By Doug “Uncola” Lynn via TheBurningPlatform.com
Certainly any one who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.
– Voltaire. (1765). “Questions sur les Miracles”.
This blogger has posted over 120 original essays since the fall of 2016. With topics ranging from politics to philosophy, I’ve strived to be true for the most part; and, at the very least, accurate. In so doing, I would attempt to find three separate ways to vet source material – and, in my mind at least, I’ve built some trust with the readers and believe my essays, so far, have stood the test of time. But if I ever wrote anything blatantly false, everything written henceforth by me, as well as my past articles, should be viewed with greater suspicion by the readers; and for good reason.
Accordingly, we are very fortunate to have the internet; at the very least, for its processing capabilities. It is in the digital rooms of the interwebic blogosphere where intelligent people face-off in a virtual mixed-martial-arts cage fight where free thought and speech, link attributions, and interactive media, are traded like jabs, uppercuts, body-blows, and roundhouse kicks. Using the ethernet to test ideas could also be compared to running software at the speed of light, with multiple programming variations, and zero real life consequences; until, that is, we choose to apply the computations. And this is when it becomes risky business.
All in all, it would have been nice not to write this article; if only because of the emotional investment people have with the various subjects about to be discussed; and also due to the abstract intuitive subjectiveness inherent to these topics. In truth, the following subject matter could be organized into the table of contents for a book entitled “Some of the Most Controversial Subjects Ever Debated by Anyone Who’s Ever Lived” . This one has it all, folks: The Jews, Israel, the Bible, Christianity, Zionism, Islam, prophecy, global hegemony, fascism, socialism, communism, climate change, and more. In other words, I’m about to piss off a percentage of the readers.
First, I’ll start out with a disclaimer. Actually, the fact I even need a disclaimer is telling in and of itself, isn’t it:
Just know the person whose words you are now reading has an open mind. For the record: I’m not Jewish. I’m not a Zionist or at all cowed to Talmudic puppet-masters. My ancestors were Irish, Scott, and Saxon; as well as eighteenth century settlers on this continent: coal-miners, educators, law-enforcement, military, ranchers, farmers, administrators, physicians, and pioneers who passed through New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa, Montana, and into Northern California and Washington State.
The only real friendship I’ve had with a Jewish person in my life (beyond acquaintances) was with a neighbor who is now dead. At his funeral, I learned their tribe encouraged friends and family of the deceased to occasionally place rocks on their graves in commemoration. A little bizarre, but okay. They gave me a pebble at the service and I threw it in his grave that day and haven’t been back. I think I did it wrong, but no one complained then or since. My point is that some groups of people have varying orthodoxies and as long they don’t interfere with mine, then, to each his own.
So this won’t be a pro-Jew article, per se, because I’m not invested one way or the other beyond my own opinions. But I’d like to think it is a fair assessment and one I can use as a future “disclaimer” going forward. Because, at times after I post my articles, there are those who will often place accusatory and unproven comments, links, videos, jokes, or cartoons into the commentary of the threads on various websites of which I am commenting as well – and I want them to know that my silence, or lack of response to their perspectives, does not mean consent (on my part) to their particular assertions. At the same time, of course, they are as entitled to their views as I am to mine.
In other words, this isn’t personal and I may repost the link to this piece into my threads occasionally when I deem necessary and for purposes of posterity.
In accordance to past debates, it should be furthermore noted that logic does sometimes change minds. But in the end, more often than not, belief systems are like rubber bands: They stretch and take new form temporarily, before bouncing right back into place; to the sounds of front doors locking, mouse clicks, and heads hitting pillows.
If someone asked me what I stood for, I could honestly look them in the eyes and say “truth, justice, and the American way”. But then I would qualify that statement, additionally, with these words: “Under the United States Constitution”.
You see, growing up in a small Midwestern town in the fading light of Norman Rockwell’s America, I came of age during the saccharine seventies. During the eighties, I became an optimistic young Republican under the stewardship of Ronald Wilson Reagan; a moderately successful businessman in the nineties; and, later, a concerned patriot of the new millennium.
Over that time, I’ve witnessed the carnage executed by social Marxism and the decay consummated by leftist politics in this country. Over the same time period, a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, has all but perished from the earth. It is a paradox how the decline of social order has brought about augmented authoritarianism in not only America, but around the world.
Common sense, fairness, and law have been upended by politically correct orthodoxies, societal divisions, and tyranny.
Over the past six decades, the degeneration of the American educational system and the embrace of Fabian Socialism combined with a pervasive cultural degradation, has led to Orwellian-style surveillance societies all over the Brave New World.
Massive media companies have become the propaganda arm of an elite global establishment as the armed forces of sovereign nations serve the whims of transnational corporations, and politicians are sold to the highest bidders in order to pacify plebeians agitated by leftist foundations.
By means of the Hegelian Dialectic chaos delivers order and the Left-Right March to Tyranny moves forward.
So here’s a question: Is there one particular group pulling the strings?
Obviously, anyone half-awake would answer that inquiry in the affirmative and if you are reading these words then, being more than half-awake, you are very likely thinking the name of that particular group right now.
Well, for one thing, the group must be powerful. Moreover, since no single group could direct the affairs of entire nation-states remotely by phone calls, faxes, e-mails, or texts from secret locations – they must be a network of like-minded individuals. And if money equals power in this world, logic would dictate they must have the access and ability to direct funds to their network around the globe.
That’s it! They’re BANKERS. And the network is set up in concentric circles of influence, or perhaps a pyramid of power, as it were.
However, if these bankers are tyrannical to the extent of undermining nations around the globe via war, open borders, the propagation of both moral decline and authoritarianism, as well as the promotion of Marxism and the subversion of constitutional law in the United States – they must be evil, right?
So what elite powerful group had the motive, means, and opportunity to establish a global network in control of the world’s economic system, introduce orthodoxies designed to undermine liberty, propagandize the wealthy western nations into degrading their educational systems and culture and while accepting massive migrations of immigrants who were displaced by wars instigated by said elite powerful group?
Well, it could have been the “Military Industrial Complex” as referenced by former U.S. President Dwight Eisenhower. Or, perhaps, the “secret societies” as mentioned by former U.S. President John F. Kennedy that had, in his words, “conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations” and in ways that were “repugnant in a free and open society”.
To be sure, the mysterious elite powerful group now leading the nations into hell is all of the above. They are also commonly referred to as the Deep State, illuminati, luciferians, satanists, freemasons, round-table participants, neocons, elite bankers, Zionists, and Jews; but maybe not all together or all at once.
Now, about the last two so identified. We should probably address those particular designations. Before the readers go and start calling me an anti-Semite, I just want to clarify I’m only reporting facts here; so don’t kill the messenger. Go to any number of websites throughout the free internet, bookstore, or library, and you’ll see the latter two designations of Zionists and Jews conflated to the other, previous, names including, once again, Deep State, illuminati, luciferians, satanists, freemasons, round-table participants, neocons, and elite bankers. Yet, those who do so will, at the same time, acknowledge only SOME Jews and Zionists are in any way connected to the evil, tyrannical hegemons as defined by the other appellations.
Some Jews, but not all.
Personally, I believe my aforementioned now-deceased Jewish neighbor would have resented being lumped in with devil-worshipping megalomaniacs even more than alt-right bloggers and commenters hate being called anti-Semites.
And, don’t get me wrong, I understand the confusion. Because, yes, there have been evil Jews engaged in mysticism, secret knowledge, and esoteric movements from the times of ancient Babylon. Furthermore, the Babylonian Talmud is still worshipped today by some of the Jews now attempting to the rule the world.
But, it is one thing to say the blood-affiliated members of the House of Rothschild are slime because they love mammon and the love of mammon is the root of all kinds of evil, and quite another to say they’re slime because they are Jewish. In fact, to call the modern Rothschilds and other infiltrators like the Hungarian George Soros and sons “Jews” is, in this blogger’s opinion, akin to calling Adolf Hitler a Lutheran.
What is a Jew, anyway? One who wears a kippah? One who frequents a synagogue? One whose mother descended from Jews?
Perhaps those who-would-be-our-rulers are Jews, but not all Jews, and including some who are not Jews?
Or, is it ALL Jews and ONLY Jews now occupying the innermost concentric rings in the uppermost penthouses of the pyramid of power?
Which is it? And how can one know for sure? Because, it seems the same ones who sell you with great conviction on the second option, are often the same people who argue that correlation does not equal causation in climate change.
But, ask them again, and they will tell you: “It’s the JEWS PERIOD”.
As for me, however, I will discern my friends and enemies by their actions. In these times, everything distills down to liberty versus tyranny. Whether by fascism, or communism, Islam, Talmudism, statism, globalism, secularism, or by any other name – it’s the pursuit power and control by empty souls.
If the enemy of my enemy is my friend, why would I want to alienate any U.S. Constitution-abiding people like my neighbor when they could aid me in the fight? Is it wise to alienate such folks merely over a name? That seems nonsensical, especially, when we have many other more accurate designations we could use.
The Political Left absolutely hates the author and philosopher, Ayn Rand. Of course you know why. Because of how her writings have inspired generations to self-reliance and common sense; this blogger included. Yet it was the Bolsheviks who seized Rand’s father’s pharmacy business in 1917, when Ayn was 12 years old. This forced her family to move to Crimea where they lived in extreme poverty, to the point of near starvation and that, in turn, caused Rand to spend the rest of her life ideologically disassembling collectivism.
Why risk excluding a future Ayn Rand in our fight? Why throw the proverbial baby out with the bath water?
Rand, in spite of her Jewish lineage, was the anti-Bolshevik. This is why conflating ideology with lineage is not logical.
What if Jews were merely genetically intelligent, for good, or bad? Admittedly, they have made amazing contributions to mankind from the Barbie doll to nuclear fission. Einstein was a Jew like George Soros, but Soros renounced God on 60 Minutes in the same manner Adolph Hitler threw Einstein out with the untermenschen in the bathwater. No wonder the Germans lost the war when they bombed Pearl Harbor.
What is it about those Jews? If one were to correlate lineages to the percentages of Nobel Prize winners, it would appear Jews do have high intelligence. Yet they’ve been so despised throughout history and, even today, there are those who would deny them their own nation; perhaps because wicked Jewish bankers were instrumental in the establishment of said nation. But is it any different than America being founded by Freemasons and Deists?
Well, part of the reason could be the central role Jews have been assigned regarding the foundations of the world’s three major religions: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, to be exact and in the historical order of their respective formation.
Obviously, the seeds of conflict between Islam and Judaism date back circa 3,800 years ago to the Biblical patriarch, Abraham, and his sons Ishmael and Isaac. If the reader is not familiar with the story, a simple internet search should do the trick. The point is, hatred and the Jews goes back a long ways. Heck, one even claiming to be the Jewish Savior was crucified by Romans at the request of his own tribe, near 2,000 years ago.
So why now let these “has beens” aggravate in the modern world? The Jews had their turn, right? Except for one little problem now possessing .06% of resuscitated middle-eastern desert located dead center in the middle of several Muslim nations.
Yes, folks, I’m talking about the secular nation of Israel. But if it’s secular, what’s the problem? Good question. The problem is, in accordance to Biblical canon: From the time Adam and Eve relocated to East of Eden, the bloodlines of the tribes that later became known as Israel have been first rate screw-ups to the point God decided to make them examples of His glory. Or so the good book says. Lucky them.
In fact, Israel, in the tribal vernacular, means “wrestles with God”.
Supposedly, God did not choose the Jews because they were superior to other tribes, but solely because the Big Guy wanted to use them like pack mules in order to bless all the nations of the earth.
In the book of Genesis chapter 26, verses 3 through 5, God told Abraham’s son, Isaac, the following:
Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father; And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed
And, in the Book of Deuteronomy chapter 26, verses 7 and 8, God tells the Biblical nation of Israel this:
The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: But because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers…
Like I said before, isn’t the internet great for processing?
Regardless, for non-believers, including atheist and agnostics, that all is some real spooky stuff right there.
But even for the believers of various faiths, they remain divided over the ancient scriptures.
In Judaism, for example, there are Jews and Israelis who adhere to the first five books of Moses; also called the Torah or Tanakh. Then there are those who worship at the altar of the aforementioned Babylonian Talmud, consisting of Babylonian secret knowledge, and written as a commentary to the Torah while the Jews were in Babylonian captivity circa 2,600 years ago.
On the Christian side of the equation, there are those who believe modern Israel is counterfeit and could even be central to the authoritarian rule of the (claimed-to-be) forthcoming Antichrist; who will rule the nations of the world by forcing everyone to take what the Bible’s Book of Revelation alludes to as the “mark of the beast” on their right hand or forehead.
Other Christians believe the modern state of Israel was installed by God (even if at the hands of Jewish Bankers) as a sign of the end of the age just before Jesus Christ will return and enter by the east gate of a third (not yet constructed) Jewish temple in Jerusalem.
The Jews and Christians and others who support modern Israel are called Zionists. Torah adherents and Talmudic Jews expect a future messiah to one day rule the world; as Zionist Christians also believe God still directs the affairs of Man and that the following verses came in to play when Israel became a nation again, in one day, on May 14, 1948.
Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? Or shall a nation be born at once? For as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
– Isaiah 66:8
On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves.
– Zechariah 12:3
I will plant Israel in their own land, never again to be uprooted from the land I have given them
– Amos 9:15
But that’s not all. There are some Christian prophecy experts who claim the nations immediately surrounding Israel including “Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian people”, will soon commence a Psalm 83 war whereby this prayer will come to pass:
Make them like tumbleweed, my God, like chaff before the wind.
As fire consumes the forest or a flame sets the mountains ablaze,
So pursue them with your tempest and terrify them with your storm.
Cover their faces with shame, Lord, so that they will seek your name.
May they ever be ashamed and dismayed; may they perish in disgrace.
Let them know that you, whose name is the Lord- that you alone are the Most High over all the earth.
Voodoo? Maybe so. But there is even more.
Some of the same Christian Zionists believe the entire world would embrace the Psalm 83 war as the Book of Revelation’s “Armageddon” thus setting the stage for planet earth to accept a false messiah; like Islam’s Twelfth Imam, a Talmudic strongman, a fake return of Christ, or possibly even an outer-space alien (i.e. metaphysical demon / fallen angel) as all of the above – and delivering a false peace and prosperity thus fulfilling the “strong delusion” or “great deception” or “falling away” of the Bible’s 2nd Thessalonians, chapter 2, verses 3-12:
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(emphasis added)
Some of the saved also believe their Savior, Himself, actually referred to the false messiah occupying the (not yet built) Third Temple in Jerusalem when some of the Jews asked: “What shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?”:
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
(emphasis added)
Other Christians claim the Psalm 83 prophecy is credible because none of those nations are named in the Ezekiel 38 and 39 war when Russia, Iran, Turkey and other countries come against Israel or, even later, in the Sixth Trumpet War of Revelation 9 when the Kings of the East (China?) march up the Euphrates river to Israel in the battle just prior to Armageddon.
Crazy, no? Again, don’t kill the messenger. All of this is on the internet and, as some claim, in the Bible.
Moreover, for good, or bad, true or false, the Jews and Israel are right smack in the center of it all.
Honestly, I can see how it would be enough to make even a saved-by-the-blood Christian to curse the Jews and their nation. Except for a few paragraphs in the Bible’s Book of Romans by the Apostle Paul quoting a prophecy from Israel’s ancient King David regarding the “Remnant of Israel”. As it was written:
God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that could not see and ears that could not hear, to this very day.
And David says:
May their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see, and their backs be bent forever.
Then, a few verses later, Paul wrote this in Romans, chapter 11, verses 28 through 32:
As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
So, should believers and non-believers alike have mercy on the Jews? Up to you. As for me, I think I’ll hedge my bets. What’s frustrating about that, though, is this: In so doing, those who would curse the Jews then accuse me of being part of the conspiracy. Can you believe it? This blogger who is out here in the worldwide web trying to kick some ass and take some names is, by some commenters, conflated to being controlled opposition by the illuminati.
How can I prove, therefore, that I don’t beat my wife? Watch me. Because by their actions they are known. Even so, in the meantime, these alt-right inquisitors seem very much like leftists who make similar ad-homonym arguments against conservatives.
It’s like the way snowflakes preach climate change because they want to believe it. They need to believe it, almost as if it adds meaning to their identity, or atonement for their sins, or perhaps they feel the need to oversimplify their enemy. For the Socialists, it’s White Power and the Weather Monster and for the fascists, its mostly about the Kikes. Mostly. But whatever the flavor, it’s almost spiritual in nature, or at the very least, emotional. Either way, it’s like a faith. And as stated in the second paragraph at the beginning of this piece, once we act in faith to “apply the computations”, this is when it becomes “risky business”.
Just as the left conflates colors and genitalia, fascists sublimate ideas to DNA and kippahs. In so doing, in my humble opinion, they’re not only wasting time, but dividing our ranks and providing the means to strengthen our mutual enemies.
As the Loony-Toons Left saves spotted owls while advocating for infanticide and war against White Oppression – the fascists moan about being called anti-Semites and white supremacists; even as they condemn the filthy Jews. Certainly, it is like a spiritual condition, or even a sickness, how some people will insert “Jew” into the commentary of every blog post. But don’t you dare call them anti-Semites.
I get it, okay?
You call them Jews even when only some of them are. It may be true, but it’s not accurate. Yet, why do they persist in pounding out that inaccuracy over and over and over again, ad-nauseum?
Certainly, however, they can do what they want. As for me? I will use the terms military industrial complex, secret societies, round-table groups, deep state, illuminati, luciferians, Satanists, freemasons, neocons, elite bankers, global elite, or similar. This way the full target remains in my sights and in focus.
I will also, at the same time, not trust Israel and will agree no person, tribe, or nation, is immune from criticism. Let the best ideas win. Do not give Israel one penny. If God is behind them, they don’t need money from the U.S. anyway. If they are counterfeit Israel, then they can sink or swim on their own accord. Either way, it’s not our country’s business advocating for them with either American treasure or blood. We should bring our troops home from foreign shores rather than fighting to benefit Israel; especially if God is involved. Because if God and the devil are, indeed, going at it – then this Fourth Turning is going to be a bitch.
I truly don’t know if unseen deities are managing the modern nation of Israel, but I do know the Bible is very clear that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, is a Zionist. And if the Bible were true, then it’s also clear he manhandles Israelites for His own purposes, especially, whenever Israelites act like Satan’s mistress.
There are those who point out ten prophecies that were fulfilled by modern Israel in 1948, as well as 54 prophecies fulfilled in the last 60 years.
Not true, right?
But then, in 2014, events like this were reported in the media:
The commander said the Hamas-fired rocket was headed for Tel Aviv when a strong, unexpected gust of wind pushed it out to sea — saving countless lives, according a translated version of the story published by Israel Today.
Israel Today also reported an account from Givati Infantry Brigade Col. Ofer Winter of a “mysterious fog” that covered his troops as they advanced on a Hamas stronghold earlier in the conflict. Winter claimed his men were saved by divine intervention after they were unable to carry out a planned nighttime raid.
Then you look at every war Israel has fought since 1948; really study those wars, and more questions are raised.
At the end January of 2019 there were reports that a team of Israeli scientists might have found the first complete cure for cancer. Although I hold strong reservations regarding the accuracy of any cancer cure as reported – at the same time, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a team of Jews who ultimately figure it out. Would you?
In another piece about that alleged discovery, it said this:
Israel has become a technology superpower, despite a tiny population and many discriminatory practices overseas, including the noxious BDS movement (boycott, divestment, sanctions) that seeks economic strangulation of Israeli enterprise.
Success in foiling Israeli entrepreneurship would stifle one of the world’s most important sources of scientific and technological innovation, one that has fostered a unique hi-tech ecosystem that generates new firms and new technology, offering innovations that can change the world for the better. The normally anti-Israel BBC examined Israel’s success in cyber-security innovation and pointed to a number of factors that may not be reproducible anywhere else in the world.
Indeed. Innovations that can “change the world for the better”. And maybe even for the worse. Like Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde; or two faces on the same coin flipping through the air to see which side lands face down. Obviously, Jews on average have high intelligence. If it wasn’t bestowed by God, then it must have been their kosher diet and lack of inbreeding. I don’t know.
In any event, as far as this blogger is concerned, the jury is still out on SOME Jews. I’m also not sure if the secular nation of Israel factors in completely with the New World Order; or not. But I do believe a strongman is on the way and could be either a nationalist fascist or a globalist communist. A reader on my blog once e-mailed me a fascinating breakdown of how he thought the forthcoming strongman could be one who sacrifices the swamp and, by the appearance of cleaning house, draws the unified adoration of the global population. But I also would not be surprised if the dark powers elevate someone with their doctorate in Liberation Theology.
Whether by secularism or a theocracy, I still contend ideology trumps (((DNA))).
The new boss could even be driven by an anima mundi or zeitgeist that doesn’t (necessarily) require supernatural or metaphysical roots, so to speak. Of course, anything is possible; including the “spirit” of the “new religion” as being simply an evolutionary faith in men becoming “like gods”.
Look to history: How many tin-pot dictators believed they were either god, or like god. This, perhaps, explains why power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Just because we have advanced technology in our time, does not mean we are any better or more spiritually advanced. When Man gains new power, he always uses it to further his own ends; then later always justifies the means.
The modern technocracy could be just like that; except even worse than in the past.
Consider totalitarianism in all its various forms. Whether the hell on earth is delivered via theology, secularism, fascism, or Marxism – regardless of whoever is paying the bills, they all have one thing in common: They’re all administered by men trying to establish their own versions of heaven on Earth.
Could Israel be that faux cherry on top of the devil’s cake? Maybe. But right now, by no means is Israel even close to being Orwell’s Oceania. Quite the opposite in fact. Israel is a thriving parliamentary democracy with more freedoms than we have here in the United States. The reason is because they have a vibrant political system with at least 17 political parties participating, whereas America has only two parties, or rather, more accurately, fast becoming a uniparty system (like Orwell’s Oceania).
And there is where those who wish to simplify the vilification of ideologies into (((DNA))) might begin to accuse me of being part of the conspiracy. After all, that would be easier, and more gratifying, then considering my perspectives as a free man.
The commonality shared by fascism and Marxism is statism which mandates thought control and we can identify our enemies by their ideas and actions.
I sometimes wonder if we’re all stumbling around the internet like the proverbial blind men circling the elephant and stubbornly and proudly identifying its diverse features like we got it all figured out; and other times like a circular firing squad with guns and fingers pointed around in perfect 360 degrees.
In the end however, in three dimensions, and given the trinity of Man’s body, mind, and spirit – the new Phoenix that will arise from the ashes will very likely take the form of a totalitarian economic, political, and religious technocracy. Of course the economy would be cashless, the laws unjust, and all wrapped into a new religion; or an old one by another name.
In other words: The more things stay the same, the more they change.
Nothing new under the sun.
Certainly the games are well underway as the programming variations complete their final sequences for the concluding computations soon to be applied. Just like clockwork. If we are known by our actions, how will you be remembered? Risky business, indeed.
———–Optional Musical Interlude———–
(Crank it up & hand me my sunglasses)
JOE SOUTH
“Games People Play”
Oh the games people play now
Every night and every day now
Never meaning what they say now
Never saying what they mean
While they wile away the hours
In their ivory towers
Till they’re covered up with flowers
In the back of a black limousine
[Chorus:]
La-da da da da da da da
La-da da da da da de
Talking ’bout you and me
And the games people play
Oh we make one another cry
Break a heart then we say goodbye
Cross our hearts and we hope to die
That the other was to blame
Neither one will give in
So we gaze at an eight by ten
Thinking ’bout the things that might have been
It’s a dirty rotten shame
[Chorus]
People walking up to you
Singing glory hallelulia
And they’re tryin to sock it to you
In the name of the Lord
They’re gonna teach you how to meditate
Read your horoscope, cheat your faith
And further more to hell with hate
Come on and get on board
[Chorus]
Look around tell me what you see
What’s happening to you and me
God grant me the serenity
To remember who I am
Cause you’ve given up your sanity
For your pride and your vanity
Turn your back on humanity
And you don’t give a da da da da da
There really is something happening here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct8IizwCFNA
I hope this is the place to propose that it seems a good time for there be some review of the rules associated with debate and argument.
I know most of the TBP readers are passionate about their views, but perhaps a review of what true intellectual discussion entails, without lecture or scolding, might be in order.
Our current Bard of the Yard has taken the little lamb from school and turned it loose upon the lion. And if “Mary” and the phrase “of Judah” appeared in your thoughts, however briefly, then I’ve reminded you there certain words and phrases which bring other words and phrases to mind, unbidden. I think many of us recognize and embrace the thrill we all feel when Don Quixote rides off to those windmill fields yet again. But, after reading my argument below, Perhaps you will grasp why Don failed to ask himself if tilting at windmills was a good way to spend his time. He engaged in conflict without examining the first premise.
I have pulled out an old book with some really good advice on how to have a valid debate. Since it appears Doug has decided to do it again and lob the first volley, I figured a review of how to argue both logically and passionately would be in order, some rules of the game before the shitballs start flying.
Here is the skeleton and nut graph of the essay.
First Premise: Rules of the Game (Title)
Suppose you were standing on the field of debate, where one team argued our point of view with a field of would-be-debaters with multiple and unique points of view glaring at our own. Suppose everyone started yelling their viewpoint without order or clarity trying to drown out the other points of view most odious. Mayhem might ensue.
At one time, when I was young and being taught how civil society works, there was a time and a place to put thought into words. Even controversial topics could be argued with quiet voices, in reasoned discussion and heated debate. The rules of polite society dictated that reasoned discussion occur.
Of course, that was the 1960s and several key assassinations happened, so perhaps personal anecdote does not work well here. See points below.
Arguments contain premises. Those premises lead to a conclusion. Opponents should attack the validity of arguments, not the actual debater. Respect points of view from any and all who are willing to debate on the field. Silence is a good rebuke for those who ignore the rules.
If Truth and Falsehood are really about to grapple on that fair playing field, then someone should start enforcing the rules of the game. Which implies there are rules of the game. I think those rules need to be agreed upon and defined.
In a way, an argument is somewhat similar to a sports game in that the first premise to opponents entering the field of debate should be that each player understands the rules of the game. (A civil argument “field” is open to any debaters regardless of point of view, as long as they agree to abide by the first premise: State your argument and move on. f you are relevant to First Premise, your idea might take legs and walk.
Only arguments worth debating get addressed. That will occur naturally. Some topics seem controversial but when actually discussed in controlled debate, they are much simpler to grasp and address. So, in a good argument, the question ipresented can be answered Yes or No, with qualifiers for both, perhaps, but maybe is not allowed. Like tic-tac-toe, an argument which cannot be won is unworthy of our time. Unless that is the goal. If keeping everyone arguing issues which cannot be resolved is a goal, then the people arguing are probably not even at the game.
NUT GRAPH: the rules of the game should help guide a civil discussion between any and all points of view, especially those that rhyme with the topic
1. Rule about First Premise: The very first rule to any argument is a finetoothed comb inspection of the first premise of the game. Is that premise valid?
2. Rule about the Next Premise: Does this premise depend on the validity of the all important First Premise? If so, go back and do a finetoothed comb inspection on the relationship between this premise and the one before it all the way back to the Holy First Premise, which is the foundation upon which all arguments stand. It is, the stepping off point to suspend disbelief.
3. Rule about How to Avoid Ambiguity. You can’t possibly expect someone to accept your point of view if the words you choose to use fail to convince because your opponent is not sure you meant to say what you said or that you said what they think you meant. Play with words if you like, but when it comes to your point? Make it. Leave the wordsmithing to the poets and punny men. No one does it better, if you get my hidden meaning.
4. Rule about how to detect bullying versus arguing. Well, be very suspicious of adjectives that cause you to cringe or get angry. Take a good scrutinizing look at that suspicious little perjorative adjective and ask yourself why your opponent chose that word. Did that adjective earn its place in the sentence alongside other words vital to convey meaning? Or did that adjective force its way in through point of view, to hurl itself at you and make you forget to pause and review the First Premise. If adjectives are used which are not relevant and the source material is poor to nonexistent, you are being bullied. Try not to respond in kind. It makes your own argument suspect.
5. Be Consistent. Don’t alter the meaning of words, depending upon which paragraph we are in and who we are addressing. Controversial topics require a certain level of respect and care to discuss. Don’t complicate the issue by using satire to address something hurtful. Frogs in blenders are not funny when they are read all over.
Not too shabby for a first draft, eh? It is just an idea on a windy Wednesday.
I’m sure I put this link here for good reason, but for the life of me can’t remember why. Oh, I know…
https://www.walmart.com/ip/A-Rulebook-for-Arguments/10773005
https://ifarus.com/rulebook-for-arguments-anthony-weston
What DOES this button do?
DD,
We don’t need no stinking rules here, ceviche?
Adim doesn’t refer to everyone here as Shit Throwing Monkeys for no reason.
In fact, admin used to take polls. He would ask the question and then tell everyone to pick A, B or C as their answer. Shit, no one picked A, B or C. They simply picked D or 3 or Other or… We can’t even follow simple instructions and you throw don’t a 2 page rule book?
Bwahahababa.
The first rule in Fight Club is there are no rules.
I thought it was to never talk about fight club. See? You blabbed.
Listen, Bea, there really is some real potential to find some shared points of view. There have been some viewpoints shared that suggest they are willing to discuss WHY they believe as they do instead of demanding they just shut up.
I am not being pompous or pretentious. When my friend, who proclaims to have “THE” answer from God himself because her own dear husband is walking there with the Lord in the Garden, according to her, well, when she replied to my request she give my “friend’s” essay intro a review with an immediate “Whether she knows it or not she’s anti-Semite” just because of the sources Mary cited. She also suggested, as my elder (tried to pull rank) I should stay away from the author.. she was talking about Mary! It made me wonder who gets to decide whose point of view gets heard and gets further attention.
Well, it should be the listener, shouldn’t it? Or should it be other would-be debaters whose very own prejudice prevents them from allowing other viewpoints at all?
Double D- Open forum, no rules. One author listed the players, one did not. We are not debating apples to apples, now are we? Sprinkling glitter on unicorn farts does not make for truthiness.
See, you can’t even ask questions without having epithets hurled at you. Don’t question anything, ever. When I was in school at St. Agnes I raised my hand with a question about how the pope could be considered infallible and isn’t that like equating him with God? I was told to sit down and shut up.
I was in college during the Clinton years. Pretty much all of them.
I got very interested in the art of writing questions for surveys. Framing questions is more effective than many techniques for molding opinion. If one is very skilled at it, one can predict the outcome of many surveys if one reads the questions in order and steps back to assess the intended goal of the survey’s creator.
Do you know who the MOST HATED person on any survey about bigotry?
A Bigot. No one is willing to allow that bigot’s point of view to enter to field of debate, while others will duct tape my mouth shut on sight.
A paradox worthy of aanother look another day, but not today.
Just because you think I have no right to speak does not mean that I think that you do. DD
And you can quote me on that. I just made it up.
Just because you think I have no right to speak does not mean that I think that you do. DD
Worthy of note.
Dees, not getting into the middle of this, but coming from a tangent. If some weenie approaches me and trys to stuff a paper survey in my face I politely accept it and then tear it up right in front of him. The look: priceless.
I have always suspected there is fine art in creating survey questions and the goal is never getting the truth, rather getting the desired response that will statistically manipulate and create the new version of the truth that the puppet masters want.
I would value further discussion of the paradox you mention on a day of your choice.
I really don’t think it worth more than a comment or two more. I simply meant it as a way to demonstrate my point about civil discourse and debate.
Most of us want to react immediately against a viewpoint with which we strongly disagree. When I find myself wanting to shut someone down for a simple opinion, I examine that opinion a bit closely, to see why. Sometimes, the shutdown is warranted. Other times, I have adjusted my viewpoint accordingly.
It is not necessary to agree with the opposing side, but it is helpful to at least understand what the opposing side claims to believe and not just what someone else says they believe.
Just because I acknowledge your right to ignore anything I say doesn’t mean I don’t have the right to ignore you right back.
BREAKING NEWS: I just saw that Huma’s old Weiner is being released to a half way house. Time to hide all the phones that little girls own. Maybe hil and bil can find room for him at their place.
Okay, MC… here’s the deal. I sent an email to my Family of Families friend asking that she review Doug’s article and give me her impression of it.
Now, if she informs me (like when she read YOURS) that Doug is anti-Semitic whether he knows it or not, then I may very well “reassess” my relationship with the Holy Woman who travels to Israel to find the remnant every year. (Hyperbole… she goes annually because she really believes she is called.) I respect her beliefs and her intellect, which is keen. (If you are here, this is me and I mean it sincerely, but… read on.)
But, when I asked her to read MC’s Awful Truth, I did NOT tell her I knew MC at all, just asked for her “opinion” on the piece.
This time, because Doug is such a snowflake and might not be able to take it (tee hee), I sent an introductory sentence or two asking her to consider my blogopal’s response/reaction to MC’s Awful Truth. I told her I believed he’d made a reasonable attempt to add some perspective.
I have not heard back and I have not read any comments added after my contact to her. I may be shunned, but that’s okay. I’ve been shunned by better and I’ve been shunned by worse. I’m actually quite unshunnable.
Maggie you do tend to ramble on now don’t you.
Were you wearing the navy blue pleated skirt or the gray skirt that day? The girls at the St. Agnes near me preferred the blue-I always thought that made them dignified and classy looking.
Donkey Balls,
Rules reinforce thought control. So I’m with You! If someone wants to act like a douchebag, who am I to stop them. At least I learned something about that person. Same can be said for an hiuone who enacts ad hominem or Straw man arguments. This provides the opportunity for discourse and someone else pointing these tactics out. Which is what provides the flamewars that are lauded and celebrates here on THE BURNING PLATFORM!
NEWBS be Warned!
DD said,
I like how you were specific eith the word choice, using “adjectives” to describe people, groups or institutions is much more helpful than using “nouns” to classify people, groups or institutions.
Using nouns is a quick and lazy way to classify and file away someone or something. The use of nouns is always used in dehumanization and demonization tactics. Weak sauce!!
Thank you for being specific.
No right, well gentlemen, I’ll just remind you of the faculty rules: Rule one – no pooftahs. Rule two, no member of the faculty is to maltreat the Abbots in any way whatsoever – if there’s anybody watching. Rule three – no pooftahs. Rule four – I don’t want to catch anyone not drinking in their room after lights out. Rule five – no pooftahs. Rule six – there is no rule six! Rule seven – no pooftahs. That concludes the reading of the rules, Bruce.
Robert (QSLV)
Viet Nam, Cambodia, Bosnia and all the rest- what tragic memories this song brings. War on steroids. The killing, human destruction, is a never ending “game” all paid for and manipulated by the big money boys and heralded by most deceived Americans to cull the masses. “We’ll put a boot in yer ass!” Time to become UN-deceived!
Bitter Sweet ! Sweet, because I was a kid !
I remember sitting on the floor watching the news in black and white, and it showed that iconic scene where that poor little burnt girl (napalmed) !
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- collateral damage !!
It was a horrific incident/picture. The bombing was also done by the South Vietnameese, no Americans were involved. There are however some other sides to the story. I’m familar with the story and her visit to the Wall and the Minister who at the Wall passed her a note and said he was responsible…for the bombing…and her forgivness of him. But the Minister lied and then said he just exagerated.
Vietnam napalm strike: the myth of Kim Phuc
https://www.warbirdforum.com/vphoto.htm
Below is what you see if you try and use Google to pull up the above website. Had to use Duckduckgo to post this.
Forbidden: You don’t have permission to access /vphoto.htm on this server.
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Veteran’s admission to napalm victim a lie Minister says he never meant to deceive with ‘story of forgiveness’
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1997-12-14-1997348085-story.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRwUlLahpiI
Dead frickin’ Kennedys…I was listening to them back in the early 80s. ‘Police Truck’, Too Drunk To Fuck’, and this perennial favorite. They’ve messed some of the lyrics up, here and there.
Great song and viddy NM (no more?)! Got me thinking of reparations. (or at least, realization of some things)
I had to search deep for the full lyrics of Public Enemy’s “He Got Game” to the tune of the Buffalo Springfield sample track. I am not sure how it fits here but I hear in the lyrics things to acknowledge that fits in the narrative I follow; here and elsewhere. (I admit I wanted to see Flavor Flav’s necklace clock with a tooth at 12,3,6 and 9) Doug’s use of Joe South’s anthem was perfect punctuation on his masterful missive. Thanks ever so much. Again it is A Gain for me imo.
Damn was it somethin I said
Pretend you don’t see
So you turn your head
Race scared of it’s shadow
Does it matter?
Thought of reperations
Got em playin wit the population
Nothing to lose
Everythings approved
People used
Even murders excused
White men in suits
Don’t have to jump
Still there’s 1001 ways
To lose wit the shoes
God takes care of ol folks and fools
While the devil takes care
Of makin all the rules
Folks don’t even own themselves
Payin mental rent
To corporate presidents
1 outta 1 million residents
Being dissident
Who ain’t kissin it
The politics of chains and whips
Got the sick
Missin chips and all the championships
What’s love got to do
Wit what you got
Don’t let a win get to your head
Or a loss to your heart
Nonsense perseveres
Prayers laced wit fear
Beware
2 triple O is near
Joe South was my first choice with the ending I have above. But, in keeping with the Games People Play theme, I had another ending whereby I was hoping to draw commentary in answer to this final question:
“Where do we go from here?”
Then, allowing Alan Parsons play out phantasmally. Plus the pyramid and all…
Thanks for the input… Dougie’s “MASTERFUL MISSIVE” made me laugh.
The nm was indeed “no more” and refers to a bit of tbp shapeshifting
An excellent video/blend, by the way. I didn’t know of it.
The reason the Buffalo Springfield tune came to mind (and I posted it immediately, wanting to be #1!!!!) is because of the odd reaction the topic caused in a couple of people I believe to be rational and reasonable adults with the ability to read and comprehend.
So… your contribution is very much in line…
As for reparations? If any were ever owed anyone, they’ve been paid in full and are overpaid.
Damn was it somethin I said
Pretend you don’t see
So you turn your head
Race scared of it’s shadow
Does it matter?
Thought of reperations
Got em playin wit the population
Nothing to lose
Everythings approved
People used
Even murders excused
White men in suits
Don’t have to jump
Still there’s 1001 ways
To lose wit the shoes
God takes care of ol folks and fools
While the devil takes care
Of makin all the rules
Folks don’t even own themselves
Payin mental rent
To corporate presidents
1 outta 1 million residents
Being dissident
Who ain’t kissin it
The politics of chains and whips
Got the sick
Missin chips and all the championships
What’s love got to do
Wit what you got
Don’t let a win get to your head
Or a loss to your heart
Nonsense perseveres
Prayers laced wit fear
Beware
2 triple O is near
I actually started to write something about how much I like this video Claude, but I locked myself out of my own thoughts.
Now, goats.
That’s a novel excuse, locking yourself out of your mind.
I bounce in and outta here, but each time I roll down to the comments I play it again.
Music !
Round about this same time, the Man in Black with “Goin by the Book”, wasn’t it?
-annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-I don’t know much about music, other than I know what I like. When I was in grade school, I used to have to stay in at recess so the teacher could help me work on my ‘doe rae mes’…..didn’t stick. They told me I couldn’t carry a tune in a bucket, haha
Thanks for posting it
It’s Jews all the way down.
The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit: And Its Impact on World History (full unabridged version) by E. Michael Jones
https://wrathoftheawakenedsaxon.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/jewspirit2.pdf
Revelation 3:9
I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars–I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.
Flash,
You’re an old-timer here, so maybe you can help me out: How do you define “Jew”?
Because I was thinking as I was writing this piece, if there were a solid definition, and if those occupying the very tippy-top of the pyramid met that definition – then we might have something? And, if so, they would be magic men indeed to have cast their spell over the rest of the pyramid.
Then, in in that scenario, what is the glue that binds? Hypnosis? Language?
Honestly, I’m not trying to pick a fight here. I really am wanting to figure this out
Jew is a theological construct. Jews are rejectors of Christ , thus embracers of sin or Satan .
Have We All Become Jews? – E Michael Jones
Well, although there are many non-believers who are neither of Jewish lineage nor worshippers of Lucifer, per se, I do appreciate your answer. It would seem to coincide with what the Bible says about the spirit of the anti-messiah, or antichrist, now (as some believe) at work in the world.
Your definition would also, obviously, meet the threshold of those peering through the eye of the pyramid.
However, it is certainly unfair to those of Jewish lineage who are also Christians, to be conflated to the vampires – in my opinion.
Hence, this article.
Thanks, Flash.
1) If you reject Christ , you become a de facto Luciferian.
2) Jews that become Christians are no longer Jews. They are Christian .
Flash says:
That’s an interesting notion and food for thought. Thanks
Reminds me of Galatians 3:38-29:
Don’t totally get that, but OK
It also calls to mind JC’s “love your enemies” and First John’s (4:18) assertions as follows:
I don’t totally get that either, but probably because my love isn’t perfect and because I learned over time that, in most cases, fear is false evidence appearing real.
But maybe that’s about to change now that the games are underway. I don’t know
It is only an end sum game in your mind flash.
Flash. Jews came first. Christ was a jew who rejected the basic tenants of Judaism so it is christ who embraced sin or satan.
HR I’m afraid Christianity is not your academic strong suit. As a matter of fact you are incredibly ignorant on the subject.
Jesus came to fulfill both prophecy and the law given to Moses. His Jewish brethren, as was demonstrated throughout their history, rejected God yet again and in rebellion embraced sin. As it continues today. Are you Jewish?
Good post.
Jesus even commanded the Apostles to preach first unto the Jews to give a chance to honour God’s Chosen, then to the rest of sinners, as shown in Acts 1:8
” But ye shall receive power after the Holy Ghost is come upon you; and ye shall be witnesses unto Me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”
Samaria was considered the home of infidel Jews by the Jews of Judea.
See John 4
You seem to be white, but a rationalist you most certainly are not. Perhaps a lunatic bible thumper who lives with his sister and goes to church on sunday, but rational. No. I think I will stick with Doug’s interpretation of the bible. Yours is tainted with the blood of a thousand years of morons.
Oh, and no. Jesus didn’t fulfull any prophecies. His butt buddies and the myriad of other butt buddies that followed in their beds made up the entire NT to make it appear that jesus was the go to guy. And you and your kin fell for it. Not a single member of jesus’ followers was literate. The gospels that you quote were written by gays who lived almost 100 years after jesus died.
Jesus was a jew. Born a jew. Married a jewish woman. Had jewish kids. Died a jew. It was the gays who turned him into a christian.
https://www.thoughtco.com/prophecies-of-jesus-fulfilled-700159
A Statistical Improbability
“Some Bible scholars suggest there are more than 300 prophetic Scriptures completed in the life of Jesus. Circumstances such as his birthplace, lineage, and method of execution were beyond his control and could not have been accidentally or deliberately fulfilled.
In the book Science Speaks, Peter Stoner and Robert Newman discuss the statistical improbability of one man, whether accidentally or deliberately, fulfilling just eight of the prophecies Jesus fulfilled.
The chance of this happening, they say, is 1 in 1017 power. Stoner gives an illustration that helps visualize the magnitude of such odds:
Suppose that we take 1017 silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas. They will cover all of the state two feet deep. Now mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly, all over the state. Blindfold a man and tell him that he can travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick up one silver dollar and say that this is the right one. What chance would he have of getting the right one? Just the same chance that the prophets would have had of writing these eight prophecies and having them all come true in any one man, from their day to the present time, providing they wrote using their own wisdom.
The mathematical improbability of 300, or 44, or even just eight fulfilled prophesies of Jesus stands as evidence to his messiahship.”
With all due respect, the only problem is the only written sources were written 100 years later. With no 1st hand accounts, you could pretty much write everything to fit. Worse, a religious con artist could attempt to fulfill prophecies on purpose and lie about the rest to attract believers. That certainly happens today. Not saying JC is a fake, but it wouldn’t be a big surprise if he was.
It would be impossible for JC to be a fake Gilbert.
https://www.str.org/articles/is-the-new-testament-text-reliable
‘The question of authenticity is not really a religious concern at all; it’s an academic one. It can be answered in an academic way totally unrelated to spiritual convictions by a simple appeal to facts’
Well Carl, as Gilbert points out, academically not one single person who wrote the NT knew Christ. In fact, their grand fathers didn’t know christ. At best, it was their great grandfathers who actually walked the roads with christ.
But it is not academically possible for that to be the case as all of the apostles eschewed female contact so they never reproduced…academically. In the book of Mary it is explained that the other apostles did not like Mary because jesus liked her best. “in the Gospel of Mary it is Peter who is opposed to Mary’s words, because she is a woman.” So I am not academically claiming that jesus was gay, rather that his followers were and therefore, academically, none of them could have had any great grand children to write the gospels.
For your interest and study:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mary
Mr. Rob,
It is beyond dispute that the New Testament has superior to scholarship than any other historical record. It is undeniable and you might consider researching this yourself. Why do you suppose all of the apostles died martyrs deaths? For a lie? Why do you suppose we mark our time by A.D. and C.E.” For a myth?
Yes, for a myth. There is only one historical mention of jesus outside of your good book. It comes from a Roman mention of his brother, who was the brother of one called the christ. Beyond that, there is no historical record of the man.
You are required to take it on faith. That is why it is called a faith. You follow the christian faith. You can believe it. Kings can believe it. Emperors can believe it. But that does not mean that it isn’t myth. That just means that it is a myth that you have FAITH in.
Now, that would be fine if it weren’t for the disquieting fact that there are others who believe in different myths. RiNS for instance, Odin be praised. Or perhaps we could offer up muslims as believing in a different myth.
How does the old saying go? “A myth is as good as a mile.”
HR, you’re showing your ignorance again! “There is only one historical mention of jesus outside of your good book” Try reading Tacitus, Pliny the younger, Josephus, Lucian and the Babylonian Talmud.
You are a fool IF you take wikipedia articles as completely truthful!!! Anyone can write whatever they believe and back it up with footnotes from anyone’s opinions who believes as they do, as if it is really a fact and it gets accepted by the eggheads at wiki!
You wrote “not one single person who wrote the NT knew Christ” Then who was Matthew, John, Peter, and Paul? No autograph has been found, only copies but does that mean these people never wrote them?
The more I read your various post the more fitting I find your moniker includes ‘Hollywood’.
Paul may have never met him while he was alive, yes Matthew, John and certainly Peter. Hollywood Rob is reading something very different than I have.
Shirley MacLaine, once stated with authority. I believe in her book “Out on a Limb” that the early Church changed the Bible to fit it’s needs, like repressing women, etc., at the council of Nicea in 540 AD or some such number. (Can’t remember exactly)
Back in the day there wasn’t an Internet, but I fact checked her, because it didn’t ring true to me. Council of Nicea was in 325 AD and principally established the nature of Christ. She obviously didn’t do the research, but was just spouting off, what she believed or what someone told her. The bottom line was she wasn’t even close on the date or what it was about, just pulling stuff out of her butt, like Hollywood Rob.
Looks like you haven’t done a historical study of this stuff. “Academically not one person who wrote the NT knew Christ.” What does that even mean?
I confess that there is argument on who wrote the Gospel of John, but many scholars believe it was the Apostle John. So if this is the case then John knew Christ personally and that torpedoes your argument.
I don’t know where you get your information [google?] about the early church, but they sound agnostic, even atheist in fact because they have no idea when [according to scholars] the various books were written. Mat 67-68 AD, Mark 67-68, Luke 58-60 [from ‘eye witnesses’ he talked with] and John 90AD.
“With no 1st hand accounts”, then who was John? Luke ‘interviewed’ MANY eye witnesses who followed Yahshua.
The NT gospels and epistles started to be collected together starting about 100AD
So Michael, you admit that none of the writers of the nt gospels were intimates of christ. You know that the people who wrote those gospels were not named Mat, Mark, Luke, nor John.
If you have read any of the sources you quote, you most certainly must know that Tacitus was born 25 years after christ died. You know that none of the sources that you quote actually knew christ. The best you can hope for is that there were indeed people named Tacitus, and Pliny. But you actually know that they did not meet or talk to christ.
All of your sources are corrupted by the mythology, and you know it. Maybe your best hope is that the corruption of the ideology began less than 100 years after christs death but the last bomb you dropped was some two thousand years after his death.
Yahshua is one proposed transliteration of the original Hebrew or Aramaic name of Jesus commonly used by individuals in the Sacred Name Movement. The English spelling Yahshua originates at least as early as 1950 with Angelo Traina’s The New Testament of our Messiah and Saviour Yahshua.
The Gospels were all written against first hand accounts. As for people lying about things, that certainly could happen. As for the oldest manuscript still in existence, the Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, were probably commissioned by Emperor Constantine in 325 AD.
“Oh, and no. Jesus didn’t fulfull any prophecies. His butt buddies and the myriad of other butt buddies that followed in their beds made up the entire NT to make it appear that jesus was the go to guy. And you and your kin fell for it. Not a single member of jesus’ followers was literate. The gospels that you quote were written by gays who lived almost 100 years after jesus died”
“No. I think I will stick with Doug’s interpretation of the bible. Yours is tainted with the blood of a thousand years of morons.”
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-You think that’s Doug’s interpretation of the Bible???
No. The Book of Mark was authored around 45 AD. Revelations was the latest book done 90 ADish. All others fall in between these dates. Paul, who was not one of the original 12, was very literate and wrote many of the NT books. Luke who wrote Luke and Acts was a Doctor. Some other other books written by those who were probably illiterate, were dictated to scribes, or ones who knew how to write. As for gays writing the NT? I guess I missed that one. I’m not saying there were no gays involved, but this a new one to me, and I’ve been around a little while.
A rationalist engaging in projection. An oxymoron if ever there was.
leave odin out of it
You can’t leave Odin out of it. He is the one true god.
Odin or Wotan, Satan’s brother.
tenets
Also, this has got to be one of the dumbest comments ever posted here. Ever.
No kidding.
I would say the least informed. Just because I don’t think Hollywood is dumb.
Plus, I thought I saw a chance to EC ya !
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum
I take that back, EC ! From a later comment of unholywood:
“Oh, and no. Jesus didn’t fulfull any prophecies. His butt buddies and the myriad of other butt buddies that followed in their beds made up the entire NT to make it appear that jesus was the go to guy. And you and your kin fell for it. Not a single member of jesus’ followers was literate. The gospels that you quote were written by gays who lived almost 100 years after jesus died”
That’s the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen posted here !
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-
Judaism is not the religion of the ancient Hebrews. Judaism is younger than Christianity. Regardless you are partly correct. Jesus, even though it came after the Resurrection, did reject it, because it is heresy against the world of God i.e. sin.
My understanding is that “Jews” as used in the Bible are “Hebrews” or followers of Moses who lived in Judea. Other “Hebrews” from other counties or provinces or whatever had other names like the Samaritans. You may recall in the gospel references to Hebrew practitioners as “Greek or Jew” as well. Then there were those subdivisions called Pharisees or Sadducees and on and on. I believe the Sadducees were the guys whose tables were overturned in the temple by Jesus.
Anyone talking about “the Jews” as if it was and is a monolith is simply being disingenuous or displaying ignorance.
Stucky or Grace Country Preacher might correct you. Jesus picked on the Pharisees for commercializing religion. Paul argued with the Sadducees over the question of resurrection.
I don’t know how you co-mingled Greeks and Jews under the ‘Hebrew’ umbrella, as I understood it, Greeks are goys, same as the Romans who replaced their the government.
Maybe you wanted to make a distinction between Jews and Samaritans. You are confusing me or yourself with these peoples that you think are interchangeable.
Let’s use an easy updated model: Let Jews be represented by the term “White”. Pharisees and Sadducees are represented by Republican or Democrat. Greeks are Black, Samaritans are Beaners. Try your comment again.
“Stucky or Grace Country Preacher might correct you.”
Not me.
I’m done correcting people. I’m done arguing about religion. Perhaps no one has noticed, but I don’t write religious articles anymore … and I rarely ever make comments about religion.
GCP ruined it all for me. Let him be your expert.
Stuck caved like a cheap cave. (It’s a cheap simile but it does the job.)
The word “Jew” does not appear in the NT. The Greek word translated as “jew” is Ioudaios. It means Judean. Judea in Greek is Ioudaia.
According to the good book, Abraham’s grandson, Jacob wrestled with God and had his name changed (by God) to “Israel” – (hence the meaning “wrestles with God). Israel had 12 sons (12 tribes of Israel) one of whom was named Judah (which means “praise”) from which JC descended. The Tribe of Judah became known as the “Jews” which preceded Christ by more than a millennium?
But a lot of folks believe that is all just fairy tales anyway. So there’s that to consider as well before any serious debates get started over things like that
First, to examine your premise. The Israelites of the Bible are not in any way connected to those who call themselves Jews, or Israelis. The true Israelites, including all thirteen tribes are in truth, the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred people.
The impostors who are claiming to be Semites are not, but are descendants of Esau/Edom, or Edomites, who were sworn enemies of the Israel. They still hold a hatred for true Israel, but of their lost birthright, which Esau sold for a bowl of red porridge.
So, your entire argment is based upon the false premise that the Jews of today are somehow direct descendants of the Israelites of the Bible, which is totally and completely false.
Abraham was promised to be the father of many nations, plural, not just one little plot of sand in the Middle East. The tribes of Israel are not lost, but can easily be identified, as the USA is the new Jerusalem, which was promised and is accurately described and having and eastern sea and a western sea. This nation is the regathering of Israel, with all the tribes gathering in their new land and living under the eagle of Manassah, who was the younger brother of Ephraim, who is the progenitor of the present day Great Britain. We are referred to as Caucasians because our ancestors crossed over the Caucasus mountains to settle Europe.
Why do you think all of the White Christian European nations are the only nations being polluted and attacked by mobs of Africans and Muslim invaders? Germany’s prime minister is a Jew from Poland that also served as East German Stasi agent before being selected to reign over the destruction of the German people. Then same goes for Sweden, France and other nations that are targeted to breed the white Europeans out of existence.
The plan was laid out in detail in the Jew’s own “Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Get a copy and read it, it reads like today’s headlines. Multiculturalism was introduced by Jewish “change agents” to destroy America and all of the European countries that had predominately white populations.
Read the book “The Thirteenth Tribe” that admittedly states the Jews are the “destroyers.”
They start with the currency and then attack the racial and moral foundations of a nation until it topples into rubble. Make no mistake, today the financial system, Congress, MSM, etc., is all totally and completely controlled by Jewish elements and they are not the apple of God’s eye, at least not the God of Israel’s eye, but they are the Synagogue of Satan as is referenced in our Christian Bible.
I admonish all concerned not to be deceived by these deceivers, but to study and show thyself approved.
Years ago, I read a book titled something like “The U.S. and Great Britain in Bible Prophecy”…can’t remember the author/theologian/preacher’s name.
This sounds very much like that, and most certainly is a valid position, or at least as ‘valid’ as many.
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- what was that guy’s name?
Worldwide Church of God, Pasadena California.
Herbert W. Armstrong, founder.
British Israelism was his claim to fame.
Pretty compelling stuff but then again so was Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard.
It was discovered, shortly before old Herb died, that he got his information from mainstream periodicals. He cheerfully claimed that they qualified as ‘revelation’.
Scientology blackmails the poor saps who reveal incriminatory stuff about themselves. An updated version is called Facebook.
Oh my god. From order chaos has read a book. That changes everything. I withdraw all of my former comments.
Haha..read more than one. Maybe you ought to read one-the Bible.
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- I don’t mind being poor, stupid, or old. What I do wonder about is how someone can have such blind hate and bigotry, and still consider themselves intelligent.
BTW- I took time to read the about the ‘definition’ of evil you posted-
I wasn’t impressed, but I’m sure you were proud of it. Hell, boy, I pity you !!
Slinging long strings of latin does not indicate understanding. Slinging the same long strings of latin over and over again does not indicate understanding. Reading the bible, the greatest work of fiction on the shelves today, does not mean that you learned even a little real history. If you read the bible and believed it that is your own chosen fate. If you wallow in the slop of biblical teachings you will forever remain a pig.
Oh and seeing as you apparently don’t read all of the comments, I will once again invite you, from all of your study, to present for our consideration your own definition of evil. While the above paragraph was intended to be cruel, this one is not. I invite you to formulate a more complete understanding of evil, and to write a post yourself. Comments are great but more can be learned by a well reasoned essay than by a couple of snarky quips.
Write your own thoughts, like Doug did, and email them to Jim. I have never seen him deny a post save for when someone else managed to post the same thing first.
Give it a try.
I don’t need a whole essay for what I believe….
Evil=EVERYTHING except the I Am, that I Am.
…wouldn’t say I can’t write one, I’m just confident that I could not do the subject justice. I think you misunderstood me, I was unimpressed with the subject matter, I meant no insult towards your writing skills.
For the most part, I read every comment that is posted on each ‘article’. Just FYI…
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- you sling this latin phrase around every time you spend a dollar bill.
I have rarely encountered an individual with such a sense of self aggrandization as you possess. (that’s just me, trying to sound smart like you)
Where I live, we would just say you’re an arrogant little piss ant
Your five cent brain is having trouble with the dollar words you are trying to use. Nobody where you live uses the term arrogant little piss ant. Well clearly that’s not true because you still use it but let’s just agree that nobody else where you live uses that phrase.
I guess what you are trying to say is that your god is the one true god and evil is everything else. And yet you have the unmitigated gall to call me arrogant. Your concept of evil is myopic and useless. I can only hope that you learn a little bit from this discussion.
You funny, fur shure !
“You seem to be white, but a rationalist you most certainly are not. Perhaps a lunatic bible thumper who lives with his sister and goes to church on sunday, but rational. No. I think I will stick with Doug’s interpretation of the bible. Yours is tainted with the blood of a thousand years of morons.
Oh, and no. Jesus didn’t fulfull any prophecies. His butt buddies and the myriad of other butt buddies that followed in their beds made up the entire NT to make it appear that jesus was the go to guy. And you and your kin fell for it. Not a single member of jesus’ followers was literate. The gospels that you quote were written by gays who lived almost 100 years after jesus died.
Jesus was a jew. Born a jew. Married a jewish woman. Had jewish kids. Died a jew. It was the gays who turned him into a christian.”
“Well Carl, as Gilbert points out, academically not one single person who wrote the NT knew Christ. In fact, their grand fathers didn’t know christ. At best, it was their great grandfathers who actually walked the roads with christ.
But it is not academically possible for that to be the case as all of the apostles eschewed female contact so they never reproduced…academically. In the book of Mary it is explained that the other apostles did not like Mary because jesus liked her best. “in the Gospel of Mary it is Peter who is opposed to Mary’s words, because she is a woman.” So I am not academically claiming that jesus was gay, rather that his followers were and therefore, academically, none of them could have had any great grand children to write the gospels”
I had a long comment typed, then, as normal with this site, stutter, blink, blink, blackedout, and booted off….ain’t worth messin with it
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-academically, how could you know whether or not the term ‘piss ant’ is used where I live, huh, Piss Ant?
Academically, do you think a spiritual force can have any impact on matter?
No. Why would you ask such a silly question?
I ask only because my God is not affected by natural laws of the universe, He made them: (cursor already bouncing around-GRRRR)
Time, Space, Matter-a trinity within a trinity
Time-Past, Future, Present
Space- Length, Width, Height
Matter-Solid, Liquid, Gas
Gen. 1:1 -“In the beginning”-Time: “God created the heaven”-Space: “and the earth”-Matter
Academically (?) called a continuum, all have to come into existence at the same time: matter w/o space-where would you put it?: if there were matter and space, but not time-when would you put it? They have to exist together.
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-this link is the book of ‘Mean Mary’:
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CNB5OLUPM0
You’ve got way more ‘smarts’ than I, but would still like to continue, but this ‘jumpin around BS cursor’ is drivin me nuts !
(2nd part of below comment)
If you don’t think a spiritual force can have any effect on matter, explain to me how emotions such as jealousy, love, hatred, envy, etc. come to be?
You are correct when you say:
“I guess what you are trying to say is that your god is the one true god and evil is everything else.”
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- my God IS God….I can’t explain His existence: if I could, I don’t know how ‘worshipful’ He would be !?
You suggest that I am arrogant, and yet you believe that your God IS God cares about you personally. You out of 7 plus billion people are special to your God IS God. How is this not the height of arrogance?
But anyway, the point of this discussion, and our comments, was the jews and their god. Their god is exactly your god. They wrote the first half of your god book. It does not matter where each of them came from. It does not matter who their daddy was, their mother was, or their great times ten grandfather was. What matters is what they believe and how they act on those beliefs.
In that regard, I suspect that the belief that is most germane is the one that allows them to collect money on lent money. Through out recorded history the jews have been able to collect interest. This is something that the muslims, and obviously the christians were prohibited from doing. So the money changers, who were making money on money, were the only ones who could have performed that function.
In as much as money is power, and I believe that it is, therefore we see the endless stream of jews running the banks and the law. The font from which their power springs.
Who knows why the fable about jesus and the money changers was written. It was most certainly written by a person who only heard it third or forth hand and one can never divine the intend of anyone’s writing, let alone writing separated from the facts by generations. Who ever it was who placed those first marking on papyrus, and what his actual intent was, the other thing that is abundantly clear is that many people have modified what he wrote over the years coming down to the book that you think your God IS God inspired to be written. Some did it on purpose expunging gospels to promote their own vision of the faith. Some did it by mistake because they didn’t really understand the language that the original writing was done in. But for sure, after two thousand years, the text that you consider to be “his word” bears no resemblance to the facts.
At the very least you must admit that it is very unlikely that names like Mary, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John ever existed in the first century Levant. Each of the people involved in writing the original texts had names, but those names were not the ones that you read today. If the names have been changed, how can you trust that other important aspects of the writing have not been changed, along with that money 2000 years ago.
Believe what you will.
“You suggest that I am arrogant, and yet you believe that your God IS God cares about you personally. You out of 7 plus billion people are special to your God IS God. How is this not the height of arrogance?”
I believe ‘my’ God cares about the fools like you EVERY BIT as much as me….read into my comments whatever you will, just as you have the Bible.
I notice you don’t care to address the points I made, only interested in disparaging Biblical writings
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-You misunderstood again ! I did NOT SUGGEST you’re arrogant, I said “you’re an arrogant little piss ant”
You’re buddy posted and a thread just for you…money is power
Thank you for responding.
I am sorry if I failed to address your points. I really did try to take them one at a time. If I missed one please feel free to enlighten me and I will gladly respond.
It is an interesting point you make about the validity of oral history.
I was told the ruins of Troy were located by a team of crazy archaeologists who followed a map derived from analysis of The Iliad and The Odyssey, both oral histories about the battle at Troy.
So, Helen. She had run off to Troy with Paris, then married his brother.
Yet Menalaus took her back with him and they lived happily ever after. Has that ever happened to an adulterous wife and mother? I’m asking for a friend. A novena praying friend.
Sometimes we want to yell at the rock and demand it stop being an unmoveable rock. The rock, thinking rock-ness superior to shifting sands of reasoned discourse, refuses to move, stating “I am a rock.”
Yelling at a rock is a waste of time. So is beating one senseless with a baseball bat or a cricket bat.
I bet there are many of us who can recount stories about the time an anguished cry for spiritual help resulted in a miraculous-seeming event in “realtime and realspace.” Perhaps there were even multiple gasps of witnesses saying “Did you see that?” and telling one another what it was they saw.
A few years ago I had a vision of my beloved friend and father-in-law before a throne-like image I called CreatorGod in my dreamstate. Since they had died within two weeks of one another, I believed I’d actually been gifted by the Comforter at the time.
Now, I think I was exhausted from taking care of two people so very dear to me while they were terminal, watching them grow weaker and fade away before my eyes. I think it was a dream and I wished it to be a vision. Time passing heals but time passed conceals.
I thought at the time it was a real vision. And now I realize it could have been the greatest story I never really told myself.
Huh? I could have imagined it and wanted it to be real.
It has a lot to do with Hebrews 11.
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/a-hoax-of-hate-the-protocols-of-the-learned-elders-of-zion
A quote from Ash’s link:
“After the Russian Revolution in 1917, frustrated supporters of the ousted Czar rescued the document from obscurity in order to discredit the Bolsheviks. ”
I do believe the “Protocols” are a hoax. I just think that it was perpetrated by people other than who the ADL is saying it was perpetrated by….
Read between the lines, people.
Oh but don’t do that with your precious bible. No reading between the lines there. In fact, for most of Christianities history you troglodytes wouldn’t even been allowed to read, let alone read a bible. It was against the law to even possess one.
Did you get joo jammed in the butt, or the wallet; or maybe an ex that is of such a bloodline?
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- You seem like a dam intelligent man, but seem to be blinded by an insatiable hate for…..just the jews? or equal opportunity hatred of anything not white?
No Chaos, in fact most of those I hate are white. I have to hate white men or I will get arrested here in CA.
Nearly all of the articles of the protocols have been implemented, of course, if you had actually read them, you would then know that those who promote the myth that they are fraudulent are in fact, the very same den of vipers that are devouring this nation. First hand knowledge beats Jewish propaganda every time.
Could you please explain who Nehemiah and Ezra are and how they are descendants of Esau?
We have several ready to step up to the pulpit here at TBP Sunday Go To Meeting! but I suggest a callout for GCP is in order. It is way after noon in most parts of this country and in some places, if you preach too long after noon, half the congregation will just get up and walk out.
So, Michael Klopp, if you are after one of the other associate Platform Pastors (and there is no reason for the lay pastor jokes, Stucky), you will need to submit your own comment with a callout in the name block. Sometimes it works… sometimes, it attracts insults and tarry balls of fecal matter hurled by monkeys.
So, Nehemiah and Ezra, eh?
Sometimes,crickets….
My god maggie, what does that even mean. Please take a trip to that doctor you frequent and have your meds adjusted. I worry for your sanity.
DD, “Sometimes,crickets….” because there is no notification of replies like discus. Got better things to do than check back on old post to see if someone replied …. seems kind of vain to do so!
Michael… some people turn on the notification of reply ability. I turned mine off because, like you, have a few things to do to keep the hens laying and the bunnies warm and cozy.
The crickets I referred to was a nice summary with Scripture references provided by either Platypus or GCP or a myriad of other fire-and-brimstoners lurking in the crowd, waiting for the opportunity to sermonize.
Thank you for your reply, anyway.
I had hoped it could lead to civil discourse, which is why I referred to Weston’s Rulebook for Arguments, above. I really am trying to focus my own commentary and reading time (limited, like yours) on places which might inform my interests and not someone else’s agenda.
Thanks again…
DD, I guess I spoke prematurely. I don’t have unlimited time to read comments for hours on end. My first impression a few days ago was I’d found a forum for civil discourse unlike Discus which actually had some people who knew what they were talking about. Seems there is quite a few ‘monkeys’ here after all.
I’m used to getting an email notifcation from discus when I get a reply and care to engage …. or not because they show their foolishness.
I read TBP when on Whatfinger but never commented until a few days ago. I was interested in uncola’s essay because I can’t grasp why so many people have to blame Jews for all their problems. I guess it’s their lack of self esteem because they need to have some one to dump on.
At 72, with 28 direct descendants and a dozen or so step-grandchildren I do a lot of musing and writing about human nature. It is so sad most cannot hold a decent conversation without resorting to name calling.
Yep, Nehemiah and Ezra!
Panzerlied claimed it is a “false premise that the Jews of today are somehow direct descendants of the Israelites of the Bible, which is totally and completely false.”
That statement is false. The Levites in Israel are direct descendants and and from the tribe of Judah as well. In fact, direct ancestors of King David host reunions in Jerusalem.
“Jewish descent from the Royal House of David can be traced through oral tradition, rabbinic sources, historical data and/or extensive research. Most families claim descent from King David through Rashi. Several families claim descent “ben akhar ben”(father to son) in a direct line, most notably the Dayan, Shealtiel and Charlap/Don Yechia, families. If your family has an oral tradition of Davidic descent or you can provide genealogical evidence, we would like to welcome you to join the Davidic Dynasty.”
http://www.davidicdynasty.org/
Sorry, but “oral traditions” and “rabbinic sources” can easily come from the same lying tongues of those who claim they are Biblical descendants of the Israelites. The Jews told on themselves when they stated in John 8:33 We are Abraham’s seed, and have never been under bondage to any one.
Even the most casual Bible adherent would know without a doubt that all of Israel was in captivity at one time or another. The Israelites were from Shem, the obedient son of Noah, which descended to Abraham, Isaac, (Isaac’s sons, or Saxon) and Jacob, who wrestled with God and was called Israel. One should always keep in mind “the lying tongue of the scribes.”
You realize you’re talking about a people who have been measuring feasts to the minute on Hebrew secular and religious calendars and tracking ancestries of the tribes since Moses, don’t you? Most of everything you write here is wrong Panzer. Do you even care?
Everything that I have written is sustainable by you doing some research on your own and not by believing those who persist in impersonating the true Israelites of the Bible. Would you care to debate the veracity of my claims? Game on, my friend. You’ll soon find that I do know of what I speak. Believing lies has been the hallmark of a brainwashed and ignorant populace.
Well that certainly does exactly describes you, the pillar of the brainwashed and ignorant populace.
Flash makes an important point. Judaism is not the religion of the OT. Judaism, also known as rabbinic Judaism, is the religion of the Talmud. As such, it is younger than Christianity. The basis of the Talmud is the Mishnah which was not written down until 200 AD. The Mishnah is the oral law referred to in the NT as the Tradition of the Elders, promulgated by the Pharisees.
The OT religion centred around the temple and the priesthood.
then why is it called the babylonian talmud?
All the Jewish writings from the time of the Babylonian captivity were kept in the temple which the romans looted & burned. Some 100 to 200 years later they recreated the writings from word of mouth. God told the Jews not to get involved with foreign gods, as they were corrupting. But some like having forbidden/occult/secret knowledge, so some of the Babylonian captives were seduced by the Babylonian gods. That’s why followers of the Talmud are followers of foreign gods & why it’s called the Babylonian Talmud. It’s not their God of the OT.
Excellent point.
This article is correct. it’s called the babylonian talmud because the oral traditions started when the jews were in captivity in ancient babylon. judaism was very well in place with the sadducees and pharisees . otherwise paul would have been blinded on the road to damascus before he ever came a jew. this is not hard to understand for anyone who attended sunday school
There are 2 Talmuds. A Jerusalem (the Yerushalmi) Talmud and The Babylonian (the Bavli). The Bavli is not only more complete, meaning it addresses more of the topics raised in the Mishnah, but has always been considered more authoritative.
You wrote “As such, it is younger than Christianity. The basis of the Talmud is the Mishnah which was not written down until 200 AD. ”
I have to disagree about it being younger. It started in Babylonian captivity by the Pharisees predecessors ‘building fences around Torah commands’ so the actual commands would not be broken resulting in another exile/punishment. And they insisted their ruling where now part of Torah. Good intentions but contrary to Deut. 4:2 and 12:32 about “Do not add to these commands’ [Paraphrased]. This is what Yahshua blasted them about in Mark 7:1-13: ‘bringing the Word of God to no effect’.
Their rulings, customs and traditions may not have been written down yet but ‘Talmud-nism’ is what they were practicing. BTW the NT was now yet collected and codified yet either, but they were still called Christians.
To all: I have not been reading the comments on this site because I was not registered until now. Most of you guys are a ‘breath of fresh air’ from the post on this article. I don’t know about other posting and the comment near the beginning about “Adim doesn’t refer to everyone here as Shit Throwing Monkeys for no reason.”. Other sites have so many trolls and immature, infantile name calling it’s hard to have some intelligent debate.
Pro 27:17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
I hope to see you join the discussion again!
Jumped up Jesus in a sidecar!
It’s “tenets” (T-E-N-E-T), not “tenants”!
I’m not typically a word- or grammar-NAZI; but this one is far too common — it drives me nuts.
IOW, Rob is hardly the only offender.
Uncola, can your next article pass on “Da Joos”, and focus on the “Tenants”?
Perhaps the Ten Ants of the Epoch Ellipse.
In a Dr. Seuss sort of cadence.
That’s funny..!
Feel free to use it, preacher man… I make no claim upon them words.
Thank you school marm. I need all the help I can get.
No wonder Eyas was banned from judging the national spelling bee. Try to keep a lid on it, rocket man. (It’s a joke, going ball-istic, get it? Moron.)
Hollywood, indeed.
” ….. maybe you can help me out: How do you define “Jew”?”
As if you don’t know! lol At least you got flash to answer. lol
FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT: You MUST have a SNIPPED DICK. No exceptions. If you still got your foreskin, da joos ain’t your kin. Of course, merely having a snipped dick assures nothing. For example … a snipped Southern Baptist. After that requirement, who the fuck knows?
Here is the answer from a Jew perspective;
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3854897/jewish/Who-Is-a-Jew.htm
Here is a Christian perspective;
https://www.desiringgod.org/messages/who-is-a-true-jew-part-1
You da man, Stuck. Interesting aspects for consideration in both of those links
Interesting and thought-provoking. And as nearly as I can tell, non-contradictory, thus valid; and without floating abstractions, sound.
Well done.
Good article. However, one must give credit where credit is due…
It’s not “smarts” or “IQ” that gives jews an advantage over gentile whites, but is their rabid insistence on cultural and social cohesiveness, insularity and nepotism (but only for themselves) that gives them an “advantage”. This same cultural and social cohesiveness that is prized so highly by jewish interests is denied to gentile whites. Jews, to a man will fight to deny this same cultural and social cohesiveness to gentile whites that they themselves enjoy as it is a major part of the jewish purpose–the destruction of gentile white culture, which IS superior to any jewish cultural or social society. If jews did not possess this power, they would most likely be rag merchants, liquor merchants, or furniture merchants–nothing more. As I have previously stated, jewish success is based on cultural and social cohesiveness and insularity–NOT “smarts” or “IQ”. Once enough jews get into a position of power in the work world or education systems, they will hire and promote their own, even bypassing more qualified gentile white candidates.
Jews have latched on to cultural cohesiveness and nepotism, as it serves their purpose exceedingly well.
At the same time, jews pushed the concept of racial “equality”, (but only for gentile whites), backing it up with “civil-rights” and “equal accommodation” laws which are enforced by governments–but only against whites. These “civil-rights” laws are used as a “battering ram” against gentile whites to diffuse and fragment any semblance of gentile white solidarity and cohesiveness that may arise.
A great reckoning dealing with the jews is coming. As gentile whites become more marginalized, the accusation of being tagged as “racist” or a “holocaust denier” is rapidly losing its “sting”.
Increasingly, jews are more wary of being “called out” and recognized as “jews”. One can call a jew a shyster, shylock, bankster, criminal or ne-er-do-well, and it will roll off his back like water off a duck, BUT call a jew a “jew”, and he will recoil in horror, having been “found out”.
You always have very thought provoking comments, A.
“Increasingly, jews are more wary of being “called out” and recognized”
I would add the word Zionist to that statement. I experienced this in a small way after I wrote my essay. I just hope it stays small.
Look I don’t think most people are saying that all Jews are part of the evil cabal or are evil. However, there does seem to be as disportionate number of them who are members of this group. An interesting tidbit though, is that most of the famous Black Magick Grimories are based on Jewish Ka-blah-blah. The basic ceremony is you blow smoke up yaldabaoth’s (Yaweh’s) ass so that he is flattered and lends you his power to order demons (archons) around to do your bidding.
Thanks D. I was going to point that out eventually.
but the point of this article isn’t the percentage of black magic jews, but calling innocent jews black magic jews, isn’t that right. commenters here don’t seem very bright. they would rather stay dumb then understand this article.
Jack..
And you need a window in your stomach to see where you are going.
If you run the Nobel Prizes, you win the Nobel Prizes…
Interesting point, RHS
Dynamit Nobel and Norwegian Lutherans are no longer in charge?
I was thinking the same thing when I read Unc’s comments about the Novel Peace Prize
Great perspectives, Anarchyst, and exactly why I post essays. I’ll be thinking about what you just wrote there for some time
Uncola,
Yeah, I like a lot of what Anarchyst has to say. So much so in fact, that I’m compiling many of his comments with the goal of posting them as an article.
Anarchyst,
Keep putting them out there, I’ve missed quite a few because time is a precious commodity. I’ve copied this one though.
Look forward that Work In Progress. Get it?
Anyway, I was thinking about what Anarchist wrote here:
Like how my understanding of a college fraternity would work in the business world: “Oh yeah? You’re a Smella Mya Feeta? You’re hired!”
But I wouldn’t know. Not much of a joiner and especially never wanted to pay annual dues to make friends
Haha, good one. Yes indeed, Work-In-Progress.
Great post, Kudos to you UnCola.
I think you are focusing on the group that appropriated the jewish religion as a cover for their plans of a one world order – Ashkenazi – a mass conversions to Judaism in the Khazar kingdom, an empire in the north Caucasus region between Europe and Asia lasting from the 7th century to the 11th century whose leaders adopted Judaism.
The state of Israel is loaded with Ashkenazi, who have replaced the original Semitic jews associated with the 12 tribes.
This post is very similar in nature to one from Brandon Smith, about the nature of Evil, but he does not focus on a specific group, he theorizes that it is the small percentage of narcissistic psychopaths found in every population, that are the source of evil on this planet.
That is simply not correct. Were it so, the Cohenism test to detect Levite DNA would not identify some European Jews as being descended from Levi. (Only a descendant of Levi may be a priest or “Levite”)
I saw a news blurb yesterday that something like a fourth or fifth of all people have Genghis Khan’s DNA. A similar number likely are descended from some guy like Ragnar Lodbrok.
Your statement is simply not supportable by fact.
With all respect due the Genetics Engineers who’ve been frantically trying to not only MAP the genome, but to activate inactive genetic strands of DNA just to find out what they do, well, with all due respect, I mean to say, most of us who have a little background in Genetics (academically not professionally) have a hard time believing 20 percent of the DNA in the region where I live ever met someone related to Genghis.
Bwahahabababa another 700 comment jew post.
Jealous, are you DB?
Wipper’s Wonderings only garner a few pity comments.
Hence no more Wonderings.
MC,
No, but I do have to congratulate you on your article. Truly amazing. I’d wager your article has received the most comments on TBP ever. My most commented on Wip Wondering was only 400, I think. Bravo. Seriously. My Wip Wondering was about The Mark of the Beast. I said the Mark of the Beast is the cellphone.
It’s just that, in my mind, it’s like liberals and conservatives arguing about the wall…no ones going to change their mind.
I wouldn’t call myself an anitsemite but all I need to know is that laws and oaths are being shoved down people’s throats. For me, it’s as simple as that.
Greed is what’s the problem more so than anything else, imo. Fiat is all about greed imo. What is causing more problems than the secret man behind the curtain on the yellow brick road pulling levers that benefit him?
Admittedly. I don’t have the brain power of most here on TBP. That’s why you won’t see long comments from me. Mostly, my comments are simply me flipping the bird at TPTB.
Carry On.
The wall analogy is apples and oranges, DB. This is about trying to make people aware of the many faces of globalism.
I think we might see a switch from the global communism idea to ‘nationalist fascist” idea, at least on a temporary basis because they see which way the wind is currently blowing. Because they can use it to further the end game. Totalitarian control that is neither of the above.
I’m saying no one is going to change their mind about the JQ.
a populist red white and blue swamp cleaner gets my vote. nationalist fascist because the smart play would be to get the ones with all the guns on your side.
DB,
Re: “I don’t have the brain power of most here on TBP. That’s why you won’t see long comments from me.” To me, long winded bloviating comments are not an indicator of intelligence.
I am going to send this one to my friend and tell her it is the reasoned response to your anti-Semitic article. I’ll link to Doug’s blog so she can’t find you here to turn that evil eye upon you.
Maggie, do you really think that Holly doesn’t see these posts on her own? For god’s sake man, TBP has hosted her content several times. Of course she has seen this article.
Another fine read, for sure, but I don’t think it will garner as many. Simply because it may be just ‘beating a tired horse’……..been a lot said on the subject recently
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- think if I type that enuff times somebody might look into a bit deeper?
They might if they were not so intrigued with the upcoming announcement of the birth of the new order.
Ordo
It made me search it up and I have known what it means for at least 10 years haha…
Nice work!
I also looked up your name.
Found this from
Interesting stuff to say the least.
From the beginning of the prophecy we read:
“Now the last age by Cumae’s Sibyl sung Has come and gone, and the majestic roll Of circling centuries begins anew: Justice returns, returns old Saturn’s reign, With a new breed of men sent down from heaven. Only do thou, at the boy’s birth in whom The iron shall cease, the golden race arise, Befriend him, chaste Lucina; ‘tis thine own Apollo reigns. …
“He shall receive the life of gods, and see Heroes with gods commingling, and himself Be seen of them, and with his father’s worth Reign o’er a world…
“Assume thy greatness, for the time draws nigh, Dear child of gods, great progeny of Jove [Jupiter/Zeus]! See how it totters—the world’s orbed might, Earth, and wide ocean, and the vault profound, All, see, enraptured of the coming time!”
Cumaean Sibyl, was a pagan prophetess of Apollo. Michael Angelo painted her on the Sistine Chapel, and if you look closely, you will count 6 fingers on the hand holding the book.
“And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant.
And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam.
And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.
And when he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimea the brother of David slew him.
These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.” 2 Sa. ch 21
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- only scratches the surface
But that’s our trek.
Plato writes… “What is the AS ABOVE, is the SO BELOW of this Secret Brotherhood.”
I’ll quote Matthew 6:9-15 in “the message bible”.
Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what’s best—
as above, so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You’re in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You’re ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes.
That’s freaking beyond creepy to me.
That is very interesting, GCP. I can definitely see why the KIV would be preferred. The “three square meals” line is laughable and the phrasing above it does seem peculiar indeed…
The further examples of the same are legion. This is such a worthy topic all by itself! Examine Gal 2:7 for example, 1 Cor 1:18… I could go on for a LONG time.
Grace and peace, Uncola.
Well written article. However no mention of the Khazarian mafia.
Exactly as I was thinking throughout.
Best comment so far Jack.
Unc might want to weigh in on why he left out the Ahskenazi/Khazarian/Joo(Non-Joos) since he is all in on truth.
You answered your own question. DNA evidence shows they’re Turks and not Jews. Are there non-Jews steering Israel? Perhaps. Are there actual Jews there? Yes.
Maybe we should call (((them))) Khazars instead of Jews?
Some claim the Khazars hijacked the freemasons when they actually are more likely to be descendants of freemason lines dating all the way back to ancient Egypt & Babylon.
Arabs cite the Khazar hypothesis to argue against Jewish claims to Israel’s land areas. Arthur Koestler wrote the “The Thirteenth Tribe” in 1976 to end anti-Semitism. Nothing seems to work. One would think it would be like taking candy from a baby.
What is a “Jew” anyway? This was the point of my article and why I choose to utilize the other, more accurate, designations as listed in the above article instead.
Unc-Ah , but they present themselves as joos and the (((joos))) give them a wink and a nod. They hide behind the untouchables religion to continue the robbing and raping. Yours was a lame response UN, you just won’t address this thorn in our foot.
My last comment, back to work. 🙂
Some of that could be right, Bea. I was thinking about the opening of the movie “The Departed” when Jack Nicholson’s character spoke of how it took some time before the Irish won the White House (i.e. JFK) and said something to the effect of: “No one gives it to ya, ya have to take it“.
And, then, I started wondering if the K-mafia is more powerful than the Sicilians or the Asian syndicates. Any thoughts?
There is good and bad in all races and in all individuals. “Your Father which is in Heaven…sends rain on the just and the unjust” (Jesus in Matt 5:45), just as God sent His Son, Jesus Christ, for everyone. And Jesus Commands us to love one another. The Gospel is Truth but “Jews” choose Lies. … “And they shall look upon me whom they have pierced and they shall mourn for him as one mourns for his only son and shall be in bitterness for his firstborn…And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? And He shall answer, Those which I was wounded in the house of my friends” (Zech 12-14)
Uncola,
You danced a fine line and I’m sure there will be detractors here but I thought your analysis set biases aside and did not play the typical, simple dehumanization tactics associated with the “US” versus “THEM ” mentality us human beings often revert back to. I understand in most wars the enemy is usually clearly defined but I like the reminder that Grace County Pastor provided on a different thread, recently,
….
Romans 12
12 I beseech[a] you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your [b]reasonable service. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Serve God with Spiritual Gifts
3 For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, 5 so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; 7 or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching; 8 he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.
Behave Like a Christian
9 Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good. 10 Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another; 11 not lagging in diligence, fervent in spirit, serving the Lord; 12 rejoicing in hope, patient[c] in tribulation, continuing steadfastly in prayer; 13 distributing to the needs of the saints, given[d] to hospitality.
14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep. 16 Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have[e] regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
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Due to life happening to us, the attrition wears us down or hardens our hearts and we are overcome with evil at times. The trick I am learning, very slowly, is to put your focus back on Him with all your heart and ask for help. Us proud men have a difficult time of acknowledging this in periods of our lives.
Again, Uncola,
There is so much you cover here and I appreciate you tackling this issue with emotion and inflammatory, divisive, rhetoric set aside.
I think it interesting to note that the only time in Jesus’ ministry that he used any kind of force was when he entered the temple and saw what the “Money changers” were doing there.
These “Money changer” families still exist today and have created much of the wealth disparity through their scheming, promotion, and implementation of everything sacrilegious to Jesus’ teachings.
If I were the Devil
Well done PP
Excellent comment… Chip
“The trick I am learning, very slowly, is to put your focus back on Him with all your heart and ask for help.”
You and me both brother…
Have any of you giving this a thumbs up ever asked why there were money changers there in the first place?
MadJack
I’ll bite….
Why were there Money changers there in the “first place?”
Logic would dictate because the money needed to be changed. During Passover, impoverished semites could only afford doves to sacrifice. It was a den of thieves because the prices were greatly inflated.
It was a den of thieves because the outer space of the Temple was given to Gentiles and those who were exchanging currencies for profit. The rich influential Pharisees and Sadduccees allowed this because they received a due portion of the commerce that was donated from less wealthy Israelites.
The rich hypocrites were profiting from the poor who had relatively less to contribute and instead of giving back, they desecrated the Temple with expensive art and heresy.
This, the animals, and non-Jews in the House of God is what made Jesus righteously angry. It’s was interference with the profit motives and influence of the elite Jews. This ideology is what got Him crucified.
Carl has this one right. The actual requirement was that a dove be sacrificed. You had to buy a dove or bring your own dove. If you didn’t manage to find a dove on the way to the temple but needed to offer one up for sacrifice then you had to buy it from the priests and they only took one type of money, which most people didn’t have. So the money changers exchanged the many types of money from around the middle east into what I believe was at the time shekels, which could be given to the priests so they would sell you a dove which you thought would be sacrificed but was most likely just put back into a cage to be sold to the next believer.
After all, why waste a perfectly good dove. Where do you get all of these doves anyway. And for sure you don’t want to kill off all of the doves. That really puts the kibosh on your income stream.
Spectacular essay, Uncola!
Much of what you wrote about was in the back of my mind as I wrote my essay. It’s hard to keep this subject from turning into a book.
I used disclaimers, too. You saw how well that worked for me. Maybe yours will work better.
I’ll be back later to see what kind of shitfest you started. But..
I won’t be around this evening, though. It’s Valentines Day, you know. Don’t forget that, you STM’s who are not single, might be in trouble if you do.
Oh, and one more thing..I didn’t know Hitler was a Lutheran? (I’m grinning)
MC says,
Well, he and Luther were in perfect accord on the Jews, weren’t they ?
Thanks, MC, for both your comments and for starting the discussion in a fair and balanced manner
Luther is a whole nuther essay. Go for it.
RE: Luther + “Go for it”
Will likely get there eventually
Did you know that Ann Barnhardt wrote an essay several years ago titled “Luther Was a Psychopath”?
Don’t get me wrong, I like crazy-eyed Annie. But she should really, additionally, focus her high-powered acumen on Catholicism. She’d be amazed at what she’d find
Agreed. She was really good at explaining the financial mess we are in. So good in fact even an economic grade schooler like me could understand what she was talking about. Now it’s all Trad Catholic all the time
FWIW… Stucky got Annie’s reserved spot by the p0nd for TEOTWAWKI. Nick’s a lapsed Catholic and she would have been forced to shun us.
Fleabaggs might have been bumped to pond status except he’s the sort you like having living down the road behind his own fence. You don’t need him inside of yours.
That’s all she’s done for more than a year. As a non-Catholic, I can’t read her site anymore. I wish she’d spend some time on other things as she used to.
I think Ann’s ‘Uber-Catholic’ inclinations get in the way of seeing anyone that is a protestant as being something less…it is no surprise she would believe that the originator of the reformation, translating the bible into German and providing to all, as being a nut case. I’m not sure what happened with Martin Luther in later life but, he was no psychopath.
I love Ann but Luther was quite right and the Catholic church still ain’t.
The catholic church is the only true christian religion. All other christian religions are derivative.
It was actually later in his life that Martin Luther starting showing anti-Semitic leanings. Not sure if he had them all along but, they were not documented in his earlier writings.
True dat. He was frustrated by their “blindness” and decided to take matters into his own hands. Next thing ‘ya know, Hitler applied those computations near four centuries later. 6 million or less than 1 million? Doesn’t matter now. Or does it
Dunno. 6 million is a recurring, unsubstantiated number. Lots of others got snuffed. All unnumbered.
Hitler didn’t care about Jew’s or the East or West’s “blindness”; he only cared about his Socialist political, economic, military and spiritual powers (like our Democrats).
NAZI = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei = National Socialist German Workers Party
Do you why Socialists hated Jews back then but love them today?
Or why it’s the alt-right who now conflate the word “Jew” to “Luciferian” when they actually are, admittedly, referencing the Khazarian Mafia?
Because ideology is contagious and humans are eminently receptive vessels. That’s why
doug.
Maybe world Jewry allows it with a wink and a nod, knowing that they too are Numbers runners for the K-Mafia.
I thought you were going to say Luther provided the rationale for the state to kill its citizens. Thanks, Marty!
You do realize MC is so enthusiastic because you took the evil eye of Sauron off her as a good Hobbit should.
A few things come to mind reading your essay, Doug.
I am not an Oprah fan, but I know the last page in her magazine is titled “What I Know for Sure.” If it were my magazine, the final page would be about what I don’t know for sure – and that brings me to your thoughts. Trying to assess all of the evidence available to us on this topic, if we are honest, brings us finally to mystery.
Over the decades of my life, it has been a long, painful process to grasp that my view of the world and the way it works has been incessantly manipulated to serve the interests of the Luciferian world power structure and its various components. Thus I have learned to be skeptical of anything that purveyor of reality, the media (including print and online) tells me, and this includes “conservative” media. There’s always an agenda, usually but not always against my best interests. Of course, the educational system plays close second fiddle in terms of propagandizing the young masses.
So when I read that a study of DNA proves the Jews in Israel are really Ashkenazi people, I’m sorry, I don’t necessarily believe it. This is the foundation of many of the anti-Semitic arguments I read, so it is important propaganda. I have done my own research that a DNA study proves the opposite, so who are ya gonna believe?
I guess you believe who you want to believe, or you are forced to the I Don’t Know for Sure column.
I do know that it is wrong for any elected person in this country to hold dual citizenship with any other country. This plot certainly required the cooperation of a lot of stupid Gentiles, right?
Regarding Zionism, how the Protestant church got caught up in a love fest for the modern day secular nation of Israel is a mystery to me. But once again, this Protestant had to learn to not believe everything you read or hear. I can find no directions in the Bible for geopolitical relations with the reformed state of Israel, so I conclude it should be assessed the same as all, of course based on our own geopolitical power interests. It appears there will be ongoing hostility to it, including some nasty wars to destroy it. It also appears this may never work (cue the supernatural).
Enough random thoughts for a pouring-rain early morning.
“I guess you believe who you want to believe”
There are a lot of roots to our problems. That is one of them and it is a big one.
I don’t get why a couple folks disliked that pullout, MC.
We do believe who and what we “want” to believe in many cases. We “choose” to believe in things for which we have no evidence. I think it is called Faith and I used to teach a pack of little kids that it could move a mountain and then we did a Bible story, played a game and colored pictures of Jesus until Mom got out of big church.
And had snacks because He said to feed the children.
What was the question?
Are Jews Jews, or are they non-Jews pretending to be Jews? And, if Jews are Jews, are Jews responsible for everything non-Jews dislike? If Jews are non-Jews pretending to be Jews, are Jews/non-Jews behind everything non-Jews dislike?
You’re not a Jew/non-Jew are yoo?
I highly recommend reading the PDF that is attached to the following URL. It is entitled “THE CULMINATION OF THE LONG WAR AGAINST GOD, BIBLE-BELIEVING JEWS AND CHRISTIANS”. It is a fairly long read but, I think it is well worth your consideration.
https://aminutetomidnite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/The-Long-War-Against-Jews-and-Christians.pdf
The YouTube interview with the authors is here:
Looney Tunes.
And I just stumbled across this very important piece of congressional business that took place yesterday.
https://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/house-votes-to-take-stand-against-anti-semitism
The House overwhelmingly voted Wednesday to take a stand against anti-Semitism in all forms and did it in an unexpected way.
The motion to recommit was adopted, 424-0, with two members voting present. The amendment added through the motion to recommit says “it is in the national security interest of the United States to combat anti-Semitism around the world because,” and then lists a few reasons. One of the reasons is “there has been a significant amount of anti-Semitic and anti-Israel hatred that must be most strongly condemned.”
I don’t know why Congress is more concerned about how Americans feel about Israel than the concerns of the American people that they are elected to represent, but I’m sure someone much smarter than me will be able to explain it. It appears on its surface to be similar to Vichy France or occupied Gaul rather than as an independent Republic, but since our legislators do not share their reasoning, nor attempt to present the case to the American public there’s simply no way to know. You just have to try and figure it out on your own.
I am neither a fan nor an adversary of Israel, it’s none of my buiness because I am not an Israeli. I admire the fact that they seem to be a cohesive, homogeneous nation who share a destiny and fulfill their responsibility to actively promote the interest of their people over foreign populations. I simply cannnot fathom why any country would do the opposite, as ours does. I only wish my own government acted upon the interest of it’s citizens in the same way the Israeli government does for it’s own.
@ HSF,
The linked article says:
It would be interesting to know if they define anti-Semitism more specifically in the actual measure than with just the above language. I’ll try to vet that when I have time, unless someone beats me to it. If so – please post here into this thread.
If anti-Semitism is defined by speech, it’s an attack on the First Amendment and I will go against that just as much than if they had done the same for any other group. If other types of aggression, then other laws/protections apply which would make this measure more of a gesture than anything else.
Ostentatiously, these tyrants pass those types of resolutions as civil rights protections, when they are, actually, just more bricks in the wall of the Orwellian police state.
Me too.
“If anti-Semitism is defined by speech, it’s an attack on the First Amendment”
That poor ole’ constitution has been trampled on so much, even before 911. I’m going with the brick in the wall…..
I thought I remembered an older cartoon about it. The one that popped up wasn’t the one I thought, but was published by EnemyMindControl on Oct. 31, 2011.
The description:
During the 1970’s when this cartoon was aired for the first time to the American people; the American society was a good society that put America first. We taught our children what it is to be an American.
Today that no longer is a priority; unlimited immigration without assimilation and anti-American Communists that refuse to follow the U.S. Constitution are destroying what was once a great Nation. And what do we do? Nothing.
We are no longer a Nation, we have become a Country filled with aliens from every third world country from across the globe. I don’t believe America will survive as the Nation our founding fathers left us; “One Nation under God indivisible with Liberty and Justice for All” , unless we as a “people” WAKE UP!!!
THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
by Rudyard Kipling
It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.
They were not easily moved,
They were icy — willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.
Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not suddendly bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate
Like a modern-day George Wallace, Uncola swears he will not be out-Jewed by MC. Let the games begin indeed.
EC- So far in “The Game”, “Cook Off”…….MC is out in front as UNcola managed to leave one of the MAIN INGREDIENTS out of the recipe.
VERY well said, Unc.
I’ve thought several times of writing an essay similar to this, but I recognize that I could never have presented it with nearly the excellent turns of phrase. I tend to have too much on my plate at any given time, and a perhaps a faulty mindset about futility of purpose, to really put the effort into it.
I now await the many, though I’m sure not nearly all, commenters who will, some unwittingly, prove your point.
As you most astutely observed, I’ve watched with equal measures of chagrin and amusement as those who are most strident about recognizing/pushing back against whatever or whoever they recognize as ‘The Man’ don’t even see the inherent hypocrisy of immediately employing the same mindset and tactics they rail against, against another sub-set of humanity.
As you said – judge by verifiable actions and exhibited character, otherwise we become one with that which is, for whatever motive, trying diligently to grind us into the dirt.
I would be willing to bet we have more coming from you concerning this line of thought.
I’ve been in the import/export business a long time. There are a few countries that make me cringe when dealing with negotiation and logistics. Israel is one of them. Every company I’ve ever dealt with there over the years is manipulative and trying to get ahead at the expense of everyone else in the transaction. I like what MC said–that Israel is God’s problem. That statement is succinct. I won’t deal with Israel unless I must. Israel’s continued insistence to be above criticism speaks volumes about that country. Let God save them from Iran. The U.S. needs to walk out on that bar fight right now.
Contemporary Israel is ultimately God’s problem, but it’s our problem today.
Doug, you elevate the level of discourse with this post. It is pretty well written with a lot of obviously obscure quotes that will take as much time to understand as it took for you to find them and paste them into your writing. A lot of hard work which I will take some time to consider over my tea and cinnamon toast.
But for right now, let me point out something that jumped out to me right away as I have written on it here before.
“However, if these bankers are tyrannical to the extent of undermining nations around the globe via war, open borders, the propagation of both moral decline and authoritarianism, as well as the promotion of Marxism and the subversion of constitutional law in the United States – they must be evil, right?”
I realize that what you are saying here is actually a refutation of this contention, and not a statement of a belief in one group of people having an evil ideology, but if this is the lynch pin of your argument, you will need to propose a more fundamental definition of the term evil. Without a good solid definition of “evil” you encourage the “I will know it when I see it” crowd to start waving their bibles and korans around. Nothing can be accomplished once the troglodytes are inspired to anger.
People who form their world view around what is “in the book – you know” do not have the capacity to be subtle. They are blunt weapons suitable only to bludgeon their opposition into the earth to free the world for “their own kind.”
I only hope that I can stay focused on this long enough to formulate a response equal to your excellent post.
Thank you.
Thanks HR.
You say that I…
Perhaps pure evil is the absolute absence of good? And the rest is by degree?
Like cold is the absence of heat; or dark the absence of light.
Now, I realize you might say both good and evil are relative. Then I wonder if,by embracing that sort of relativity, it makes one impotent in the fight?
So, what if I tie “good” to the U.S. Constitution. Any thoughts?
Let me refer you to this.
Why do atheists have so much trouble defining evil? Is it defining it that is the problem or believing that such a thing exists?
Atheists don’t have a problem defining evil, but I bet you do. If you think that you can offer a better definition, please go ahead. As a christian you should have no problem coming up with a really good definition. I provided mine, let’s see what you have.
I am not MC, but I am one of those troglodyte Believers you regularly rail about, although I confess I can’t recall the last (or first) time I waved the good Book in someone’s face, literally or figuratively. I digress.
The definition of evil, in my view, rests in the essential nature of the human being, capable of great behavior and achievement (created in the image of God), but cursed with pride and selfishness (the fall). For me, evil is simply the elevation of the self and it’s urges, lusts, etc. over any other consideration. Deceit is the primary tool for its success and pain inflicted is of no concern.
The parable of the Prodigal Son is one Bible story that offers the only solution for this problem.
A more profound question, for me, is why evil is allowed to exist. I sense the answer is cosmic in nature, not available in this dimension of time and space.
Gayle. Thank you for your thoughts on evil. Your definition is not a definition. It is a rationalization. If evil is a thing, it should have a foundational definition. If we can’t agree on the foundational definition of evil we will dance around the concept endlessly. If we blame the devil, if we blame human nature, if we put it all in gods hands, we solve nothing.
That is why I wrote the original post. I offer a real definition. My definition is not god dependent. It doesn’t revolve around the bible or the koran, or even the torah. It basically says that an evil action is one where something is taken with being freely given. If you look at your rationalization you will actually see that my definition is at the basis of your definition.
“My definition is not god dependent.”
Why not? Could it be because you DO NOT believe in God?”
And why does Gayle’s definition of evil include God? Could it be because she DOES believe in God?”
In other words, you are allowed to define evil based on your own frame of reference or world-view. But, Gayle is not allowed to do likewise?
How is that fair? How is it that you hope to have a debate that examines ALL sides of the issue … when you decide to censor the other side?
No Sir. My definition is the basis of your definition. I name a cause, you display a result.
Gayle, Stucky. Your response literally starts out with “The definition of evil, in my view, rests in the essential nature of the human being, capable of great behavior and achievement (created in the image of God)
This means, as far as I can tell, that you base your definition of evil on your interpretation of a god. An interpretation that is held by a minority of the worlds people if you consider the entire christian population, and an even tinier minority if you belong to one of the more esoteric sects such as Lutheran or baptist.
My goal was to come up with a definition that can be used by all faiths. It does not rely on the word of your god, or the mohamedan’s god, or odin for that matter. If your definition relies on your understanding of a god, then it can’t be a foundational definition. In other words, your definition can not be used by a muslim. It can not be used by a jew. It can not be used by a Buddhist. If it can’t be used by everybody, then it isn’t a very good definition…is it?
So you see, you think that your definition is the basis for mine but I don’t believe in your god so your definition is of no use to me. Your definition is of no use to a muslim. Your definition is of no use to the vast majority of people who live on the earth today.
My definition?? What???? I didn’t give any definition of evil!!
I only pointed out that you want to PICK and CHOOSE what people are allowed to believe.
You did it again in the reply above.
Bottom Line: “DON’T BRING GOD INTO THE DISCUSSION of evil.” That is your stance. Accept it. Live with it. Stop denying it.
Not true, but then it’s your way or the highway.
I paraphrase.
I am just suggesting that a foundational definition of evil should not be based on any particular religion because there are an awful lot of religions and they are all different. If evil is a think, and we all seem to think that it is, then the only way to confront it is to identify it succinctly. If we base our understanding on our own vision for our god, then we can never resolve the issue of evil with others of different religions.
It’s kinda the one mans terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.
Rob…but..but
Where does the impulse to forcibly take something from another without permission come from? Is it not some sort of spiritual/psychological problem?
Does it not express itself in every human child by about age 2?
Name the source of the impulse anything you want, if systematic Christian theology is offensive to you. (By the way, Muslims certainly believe in evil, having already clearly identified The Great Satan, and Orthodox Jews do too because they celebrate Yom Kippur every year for the atonement of their sins, and both adhere to a belief in an authoritarian god.)
Yes, everyone could agree on your definition as a universal expression of evil, it is very close to mine, in fact, but you don’t – or can’t – name its source. And there’s the rub.
I am not trying to name it’s source. I am trying to define it. Without a foundational definition no one can come to an agreement save for all coming to the same source, as you call it, of your god. As long as you define the word to mean that which opposes your god, you will never get agreement with those who do not share your god. And that is a real problem for you because your god is one of the lesser gods in the pantheon. You and your god are in the minority.
And by the way, the impulse to forcibly take something that is not freely given is universal. All humans practice it. All animals practice it. If what you are trying to say is that god is the source for all of the evil on the earth then I am going to have to pass on your god. I know, you know I have already passed on your god, but your source can be named. It is life. Living is an act of consumption. All living things consume things that would rather not be consumed. No amount of great satan, or yom kippur is going to change that and no belief in an authoritarian god is going to mitigate it. This is primarily because your authoritarian god has done nothing so far to mitigate any of the evil that seems to exist in the world today.
Thank you for a great response.
We could continue but this thread is tired. We’ll meet up on another thread sometime.
Madalyn Murray O’Hair encountered serious evil around the time Monica visited the Oval Office.
Success breeds jealousy. Why who taught the filthy hook-nosed shyster jew to be insular and focused on tribe over non-tribe? Why the folks that crucified, murdered and discriminated against the disgusting sons of Abraham……we did this…the “we” being Egyptian, Arab, German, Spanish, Roman, Babylonian etc……discrimination without complete extermination simply selected for a better, stronger smarter more tribal Jew. 4,000 years of adverse selection has produced the Jew tribe of today…….and yes they on average are smarter, more culturally cohesive than other “tribes” though the Chinese and Indians are no slouches.
But aren’t we non-Hispanic, non-jew whites the rulers of the world…..well sure we are and yes its also true that there is an obvious over-representation of Jews in power in academia, business, law, politics, and media. Deal with it.
I will not work for a Jewish owned company, simply because it is not likely to be a successful relationship….been there and done that and seen it far too many times. Doesn’t mean however that the Jews are bad……they are their own tribe. Would you work for Huawei? Hell no and it’s obvious.
So maybe whites should do a better job of acting on our own tribal affiliation as we transition to a minority group…..lots of hard lessons are going to be learned.
Jews are not THE problem, but they certainly contribute more than their fair share to it – refusal to assimilate into any culture in which they’ve lived, nepotism, favoritism, liberalism, and the risible belief their sheepfucking ancestors were chosen by the creator of the universe to be His special people, over all other people in the history of the world (not to mention the remainder of the universe).
When one actually studies more than a select smattering of ancient history and folklore, one can see the Old Testament is nothing more than a lengthy, somewhat dull, Jewish propaganda tract – and the Talmud as being an instruction manual on how to fuck over everyone that isn’t a Jew.
Doug, Great thought process. I’m struggling with this topic as well. Your conclusions fit my current view as well as anything I’ve read. Although some of what you wrote was over my head (if I took more time to research it would help) but I would summarize as follows… Good people are good people. Evil people are evil people. Both the former and later come from all races. DNA does NOT matter. Thanks for the post… Chip
Please learn the distinctive difference between “Jew,” Hebrew,” “Israelite,” “Judean,” and Khazarian. They are not synonymous terms that can be used descriptively or interchangeably. The term Jew wasn’t even mentioned in the Bible until the book of Kings. Israelite is a term that describes the people of the Bible that are known as Caucasians today, which represent the entire 13 tribes of Israel. The Jews of today impersonating the true Israelites are from Esau/Edom and are racially linked to the Turko-Mongol Khazarian tribes that inhabited the Steppes of the Khazars in southern Russia. There can be Anglo Saxons practicing Judaism as a religion, but they are referred to as Shephardic Jews and are not linked racially to the Khazarian/Ashkenazi impostors who control nearly everything in America.
Perhaps what you say is true, but it is irrelevant. Anyone can become a jew through declaration. One of my best friends became a jew by declaration. Does that mean that he is not a jew because he is not ethnically pure. Of course not.
The only thing that matters is what each person believes and how each person behaves. Judaism is a belief structure, not a race.
You listed Eisenhower and Kennedy, the trail goes much further back…Wilson
“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”
Lincoln…
“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.”
I concur with the main thrust of your article, I will always prefer Names and Actions to generalities. Once a specific individual is named and attributed to a specific action I can then judge, irregardless of whatever group they belong to. A core tenant of English Liberalism providing the foundation for this America and our Constitution.
That said, individuals do join into groups and participate in group actions. I thought you did a decent job of highlighting the intersectionality of some of these “evil” groups. If it was underrepresented, it lack conceptual inclusion of The Satanic families, that is the possibility that there are humans who believe they are direct descendants of Lucifer. You touched on one, the Rothschilds, but left out many, including the Paysuers, allegedly the top.
Good stuff, as always, Otto. What Lincoln foresaw (set in motion?), worried Wilson, of which Eisenhower warned, that killed Kennedy.
I think I spot a trend there. It’s like clockwork. Would you look at the time? It’s getting late.
+1000?
Where is that canine when you need him?
‘ir-regardless’ ? ……..and it’s ‘tenents’…..not renters
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-Benjamin Franklin and the Hellfire Club:
“Benjamin Franklin and the Hellfire Club. About the Hellfire Club The Hellfire Club was the popular name for an exclusive English club that met irregularly from 1746 to around 1763, run by Sir Francis Dashwood. During the time of the club’s operation, they were commonly thought to hold notorious, orgiastic and Satanic meetings at Medmenham Abbey,…”
Doug..
I’m late to the party. I was going to leave for town early but the beautiful sound of rain on a tin roof in the desert paralyzed me.
The way you billed this the past few days I’m expecting the other half of Maggie’s grass fed beef. Be back soon.
I will be making a visit to the butcher soon for special instruction regarding bones.
It is time to make some soup.
Cutting out the middle-man. Who needs Martha Stewart?
Who is John Galt?
Prophecy versus mystery.
Galatians 3:28 KJB… “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”
Galatians 5:1 KJB… “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.”
Keep pressing on… (2 Tim 2:15)
The problem is the ruling class made up of Jews and White liberal progressives have rejected the founding documents of our republic. They don’t believe in the Constitution any more. They are doing their best to destroy what’s left of our nation through Third world immigration . Soon they will have a leftist progressive majority and conservatives ( traditional white Americans ) will never again be able to vote with the hope of changing anything. We will fight with hard violence or whites will be subjugated to third class citizens. Whites have only ourselves to blame . It is hard to believe White Americans could be so damn stupid as to just piss it all away . Without Christ or Christianity this nation will sink into a tribalism type of hell on Earth. You are seeing it right before your eyes on a daily basis. I have lost all hope for my country . Diversity is where nations come to die . After Trump is gone all hell is going to break upon our land. Our enemies smell blood and they are coming for the kill. I would say be prepared but how do we prepare for the break up of our nation ?
Almost forgot . Understandable , another thought provoking article . Keep up the writing even though I have loss all hope for our nation.
Ok, I just finished the entire article. Uncola, I don’t know how anyone could accuse you of being part of the controlled opposition or any other label. You stood at 20,000′ and wrote as good an essay pointing out just about all that is out there from every side of the coin (and globe) and then some. As I ponder all this, as well as my long held Christian worldview, I am more and more convinced that sometimes it is simplicity at its best to continue with my long held belief to accept the bible as it was written — in its entirety, interpreting it as best as I can, with help, and accepting on Faith what is not yet fully understood or has yet to come (the prophetic). By the very definition of ‘Zionism’, I fall into that label of being a Zionist. Israel is primarily secular (as America is leaning) and they certainly do things right, and wrong. God has chastised them many times since Abraham and, He will continue to do so when they shake their fists at him and go about their pagan ways. However, He is not done with them, or us. I believe we are in prophetic times and things are moving faster and faster towards the final days when, that man of perdition will be revealed.
Much of this prophecy was fulfilled long ago. I recommend Sir Isaac Newton’s “Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel, and the Apocalypse of St John” for a comprehensive coverage of the prophecies fulfilled up to his time. It also includes an expansive dictionary of prophetic language in chapter 2.
For me, the question always boils down to not ‘liberty vs. tyranny’, but to Satan vs. God.
Who came first? The ‘jew’, or Satan?
The vast intricacies involved in different theologies is hard to believe….the same God, but look at the differences between the three Abrahamic religions…..let alone all of the pagan deities referred to as myths or legends…
Ever wonder why ? Even with Christianity-same book, same God, same supernatural players, but interpretations as different as night and day. I’ve recently approached the ‘one saved, always saved’ belief with GCP, and if I understood correctly, he says ‘yes’, and not by works….yet “Plato” posted an eloquent response on this thread that included a series of verses from Rom……specifically giving instructions on how to live !? If I rec’d Grace only, then why would those instructions even be given?
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- I am fully persuaded that Lucifer is god over this world, and the secular geopolitical movements ongoing are real. And then knowing, all masons (a generic term for all secret societies)take a blood oath of horrifying consequences if secrets are revealed. The blood-oath bond could surely take precedent over race, nationality, religion, political ideology….just about anything.
Anyway, just to keep things rolling…..pound sand !
OAC,
Those Romans verses are suggestions/understandings on how to live as a Christian, they are not stated as requirements for salvation. Yes Lucifer is the God of this world, and with that influence being so pervasive, we definitely need to understand how we can live our lives.
Amen!
“If I rec’d Grace only, then why would those instructions even be given?”
Romans 6:1-2 KJB… “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?”
Because grace is not a license to sin. Knowing the grace that’s been given to us, how then ought we conduct ourselves toward others? That’s Romans 12.
Read Romans 6-8… and understand where Paul is coming from in chapter 7. This is the difference between our standing (sinless) and our state (sinful).
The difference between an adult and a child is that a child needs to be told what to do (law). An adult ought to have already learned (grace).
Galatians 3:24-25 KJB… “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.”
For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
Jas 1:24
For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
Jas 1:25
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
Jas 1:26
¶
If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain.
Jas 1:27
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world….
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum
Sir ordo, who was James speaking to? (see your other question answered on my site)
James 1:1… “James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.”
He’s speaking to the 12 tribes which Paul scattered abroad from Jerusalem (Acts 8:1, 9:1-2). A far more appropriate exhortation for believers today would be:
Ephesians 2:10… “For we are HIS workmanship, created in Christ Jesus UNTO good works, which God hath before ordained that we SHOULD walk in them.”
We are not saved BY our good works, but by Christ’s GOOD WORK. If you are going to quote James you must quote it all, not pick and choose. Are we not saved by grace through faith in Christ’s shed blood? He also writes:
James 2:21-24… “Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.”
And by the way, James 2:10… “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” Yikes! James was given the supernatural ability to keep the law, did you know that? This is the essence of God’s new covenant with Israel. See Ezekiel 36:24-28, Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Hebrews 8:7-13.
Is that the rule of law you want to be under? It is in direct contradiction to what Paul tells believers today:
Romans 4:1-5… “What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”
Gal 2:16… “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”
The Bible has lots of such contradictions. We need to learn to let them be, not force them together creating confusion. None of them are “untrue”; the rightly divided context must be understood for their meaning to become fully apparent. Who is speaking to whom, when, to what purpose, etc…
I can quote Genesis; should I build an ark? If no, why not? Answer: because God was speaking to Noah, not me. The essence of what I’m saying is that simple. The religious confusion fabricated and fueled over the past centuries makes it very hard to discern; but discern it we must if we are to understand the Bible in its entirety.
The confusion away from the grace of God and back toward law keeping works based religion in this dispensation of grace began in Pauls day. More or less immediately. Read Galatians. satan’s a bitch.
2 Tim 1:15… “This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.”
Allrighty then, preacher man. I am going to share Uncola’s little thesis with my Christian Zionist friend who travels to the Holy Land each year to maintain contact with the remnant.
Since her reaction to Mary’s announcement of the Awful Truth was a bit of a stunner, to me, though many around here assured me Christian Zionists are along the lines of Messianic Jews in being irrational and self-loathing. I’d expected a reasoned reply, detailing disagreements and giving good citations for more information on points of disagreement.
I expected reasoned debate.
She cautioned me to stay away from Mary, who was an anti-Semite for even discussing the topics of which she (Mary) was ignorant. (If you read my advisement on arguments, you will note this is the “Authority” style of argument. It falls flat unless you recognize the authority. For many years, I have recognized this lady’s authority on the topic of Israel. But her unreasonable response to Mary’s well written and “sourced” essay outstretched even LLPOH’s patronizing accusation of outright lies.
So, I want to share Uncola’s message without leading her to Mary. I do indeed believe her capable of summoning spirits. She’s kinda scary.
So, GCP, TBP’s unofficial preacher man and saver of sfm souls, could you give me a Word to share with my Christian Zionist friend who thinks Mary is guilty of Replacement Theology and other wrongthinking about her beloved Jews. Something from Hebrews? There’s something about trudging through that faith journey with the Author and the Finisher, isn’t there? Do you have a word that might touch my friend’s heart and mind?
Please ask your friend to define Replacement Theology. Just to clear things up..ya know.
I will, when I send a link to Uncola’s blog post on HIS blog. Haha… let her send her curse and pay the toll oline!
Don’t get too offended, Mary. This lady came into the conservative Family of Families group of mostly military or military contractor types trying to make sense of the 2009 political climate. She’s a wonderful speaker with a wonderful story. And she’s devoted her life to the idea of saving a remnant of Israel.
To each his/her own, but I had no idea her passionate love for our Lord’s homeland (her words, not mine) meant no other opinions are allowed.
Not one.
No One should get used to people with duct tape.
Am serious about the Word… I will at some point share Margy’s replies to my inquiries, but I don’t think they are helpful at this point. She’s a bit haughty about this.
Haughty gets you in trouble. Ask me how I know.
One day soon. My stepson is getting married to that lovely young woman… I’ll be doing at least one more I-44 road run in March! My son got picked up by a team, so it looks like Overland Park is home for a while.
We’ll have lunch soon
OP was my home for many years. He could do way worse.
Lived 1/2 mile from the present day busiest intersection in OP/JoCo. Good old days actually were good then, but mostly are gone from that area now.
I hope GCP sees this as well… I sent my friend a copy and a link to Doug’s essay a day ago along with my little comment about Faith and open minds. I also asked her to explain what she meant exactly by Replacement Theology.
No response. But, she might just be busy. (I suspect she’s upset with me for even asking. That’s why I actually reviewed my “Rules for Argument” book… I sense the Authority premise.
And, while I do believe she may be called to protect the remnant or prepare for their survival, I also know there is just one ultimate authority.
No one can prove it.
(Wink.)
DD, is your friend saved? Does she know for an absolute fact she is heaven bound when her body dies?
If so, we have lots we can speak about. If not, this is where we need to begin.
Grace Country Pastor,
No one can know if they will be saved. It cannot beearned, I’m told.
Please expalind…
“Does she know for an absolute fact she is heaven bound when her body dies?
If so, we have lots we can speak about. If not, this is where we need to begin.”
No one can know they are saved? How then do you reckon this verse?
1 Corinthians 1:18 KJB… “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.”
(Other satanic “bible” perversions obscure that verse by inserting the word “being” in front of the word “saved”. Can you see how that would destroy faith in what God has already accomplished for us? That is why I am so adamant about using the KJB and no other.)
Paul open his every epistle with greetings “to the saints” in each location. Those would be people saved by Gods Grace in this dispensation of grace. People who have accepted Gods freely offered gift of salvation.
It is a catholic and protestant construct which claims salvation cannot be known for sure. Catholics call it the sin of presumption. Neither understand the distinct message the risen and glorified Lord Christ gave to Paul, apart from the message He spoke on earth in the presence of the twelve. (12 Jewish apostles, 12 tribes of Israel…) Baptist’s seem to understand grace alone through faith alone but they will say Peter and Paul preached the same gospel. Nothing could be farther from truth!
Galatians 2:7 KJB… “But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;”
(Again, “new and improved translations” obscure the two distinct gospel messages found in the above verse, creating one vague unknowable, undefinable “gospel”.)
Hard (but necessary) words here… but if you don’t know you’re saved, you’re not. This is where we need to begin. The simplicity of it seems to complicate it for most. We can’t earn it; we don’t deserve it; yet God provides it anyway.
Galatians 2:20 KJB… “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.”
Ephesians 2:4 KJB… “But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,”
Hard to believe, as crazy as we all are, God loves us. He loves us enough to die for us. All of us. Christ died for our sin.
Please read…
GCPastor,
Thank you for responding.
How can we know for sure we are saved if we cannot earn it? Is it as simple as accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior? Is it that simple?
You’re most welcome.
Ephesians 1:13 KJB… “In whom ye also trusted , after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,”
Since we can’t earn it, it (salvation) must be received as the gift it is. Salvation is trusting that the shed blood of Jesus Christ was a satisfactory payment to God for your (our) sin debt. Christ hung on the cross where we all deserve to be hung. He took your (our) place! The wages of sin is death. Christ died for us.
The most amazing gift ever offered. Take it and salvation is yours. Let that sink in.
2 Corinthians 11:3 KJB… “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.”
It is that simple.
Romans 10:9
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
King James Version (KJV)
Faith in action right there. Simple enough.
I have read every word in the Bible waaaay more than once. I’ve cross studied the original Hebrew and Greek; I’ve been on this for twenty years. I been lookin’ up so long my neck hurts. The Bible is the Mystery of Jesus Christ, from the beginning to the end. When God wrestled with Jacob, I believe it was Emmanuel…
Now, I’m not the smartest, and I’m not saying you are wrong. I’m saying that you understand the milk of the Word, but the real meat is yet for you to understand.
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- hang in there GCP, the Lord will reveal to you what he wants you to understand.
I have His revealed word to study!
GCP
You said,
And yet, I bet that a year from now you will say that you know things that you did not know 12 short months before….things we didn’t know or perhaps, forgotten .
The Lord works in mysterious ways.
You are absolutely right about that Plato. I learn more every time I open that book. It would likely take 10 lifetimes to get to the bottom of it.
Does the Lord work in mysterious ways or has He explained Himself clearly however?
1 Corinthians 2:9-10 KJB… “But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.”
Paul quotes Isaiah 64:4 from the past in verse 9 and most stop there. One would conclude that God does indeed work in mysterious ways. Verse 10 continues however… and we find that God has revealed things to Paul that He revealed to no one else! This is why I am so adamant about studying Paul; he is the apostle Christ sent to us; not the 12. We learn more from him than any. Paul writes:
2 Timothy 2:7 KJB… “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.”
Bold statement, no?
This is something that has needed to be said here to this group for a long time. It is what I wish I could have written on this subject. Brilliant and insightful. Sir, you have knocked it out of the park.
Doug,
Thanks for another well-written and thought-provoking post. I salute your bravery in putting it out there. I’m a Christian, and certainly no expert on the Jew Question, so learned some things from your research. I’ll rely on my own life experience and judgement to determine good versus evil, and agree the bankers fall in the evil camp.
“Obviously, the seeds of conflict between Islam and Judaism date back circa 3,800 years ago to the Biblical patriarch, Abraham, and his sons Ishmael and Isaac. ….. The point is, hatred and the Jews goes back a long ways.”
Yes, the hatred goes way back. But ….. why? Why were Joos hated from the get go? Let’s see ….
HOW TO HATE A JOO IN 10 EASY STEPS
1. A family leaves their original home and travels around 1,000 miles to go live in another place.
2. When they get to that other place … a place where people already live and call their home …. these new people tell those people to go take a hike.
3. Some of the people already living there did take a hike. Most did not.
4. So, the new people started killing the people already there. Sometimes it was pure genocide. wiping out entire villages, killing even the animals and dashing children against the rocks.
5. The new people said they were told to do this — yeah, even blessed — by (wait for it) GOD. Their version of God.
6. These new people eventually became Joos.
7. Pretty soon the Joos acted as if the land they took from the people already living there was actually their land all along. This resulted in killing ever more of the people who already lived there as the Jews expanded in all geographical directions.
8. Then one day the Joos said that God made them more special than any other nation. He loved them, the Joos, more than anyone else. They said God would protect them forever and ever … and all other nations and peoples, especially those already living there but didn’t belong there, well, they all suck ass and will eventually be no more.
9. The Joos lorded this (we’re special, you’re not) over all their neighbors at all times … even to this very day.
10. Not wanting to be contaminated by filthy goyim …. the Joos separated themselves from other cultures. They had their own schools, places of worship, diets, clothing, culture and way of life. The message is clear; “Fuck you. You’re not one of us!”
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Of course, as Uncola said … that not ALL Joos. Maybe it’s just some Joos. Or, maybe it’s hardly any Joos. I have no data.
I do have experiences, anecdotal as that may be. I’ve probably known more Jews, including having close friendships, than most anyone here. Here’s my take.
— A secular Jew could be a great friend … they don’t take all that “we’re God’s chosen and better than you” very seriously at all. They’re pretty much normal … like a Southern Baptist, who goes to church on Sunday, and boinks his cousin on Monday.
— But a serious or observant Joo? Avoid them like the plague!!! Those are the ones fucked in the head with their bullshit superiority complex. There is no hope for them ever being normal.
Dude, are you describing how the west was won? It sure sounds like what happened in ‘Murica.
In my experience with previously having “chosen” in laws, I found that everything was about the almighty scheckel, and of course social standing. They we constantly one upping each other over stock portfolios or the success of their darling offspring. None of them actually believed in God. Their religion was just their business, as I was told that many times. Being from a tribe that was not “chosen” I was the beneath pond scum to them, to the place they were continually trying to replace me with a suitable “chosen” cousin for my wife to marry instead. I guess rich, inbred and deformed kin are preferable to healthy, g0y|m kin…
You are a forever classic, Stucky.
Is that like a forever stamp?
Is that a vote for?
Stamps just went up ~10% in price.
Stucky, I awoke before light and decided to watch a little television. Well, we have an antenna (old school) on the log wall and no cable. Our dish is for internet access only.
So, what was on? George Will was discussion baseball with James Brown on one channel, while the Farm Channel was discussing the best way to calculate seed dispensing rates for corn planting. The other choice was the Wyatt Earp channel, so named by Nick and I because it shows black and white westerns which we’ve never seen and we really LIKE old westerns. We’ve just never seen any of these.
So, here I am skimming through the comment stream to see what gems might have snuck into the conversation. About this point I realized it was Sunday Morning go to meeting time and I am already getting hollered at by the preacher again.
LOL… At least I don’t have to put decent clothes on for this sermon.
You are in my morning prayers. My friend from Maryland? Well, she turned out to be the soul sister I’d hoped. When I was sick, she stepped up and now my son has a great position as a software engineer and will be engineering software for Big Pharma and Big Farmer to combine information. You can see why we are going radio silent out here in flyover farm country. Haha… well, almost silent.
So, meanwhile, her family has an emergency and she asked me for prayers. I actually made a valiant effort at a 9 day novena, but then, after that was over, she sent me a message thanking me for my daily inspirational note and telling me it was helping her to complete her FIFTY FOUR DAY Novena.
We are now on day 31, I think. I told Nick last night that I admire her greatly for her commitment, but it is freaking wearing me the hell out.
So, I added you to the list since I’m praying for her anyway. It can’t hurt and it might help.
“So, I added you to the list since I’m praying for her anyway. It can’t hurt and it might help.”
Correct on both counts. It can’t hurt. It might help.
THANK YOU for mentioning me to the Big Guy!!
“A family leaves their original home and travels around 1,000 miles to go live in another place”.
Change “Joos” to Spanish Speakers and “another place” to LA (or name the shithole of your choice) and we have the modern day translation, give or take a few minor details. The Invaders have #2-10 already memorized.
“They’re all administered by men trying to establish their own versions of heaven on Earth.” Absolutely. And as I see it….”man” will never get there on their own no matter how hard they try. Very indepth and insightful writing, Uncola. Here’s one for you to also ponder –
THE DIRECTION OF DESTRUCTION-BY RANDY CONWAY
We are moving steadily in the direction of destruction,
The majority ignoring any warning, ignoring all instruction.
The bodies of children and the souls of men suffer abduction,
And the world moves forward in the direction of destruction.
Did you see the signs posted along the way?
Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin is what they say.
By the message of truth none seem to be swayed,
And in the direction of destruction we continue to stay.
To stand aside and allow unrestrained murder in the womb,
To deny these tiny flowers even the opportunity to bloom
Has tainted the ground and made the earth a worldwide tomb,
And the direction of destruction will lead us to our doom.
A mother kills her ten-year-old child and states,
“This is not murder, but abortion; I just decided late,”
And the 25 civilizations of history that sacrificed their own
Don’t compare to the direction of destruction we have known.
To embrace the lies as though they were truth is our practice,
And too many who are called are voiceless because they are backless.
It is time to grow a spine and forget all political correctness,
For the direction of destruction is leading to an eternal blackness.
Men of conviction are condemned for having an opposing opinion,
And the powers that want to be send out their evil minions
To either kill or harass any opposition to secure their own dominion,
And the direction of destruction makes a nation become a prison.
The divide between the people is getting wider every day;
The media owns the minds of men controlling them by what they say.
A devastating total world war seems to be racing on its way;
Even Russia says America’s direction of destruction was furthered today.
Our direction has done irreparable damage to the economy,
While GMO’s have utterly destroyed our agronomy.
Will the great “disclosure” change our perception of astronomy?
This direction of destruction is repeated history; we’re not living an anomaly.
Our robot Overlords have long been designed,
Ready to take over when AI has been refined.
And to the Artilect wars our future has been resigned,
And the direction of destruction by technology has been aligned.
Every thought of man, as in the days of Noah, is now profane;
The is no action, no deed, no desire that is abstained.
The primary goal of this generation is material wealth and social fame,
And continuing in this direction of destruction will prove to be our bane.
Education has become a center for liberalism, socialism and indoctrination,
While globally, fools ignore the Islamafication of the nations.
Masculinity is under fierce attack and suffering castration,
And the direction of destruction has reached its term of gestation.
We will not be destroyed by the enemy without, or even an EMP;
We will be destroyed by the enemy within–a deadly CMP.
The quest of world leaders is to have Control, Money and Power,
And the direction of destruction has led us to the final hour.
There is a way that seems right to a man but the end leads to destruction;
But to the plans of destruction, God has placed His own Son as an obstruction.
By repentance we can be made like Him and through Jesus find incorruption;
It requires that we deny the seduction to follow the direction of destruction.
by randy conway
“There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.”
Proverbs 16:25
Feb 6, 2019
https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=2247
“But a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for the Father is seeking such as these to worship Him.…”
Do you make a distinction between Sephardic and Khazarian?
Do you mean Sephardic and Ashkenazi? Khazarian are convert Jews.
Yes
Aren’t Ashkenazi and Khazarian the same? I may be misinformed.
My understanding is that both groups are genetically very closely related; likely two subgroups of the same European stock. Word is on the net they split around 1,000 AD/CE over polygamy, with now minor cultural variations, and of course, location location location.
But don’t quote me on that until I can vet it more which I’ll likely do as soon as I become more interested; which might be never? ?
Your essay focuses much more on the spiritual war aspect. I’ve been looking at Ps83 and I think if you study Ps 82 you might be able to see a large portion of how this whole show we are now witnessing got started.
“God has taken his place in the divine council;
in the midst of the gods he holds judgment:
2 “How long will you judge unjustly
and show partiality to the wicked? Selah
3 Give justice to the weak and the fatherless;
maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute.
4 Rescue the weak and the needy;
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.”
5 They have neither knowledge nor understanding,
they walk about in darkness;
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
6 I said, “You are gods,
sons of the Most High, all of you;
7 nevertheless, like men you shall die,
and fall like any prince.”[a]
8 Arise, O God, judge the earth;
for you shall inherit all the nations!”
“The psalmist calls on God to rise up and judge the whole earth, reclaiming the nations He disinherited and allowed to come under the jurisdiction of other gods at Babel”
Sheesh, you are all looking in all the wrong places. DA JOOs is a distraction.
Mary- At the end of the day, they didn’t hear a word we are saying. Maybe they are ignoring our point on purpose IDK.
It’s not about joos, it’s not about a religion except for the fact that Judaism is a cover for THEM. A protected class of pirates who live large and steal us blind. Might as well move on to the next day of MAGA and tit-for-tat silliness in the fake news.
At this point, put your money into something THEY can’t get their hands on.
With all due respect, Bea, if that was the case, why would you aid and assist THEM with their cover by calling them what they’re not?
Unc- I don’t !! Go back and read my posts over time and see how many times I refer to the “Pirate Class” when I write. The media and the rest of the uninformed call them by what they are not.
Ahhh. Perhaps I’ve been unfair to you by making assumptions and then drawing conclusions based upon what I perceived you were referencing. I actually might go back to revisit past posts now. Moreover, this would also explain your stated disdain for Nazis as well. Thanks for pointing that out. Good to know
Doug- I don’t dislike regulah joos, some are my friends and business contacts. I am anti-Nazi for many reasons that I don’t have time for today.
Also Doug, I am not a Russian/ communist so calling me part of a collective is incorrect on your part. (Referring to MC’s thread). And that includes calling me a cult member.
BL – In using mixed-martial-arts terminology here – assuming the “triangle chokehold” was completed near six-decades ago, to the point they could assassinate a U.S. president and get away with the crime…. and assuming they have only consolidated their power since then – are you of the opinion Trump may be a chess-move by the hidden-hand of the Khazarian Mafia?
I’m asking for a friend
This is the million dollar question. If this is their move(KM), how can I not support it? At least prima fascia, without direct knowledge of the nefarious?
I must.
America First.
Depose the traitors.
Save the children.
Constitution.
The Wall.
Or is Trump with Chabbad the good Jews as Stucky would say, getting ready to curb stomp the KM which has been ascendant, preparing for promenade into perpetual?
Otto- That is the most uninformed comment EVER. Before you continue, learn who is who. Trump is with Chabad alright, they are his best customers, that is as bad as it gets, what the hell are you saying????
Uninformed? I was asking for info… Can you link Chabbad to KM?
Can you assert there is no division in “Jewish Communities”?
Try this…
Who were the “Jews” supporting in the 2016 election?
Yeah, thought so.
Otto- Maybe, you don’t know what you think you know, let’s just say the “Big C” members that I know from the business world are Ukrainian/Russian……….So you want to link Trump to that club? Not hard since his creepy son-in-law is Chabad. The (CLUBS) all work together.
If you don’t understand what level joos were supporting Trump in 2016, you need to drop back and punt.
B-your condescending demeanor belies your toxic egoism.
You don’t know shit about Chabbad or KM do you?
Yeah you have read some shit and you have your assumptions but you don’t know Jack shit.
By acting like you do you just play the fool, good work.
At least your prolific in your posts.
Otto- NO actually I DO know them, pinky swear, not kidding. You are confused, just keeping you from tripping over your dick. Thanks for your support Otto, the fool is you who blow Trump daily. But I likes ya alot!! 🙂
UN-Tell your friend all we have is mafia and Trump properties are one of the launromats. The Kosher Nostra is large and in charge so to speak. Trump is a REAL actor they use to operate with the appearance of legitimacy. Are you sure they assassinated a president? Some of us doubt that.
https://www.newrepublic.com/article/143586/trump-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
You know this UN, why play dumb? What a sting, to steal practically all the money in the world, it’s entertaining until our future vaporizes.
Citing The New Republic now Bea? Really? What’s ironic is that the author of that article has a Jewish surname. Also, Win McCormack owner of TNR hails from a banking family and was one of Hillary Clinton’s biggest benefactors.
Nowhere to run. Nowhere to hide.
I think I originally read that article on The Daily Beast or VT, don’t remember now. I have posted it many times, it is known to be true information along with Trump renting a whole floor in Trump Tower to one of China’s largest banks and also one of Russia’s largest banks. If you have proof to the contrary, post it.
If that article is true, then Mueller must be part of the ruse, right?
First, let me remind YOU that there was no bigger liberal DEM than Trump who supported the Clinton’s and were their bff’s up until he was switched over to REPUG in 2008 . Bring some proof UN, that was lame. Ivanka and creepy 666 didn’t switch(?) from ULTRA-liberal until one month before the 2016 election.
Mueller part of the ruse, without doubt. Can’t have a sham investigation without a longtime sham actor/investigator.
Of course Mueller is a useful idiot who had gotten away with countless sham investigations in the past until this new era we have begun. Where many of the once, made men and women are being thrown under the bus by the big club.
Ahhhh. There it is, right there. It seems, of late, my next pieces have been sewn from the threads of each previous one.
And this one may be no different.
If Mueller was part of the ruse, then the only reason I could think of would for the theatrics of starting a civil war and engaging the 2nd Amendment crowd as the last hurdle to America’s demise.
A trick as foreshadowed in the 1927 film “Metropolis“.
A deception so grand as to make Donald J. Trump one of the most sinister, clever, and evil bastards in world history; not to mention one of the greatest theatrical actors of all time.
All of which raises two questions endlessly flashing in my mind like neon signs in parallel, across from each other, and on opposite sides of the road to hell.
OCCAM”S RAZOR?
or
NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS
I think your friends sucked it up, forgot some butthurt and propelled your count to the stars UN. You can do that piece, think whatever you may, we will be here to slug it out. Otto thinks me a fool, if he only knew……..I rarely kid around. Thats just me.
Good article Doug!!!!!
I do think some advice he receives is by those hidden forces. I was reminded during a visit with an old military friend who stayed much longer and rose to much higher leadership
positions that most. She reminded me that military influences can be very well intended, since they true heart of the soldier is filled with love of country and principles upon which it stands.
She also reminded me of the other kind of military influences, which are driven by the same corruption and greed as other people in powerful positions.
It all depends upon whose advice he values most and what principles they serve.
Double D- True dat…. and looking forward to this next installment .
Behind every “pirate class” or whatever you want to call them there is a larger “intelligent evil”. You did touch on that and your questions about Israel seemingly being “protected” during an attack are good ones. The question is, who or what is doing the protecting?
“The question is, who or what is doing the protecting?”
Excellent.
And on our “legal tender” are printed the words “In God We Trust”. I ask, which one?
Isn’t it ironic that most of the world passes around dollars and never bothers to question what is printed on them?!
As long as the dollars get them what they think they need most people could care less.
Scary thing is with the planned detonation of the U.S. Dollar, all those dollars people lie, cheat, steal, work hard for and even murder will be worthless soon enough.
Plato.
As intended. I know you know that. Just thought I would insert it.
Well written, balanced. If you meet/read anyone who lumps peoples into a group behaving/believing as a group, you’ve met a shallow thinker.
That’s bullshit. A generalization can be true with the understanding that it does not apply to all people of that group.
You have it backward.
Go look up the definition of culture, before you post anything else.
The problem is obviously Jewish fragility.
Doug..
WHERE’S THE BEEF?
You have certainly mastered the low art of Exploratory Disquisitional Obfuscation.
Rob said you elevated the level of discourse. Apparently that means further muddying the water.
After all the hype, what have you proved or disproved other than that you can elevate the level of discourse, which I do not dispute. I would like to join you but don’t want to blow 37 years of being clean and sober on this very date.
To begin, you were clever enough to use the first 1/3 to set yourself apart from the lowbrow name callers by extensively listing your credentials as a neutral innocent. Then you proceeded to call various people names so as to look like an equal opportunity accuser. Snowflakes, Progladykes etc. then you went in for the kill. NAZI’s and JEW HATERS. Since you have already declared me to be both I’m now unqualified to question you. When in fact I know more Jews intimately and casually than Stucky.
Moving on. “Secular Israel”. Nice piece of fiction.
They are not Secular. Why would they wear those foreskin beanies to the wailing wall if they were a secular Israel. Why would they incite so much anger by moving their capitol to Jerusalem if they were secular.
The chart showing the 8,500 bankers at the top of the chart. Who is First Among Equals in that group of bankers?
BTW. I notice my moniker is now an evil vampire Nazi. For years it remained the same. Interesting!
Methinks you protest too much, Flea, and it makes me wonder why. Not really. But, as I said in my article, you are just as entitled to your opinions as I am mine.
And, yes, reasonable people can disagree.
On another note, 37 years today is amazing and inspirational. I mean that. Seriously. I know friends in the program and knew others who never made it. Keep on keepin’ on, man
doug..
I appreciate your willingness to engage in controversy regarding the JQ. Nobody else seemed to want to. I was just trying to point out a few things and force people to look deeper. Maybe you’re 100% right. The process of elimination of culprits can’t happen if it’s not discussed. I like to be provacative because you can’t sell boring.
As for 37 years. Getting straight is easy, like getting married. Staying married is the trick. The Bible mentions not fainting during the long fight. Counting the cost first. Not fainting is the key. Most Alkies and addicts I know think they are the only ones that have to struggle at times so they faint over the why me’s and poor me’s. I keep a picture of the guy on the skateboard in my war in my truck to remind me how easy I have it.
When it all goes down, Flea, I’d be honored share the same foxhole with ya. The only downside might be you getting tired of me pointing out all of the non-Jews for you to shoot. But we’ll keep score, and the loser buys the coffee.
Doug..
Since I’m not anti Semitic shooting non Jews would be a safe thing to do.
I read the post, and was thinking pretty much the same thing. Again, to me, this kind of bullschitt is exactly what helps ‘muddy’ the field…..
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- the meat in the bottom of this bowl of stew is that no one really knows ! In the end, no matter what ‘nametag’ you’ve got on, you’ll either be ‘saved’, or ‘unsaved’
Interesting nothing about Chabad was mentioned all day, mission accomplished.
That was my job, B.
Doug pointed out quite a lot of the spiritual aspect of this war we are in but it seems to be passed over, even considering all the scripture quoted in various comments.
To be completely honest: I do believe Hasidic Jews are some of the strangest creatures on earth. I do believe they are a tyrannical collective of minor consequence (both historically and now) and who are, also, sadly pathetic mooches on America’s welfare system – like in NYC for example.
Above that, I will add this: The Chabad movement is another man-constructed vertical which has enjoyed a lot of growth over the past 7 decades among Jews. Even so, that isn’t saying much given less than 10 million in 80 countries, unless one believes it is the Hasids in control of the banks at the top of the pyramid?
What else?
Great article. You know, I’m no scholar, Biblical or otherwise, I was confirmed in the Episcopal Church long ago in the South. I had lots of Jewish friends, although I don’t suppose I knew much more about the “religion” part of my Jewish friends than the obvious: They had big, happy families, were lots of fun, were lucky because they celebrated Christmas AND the 12 days of Hanukkah, were allowed to eat Matzo at school, and their parents always owned the best stores, clothes, music, whatever. Yet, somehow, I always sort of understood that when it is all said and done, it is all about the Jews. They are God’s people, yes, they missed that Jesus was their Messiah, but God will bring them around eventually on that point, because that is the point, everything God has done and will do is through the Jewish people, who are His children, or maybe a better way to put it is they are His firstborn children, and us Christians the younger siblings. What is clear however, to me anyway, is in a nutshell: Be nice to the Jews, or else God will not be nice to you. I have found that to be an extremely easy rule to live by. Every Jew that I have ever know has been a joy to be around, and welcomed me into their family with open arms. For the record, it is true, every single one of them made straight A’s in school and every year it was a Jewish student that was number 1 (and 2,3,4…) in the Graduating Class having been on the Honor Roll every semester since 1st Grade!
A Jew carrying a baby and a bucket of water goes into a bar. The bartender says, leave the bucket and take the baby out of here. The Jew asks why he should leave the bucket. “I can’t throw the baby out with the bath water.”
Uncola
What made Mary Christine’s essay important to me was the power she demonstrated, in accordance with the American Way. I digress briefly from your essay, is the American Way on the same track as the United States Constitution? In NED, the Legal Window of the CIA Thierry Meyssan wrote, “The US Constitution does not recognize that the people are sovereign, because power is divided between them and a federation of states, in other words, between the leaders of the community.” Meyssan was paraphrasing the Supreme Court’s 2000 Gore v Bush outcome. Is it the American Way to share power with any leader who will oppose liberty?
Your essays are equally important to me.
Regarding the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Bible as I read it proclaims in Zephaniah 3:17, “The Lord your God in your midst, The Mighty One, will save; He will rejoice over you with gladness, He will quiet you with His love, He will rejoice over you with singing.”. Under the subject of God’s attributes, I have not read in the Bible that God is a Zionist, or that God lead Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as such. Verse by Verse Ministry is apolitical and does not teach Zionism. Zionists most likely rebuke VbVM’s teaching about the Millennial Kingdom (and 12 Apostles) in the Revelation Bible study.
When I consider statism, I definitely conclude Zionism is a form of statism. Researches have complied material from Zionist sources (their own speech) relating to current events that highlight totalitarian times to come.
OS says:
There are those who would say God’s very promise to Abraham is Zionism.
Plus everything the Bible says about
Zion?
https://www.openbible.info/topics/zion
On Earth, Jesus sang Psalms! The scriptures in the link you provided, Jesus read them and sang the Psalms! Attributes of the Triune God are clear in these scriptures. These scriptures do not teach me to claim the Triune God is a zionist, nor direct me to worship the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit as such.
Prayers for Zion, the Holy Spirit guides this linked ministry.
https://lightofzion.org/prayer/scripture-guide/
Attributes of the Triune God are apolitical.
Zionists have used the WW II concentration camps to their political advantage. The Triune God did not lead the zionists to bury the facts of what occured in the concentration camps post-war, by demanding the world only focus on the Holocaust and them.
http://www.doomedsoldiers.com/volunteer-to-Auschwitz.html
Torture occured in camps under the authority of Poland’s Office of State Security in Poland and camps under the control of the Red Army. Torture was used on the German People. Not just beatings, Torture. Torture.
Not sure what to do with that, but OK. I have enjoyed some of your comments before, so there’s that too 🙂
Got it. As I understand it, a Zionist is a supporter or promoter of the political organization of Zionism.
That “Got it” in my last reply is a confirmation I hear what you are saying , Uncola. I was not being snarky.
Allow me to establish my Jew hating credentials so that there can be no mistake that I do indeed have an agenda.
I don’t hate Jews or even despise them or anyone else including the new batch of Congressional Progladykes and Commies.
I’m just tired of conservative debate being discredited by the PC movement and their IST’s and ISM’s and ANTI’s and PHOBE’s.
I didn’t realize how well cowed I had been by the anti-Semite slur until I read
“It’s time to drop the Jew Taboo” by Charles Bausman on the UNZ REVIEW on 1/15/2018, it’s also on Russia Insider.
I had always deferred to my Jewish nieces and nephews and used terms like Zionist Jew to describe certain elements of International Jewry. No more.
Although my relatives are pretty secular they all go to Synagogue and are very consious of being Jewish and having a strong kinship with worldwide Jewry. Synagogue is were Jewish culture is centered. You find spouses and careers and jobs there. It is where the general talking points of world affairs concerning Jews are passed along just to name a few. They also defer to Israel on major issues. This makes Jews who go to synagogue complicit. It’s also why they get tarred with the same brush and why they accept that as part of being Jew.
The issue of DNA is not what most people I know worry about. It’s The Jews Period is not a statement of DNA. It’s a nearly universally understood term for world Jewry. I say nearly because of the “hear,see, speak no evil of Jews” crowd pretend not to know what is meant.
You get a good size group together and they start colluding. That’s just humans. It’s unfair to loners but what are you going to do?
Thanks. Is why I like you in spite of it all.
And I like a chick with Double D’s in spite of herself.
Am nobody, who are you? Are you nobody too?
Perhaps there are two of us, don’t tell! They’ll banish us you know.
What you should ask yourself is what is she holding in that severed hand? Is it a white flag? Or is it the middle finger salute?
Well here goes another dive into the end of the thread; I am really missing out on the discussion part of your articles, which by the way, are not to be missed!
The Joooo’s, from what I have been reading, are truly a terrible people, yet other times, are not even a people, but imposters! My response thus far has been and continues to be, yeah and they are probably ten times worse than your saying. But then again, so are most of the power hungry elite by whatever name, race or nationality they go by. There is the Jewish mafia, the Polish mafia, the Haitian mafia, the Italian mafia, the Irish mafia, the small people mafia (watch the small people, you never see them coming!), the LGBQT mafia and many more … take your pick.
But then how could I have been taught in Sunday School that they are God’s people, whom will be saved when our Lord returns?
I have come to understand that in the same way I experienced salvation (not of my works), is the same way God will return for the Jewish remnant; because of a promise God had made to Abraham, and not because they are such an upstanding people.
Where the Sunday school teachers erred was in the idea that if God were coming for them, they must be good. Did Jesus die for me because I was good? No, I don’t think so and in much the same way, no matter how terrible these people are (more than you could possibly imagine), They will not be saved in the end by their works, but because of God preserving for Himself a remnant, just like the Bible says.
Gods ways are not mans ways; deal with it.
Well that was a very disappointing end to an article that was sold to the reader as something super juicy. When do we ever have disclaimers about the content written on TBP? I didn’t know that we were supposed to censor our thoughts here to avoid offending someone.? By apologizing for every opinion that you formulate before posting it, you certainly fit the mould of an alphabet media “journalist” hoping not to get fired, so I can see why some have accused you of playing for the other side.
On a side note, in such dark and gloomy times, I find solace in the fact that after they steal all of the G0Y|M’s money, they will have no choice but steal from each other… Their greed has no limits…
I happen to think both Mary Christine and Doug have handled this very volatile topic with careful wordplay. Sometimes we have to retract in order to progress.
It takes many steps to reach a goal; even backward ones have value. BRB
Hold on to your hat, DD and look at my reply to William. That is where the whole discussion should be but that is just too weird for nearly everyone.
Mushroom says:
Don’t conflate advertising with sales. The former has to do with traffic, the ladder has to do with product.
Hey Admin, could you give them a refund? Oh. Wait.
And, then this from MS as well:
Or, it could be you’re just pissed because I addressed it up front so you couldn’t dishonestly utilize it against me later. Because you know you would have, right?
My oh my. The games people play
The sad thing is They are not going to give any such consideration to you. Their rules are very clear and were spelled out millenia ago.
“As for Christianity, there is a dispute among Halachic authorities, but the vast majority consider it idolatry as well. Islam, on the other hand, is not considered idolatry.”
Read that last bit again, slowly, so the christianzionists can keep up: “Islam, on the other hand, is not considered idolatry.”
No low IQ muslim would love the tormentors of their prophet.
It is our duty to force all mankind to accept the seven Noahide laws, and if not ~ they will be killed.” ~ Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg (Islam is NOT idolitry. Christianity IS idolitry) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooz7f4A1zlg&feature=youtu.be&list=PLyEGpienRGwI7lQ50eOD4BOcD3FvgORfl
“… a gentile who worships false gods is liable, [for the death penalty] provided he worships them in the accepted manner.* A gentile is executed for every type of foreign worship which a Jewish court would consider worthy of capital punishment.” Maimonides, Hilchot Melachim XI, Mishneh Torah
“It may interest ‘Judeo-Christians’ http://judaism.is/judeo-chr… to know that while “elder brother” Maimonides strictly maintained Christians to be idolaters, he ruled that Muslims are not idolators:
‘These Muslims [Ishmaelim] are not in any way idolators. [Idolatry] has already been removed from their mouths and their hearts, and they unify G-d in the appropriate manner without any admixture [of idolatrous beliefs].’” Maimonides, Responsa, 448
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“The Christians are idolaters, and Sunday is their holiday…” Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Avodah Zorah, 9;4
“The Christians are worshipers of Avodah Zorah [idolatry]” Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Ma’akhalot Assurot, 11:7
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Deuteronomy 7:16, 20:16 “And thou shalt consume all the peoples which the Lord thy God shall deliver unto thee; thine eye shall not pity them…thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth.”
KILL THE SICK and CRIPPLED
Numbers c.5 v.2-4 (Being “put out of camp was a Death Sentence0.
KILL HOMOSEXUALS & UNDESIRABLES
Leviticus c.20 v.13 well, really the whole chapter
KILL ALL DISSIDENTS:(Hitler COPIED Moses ordering anyone who questioned him be murdered)
Exodus c.32 v.27
Numbers c.11 v.1-2
Numbers c.16 all
Numbers c.21 v.5-6
Numbers v.26 v.10
KILL anyone who engages in “DIVERSITY” or “INTEGRATION”
Numbers v25 v.4-8
Deuteronomy c.14 v.2
DEHUMANIZE and then EXTERMINATE ALL NON-MEMBERS:
SEXUALLY ENSLAVE any females “who have not KNOWN a man”
a very brief selection, many more in THEIR book.
Numbers c.21 v.03 Canaanites
Numbers c.21 v.24 Amorites
Numbers c.21 v.33-35 Bashan
Numbers c.31 all Midianites
Numbers c.32 v. more Amorites
Deuteronomy c.2 v.34 People of Heshbon
Deuteronomy c.3 v.6 really the whole chapter. threescore cities
Joshua c.12 A list of victims of Israeli GENOCIDE
OCCUPY YOUR VICTIM’S DWELLINGS/LAND
Numbers c.21 v.25
Numbers c.32 v.39
Numbers c.33 v.53
(just to name a FEW)
GENOCIDE CODIFIED IN THEIR RELIGION
Numbers c.33 v.31-34
Deuteronomy c.7 v.2
Deuteronomy c.12 v.28-30
Deuteronomy c.20 v.11-16
TERRORISM CODIFIED IN THEIR RELIGION
Deuteronomy c.2 v.2
Deuteronomy c.7 v.1
Jews SELF-anointed “The CHOSEN People of GOD”
Nazis SELF-anointed “The CHOSEN People of GENETICS”.
TODAY Israel states that it is creating “A PURE Jewish State”
YESTERDAY the Nazis were creating “A PURE German State”
Israel a SOCIALIST state.
Nazis a SOCIALIST state.
And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword . . . (Joshua 6:21)
You think, William, that it was Nephilim bloodline they were trying to destroy? That they were supposed to destroy? I figured I may as well go there. Because that is why they were supposed to destroy them. Just sayin.. but they didn’t destroy all of them and look at where we are now…
The devil wears a suit and tie..just sayin….
Again? I have to listen to “Did she just say that out loud in polite conversation?” (Let’s pretend there is polite conversation here.)
There really is something about Mary. Bless you and yours, Mary Christine. I think you might bring us all a miracle. People might start actually talking about the shit you just blurt right out there.
Well I guess it’s as polite as it gets when you are discussing the kinds of things we are discussing..lol!
That is exactly why !!!!!!
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- The intrusion by angelic creations into the human creation-which God knew would happen before he even created man-is the integral part of being able to enter the ‘authentic’ rabbit hole !
Y’all are firing on all cylinders right here… I’ve mentioned this series of studies to Ordo elsewhere. I’ll just post them here. It’s very in depth and very enlightening.
Yes.
It seems that the Sanhedrin has been re-established, with representatives from 70 nations. As I understood it, they will be trying to establish a world council that will replace the U.N., and the Noahide Law will be the new standard. Got this from listening to Steve and Jana Danoon/Israeli News Live.
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-
The Sanhedrin will be here when Jesus returns, just as they were when he was here the first time. And there is a reason it’s 70 nations.
Thanks Uncola. I am gonna sit this one out though.
Come on Pooh. Doug deserves the comment count. Get in here and sling some with the rest of us monkeys.
Llpoh,
Absolutely. I’ve seen you on many a thread be like…
So have a cold one. Put your feet up
A very appropriate pic for how it was a couple days ago.
@llpoh – Bummer. When I saw this thread had 300+ replies, I specifically went to comments, hit CTRL+F and searched for “LLPOH.” I wondered what you’d have to say on this one. Genuinely.
Whoa. I didn’t know that was possible. Definitely, plan to try it soon. Learn something new every day
The way you write makes 5000 words go down like apple pie. I thought you might have hit it a little bit harder, but the success, I suppose, is that both of these articles have stimulated a very important conversion, IMHO.
I hit play on that song (never heard of Joe South) every time I’ve come to the thread, and when it’s done, I hit play on DD’s.
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- Masonic theocracy is down very deep in the hole, right next to the root-Satan !
Just read all the comments ….. wow, that was tough, so many competing viewpoints.
Why is it no one ever has to debate “what is an Austrian?” Or, what is a Frenchie? Or, what is a Chinaman? Or, pretty much any other country? But, when it comes to a Joo BAM! BAM!! BAM!!!!”
On religion …. why is it no one ever has to debate “what is a Catholic”? Or, a Buddhist? Or, a Stuchenist? Or, pretty much any other religion? But, when it comes to a Joo BAM! BAM!! BAM!!!!”
I’ll tell you.
It’s because a person who says “A Jew is this!” has a certain agenda. And a person who says “A Jew is that!” also has a certain agenda.
It’s been interesting reading and cataloging (in my mind) all the competing agendas.
To paraphrase the current meme,
“Who are we not allowed to criticize?” It ain’t Austrians, French, et al, duh….
Anyone who debates or questions anything related to Jewry now has an agenda. So let’s close this article down and go home.
And wait for the late night knock on the door….
I was being snarky.
Stucky says
I’ve been thinking about this since yesterday, Stuck, and tend to think it’s because of the very reasons as cited in my article above.
HOWEVER, that said – If either you or I were to try one of these topics I bet we would we get our fair share of BAM! BAM!! BAM!!!!:
1.) Why True Blue Austrians Feared and Hated the Nazis
2.) Frenchmen Always Surrender and the Yellow Vesters Will Be No Different
3.) Why the Chinese Should Rule the World
4.) This Article About Catholicism is Absolutely Guaranteed to Make Ann Barnhardt Cry
5.) The Ways in Which Buddhism and Christianity are Similar
6.) Why We need a Stuchenist in the White House (but With the Door to the Oval Office Locked So Things Get Done)
If controversy is like gasoline in the comment sections than the factoids we could insert into those articles right there would be like lit matches. We could (possibly?) even start a conflagration to compete with the forest fires started here by da joos
200. Woo Hoo. Thank you.
200 is nothing, I got 500 yesterday, in mathematical terms – mine’s bigger.
El C..
Those don’t count, they were anti semitic.
Until a real debate begins, it is all Tic Tac Toe and War Games…
Here’s a fact: 100% of jewz killed at Masada did not return to subvert the Roman empire.
More work needs to be done.
Romans did not kill Jews at Masada, I believe.
Romans didn’t work hard enough. It’s funny that you didn’t deny they subverted the Roman empire.
If only I had the power attributed to the Jews. I have always had difficulty with the notion that a few select Jews control the economy and therefore the direction of the peoples of the world. That people who represent less than 15 million in a world populated by over 7.5 billion can control the other 7.5 billion does give me pause to consider just how I could wield such power. Would God give me a mystical control over all?
This entire article has just fancy dance, tickling the dragons tail instead of boring to the Demon Core..
The picture above has a certain religious quality to it.
A Crescent and a Cross holding up the Demon Core.
A couple of things.
Israel cannot be secular if it is defined by religion.
Zionism is every bit as great a threat as Fascism, or Marxism.
The State of Israel is a place where the facts on the ground are a Hegelian Dialectic.
It should not be a crime to point any of those things out.
This would have been better essay if less time was spent tickling and more time confronting the rules of the game in the current narrative.
In the pantheon of mechanisms that the elite use to control the untermensch , Zionism is every bit THE threat to individual freedom as any and all of the other odious “isms”
Just sayin’
Is that 300?