THIS DAY IN HISTORY – Shootings at Ruby Ridge – 1992

Via History.com

In the second day of a standoff at Randy Weaver’s remote northern Idaho cabin atop Ruby Ridge, FBI sharpshooter Lon Horiuchi wounds Randy Weaver and Kevin Harris, and then kills Weaver’s wife, Vicki.

Randy Weaver, an alleged white supremacist, had been targeted by the federal government for selling two illegal sawed-off shotguns to an undercover Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) informant. On August 21, 1992, after a period of surveillance, U.S. marshals came upon Harris, Weaver, Weaver’s 14-year-old son Sammy and the family dog on a road near the Weaver property. A marshal shot and killed the dog, prompting Sammy to fire at the marshal. In the ensuing gun battle, Sammy and U.S. Marshal Michael Degan were shot and killed. A tense standoff ensued, and on August 22 the FBI joined the marshals besieging Ruby Ridge.

Later that day, Harris, Weaver, and his daughter, Sarah, left the cabin, allegedly for the purpose of preparing Sammy’s body for burial. FBI sharpshooter Lon Horiuchi, waiting 200 yards away, opened fire, allegedly because he thought Harris was armed and intending to fire on a helicopter in the vicinity. Horiuchi wounded Weaver, and the group ran to the shed where Sammy’s body was lying.

When they attempted to escape back into the cabin, Horiuchi fired again, wounding Harris as he dove through the door and killing Vicki Weaver, who was holding the door open with one hand and cradling her infant daughter with the other. Horiuchi claimed he didn’t know that Vicki Weaver was standing behind the door. Harris, Weaver, and Weaver’s three daughters surrendered nine days later.

The controversial standoff spawned a nationwide debate on the use of force by federal law enforcement agencies, and a U.S. Senate panel accused the federal agencies involved of “substantial failures” in their handling of the Ruby Ridge operation.

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turlock
turlock
August 22, 2018 7:35 am

The government has the power to kill you whenever they wish.

James
James
  turlock
August 22, 2018 7:42 am

To me this event and Waco was my “Kennedy moment”,was when I really as a young man started looking into our history within the US.

Turlock,while I agree as has been shown the favor can be returned.

Sucks as always we even have to see things like this and think like this.

Excommunicated
Excommunicated
August 22, 2018 7:53 am

All these cops today going around killing peoples dogs and this 14 year old boy back then is the only one who had the balls to shoot back.

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
August 22, 2018 8:09 am

Brought to you by the Clinton Justice Department of the ’90’s.
What makes you think a latter-day Clinton Justice Department would be any different?

Maggie
Maggie
  e.d. ott
August 22, 2018 8:29 am

I wonder how that Cuban kid is doing?

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Maggie
August 22, 2018 8:53 am

do you mean elian gonzales?
every propaganda piece i’ve ever seen him in shows him as a shining example of the young communist man–

TampaRed
TampaRed
  e.d. ott
August 22, 2018 8:50 am

sorry to give you the bad news but it was bush,sr.s govt that did this–

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
  TampaRed
August 22, 2018 9:52 am

I agree, point conceded.
The Establishment NWO attitude of the RINO Bush I era carried over to the Clintons, who reinforced the harsher ATF law enforcement policies from a Prog Democratic perspective. Where government authority is concerned on that issue it’s simply a different flavor for me.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 22, 2018 8:52 am

Yo, do you have the photo of Weaver wearing the ZOG t-shirt. He clearly knew too much.

TampaRed
TampaRed
August 22, 2018 8:56 am

here’s a bit of positive gun news–the state of louisiana has blocked citi & boa from participating in a state bond sale because of their refusal to do business w/firearms businesses–

https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/67884/state-blocks-banks-from-600-million-deal-over-lenders-antigun.html

TJF
TJF
August 22, 2018 9:37 am

I was a young man when this happened and in the Navy. At the time, I thought the whole thing was strange. Why would a man get some guns and move his family to a cabin on top of a mountain. Never really thought at the time to question the whole story or really see it for what it was. I just took the bait, and accepted the narrative that some white supremacist gun nut weirdo and his family got shot trying to fight the government.

Then in 1993 I moved to Idaho to attend college. Ruby Ridge was not all that far away. I learned a little about the other side of the story from folks out there who in general just wanted people to leave them the fuck alone. It seemed like everyone off campus and not associated with the university were solidly in the camp of the Weavers.

Watched a documentary about the whole deal last year and it just made me sad and angry. Mostly it stands as a good example of how easy it is to deceive the American public to allow the government to do whatever they want to us.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 22, 2018 9:44 am

“Randy Weaver, an alleged white supremacist, had been targeted by the federal government for selling two illegal sawed-off shotguns to an undercover Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) informant. On August 21, 1992, after a period of surveillance, U.S. marshals came upon Harris, Weaver, Weaver’s 14-year-old son Sammy and the family dog on a road near the Weaver property. A marshal shot and killed the dog, prompting Sammy to fire at the marshal. In the ensuing gun battle, Sammy and U.S. Marshal Michael Degan were shot and killed”

They chose to be isolationists, but were not white supremacists. They went off the grid, to live in the woods. Tough living. Not much income to buy the necessities of life. Met with a group that had things in common. Undercover ATF uses entrapment to entice Weaver that an interested person would make it profitable to provide a sawed off or 2, if Weaver would be so desperate for money by illegally modifying a firearm. When so entrapped, and a swift prosecution attempt had failed, the escalation ensued.
White Supremacy was the narrative painted to a gullible public by the MSM, in the agencies attempt to clean up and justify the standoff and mass LEO blitz after escalation. It went bad because their barking dog alerted the family to trespassers in the perimeter, and so one took out a man’s (young teen’s) best friend to quiet the snitch. In anger and sadness, the youth shot back. Then all hell broke loose. Degan was the victim, they said, and when a LEO dies, an officer down cry brings his fellow blues out in force. Horiuchi was brought in as a sniper, on a small group of 2A advocates, that just wanted to be left alone out in the woods. As it escalated, and Vicki’s murder occurred, Randy dragged her body into the cabin, and stayed there, holed up, as a beloved wife now a corpse, for the agonizing days of the standoff until a surrender was negotiated, by a man who Weaver trusted enough to be allowed to visit the cabin and just try to reason with him, and end the siege. The horror of what Weaver and his daughter had to see and live with, Vicki and Sammy’s deaths and decomposing bodies was not lost on the negotiator.
Ultimately, Weaver was exonerated of most charges, and the USM, ATF and FBI were thwarted in their quest for entrapment, arrest, prosecution, vengeance, a few getting away with murder themselves. The people of Weaver’s surrounding community were loud in their protests and objection to the long arm of the law those days, and how they mishandled a conflict, and were the cause of the escalation that resulted in needless mayhem and additional pain and grief. A pattern that would subsequently repeat, with Waco and David Koresh and his followers.
Coming soon, to a compound getaway near you, because, Americans unknowingly commit up to 3 misdemeanors or felonies a day, with the thousands of laws in place, to control or eliminate those they deem fit to be taken down or out. America. Land of the fee, and home of the slave.

Diogenes
Diogenes
  Anonymous
August 22, 2018 9:54 am

Didn’t the scumbags promote the murderer Lon Horiuchi after the atrocity?

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  Diogenes
August 22, 2018 9:37 pm

Yes. Also an Idaho warrant for murder was issued for Horiuchi ‘s arrest was quashed by a federal judge stating Idaho could not arrest the thug because he was on duty.

starfcker
starfcker
August 22, 2018 9:58 am

Lon Horiuchicomment image

TJF
TJF
August 22, 2018 11:49 am

Where is Randy Weaver today? Wikipedia lists some things after he got out of jail, but doesn’t specify where he lives now and what he is up to.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  TJF
August 22, 2018 1:02 pm

TJF
Kalispell Mt.

22winmag - Stop breaking crosses off war memorials
22winmag - Stop breaking crosses off war memorials
August 22, 2018 12:59 pm

Alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives should be a department store.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
August 22, 2018 1:16 pm

Ruby ridge hit all of us hard who were in the Militia/2nd amendment movement and waco got us mobilised to do the groundwork for the Repubs to bring about the so called republican revolution. They promptly sold us out in January. Fool me twice shame on me.
The Nazis and Aryans were mainly over in Hayden lake Idaho area but they were able to use it to tar us with the same brush. Back then we were still gullible enough to believe there were still honest men and or Patriots working in Government.
Weren’t we silly.
When Hill and Bill retaliated by sending the IRS and EPA around to see us all the Repos left us hanging out to dry.
A lesson Q-anons don’t want to learn.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
August 22, 2018 1:54 pm

There should be a statue of Vicki, Sammy and his dog in Boise and another in WDC.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
August 23, 2018 8:39 am

Lon Horiuchi was at Waco as well and it was rumored he fired at a few folks there as well. It is my sincere hope and prayer that Lon dies a violent or agonizing death .