Originally Posted at Free Market Shooter
President Trump’s recent interview with Lesley Stahl on 60 Minutes was testy and contentious, to describe it modestly. Stahl’s tone was blatantly adversarial regarding everything the Trump administration has accomplished, while Trump took Stahl to task for CBS’s hypocritical treatment of his presidency, gloating to her face at one point with “I’m President – and you’re not.”
One of the more interesting parts of the interview was at the beginning, with the discussion on “climate change”. 60 Minutes led the entire discussion by trying to bait Trump into stating that climate change is a hoax, as he has done in the past:
Lesley Stahl: Do you still think that climate change is a hoax?
President Donald Trump: I think something’s happening. Something’s changing and it’ll change back again. I don’t think it’s a hoax, I think there’s probably a difference. But I don’t know that it’s manmade. I will say this. I don’t wanna give trillions and trillions of dollars. I don’t wanna lose millions and millions of jobs. I don’t wanna be put at a disadvantage.
Lesley Stahl: I wish you could go to Greenland, watch these huge chunks of ice just falling into the ocean, raising the sea levels.
President Donald Trump: And you don’t know whether or not that would have happened with or without man. You don’t know.
Lesley Stahl: Well, your scientists, your scientists–
President Donald Trump: No, we have–
Lesley Stahl: At NOAA and NASA–
President Donald Trump: We have scientists that disagree with that.
Like many of the climate scientists Trump disagrees with, 60 Minutes conveniently takes a snapshot of one part of the planet where ice is melting, ignoring the Ross ice shelf in Antarctica, where ice is gaining, as climate change proponent National Geographic was forced to admit:
The surprises began almost as soon as a camera was lowered into the first borehole, around December 1. The undersides of ice shelves are usually smooth due to gradual melting. But as the camera passed through the bottom of the hole, it showed the underside of the ice adorned with a glittering layer of flat ice crystals—like a jumble of snowflakes—evidence that in this particular place, sea water is actually freezing onto the base of the ice instead of melting it.
Of course, Trump’s position didn’t stop Stahl from delivering her scripted blame of recent hurricanes on climate change:
Lesley Stahl: You know, I– I was thinking what if he said, “No, I’ve seen the hurricane situations, I’ve changed my mind. There really is climate change.” And I thought, “Wow, what an impact.”
President Donald Trump: Well– I’m not denying.
Lesley Stahl: What an impact that would make.
President Donald Trump: I’m not denying climate change. But it could very well go back. You know, we’re talkin’ about over a millions–
Lesley Stahl: But that’s denying it.
President Donald Trump: –of years. They say that we had hurricanes that were far worse than what we just had with Michael.
As FMShooter has previously detailed, major hurricanes are hardly new occurrences…
And view some context on the most powerful storms, again per Wikipedia:
As of 2007, the Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 was the most intense hurricane to make landfall on the country, having struck the Florida Keys with a pressure of 892 mbar. It was one of only three hurricanes to move ashore as a Category 5 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale; the others were Hurricane Camille in 1969 and Hurricane Andrew in 1992, which had a landfalling pressure of 900 mbar and 922 mbar, respectively. Hurricane Katrina in 2005 was the third most intense hurricane to strike the country with a pressure of 920 mbar, though its winds were not as strong as Andrew.
The Galveston Hurricane of 1900 was the deadliest hurricane in the history of the United States, killing at least 8,000 people. The 1928 Okeechobee Hurricane caused at least 2,500 casualties, and in 2005, Hurricane Katrina killed about 1,500 people. In the 1893 season, two hurricanes each caused over 1,000 deaths.[2]
The costliest was Hurricane Katrina, with damage amounting to $84.6 billion, though in normalized dollars it may only be second to the Great Miami Hurricane of 1926.
…but its also not new for alarmists like Stahl to blame any natural disaster on “climate change” – even if the disasters in question are consistent with the past few hundred years worth of climate history.
Omitted in the 60 Minutes exchange with Trump on climate was any possible solution Stahl could put forward, besides heavily taxing those who can afford it least. The liberal pipe dream is to replace all coal plants with wind and/or solar, so it is important to look at how electricity is generated in the US:
Even though there hasn’t been a nuclear power plant completed since 1990, nuclear energy is close to 20% of the total megawatts supplied to the US market… and 60% of the nation’s carbon-free electricity. Nuclear plants have large fixed costs (largely due to burdensome NRC regulations), but the power is delivered very cheaply once the plant is complete. In comparison, wind power at 4.7% is “expensive and deeply inefficient”, as is solar, which remains a pipe dream unable to supply even 1% of the nation’s energy needs.
Nowhere in the mainstream media platform on reducing carbon emissions is expansion of nuclear power and/or research and development of Thorium reactors suggested – or curtailing heavily wasteful personal activities. The only solutions proposed by 60 Minutes involve feel-good yet impractical solutions that are not only unable to put the megawatts on the market, they ignore the net carbon impact of the processes used to extract the requisite raw materials.
The truth is articulated by Twitter user Patrick Ryan in a recent tweet – the industrialized world will likely always be reliant on fossil fuels to power it:
Of course, none of this stopped 60 Minutes from attempting to ambush President Trump in their interview with nonexistent “facts” on climate science. However, while they came up short in tripping up Trump and/or blaming him for “climate change”, they came up even shorter when it came to providing a solution to reducing both US and world CO2 emissions.
CO2 is plant food! Reduced CO2 levels would mean a less green planet. Oh and mother nature produces 95% of all CO2 emissions! Man is only responsible for 5% !!! Non of these articles ever examine what CO2 is and how it, along with plant life, are responsible for producing the oxygen that we need to breath!!! WTF?
REAL SCIENCE…
6CO2 + 6H2O + SUNLIGHT —> C6H12O6 + 6O2
CO2 is plant food!!!
CO2 plus WATER plus SUNLIGHT yields PLANT GROWTH and OXYGEN.
Photosynthesis, biology 101, the only science you need to know. Chip
Would have loved to see Trump shove photosynthesis in Stahl’s face. Anyone who cannot write the balanced chemical equation for photosynthesis has no business being involved in any discussion of the fake, bogus, theory of man-made gloBULL warming… Chip
One volcano in Iceland, Katia, produces 2/3 as much CO2 as the entire human race…
Hundreds of tons of steel go into a wind turbine. And those fuckers could spin til they disintegrate and never generate the power needed to build another one. Mine, melt, treat, shape, transport just that steel, and that turbine is in permanent energy debt.
Look closely (magnify it) at any CO2/Temperature chart from ice cores from any place on the planet and from any geological ere and something jumps out to refute the claim that global increases in CO2 levels result in increasing temperatures.
Yes, every graph shows that CO2 and Temperature closely follow each other, but temperature always goes up BEFORE CO2 levels rise – not the other way around. CO2 is a LAGGING indicator, not a leading indicator. Temperature increases lead to elevated CO2 levels, not the other way around.
!0,000 years ago, the Pacific Northwest was under 10,000 feet of ice. The melt rate has been , on average, a foot each year. 9,900 of those years were before the industrial revolution – before oil-based fuels were in use.
Co2 is NOT an “insulating” greenhouse gas that warms the atmosphere. How could it – CO2 is one of the heavier components in the atmosphere (and smallest by %) which keeps it at surface of the globe – not in the upper reaches of the atmosphere where it would have to be to maintain a greenhouse “seal” on the temperatures of the air below it.
Scientists cannot model cloud formation and dissipation with an algorithm. It is much too complex a dynamic system with too many variables. So, “scientists” use a “fudge factor” for clouds in their meteorological models. Al Gore used those models, pointing to misleading charts from his man-lift, to “prove” that Manhattan would be under water by now.
Carbon consumption, as a tax base, is a tax-crazy government’s wet dream and our nightmare.
Climate Change is an intentional “False Flag” attack on our wallets that ignores deforestation as the biggest threat to global weather systems (and the biggest factor behind rising CO2), because the disappearing forests (used to) consume CO2.
Just a question? I’m sure what your saying is true and the earth warms due to sun cycles. But where does the added CO2 come from?
The above poster made a good point about photo synthesis and the need for CO2 , not to mention the need for more water and warmer weather to grow more plants. But where does the added CO2 come from?
The same place it came from before plants changed some of the carbon on the planet into hydrocarbons. The CO2 coming out of the gazzilions of underwater volcanic vents alone is probably more than we generate, to say nothing of large volcanoes on land. Ditto for the seasonal releases of CO2 in the fall when plant mater decays, and the drop int he spring when plants take off (that’s why the CO2 graphs look like serrated teeth on a knife) See also carbonate compounds. This entire CO2 = warming notion is laughable, and sadly, a clear example of just how poorly “scientists” are practicing their increasingly corrupt craft.
Moreover, if avg temperatures are warming due to solar activity, ocean current cycles, and cloud formation (or lack thereof) due to cosmic ray nucleation, it will cause CO2 levels to increase due to increased plant, animal, and – – most importantly – – soil microorganism respiration. CO2 ALWAYS follows temps; this is why the increase in CO2 didnt show up until the mid 1900’s, bc temps crashed in the 1600-1700’s, and had only been increasing for approx 100 to 150 years (something Thomas Jefferson noted in his agricultural research!!!). Again, it’s just preposterous that “modern” science claims CO2 increases temps…. next thing you know, they’ll be demanding virgin sacrifices be thrown into volcanoes to appease Gia, or some such nonsense.
Your assumption: that there is “added” CO2 – from “somewhere”, does not consider that the levels of all elements and compounds in the atmosphere vary within cycles of a complex, dynamic nature.
There is no added CO2 in the atmosphere, or contained in the oceans or glaciers. The levels of CO2 (in the atmosphere) have been higher and lower than they are today – many, many times, driven by orbital variations, not car exhaust.
The Vostok Ice Cores clearly demonstrate the variations in CO2 and sea levels are by natural cycles, not by the operating hours of coal-fired power plants.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11659-climate-myths-ice-cores-show-co2-increases-lag-behind-temperature-rises-disproving-the-link-to-global-warming/
Your concern about “added” greenhouse gasses, and very powerful ones, should be directed at methane – a gas we are dramatically increasing with every more forest cleared for pasture. Factory farms create massive reservoirs of pig/cow/chicken manure = runaway methane (and mother nature is joining this elemental dogpile by releasing hers from artic permafrost and subsea reservoirs of frozen methane substrate).
Ivar Giaever, Nobel Laureate for his work related to quantum tunneling in superconductors, makes a mockery of the CO2-based argument for “global warming” or “climate change”. He does it humbly, simply, elegantly and humorously. It only requires two neurons to see the truth of his assertions.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=nobel+laureat+say+obama+wrong+on+global+warming&view=detail&mid=CC2850D50A28440E4631CC2850D50A28440E4631&FORM=VIRE
Parts of Ivar’s presentation were included in the movie “Climate Hoax” – which was limited to a one-day showing in U.S. theaterrs and is now a DVD available online
The funniest part is where the dumb shit asked trumpster to go to Greenland to see chunks of ice falling into the ocean-as if that proves anything. Who would give a microphone to an asshole?
So a planet covered with 70% water, and abundant carbon cannot figure out how to desalinate and pump the water inland, and water the surface until we live in a garden of plenty.
There is no vision amongst the people at large.
mongeroo, I think LLPOH covered that topic, it is prohibited by the energy required and the consequent salinity. Shit, part of the Clinton Global Shenanigans Initiative was to use Haiti as a dumping ground for coal ash, imagine what problems arise in trying to dump salt? Pig poop is also a problem for industrial hog farms.
People are idiots.
I made the mistake of listening to local talk radio the other day as I was hoping for news on the flooding in the area. Instead, I get an interview of some plastic surgeon talking about how more people were changing their faces. It turns out you see that self awareness of our looks inbedded in us from 100’s of millions of years of evolution.
Done in McKinney. Wilson Creek flooded… East Fork Trinity way up.
Grace, are you able to post, we need you on the Hawkins article.
At the back docs… see you over there when I get out.
?
Have you seen what is going on in Central Texas? My son works for TxDot and has to go look into the bridge damage done along the Llano.
Have not… got a link to some info? Man it’s been raining!
These ‘news’ people are a bunch of cunts – all of them. They know nothing, and act like they know everything.
They have been repeatedly caught falsifying data to support their global warming bullshit.
It’s a scam, as Trump said, to steal trillions of dollars from Americans and destroy our economy.
It used to be called “Global Warming” by the fanatics who claimed that Man was responsible for the miniscule rise in temperature. But when they couldn’t prove that, they changed the name to “Climate Change” to hide their hoax. SMH!
which one of you farted!
That’d be me…
Trump should not give interviews to the corporate-controlled, propaganda and subversive Fake News Networks, commonly referred to as the Main Stream Media. Lesley Stahl is a brainwashed puppeteer with zero understanding of the science of climate change. Like the little monkey tethered to the organ grinder, she dances around asking stupid questions given to her by the Fake News organ grinders. What an embarrassment modern “journalism” has become. Can they sink any lower? Who watches stupid people posing as journalists who sold their souls for a basket of shekels?
There is no doubt that the climate is moving as evidenced with the new trend of the “polar vortex” moving further south into most of the Midwest of the United States…created terms like “El Nino” and” La Niña ” to explain the warming in the Pacific off the Coast of Mexico and California…
What is highly debatable is to what extent human activity is to blame for it…
The North Pole moving faster each year towards Russia… so much so that airports have had to realign runways…
https://www.wired.com/story/airports-rename-runways-magnetic-shift/
Wandering pole theory suggests that there is such evidence in the sediment and glacial ice core samples to illustrate that our magnetic poles do move and have flipped before.
NASA has come out and stayed that we are due for a magnetic pole reversal…article from this year…
https://www.newsweek.com/earth-magnetic-poles-signs-flip-exposing-humans-radiation-blackout-795179
NASA has recently blame Humans for the Earth wobbling more as it spins…
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/09/24/humans-are-causing-earth-to-wobble-more-as-it-spins-nasa-finds/
NASA blames this partially on “post glacial rebound” effect which suggests that the decrease in weight on the Earth’s crust from the melting glaciers is causing reverberations within the Earth and in turn altering its wobble…
I wonder what has tilted the other planets and our sun by 6 degrees??
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6964
http://www.astronomy.com/news/2016/10/planet-nine-tilting-the-sun
And we can’t forget about the news that the heliosphere is weakening due to the solar minimum and decreased solar output..
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3222476/Suns-protective-bubble-is-shrinking.html
I’m sure this is what some of the geo engineering programs are for, radiation management
Now there’s this from today, like the Telegraph article i linked above.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-17/asteroid-coming-nasas-planetary-defense-coordination-office-budget-suddenly-spikes
Lesley Stahl is a member of the Rockefeller CFR, along with CBS chairman Richard Parsons. The “man-made global warming” scam was created to promote the CFR / UN global governance agenda.