The divisions are so pronounced that it is difficult to see how they are solved within the current political framework and consistent with our Constitution.
Secession by default will occur slowly when the fiscal realities of federal spending hit a brick wall, and Washington has no option but to turn once federally-mandated and funded agencies, e.g., the EPA, Education, Energy, HHS, etc., back to states. (“You want environmental oversight? Good, then you fund it.”)
In a sense, secession by nullification is already occurring, such as states’ enacting marijuana legislation that the federal government opposes but won’t spend the resources on enforcing. One can foresee a steady trickle of erosion against federal law taking shape and building momentum as taxpayers revolt and tell their elected state officials (through elections), what they want.
We’re an irreconcilably divided country.
Something that began under Clinton and was made permanent under Obama.
When two sides go up against each other, only one remains when it’s over.
Choose your side, if you haven’t already, and stand behind it til the end.
It’s not “another” civil war. It will be the 3rd war of independence. Let the statist talk their fuzzy language. We sovereign individuals need to speak-and think- with crystal clear clarity. And it doesn’t necessarily have to be bloody-assuming they’re content to go their way and let us go ours. Not a likely scenario but one worth hoping for.
Whatever side the Zionazis are on, I’m on the other. If they are on both sides, then I’m sitting this one out and hoping everybody loses.
No one sits a civil war out unless they flee to a foreign country and stay there, choose your side. You’ll live with the results whether you like it or not.
But I suppose you would prefer to flee to Iran than to fight for America.
WTF does Iran have to do with this discussion??
A cheap shot. It’s what dumbfuks do when they have no argument.
That email fairly well sums up the so-called alt-right view that the mainstream GOP cannot win because they try to follow the rules while their opponent ignores the rules entirely. I suppose it’s not so much different from the rest of the leftist ideaology where some groups are more equal than others if it suits them.
Agreed we are in a cold civil war. The country needs to split up. Bet it ends up with terrorist type attacks for a while. Then kind of like the Middle East but with an American flair. The government cannot be taken on with a hope of victory without outside help. Say Russia or China.
So it’s the Clinton/ Obama fans against the Trump and alt -right? Planet Hollywood does the CW2?
More people will sit this one out than participate if that is the case. Maybe Kanye, Kim and Roseanne will save us……….
Maybe Q has already ended the CW2 and you just can’t see it yet.
People can do what ever they want. I just don’t want to pay for it.
I say, bring it on. Things are too fixed now to change them in any reasonable way. Whatever makes things finally move; to stay in this impasse is death.
As I mentioned in other post comments,fight like hell cold war now,cut the cable,stop using fakebook,twaddle ect. to best of ability,support sites/ business you agree with/try and where possible be more self sufficient,a lot we can do really starve the opposition.
Would be good to have enuff in common goal wise for future or it will be all for naught.
We live in interesting times…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NanumqpBDtA
The First War of Southern Independence failed but the causes remained, and they have now become causes for most of the West and areas between the Coasts. Traditional Americas have changed little but Liberals have expanded to the power of Rome and the conditions of Sodom. If God does not destroy the Satanic Rulers of Darkness (Ep6:12) of this country, then it is our Solemn Duty to do so; we must do it for the children, otherwise every one will become lost to TPTB Demons. The weeping may endure for a night but joy cometh in the morning; the Leftist Cancer in America’s Soul must be removed.
“…the contest is not over, the strife is not ended. It has only entered upon a new and enlarged arena.”
President Jefferson Davis, C.S.A., address to the Mississippi legislature in 1881.
There’s no question that there is a double standard when it comes to dems and the media, but I believe Trump isn’t in the club about as much as I believe WWF is not scripted.
What happens to us all of us here if the internet goes dark…
Article 13…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f17NWEhgwY
Fuck the left/right dialectic call it what it is, TYRANNY.
There are those for it and those against it.
Those for tyranny are the enemy, those against tyranny are friendly.
Tyranny = arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power, despotic abuse of authority
Lastly…
Once the internet is no longer free…
If you allow 5G cell towers…
The drones will to the technological killing of the left…
It will not matter who is in charge…
If the Liberty of the USA people go down…
Liberty will be lost worldwide…
GOD GIVEN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS … YES!
I am thankful for the Right of free speech, and the freedom of the press, but am especially thankful to The Idaho Observer for allowing both sides of this ongoing dispute regarding whether we have “God Given unalienable Rights” … or not! I cannot accept the last “Response” as the final word. Previous articles in the I.O. are listed below as reference points:
5-09 “NO CREATOR, NO RIGHTS”; 6-09 “DID SOMEONE MENTION ‘RIGHTS’?”;
7-09 “RIGHTS”; 10-09 “YES, I DID, EMPHATICALLY!”; 12-09 UNALIENABLE RIGHTS VS GRANTED RIGHTS; 1-10 “ABOUT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS” and article 7, dated 2-16-10 “RESPONSE” TO “RIGHTS” by Ralph Kenney, which I want to address.
In the past 50-60 years, the schools and colleges have done a 180 degree turn from teaching that America is a Christian Nation, as they have presented the atheistic and socialistic concepts, along with their negative and false claims about our founding fathers, promoting the propaganda of Communist John Dewey, that “God is dead” and there are “no absolutes”. We are witnessing the fruits of such indoctrination in this very dispute.
In October, J. T. Hale gave 14 examples of Bible references whereby certain; “Rights” were conferred upon us through our Creator’s legislation. I noticed that Kenney only denied one of them, and that on the basis that the scriptures did not summarize it as specifically “Rights”, although it implied it clearly.
Kenney says that “The Bible condemns the act of looking back.” There are a few of us that like to “look back” to the old days, right here in America, when porn, adultery, nudity, profanity, perversion and immorality of every sort was an unacceptable rarity, rather than the norm. But Kenney says “the Bible condemns looking back.”
Does it? He gives no reference, so I will! Jeremiah 6:16 “Thus says the LORD, Stand by the ways and see and ask for the ancient paths, where the good way is, and walk in it; and you shall find rest for your souls.” Jer. 18:15 “Yet my people have forgotten me; they burn incense to worthless idols, which made them stumble in their ways and in the ancient paths. They made them walk in bypaths and on roads not built up.” Today, some boldly claim they “will not walk in” those “ancient paths “. However, every time there was repentance noted in our Bible, it was when the people “looked back” to the “ancient paths” that they had deserted.
The Holy Bible is full of such admonishment for His people. Yet, I see the Holy Scriptures used so deviously to misrepresent a socialist doctrine of humanism. The Bible does not say not to look back. If we do not heed the lessons of history, we are doomed to repeat them. The Scriptures do not say that the Israelites “were not allowed to enter the Promised Land … because they looked back to Egypt.” Nor, does the Christian Bible say that “not one Israelite of the Exodus generation was allowed to enter the Promised Land.”
What saith the Word? First, the reason the adults that left Egypt were not allowed to “enter the Promised Land” was because they feared the giants reported by their spies (Numbers 13 and 14). Second: “Not one”? Wrong again! The adults that left Egypt were not allowed to enter the promised land … except two: Joshua and Caleb.
More psychological manipulation is the hypothetical scenario that no matter how “healthy you may wish to be, if you drive from LA to NY you’re going to absorb some MSG in restaurants along the way.” Wrong again! If you truly wish to be healthy, there are many snack bars in health food stores, fruit and veggies stands, and organic food departments in grocery stores. There are some of us that want to be healthy and would not eat in a restaurant (MSG, pork, sugar, chemical additives) if we went from LA to NY every week! Do we not have the “right” to eat what we choose to eat?
Kenney goes further in claiming there are no “constitutional (Rights) under British Common Law”.
Of course, that would have to be condemned also, for it was the basis of our Constitutional Republic, and our entire judiciary system that made America great! Our founding fathers may not have been perfect, but they were divinely inspired to work hard to give us the best form of government the world has ever known (aside from the “old paths” of Theocracy). Blackstone [British Law Dictionary] was used as legal reference when our Constitution was formed, and also in our courts until the early 20th century. Blackstone used the Holy Scriptures for the basis of his ruling in almost every situation! His entire works illustrate the value of our unalienable God-Given Rights.
As for the replacing of “Rights” to that of “duty”, I’d like the actual scriptural references, such as “St. Paul …says, ‘We owe a duty to God.’” I cannot find such a statement in the Bible.
But Eccl. 12:13 says, “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.” And our Savior said: “If you love me, keep my commandments (John 14:15).” We are back to the commandments, to not steal or kill whereby we are given the “right” to life and property, etc. No, it doesn’t say “rights”, but it definitely infers such. If our Creator confers no “Rights”, then we are no better than the animals; each individual’s “will and power” insures our existence. Darwin, with this same atheistic philosophy, called it the “survival of the fittest”. And without our God-Given-Unalienable-Rights, the socialist evolution of the “survival of the fittest” becomes the strongest, smartest, and largest liars and deceivers!
But if our loving Creator gave us our basic “Rights” of life, liberty, property and pursuit of happiness, it is for this purpose that government was designed, and our Constitutional government, with a Christian foundation, is still the best choice! I am a Christian, and an American, and I claim the “Right” to defend both.
Debbie (Hale) Skipper
Smithville, Oklahoma
Meh.
There’s disagreement at the management/1% level over who gets to steal the pots of gold, but they are united in screwing over the 99%.
That isn’t a recipe for civil war.
The real Civil War was because the 99% agreed with the differences in opinion even though 1% actually saw any economic difference. The poor in the South had slavery as an aspirational goal while the poor in the North feared slaves as threats to their livelihood.
What’s the divide today? Gun ownership and/or religion isn’t a livelihood for very many at all. Neither is LGBT. Government jobs – pork barrel on both sides, just with different troughs as vehicles.
No one can sit this out. Globalism is slavery. The peons from the Third World were serfs before and have no love for “freedom”. They NEVER HAD it. They’ll NEVER MISS it.
If you’re White, they want you DEAD . They want your women breeding down. The enemy cannot go up, so they HAVE to bring you down.
The GOP doesn’t even TRY to win. They are the Washington Generals that are PAID TO LOSE. They are TRYING to LOSE THIS YEAR. Let’s dispense with this farce. Stay home and LET THE LINCOLN PARTY DIE. The goofballs in the media and the left will ramp it up to FULL RETARD.
War is already here. The GOPe dopes just keep YOU and YOURS from FIGHTING BACK. Get rid of the False Hope and Let the Enemy ramp it up. When they do, the War finally goes hot BOTH WAYS.
THEY DO NOT HAVE THE TROOPS TO FIGHT YOU.
THE GUN CONTROL AND FALSE FLAGS SHOW YOU THAT.
LETS FIGHT THEM BEFORE THEY REALLY CAN TAKE YOUR GUNS.
“Many signs indicate that the future enters us in this way in order to be transformed in us, long before it happens.” (Rainer Maria Rilke).
If there is to be a civil war it better happen before the last Boomer dies.
Because there won’t be a civil war under Millennials and Gen Z unless there’s an App for it on their iPhone. (And several tens of millions of acres set aside throughout ‘Murika for safe spaces.)
Good article. Spot on. We are indeed in the pre-military phase of the war, which will turn military if they attempt to remove Trump and he refuses to go – he absolutely should refuse and he shoud call on the core population to take up arms, along with the military and police. The Democrat “Progressives” should be hunted down with dogs and dealt with if they dare to resist the American people.
For those who doubt what is happening, please research the US Civil War and the Spanish Civil War. Both were deeply ideological and the military phase was preceded by something similar to what we are seeing today.
Get ready, friends.
Right on, S. Sage!
I have researched the Spanish Civil War. Unfortunately, there is no parallel to the USSA today. In Spain there were actual institutions that opposed the Left. They were able to rally masses of support to their cause.
The murder of a key leader by the Left was avenged with an almost Israeli level of pay back.Trump could be murdered,although most likely he will be driven from office, and there will be little substantive reaction. Why? Because not a single political, economic or social institution will risk anything to assist him. Those whose duty calls for obeying him or protecting him will not do their duty when doing so is unpopular. All the while the pay us deposited every two weeks.
In 1860 there was institional backing for both the Union and the CSA. This will not occur in even Utah, Idaho or West Virginia or in the reddest counties in the blue states. There is no material benefit to going against the establishment and great danger to speaking out or being revealed as a thinker of bad thoughts.
Sad to say the Spanish Civil War analogy is a non-starter today.
Whatever is coming, will not be the Confederate States Government duking it out with the United States Government with hundreds of thousands of professional soldiers on each side.
Societal breakdown (what we have today) is not a good comparison to The War of Northern Aggression.
Great article! Brilliant mind.
Can we just get it over with? I’ve been waiting decades for this to finally kick off and I don’t want to miss it.