Multiple people killed in shootings at two New Zealand mosques

Via Marketwatch

CHRISTCHURCH, New Zealand — Multiple people were killed in mass shootings at two mosques full of people attending Friday prayers, as New Zealand police warned people to stay indoors as they tried to determine if more than one gunman was involved.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern described it as “one of New Zealand’s darkest days” and said the events in the city of Christchurch represented “an extraordinary and unprecedented act of violence.”

One person was taken into custody but it was unclear if there were other people involved, Police Commissioner Mike Bush said. He said anybody who was thinking of going to a mosque anywhere in New Zealand on Friday should stay put.

Authorities have not said who they have in custody. But a man who claimed responsibility for the shootings left a 74-page anti-immigrant manifesto in which he explained who he was and his reasoning for his actions. He said he considered it a terrorist attack.

Ardern at her news conference alluded to anti-immigrant sentiment as the possible motive, saying that while many people affected by the shootings may be migrants or refugees “they have chosen to make New Zealand their home, and it is their home. They are us. The person who has perpetuated this violence against us is not.”

Authorities have not yet said how many people were killed and wounded. “It’s a very serious and grave situation,” Bush said.

The deadliest shooting occurred at the Masjid Al Noor mosque in central Christchurch at about 1:45 p.m.

Witness Len Peneha said he saw a man dressed in black enter the mosque and then heard dozens of shots, followed by people running from the mosque in terror.

Peneha, who lives next door to the mosque, said the gunman ran out of the mosque, dropped what appeared to be a semi-automatic weapon in his driveway, and fled.

Peneha said he then went into the mosque to try and help.

“I saw dead people everywhere. There were three in the hallway, at the door leading into the mosque, and people inside the mosque,” he said. “It’s unbelievable nutty. I don’t understand how anyone could do this to these people, to anyone. It’s ridiculous.”

He said he helped about five people recover in his home. He said one was slightly injured.

“I’ve lived next door to this mosque for about five years and the people are great, they’re very friendly,” he said. “I just don’t understand it.”

He said the gunman was white and was wearing a helmet with some kind of device on top, giving him a military-type appearance.

Police said there was a second shooting at the Linwood Masjid Mosque.

Mark Nichols told the New Zealand Herald he heard about five gunshots and that a Friday prayer-goer returned fire with a rifle or shotgun.

Nichols said he saw two injured people being carried out on stretchers past his automotive shop and that both people appeared to be alive.

The man who claimed responsibility for the shooting said he was 28-year-old white Australian who came to New Zealand only to plan and train for the attack. He said he was not a member of any organization, but had donated to and interacted with many nationalist groups, though he acted alone and no group ordered the attack.

He said the mosques in Christchurch and Linwood would be the targets, as would a third mosque in the town of Ashburton if he could make it there.

He said he chose New Zealand because of its location, to show that even the most remote parts of the world were not free of “mass immigration.”

Mass shootings in New Zealand are exceedingly rare. The deadliest in modern history occurred in the small town of Aramoana in 1990, when gunman David Gray shot and killed 13 people following a dispute with a neighbor.

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not sure
not sure
March 15, 2019 6:56 am

Sad. A group of Moslem worshipers cut down because of a few radical extremist jihadists, who are still alive and now gleefully planning their revenge on another group of maybe Christian/Jewish worshipers somewhere else in the world.
And so it begins. The ones itching for a fight will say “its about time,” the snowflakes will swoon and the media finally have their anti hero they have waited 18 years for, to show how evil white guys are.
Heighten your situational awareness, especially if you live around the Twin Cities.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  not sure
March 15, 2019 9:05 am

Our Muslims in the Twin Cities are especially stupid – Ilhan Omar aside. There’s a reason the Israelis worry only about the Iranians, much less about Arabs and not at all about Somalis and the like. Violence from Somalis here has been directed exclusively at other Somalis. A few emotional beefs between teenagers. Most of them don’t have enough sense to close their mouths to keep flies out. They amble about like slack-jawed cattle and couldn’t terrorize their way out of a wet paper bag. Your New Jersey Arabs pose a bigger threat. Just sayin.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Iska Waran
March 15, 2019 9:44 am

It only takes one outlier, or Black Swan, as it were, to throw your entire calculation into chaos. If nothing else, this incident proves that beyond doubt.

Not Sure
Not Sure
  Iska Waran
March 15, 2019 11:36 am

It takes all kinds, just a few months ago there were some convictions for recruitment efforts by some Muslims, so I’m sure there are a few more radical types lurking about; what a perfect place to hide among the Somali dindonuthin’s.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  not sure
March 15, 2019 9:21 am

“Heighten your situational awareness, especially if you live around the Twin Cities.”

Yeah. You’re living in an Islamic shithole and only NOW does it occur to you to raise your guard? Well…consider your awareness raised.

Jihad begets Crusade. It is historical FACT. This was always going to happen. And now that it has, you’re going to wring your hands and tremble at the thought of how this plays out in the press?

Time for you to re-evaluate your priorities.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  not sure
March 15, 2019 9:55 am

I’m “not sure”, either. Although….. it ‘sure sounds’ like the Albert Pike letter (1871):

“The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained. physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-Albert Pike Three World Wars ?

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  ordo ab chao
March 15, 2019 11:20 am

Instead of looking to a sick dude long dead, perhaps we should be looking in the direction of the modern day 4th Reich. You know…those Jew hating anti-Semites you see here far too often.

The ties between the 3rd Reich and Islamic extremism is undeniable and continues to this day.

Do you think that these modern day Nazis consistently siding with Islam over peace loving counties is mere coincidence?

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 12:34 pm

“Do you think that these modern day Nazis consistently siding with Islam over peace loving counties is mere coincidence?”

Absolutely not. I see the connection you reference clearly; operation paperclip…..Wernher Von Braun…..more.

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-

I don’t see anything happening without the direction of the esoteric….and the scope of the Prince of the Power of the Air….

Neuday
Neuday
March 15, 2019 7:54 am

A mosque in a place called Christchurch, and there’s violence, you say. Huh. Good to see some zeal in New Zealand.

RiNS
RiNS
  Neuday
March 15, 2019 8:16 am

49 dead and you’re making it a joke…

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  RiNS
March 15, 2019 8:58 am

Not just dead. Dead and gone straight to the flames of Hell. Is it funny? No. Was it necessary? I’d say it was past time these barbarians learned what it’s like to be on the other end of the stick for a change.

All across Asia, Africa and Europe these inbred savages are burning and blowing up Christian Churches…and HAVE BEEN for decades with impunity.

Where was your outrage then?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 9:18 am

Irish – that is fucked up right there. There were women and kids in that group. And if you think Muslims have not been killed en masse in recent years, you are a fucking moron. They kill each other by the thousands. The US and its allies killed, or caused the killing, of hundreds of thousands, perhaps a million, of them in Iraq. The US kills them every fucking day.

I would not allow Muslims to immigrate to western cultures. And I think Islam is not a religion of peace. But I would never rejoice in the killing if women and children. You fucking hypocrite Christian, you really are a piece of shit. I am sure Christ would not be proud of your attitude. And yet you think heaven awaits. If there is any justice, hypocrites like ypu will burn in hell.

And re where was Rob’s outrage – if you were not such an ignorant fucking newbie, you would have seen it on display many times. You should learn something, and shut the fuck up until then.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Administrator
March 15, 2019 9:51 am

I don’t classify little bitches as big dogs.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 9:57 am

Irish Turd – I shit bigger than you. I made my bones when the best part of you was running down the inside of yo mamma’s leg. I have seen off more half wits like you than I can count. You shoot your mouth off, malign long term contributors like Rob, and prance around like you actually know what the fuck you are talking about. You are dumber than a sack of cowshit, are a hypocrite, and it will be my great pleasure to flush your sorry ass, like the turd you are.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Llpoh
March 15, 2019 10:31 am

Fuck off loser. You just got your fuzzy little ass handed to you by a “Newbie”. In one post I’ve reduced you to ad hom attacks and name calling.

We’re though here.

P.S. I can smell your sense of entitlement from here. It bespeaks of a boy desperately seeking the approval of real men. Keep lookin’.

RiNS
RiNS
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 10:48 am

ir

You started started this with a strawman argument..

Don’t turn tail and run now with Godwin’s Law you fucking pussy.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  RiNS
March 15, 2019 11:13 am

It’s over, fuckwit. It was a knockout in the 1st round. I Mike Tyson-ed his scrawny ass.

RiNS
RiNS
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 11:48 am

No you didn’t
not even close..

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Administrator
March 15, 2019 11:58 am

He looks ready for the next round to me…plus HE only had to fight ONE opponent at a time.

I ain’t cryin’. I’m just stating the obvious.

If YOU don’t want me here, just say so…publicly.

RiNS
RiNS
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 12:24 pm

IR

The problem is
that your insults are neither

compelling
incisive
or
funny…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Administrator
March 16, 2019 4:36 am

Suits me fine. There are a great many things I could say at this point, but I think none would serve as well as goodbye.

And you’re right…it IS my choice. It always was. It was when I came here and it is as I leave.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Anonymous
March 16, 2019 4:42 am

Bub-bye

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Administrator
March 16, 2019 4:56 pm

Yer momma, Yankee fuckwad. I took the money I was going to donate to you and upped my internet bandwidth instead.

Lee Harvey Griswald
Lee Harvey Griswald
  Administrator
March 15, 2019 4:04 pm
Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Llpoh
March 15, 2019 3:25 pm

Are you threatening to have another commenter kicked off TBP?

We wuz ViKANGS & shiet
We wuz ViKANGS & shiet
  Donkey Balls
March 15, 2019 7:28 pm

No Donkey

Just gets tired having to listen to this drone. IR is acting like the drunk at high school party on chair in corner of room…..

Its funny at first but soon enuf the joke wears thin

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  We wuz ViKANGS & shiet
March 15, 2019 9:12 pm

Well, I don’t get it. Since when are people not allowed to defend themselves? He voiced an opinion, got slapped and now he’s slapping back.

Maybe I’m not on here enough for all the nuanced disagreements to understand.

RiNS
RiNS
  Donkey Balls
March 16, 2019 4:11 am

True enuf

Still he he acting like a dick on chicken marching about a room with his head cut off. The spectacle is gettin’ tired..

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Llpoh
March 15, 2019 9:48 am

The non combatant Muzzies hate you just as much as the jihadis, and they funnel their money to those jihadis…providing material support to the enemy.

There is no such thing as an innocent person.

So with all due respect, Muzzie lover, fuck off and take your butt hurt to your safe space in Momma’s basement where it belongs.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Llpoh
March 15, 2019 10:11 am

“And if you think Muslims have not been killed en masse in recent years, you are a fucking moron. They kill each other by the thousands.”

Riiight. But where are your examples of CHRISTIANS perpetrating these massacres? You two bit fucking bullshit artist.

……………

“The US and its allies killed, or caused the killing, of hundreds of thousands, perhaps a million, of them in Iraq. The US kills them every fucking day.”

NOT Christian organizations, butt muncher. That’s TWO epic fails in a row.

……………

” And yet you think heaven awaits. If there is any justice, hypocrites like ypu will burn in hell.”

You idiot! You have NO IDEA what God’s idea of “justice” is because YOU DON’T KNOW Him. I bet it really burns your ass to think Heaven will be full of sinners who didn’t have to join you in Hell. So you’re feeling the burn before you even arrive.

…………

“And re where was Rob’s outrage – if you were not such an ignorant fucking newbie, you would have seen it on display many times. ”

I’m sorry I hurt your gay lover’s feewings. You want some ointment for your butt hurt?

……….

” You should learn something, and shut the fuck up until then.”

You fucking closet Nazi! I knew it! How does this make you ANY different from the Demo-Nazis trying to shut down dissent all across the globe? Well, at least now I know who I’m dealing with…a little two bit piss-ant with pretensions to authority.

…………

Now who thinks this mouthy little shit is a real big dog? Not this Mick!

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 12:37 pm

Yawn. The little Irish pussy is flapping gums while I get my beauty rest.

He reeks of hypocrisy. That he would wish women and children dead is an abomination. Christ would puke knowing such as him were prancing around in His name.

We really do need to encourage smarter newbies. This little turd with his hate and cretin level IQ is just stinking up the place.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Llpoh
March 15, 2019 2:57 pm

Wrap yourself in a nice warm Binky and curl up in a corner. You’ll feel better tomorrow.

Stucky
Stucky
  Llpoh
March 15, 2019 12:07 pm

.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Stucky
March 15, 2019 12:24 pm

Before anybody starts lighting candles under my picture, I’m a dick but I do not favor or rejoice in the killing of innocents. It’s almost a universal law that women and children should not be harmed. In one of his discourses, don Quixote (great book, by the way) says that women and children cannot give offense. Kids can’t because they are innocent and don’t know better and women are at a disadvantage physically.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  EL Coyote
March 15, 2019 12:27 pm

Big dogs breaking in the noobs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trDsXlDJIbM

Anonymous
Anonymous
  EL Coyote
March 15, 2019 12:48 pm

Mm hmm. Let’s replay any one of the videos of large, fatass sheboon adults, or young adult children, throwing a profanity laced temper tantrum and property destruction in a fast food joint, when they feel disrespected. Or when they simply act uppity, arrogant, and undisciplined, not caring who hears or sees their offensive, disruptive behavior.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  EL Coyote
March 15, 2019 2:26 pm

You might want to pause for a moment in your “fair minded assessment” on the killing of women and children to consider this:

They were at that Mosque TEACHING their children to hate EVERYONE, including other Muslims who don’t believe exactly as they do.

Extremists do not pop out of the ground fully formed. They are created, and I just explained how. I call it “material support of the enemy”… and we USED to imprison or put to death people like that, regardless of sex.

Times are hard and I’m fast running out of sympathy for the enemies of Christ…regardless of age, sex, ethnicity or creed.

EL Cid
EL Cid
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 2:50 pm

You want to kill but you need a motive.

——————–

And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 4:13 pm

Irish Turd –
1) you have zero idea what was being taught those children. Not all Muslims are radicals. Some are very nice, kind people. Some are not. But your defense of killing children is despicable.
2) material support of the enemy never applie to children, and I have no idea who the “we” is you mention. Whoever it is, I am not part of it. And enemy is defined via an act of Congress. And NZ residents sure ain’t it.
3) you are an enemy of Christ. Not a single word you post shows you as anything but a hypocrite. Christ was indeed a man of peace. Is there any universe where He would run out of sympathy for children? Where he would condone the killing of them?

You are a low-life piece of shit.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Llpoh
March 15, 2019 5:31 pm

You just can’t get enough of having your ass kicked can you?

Time for another lesson I guess.

1) you have zero idea what was being taught those children. Not all Muslims are radicals. Some are very nice, kind people. Some are not. But your defense of killing children is despicable.

YOU have no idea what I know or do not know. Pretending you do makes you a fool. Ignoring the Christian children killed by Muslims is equally despicable…and makes you a hypocrite.

Pot, meet kettle. How does it feel to know you’re no better than what you think of me?

2) material support of the enemy never applie to children, and I have no idea who the “we” is you mention. Whoever it is, I am not part of it. And enemy is defined via an act of Congress. And NZ residents sure ain’t it.

Tell it to our Vietnam veterans who were attacked with grenades by 10 year olds in Southeast Asia.

Tell it to the Allied bomber pilots who bombed Nazi churches because they used them for ammo dumps without telling their own people.

Tell it to the Israelis who see Muslim scum use their own children as human shields on the battlefield on a regular basis…and then explain to me why I should care more for their children than they do. You are as stupid as you are evil.

And finally…
3) you are an enemy of Christ. Not a single word you post shows you as anything but a hypocrite. Christ was indeed a man of peace. Is there any universe where He would run out of sympathy for children? Where he would condone the killing of them?

You are a low-life piece of shit.

While I don’t debate Scripture with reprobates such as yourself, I find it meet to point out that YOU threw the first stone here. I didn’t seek you out. YOU came to me looking for trouble…and THAT makes you the real piece of shit here.

Have a pleasant evening!

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  EL Coyote
March 15, 2019 3:31 pm

Women and children have ALWAYS suffered as much, if not more than men during war or bad times of all kind. Ain’t happy about it…but true.

The Ides of March
The Ides of March
  Donkey Balls
March 16, 2019 1:01 am

Animosities aside, Irish did ask a fair question:

“Was it necessary”?

I hold that people will answer the question depending on how close to “war” they are with their thinking about this basket of high octane issues.

Each of us transcends with our thinking, over time, to a certain extent.

In the light of 3,000+ deaths on 9/11, “was it necessary”?

In light of frequent outrageous brutality inflicted by invaders to those in their “host” country, “was it necessary”?

If the world explodes with hundreds of daily revenge killings, “was it necessary”?

Like it or not, we-as a society-are fast becoming desensitized to atrocious happenings. How many of us learned of 23 tornado deaths and simply went on about our business, maybe after saying a prayer? How many of us pay particular attention to the deaths of 2, 5, 10, 20, 40 people in some kind of “event”, whether it be crime, act of God, nursing home fire, you name it? The number comes in and it goes out. Sure, if it impacts us directly we mourn. Otherwise it is business as usual in a short while.

I think the correct answer for each of us is how we deal with all the side issues, how they influence us in coming to terms with “was it necessary”?

This may well be one of those questions where there is no single, universal “right” answer.

Lloph says: “I would not allow Muslims to immigrate to western cultures”.
No argument from me on that one; that they come here has shown itself to be a hopeless problem. I am not going to go altruistic and suggest “let’s fix it”; no, let’s can it-we don’t need them, their diseases, their culture, their hate. Let’s solve our own problems first. Let’s not lower ourselves just so we can be good citizens; the pie is only so big, and I have no interest in taking a smaller piece just so invaders can take advantage of our decency. The invaders have no value to us, they have no intention of obeying our laws, they have no business being here.

What is most worrying to me is that the next atrocity will, of necessity, have to be more brutal, more grandiose. That’s the way the game is played, every time.

Keep a cool head, stay on topic.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  The Ides of March
March 16, 2019 9:55 am

Ides,

Pretty darn good comment.

RiNS
RiNS
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 9:25 am

@IR

I have all sorts of outrage for injustice.

Neuday
Neuday
  RiNS
March 15, 2019 10:20 am

I do enjoy a good boomer neocon poast.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  RiNS
March 15, 2019 10:21 am

Well bless your little heart!

RiNS
RiNS
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 10:43 am

Thanks!

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  RiNS
March 15, 2019 9:06 am

What joke?

StackingStock
StackingStock
  RiNS
March 15, 2019 9:57 am

From the 5 minute video I saw with hundreds of rounds fired and people lying around, only thing missing was blood, that’s right people another mass shooting without fucking blood…..

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  StackingStock
March 15, 2019 10:10 am

You weren’t paying attention. I will say that he appeared- to me at least- to have some close quarters combat training. Of course these days maybe he picked it up from video games, but he was remarkably cool for going through an event like that- maybe medicated? Experienced?

That was most certainly real. How the fallout will be manipulated will be worth watching.

StackingStock
StackingStock
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 10:54 am

I stand corrected on the 18 minute video I watched had a little blood on one or two people , only other odd thing missing at 18 minutes were zero cops. That’s weird.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  StackingStock
March 15, 2019 12:28 pm

I timed it at 7 minutes between his first shots at the door and his last shot at the woman in the street- he then drove off. 7 minutes seems like a lot of time, but even response time for bank robberies where a silent alarm is triggered is only a minute short of that. Not that weird.

StackingStock
StackingStock
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 1:17 pm

Hold on 7 minutes while I call Dr Lube and Dr Colon from the Gay ass Pulse night club shooting/ hoax.

Why no entry or exit wounds? Even wheelchair boy in the boston bombing hoax had a severed limb. We should have seen so much blood, but we didn’t, I find that suspect.

I would say carry on, but you’re already doing that.

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 10:56 am

Unarmed people are hardly a challenge or threat to determined sociopaths.
Minus weapons in an environment that isn’t conducive to a heightened awareness for self-defense they are little more than victims. Heavily armed attackers with half a plan KNOW this and it is why they seem “remarkably cool” – no one is going to be shooting back, otherwise it would be different story.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 11:11 am

Ever read anything about MK-ultra?

“Heading MKULTRA was a CIA chemist named Sidney Gottlieb. In congressional testimony, Gottlieb, who died in 1999, acknowledged that the agency had administered LSD to as many as 40 unwitting subjects, including prison inmates and patrons of brothels set up and run by the agency [CIA]. At least one participant died when he jumped out of a 10th-floor window in a hotel; others claimed to have suffered serious psychological damage.”
— Washington Post article on key figure in Project MK-ULTRA

https://www.wanttoknow.info/050626mkultra

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-just offering some ‘reading’ time. If you’ve not been to that site, is seems to be just a big info storage spot, or maybe it’s just to keep the conspiracy theories breathin’.

Ben Lurken
Ben Lurken
  ordo ab chao
March 15, 2019 11:21 am

If not my first thought, it definitely occurred to me. He was in Pakistan in October raving about the place and people. Based on his education and how he described his life does he have the smarts to think through, and write such a manifesto.

RiNS
RiNS
  Ben Lurken
March 15, 2019 11:50 am

Who goes to Pakistan to see the sites.
That needs further investigating..

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  RiNS
March 15, 2019 12:01 pm

Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children…for starters.

Llpoh
Llpoh
March 15, 2019 8:18 am

Diversity will not end well. I do not want it, and I sure as hell do not want it forced on me. Masses of people do not want it. Some, perhaps even many, people will be violently opposed to the dilution and/or destruction of their base culture, and will resist violently. To expect, even demand, otherwise is delusional.

idahobob
idahobob
March 15, 2019 8:43 am

What surprises me is that this has not happened before or more often.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  idahobob
March 15, 2019 9:01 am

Give it time. Some towel head will issue a fatwa and then it’ll be on like Donkey Kong. And THAT guy should be the next one shot IMO.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 9:13 am

Islam is a cult of rape, sodomy, mass murder and conquest. The world would be better off without them. How many Christian lives were saved by the acts of this one man? 100’s? 1,000’s? More?

Let this be an example of what one man with a purpose and a rifle can accomplish. Western civilization has had enough of jihad. Welcome to the Crusades 2.0.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
March 15, 2019 9:19 am

Sounds like New Zealand law won’t allow parole for this guy for at least ten years. Anders Breivik won’t get out of Norwegian prison for another 14.5 years – unless he’s paroled.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Iska Waran
March 15, 2019 10:20 am

So he could be out planning round two in a decade? Awesome.

Grog
Grog
  Iska Waran
March 15, 2019 10:59 am

Anders Behring Breivik

I guess they don’t know the middle name of Brenton Tarrant yet.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 9:43 am

The shooting took place on March 14. In Christ Church,

14.

Icthys.

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John Podesta is in New Zealand giving election advice to the pro-immigration candidates.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/03/2020-new-zealand-election-a-juicy-target-for-major-hack-john-podesta.html

“…a juicy target…”

RiNS
RiNS
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 10:15 am

His hands are deformed..

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  RiNS
March 15, 2019 10:29 am

You’ve begun your journey into the mysteries of physiognomy.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 11:29 am

Do you personally prescribe to physiognomy? Because I’m on the fence presently. My personal experience is inconclusive due to lack of physical evidence. Is it merely the physical appearance that causes discomfort from proximity, or is it a discernment of spirit? I’m currently leaning towards the latter, but it can’t be proven to a certainty by science.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 11:59 am

After bloodlines it is the most reliable and frequently used assessment for livestock.

Physiognomy is physical evidence- the way any organism looks at any given time is an absolute indicator of it’s health and genetic predisposition. We’ve absolutely convinced ourselves that it is either immoral or impolite not to notice when a human being is not fit as opposed to whether that is true or not.

I always use this comparison because most people have no experience with most livestock, but they know dogs. When you suddenly come across a dog unexpectedly, how long does it take you to determine if it is a good dog or a dangerous one? For most human beings that decision making process is almost instant and for good reason. We have that ability with humans, in fact we’re better at it than with any other species because we understand all the nuances of human behavior and form, but we deliberately suppress our visceral reaction. Societal prompts like telling you that noticing a morbidly obese person is ‘fat shaming’ are big drivers in keeping us from reacting naturally when we encounter a sick or disturbed individual when our first reaction should be caution or avoidance.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 12:21 pm

So you are of the opinion that spiritual discernment plays no part in such determinations between HUMAN BEINGS? I find that premise hard, if not impossible to accept.

I’ve visited the nursing home too many times recently to believe a person’s physiologic infirmities are an indicator of the condition of their soul.

The very idea seems akin to racism / bigotry. Human beings are NOT animals. Judging them as such dehumanizes us all.

RiNS
RiNS
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 1:06 pm

Sez the guy who upvotes the murder of innocents with his Lizard Brain..

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
  RiNS
March 15, 2019 2:07 pm

There are no innocent Mohammedans.

RiNS
RiNS
  Overthecliff
March 15, 2019 2:12 pm

wow

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Overthecliff
March 15, 2019 2:30 pm

Now here’s a person who divides correctly!

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  RiNS
March 15, 2019 3:06 pm

There ARE NO innocents. End of story. Those children’s fate was sealed by the very mothers who dragged them to that hate factory in the first place. They would have died violently at some point anyway…in the commission of a hate crime against Jews, Christians or other Muslims.

Even a repressed linear mind such as yours should be able to see the truth of this…but your retardation prevents it. You have my pity.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 3:00 pm

Eyes are the windows to the soul. But there’s a lot more to us than that.

I mean no disrespect, but when you write “Human beings are NOT animals” is that something you actually believe or are you trying to be rhetorical?

Personally I don’t much care if what I believe is perceived to be racist or bigoted, that’s not my problem. Unless the meanings of the words have changed to mean “one who notices human traits in the species”. I would call myself more of an observer of the natural world. I look at things the way that they are and try to keep my feelings out of it. Then I total up all the observations and come to a determination based on the evidence. I always understood that to be the basis for scientific methodology (observation first, hypothesis next, experiment to prove/disprove at the end).

Physiognomy has proven itself to be a very good indicator or whether a specimen is healthy or not- on every level, spiritual included. As a culture the vast majority have chosen to deliberately IGNORE physiognomy. That’s a deliberate choice to overlook something that is readily observable and that’s most certainly NOT scientific.

Of course if you can prove it to be false, by all means make your case, I am always open to having my mind changed if I’m mistaken.

RiNS
RiNS
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 3:22 pm

Physiognomy is interesting because it has been so overlooked.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 4:21 pm

“I mean no disrespect, but when you write “Human beings are NOT animals” is that something you actually believe or are you trying to be rhetorical? ”

I take no offense, and I hope I haven’t given any. And yes, I mean that quite literally. I subscribe to the Genesis account over Darwin’s fantasies.
……………..

“Of course if you can prove it to be false, by all means make your case, I am always open to having my mind changed if I’m mistaken.”

I thought I covered that already, but let me restate my answer by asking a question. Can you scientifically prove to a certainty that God exists? Not at this point, but the research is pointing that way.

My argument is predicated on what the Holy Spirit has revealed to me through Scripture. It’s entirely up to you to decide whether or not that is sufficient. For me, it is.

We wuz ViKANGS & shiet
We wuz ViKANGS & shiet
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 4:46 pm

The God of the Gaps argument is entirely appropiate for a simian with a yawning one betwixt his ears….

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 4:05 pm

Define “human”, my lord. I do not believe all so-called “humans” are of the same species. Wolves are not dogs.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Southern Sage
March 15, 2019 5:37 pm

You’re free to believe whatever pleases you. That is the beauty of America. If you can prove it, I’m open to persuasion.

mygirl
mygirl
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 8:27 pm

Human beings are most certainly animals. They shit, eat, reproduce, fight over territory, run in fear, predate and die…just like all the other creatures out there. Treating animals as lesser creatures to justify killing them is the issue here. Do animals have souls? Who knows. I do know that there are many more dogs out there who manifest unconditional love far better than most ‘Godly’ people .

mygirl
mygirl
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 8:19 pm

Most astute assessment. I’m pretty good at judging people, I trust my gut. We’re told not to judge which is stupid. I keep my thoughts to myself but exercise caution until such time as I have a better understanding of the person and/or situation.

mygirl
mygirl
  RiNS
March 15, 2019 8:16 pm

Dupertyns syndrome

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  mygirl
March 16, 2019 10:28 am

Did you mean Dupuytren’s Contracture? That runs in my family, Viking Grip.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 10:30 am

A capital of the cabal. And video streamed on 8 chan so….now the Q boards need to be shut down?
White terrorists killing “immigrants “, all on video, helluva commerical.
Perfect medicine for the current geopolitical ills of the cabal.
Very neat.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  ottomatik
March 15, 2019 10:37 am

And a 74 page manifesto, corroborating all neccessary mainstream talking points.
For weeks.

Jim Carrey
Jim Carrey
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 2:32 pm

Pisces: Feb. 19 – March 20

The sign of Pisces covers 330° to 360° of celestial longitude and is represented by The Fish.

Full rotation of a circle is 36o degrees. 3.14 = pi

Feb 19 to March 14 is 23 days.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  hardscrabble farmer
March 16, 2019 6:06 am

HSF- I’m replying to you here, because you acknowledged the Pike writings. I could reply on the “manifesto thread”, but I’m just getting worn out with it all. It seems all who read you, hold you in high regard. As do I, but no amount of persuasion from any direction will dull my sense of a sinister plot……a “conspiratorial plan”….so, my question- Do you see it? The purported 1871 letter from Pike on WW3….(on the manifesto thread, with 44 comments, only one had made reference to the “see I a”, and the bulk of the rest I see as falling victim to the machinations of the ‘illuminated one’s’ agenda.

A juicy target for a major hack…..the manifesto published used the exact term twice, (if I recall); the occult symbolism…FILMING of the attack…….the context of said ‘manifesto’ touches on every single aspect of the discourse to be found on the web-and serves a political agenda of silencing the ‘free’ exchange of ideas/theories/opinions etc on the internet…authored, more likely, by an algorithm/A.I.

.a little 5 min. video that discusses the satanic globalist ritual months of sacrifice (already restricted by utube for ‘offensive material’):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpenvEMqCq0&bpctr=1552727843

When I stumbled in here, not sure when or where, it was most likely from the quayle site, and probably at least a year ago, I thought two things:

1- the mind pool here was deep and 2) how long before I’m banned

I am just trying to figure out WTH is going on, as are those who are better thinkers than I am…..but see this latest “Christchurch” mosque massacre SCREAMING social engineering ! REAL blood letting, yet once again, to advance an agenda.

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- don’t let feelings cloud your perspective of what’s really behind this.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  ordo ab chao
March 16, 2019 10:22 am

You are asking a reasonable question. Is there a ‘sinister plot’ taking place in the realm of human societies. Of course there is, there have always been these kinds of plots and their existence requires, by necessity, that they be occult in nature. Otherwise they’d be opposed. People can stand up to other people, but they cannot take on shadowy structures without names or faces. Big advantage to keeping things on the down low.

I’ve been dwelling on these things for decades now, I’ve certainly read about as much as anyone else and I have, either through pure luck or unseen design, come into peripheral contact with some of these figures and organizations. What I perceive now as opposed to when I first became aware of them is that these kinds of things are natural expressions of adaptation. This is less driven by men consciously than they are directions of something much deeper, perhaps on the cellular or genetic level, let’s call it a drive that uses them (the hidden pilots) to steer mankind on the collective plane. Do I have proof? No, not anymore than I do when I breed a certain bull with a cow expecting an anticipated outcome. It is the product of these intuitive observations that proves the theory when it occurs with regularity.

Human beings- in particular Western man in the late stages of civilizational decline- guys like us, are severely restricted by our world view. We’ve excluded entire spheres of former belief systems not because they were false or incorrect but because they were at odds with the system that replaced them. Science as we know it today is every bit as exclusionary and didactic as the Catholic Church was prior to the Enlightenment. Science is perhaps the most common of all human experiences- observation, followed by instinctual understanding, proved by experiment (repeating the initial observation repeatedly to prove the theory) and the corresponding knowledge that accrues from this practice. Yet we accept readily that only a special caste of acolytes are able to ‘do’ science. They didn’t alter anything we had ever done before- religion was, at it’s very core, an attempt to understand the physical world and explain the phenomenon and physics of life. They traded in their black cassocks for white lab coats, their divinity studies for PhD programs, but their dogma was equally rigid, resistant to challenge, dependent on submission to authority (97% of scientists agree!) and completely reliant on belief rather than physical proof (evolution, gravity, quantum mechanics, etc.).

So yeah, of course there are deep conspiracies that run multiple generations, funded by and run by a small cabal (rather numerous cabals) of initiates. Some of them are bloodline dynasties, others are corporate style structures of criminal elites, still others are completely clandestine, buried deep within long running organizations like States and established religions. And while I am certain, understanding how people think and behave, that the people running these things believe that they control them, they are in fact being used the same way a cat is taken over by toxoplasma and used for ends they cannot possibly understand.

For me, this knowledge has allowed me to let go of my anger at systems and individuals (although my nature often betrays my intent) and instead has led me to accept whatever outcomes these conspiracies may produce because I firmly believe that The Drivers have a plan. And by that I do not mean the individuals who belong to these groups, but whatever stirs them unconsciously to fulfil their destiny. God, The Creator, The Great Programmer, whatever you want to call it. Nature has drives that work out on the cellular level, right on up to the level of all life itself and it is working every angle every moment throughout all of time since life began. Some strategies work, and those that fail become extinct. The fact that we’re here at all suggests to me that some of them work quite well. Trying at our level of existence as individuals with a rather short life span to unravel the purpose behind it all? That’s a job for someone way smarter than I will ever be.

But it sure is great to be part of the search for answers.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  hardscrabble farmer
March 16, 2019 4:41 pm

HSF- much respect for the response ! I did my best to follow, your words are uphill from where I am. ‘Toxoplasma’ and ‘didactic’….for a couple….once defined, I move on.

“So yeah, of course there are deep conspiracies that run multiple generations,…..”

As a product of the man that raised me, I’ve long believed the fall of man in the garden is where the roots lie, and that influence on mankind will ever be present-until…..

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-for me, The Drivers have designations: kosmokrators, archons, demon inspired ‘agentuers’…directed by the ‘nachash’

God, The Creator, The Great Programmer-the way in which I was trained as a child, it was simply the I Am that I Am, Jesus Christ, The Holy Spirit…..

“I’ve been dwelling on these things for decades now …”

Me too, from the foundational perimeter of a KJV, and the spoken instruction/answers from a simple man……”there’s more to this ole world than what meets the eye, son”……”nothing you can do about, God’s already covered it with his Son”…..

“For me, this knowledge has allowed me to let go of my anger at systems and individuals (although my nature often betrays my intent)”…

Individuals….not a problem for me….it’s a part of The Lord’s Prayer….

The ‘system’ is the nachash, and it’s dark agents leave trails of flesh and blood, chaos and destruction !

I just see a ‘cyclic’ end of an age soon approaching. We may not be on the same street, but we’re in the same neighborhood !

(Look forward to what you may write on such a manifesto as reported)

ottomatik
ottomatik
  hardscrabble farmer
March 16, 2019 8:36 pm

HSF- Nice rendition of the Source. I appreciate you still allow for a spark of individual culpability in the flow, with your talk of our responsibility in the faggots we have added to the inferno.
Some have stacked more than others, admittedly in quantum fashion, both as directed and by free choice, simultaneously.
Still one side of that quantum is free choice and the resulting judgement.
And with that I can point the finger right at the faggot Stackers, their trail is easy enough to see. Necessary as they are.

TC
TC
March 15, 2019 10:35 am

Strangely similar to Baruch Goldstein and the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre.

I do wonder why these nuts who slaughter women and children don’t focus their killing instead on the actual people responsible for whatever slight they perceive. Beware the misdirection.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  TC
March 15, 2019 10:47 am

How far do you think a single shooter would get going after an elected official? They have a phalanx of hired guns surrounding them. He wanted to make an impression and a target rich environment where there would likely be no weapons present- remember Vaes Dothrak from GOT?

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 11:21 am

ttps://www.rt.com/news/453477-yellow-vests-masonic-lodge/

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum -(I’ll bet I don’t pass this pagan prophecy around as much as the average person that spends cash) ……….yellow vests hit a lodge in France

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 11:33 am

Hinkley had no problem getting to Reagan. How many Presidents have we lost to assassination? And what about the Congressional softball shooter? That’s a pretty recent one.

No. This guy chose his targets with cool, calm intent. Whoever he decided to go after was going to get popped.

And this is pure speculation, but I’d bet good money there WERE weapons in that Mosque. You’ll never hear that on the news even if it were true.

The Ides of March
The Ides of March
  Irish Lord
March 16, 2019 1:12 am

Plus, he was ready to die.

TC
TC
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 11:54 am

Sorry, we don’t watch TV so I don’t get the GOT reference. Regardless, just seems to me killing innocent people will always be more counter productive than productive. Guess we’ll see what the fallout is.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  TC
March 15, 2019 5:35 pm

“…killing innocent people will always be more counter productive than productive.”

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Dresden

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Hiroshima

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  hardscrabble farmer
March 15, 2019 5:41 pm

HSF,

How many North Koreans did we kill? Were they innocent? Maybe I’m missing your point?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Donkey Balls
March 16, 2019 9:28 am

First of all we didn’t kill “North Koreans” we killed Koreans. We split that country in two, they didn’t. NK/SK is an American structure.

TC wrote-

“…killing innocent people will always be more counter productive than productive.”

My response was to demonstrate that killing innocent people can in fact be very ‘productive’- in that your ends are achieved through the deliberate and targeted killing of innocents.

This wasn’t an issue of morality but rather efficacy. We may not want it to be true, but it is.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  hardscrabble farmer
March 16, 2019 9:58 am

Got it, HSF. Thanks for clarification. I didn’t realize it was a conversation between you and T4C.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Administrator
March 15, 2019 10:53 am

Looks like the Government of New Zealand is on MY side in this exploding shit storm of non controversy.

NtroP
NtroP
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 3:36 pm

I think the Senator is an Aussie, and is catching a lot of flak for his letter.
Not that it isn’t true.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  NtroP
March 15, 2019 4:09 pm

I appreciate the correction. Some of those uploaded docs can be a real bear to read for us “mature” folks.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 4:17 pm

At least Irish Turd is consistent. Consistently stupid on every issue. The author is not Kiwi. And he is one voice out of hundreds, and he has been condemned by every other voice in the Australian and NZ govts.

Hard to believe anyone is as stupid aIrish Turd, but there it is, in black and white.

e.d ott
e.d ott
  Administrator
March 15, 2019 11:11 am

A rather curious response. Quite likely a personal opinion that hasn’t been officially vetted by the Establishment, but given the circumstances, I agree with the point of view.
Violence will beget violence.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  e.d ott
March 15, 2019 12:04 pm

NEVER lose sight of the fact that it WASN’T Christians who started this.

Jesus never instructed us to be Satan’s door mat.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 4:18 pm

Guess the Iraqis bombed themselves.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Anonymous
March 15, 2019 5:39 pm

I didn’t realize the Vatican had its own Air Force. My bad!

idiot

mygirl
mygirl
  Administrator
March 15, 2019 8:41 pm

WOW! A politician telling it like it is? Hell has surely frozen over. Kudos Sen Anning. Countdown to how quickly the good senator is removed from office.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Administrator
March 15, 2019 10:56 am

Was there ever any doubt that this guy was making a social statement?

e.d ott
e.d ott
  Administrator
March 15, 2019 11:06 am

Of course they are.
The weapons fit the agenda – semi-auto shotgun and rifle. A mention of Trump thrown in for good measure stating the killer’s respect for Trump’s immigration policies but a disdain for his leadership ability. Given the Libtard Connecticut Supreme Court news about Remington being liable for Sandy Hook deaths because their products were used this is going to be good political fodder for more gun laws, bans, and grabs.
Raw meat for the press.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  e.d ott
March 15, 2019 11:48 am

You’re drawing the erroneous conclusion that the discord that’s rising in America wouldn’t happen if this one guy in New Zealand hadn’t gone off his nut.

I respectfully disagree. Our woes are deep rooted right here at home. Whatever happens next was always GOING to happen. I for one would like to see the issue put to bed once and for all. It can’t happen soon enough to suit me. I’m tired of waiting for the sword to fall…and fall it must.

RiNS
RiNS
  Irish Lord
March 16, 2019 4:07 am

He sez

I respectfully disagree…
hilarious

Why start now Erie?

anarchyst
anarchyst
March 15, 2019 10:57 am

Betcha it points to the Israeli mossad and jewish interests. What better way to force political change than to engineer another “false flag” operation…

e.d ott
e.d ott
  anarchyst
March 15, 2019 11:21 am

Jooos … yes, of course.
I forgot about the Schlomo and Schmeckel angle entirely because no one else could have a personal revenge motive.

gilberts
gilberts
March 15, 2019 11:21 am

Wish someone would finish off the rest of them. Islam is a curse on all mankind and its destruction and the killing or conversion of all its believers would be a good thing for all humanity in my opinion. Churchill dubbed it the most retrograde institution in all mankind for a reason. Learn what they actually believe-their own teachings make it clear there can be no peace between us until we are all either dead, enslaved, or converted. Until that changes, more must die.

It’s easy to feel bad about women and children getting killed, however if you learn about their violent faith, you will learn that even the seemingly peaceful ones are still a threat, because in their faith, just being in the lands of the non-muslims is a way to get the ball down the field. Producing more children in those lands is a way to get the ball down the field. Don’t forget what the Brit muslims say- “Your daughter will marry a bearded man!” They know even if they just sit still in Britain quietly multiplying and terrorizing each other, they’re advancing their cause and birth #s and political influence are on their side. Their own preachers teach them if you live in a non-muslim land, consider yourself like a soldier trapped behind enemy lines. Just stay there and keep expanding your family and your influence.

You can denounce people who feel like this attack was just fine. You can feel bad for the women and children. You can decry violence. Just don’t forget these people practice a violent, murderous, hateful faith that seeks to subjugate you, murder unbelievers, and under which you would have no rights or freedoms and from which there can be no peace unless you surrender as a slave or convert. It’s akin to trying to seek peace with Japanese militarisim in WWII. There is no reasoning with it. Either it is weaker than you, and in a more or less dormant state, or stronger and in a violent, expansionist state. The ISIS caliphate is a wonderful example of the world they want. Do you want to live in that world? I assume the answer is NO, so support, either directly or indirectly, the continued murder and destruction of these people and their culture of death, because they will never stop trying to reduce the world to slavery.

Please read some, or all, of this essay by Matt Bracken. He is absolutely correct. If you have any opinions on muslims, read this article. There are some vital issues you must know about if you’re going to have an opinion on them.
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Ten Arabic Words: A challenge to national security professionals engaged in the Global War On Terror

Ten Arabic Words: Bracken’s Challenge to National Security Professionals

by Matthew Bracken

If you are a politically-correct bliss-ninny with a coexist bumper sticker slapped on the back of your Subaru, and you don’t have the slightest clue what the following ten words mean, then this essay is not meant for you. You are excused.

dawah, dhimmi, hijra, jizya, kafir, shaheed, shariah, takfir, taqiyya, ummah

But if you are a national security professional, senior military officer or political leader involved in any aspect of the “Global War On Terror,” AKA “Countering Violent Extremism,” these are ten words that should already be a part of your working vocabulary. If you can’t readily discuss their meaning, significance, and relationships, then you are worse than a fool, you are disgrace to your office and a danger to your country.

If you don’t already have a firm grasp of the meaning of these words, then you are as prepared to conduct the GWOT as President Obama’s “Pajama Boy” is prepared to fight a heavyweight MMA champion in a no-quarter steel-cage death match.

If you couldn’t accurately define at least eight out of the ten directly from your personal knowledge base, then as a national security professional, you are an abject failure. You are as dangerously ignorant as a parent who would send his ten-year-old son to a NAMBLA summer camp, because a friendly self-identified “Namblan” neighbor said it was like Boy Scout Camp, but even more fun, and completely free of charge.

In effect, you sent your innocent and vulnerable young son to a summer camp run by perverts, pedophiles and predators, and you didn’t even know it, because you couldn’t be bothered to learn the actual meaning of NAMBLA independently from your helpful Namblan neighbor. Sounds insane, doesn’t it? Nobody could be that stupid, right? Wrong. That level of stupidity is official Obama administration policy when it comes to fighting the GWOT.

So, if you are an Army general or Navy admiral who, right here and now, without looking at your smart phone, cannot discuss how a kafir becomes a dhimmi, and what a dhimmi’s rights and options (if any) are under shariah, then you are as ignorant of your job as an European-theater Army general circa 1942 who did not know a panzer from a pancake, or a schutzstaffel from a schnitzel. A person as ignorant as you should be kept away from any responsibility for protecting our nation. You are incompetent, and you are a fool.

If you don’t know how to determine when a Muslim suicide bomber is a shaheed and when he is a terrorist according to the shariah, then you are as dangerous to our national safety as a North Atlantic ship captain who believes that icebergs are a fairy tale concocted by conspiracy theorists. Full speed ahead, Captain Smith!

If you don’t know takfir from taqiyya, and can’t discuss the meaning and importance of both, you are as useless as a WW2 intelligence officer who didn’t know the Kriegsmarine from the Luftwaffe, (but who thought that one of them was a private flying club, based on conversations that he overheard among his ever-helpful German cleaning staff).

If you cannot, right now, intelligently discuss the global ummah and its relationship to the OIC in the context of the GWOT, then you should be working for the Department of Parks and Recreation, and not the Department of Homeland Security. If you don’t know what the OIC refers to in this context, put on a dunce cap, and go stand in the corner. And if you don’t know whether your office is in the Dar al Islam or the Dar al Harb, please jump out of an upper-story window, and when you hit the sidewalk, ask any immigrant who is engaged in hijra. He’ll know the answer, even if you do not.

If you don’t know how dawah relates to jihad when faithful Muslims are engaged in long-term hijra, you should turn in your official credentials and take early retirement. You are as oblivious as a WW2 U.S. Army general who thought that the Geheime Staatspolizei were German motorcycle policemen much like our American state troopers, because a helpful German passer-by told him so.

If you don’t know what the three options are for a kafir who violates the shariah when living in the dar al Islam, then please get out of the national security business. If you don’t know why a dhimmi would care about jizya, please retire, and hand your duties over to someone who has the natural curiosity and personal integrity to conduct his own study of our actual enemies and their actual strategies. But in the meantime, you must immediately stop lapping up the false narrative being spoon-fed to you by hostile foreign agents, domestic traitors, useful idiots, and cowards who know better—but who won’t make waves while their pensions are beckoning.

If your job is national security, and you didn’t score at least an eighty on the ten-word quiz, then you have obviously swallowed the big lie that we can safely delegate the understanding of our Islamist enemies to the WW2 equivalent of “moderate Nazis.” Sounds insane, doesn’t it? But under President Obama, this is indeed our national policy for fighting the GWOT: allow a range of Muslim Brotherhood front groups to conduct America’s narrowly limited analysis of so-called “radicalized Islam,” and thereafter guide our policies toward Islam and Muslims in general.

Here is an important example straight from current events. Please tell us, oh national security professional, whom has the United Nations delegated the critical task of selecting and “screening” the Muslim “refugees” who are currently arriving in the USA at the rate of thousands per month? Any guesses? It is the same organization that the Obama administration has also optimistically granted the authority to choose our new Muslim “refugee” immigrants. If you don’t know the answer, please get out of the national security business.

So who is it? It’s the fifty-seven-nation Organization of Islamic Cooperation, headquartered in Saudi Arabia, which I referenced above. The mission of the OIC is to promote the spread of Islam across the globe until there is no more dar al harb, and all of the kafirs have either been converted to Islam, killed, or forced into submission as dhimmis. If you didn’t know, dhimmis are formally and legally subjugated second-class citizens who must pay the special jizya tax as the price of their being allowed to live under shariah in the ummah.

But this special offer is only extended to Christians and Jews: all others must choose between conversion to Islam, and the sword. That is, if their Muslim conquerors grant them the option of conversion. According to the Shariah, the defeated kafirs may also be killed or enslaved, if either of these two outcomes would be considered more beneficial to the ummah, based on local conditions and needs. (Of course, the captured women and girls may be taken as sex-slaves.) Mohammed did all of the above, and he commanded that these practices be continued in perpetuity, and they are.

The charter of the OIC puts Islamic shariah law ahead of secular law. This means, for example, that the official position of the OIC is that Muslims who leave the faith should be killed, and that any faithful Muslim who kills an apostate ex-Muslim has done no sin, but instead should be thanked and congratulated for the deed. It’s the same with adulterers: they should die, and killing an adulterer is no crime.

Yes, that really is their position, and they really do believe it, and much more than that. The OIC is made up of fifty-seven Muslim nations, united by a common belief in the supremacy of Islam, and their mutual obligation to conduct both dawah and jihad until the Dar al Islam covers the globe, and Allah’s eternal and immutable shariah has supplanted godless democracy and all manmade laws. This dawah includes the practice of using taqiyya when making arrangements or having negotiations with as-yet unsubmitted kafirs in the dar al harb.

So it’s no wonder that ninety-nine percent of the “refugees” being “screened” by the OIC and transported into the USA are Muslim, even though the Christians and other non-Muslims (who until recently made up over ten percent of the populations of Syria and Iraq) are suffering a brutal genocide and holocaust at the hands of Islamic State kidnappers, mass-rapists and mass-executioners.

The same OIC which is choosing our Muslim “refugees” is also strong-arming the European Union, the United States and the United Nations into accepting shariah-compliant religious blasphemy laws, which will turn criticism of Islam into illegal “hate speech.” It’s worth noting that Bill and Hillary Clinton have collected millions of dollars in “speaking fees” and “donations” from OIC members, and perhaps unremarkably, Hillary Clinton also supports outlawing criticism of Islam, if the criticism leads to violence by Muslims.

In light of this, it’s particularly sad to see disgraced former General David Petraeus heap even more shame upon himself, with his recent call for a mindless capitulation to Islamic extortion threats, extortion threats which have been ongoing against kafirs for 1,400 years. With fourteen centuries of history to examine, “Don’t make the Muslims angry, or they’ll run amok like uncontrollable sub-human savages, and kill lots of innocent people” is a wretched strategy for a former American general and intelligence agency director to espouse.

His call for the end of free speech rights anywhere and anytime that they “offend” Muslims is no different than warning a beaten wife not to anger her chronically abusive husband again, lest he give her yet another violent thrashing—which would then be entirely her fault. In fact, she should be punished again, just for provoking him after being warned not to!

This is not merely the heckler’s veto, which we are, sadly, familiar with today on the American college campus. This is the Muslim terrorist’s veto, and it means forced submission to Islam’s shariah law as the price of temporarily forestalling Muslim violence. Shame on David Petraeus for siding with the perpetrators of Islamic terrorism, and not the victims. But at least his motives are transparent: pure greed. Petraeus, who has no background in finance or economics, is making millions of dollars by hustling in Muslim nations for the multi-billion-dollar global hedge fund KKR. They want something for their money, and he gave it to them in his recent Washington Post column. (Read “Why David Petraeus really wants you to shut up about Islamism,” TheFederalist.com, May 18, 2016.)

Let me offer you another simple test that you may apply to your own national security work space and mission. If you have been ordered to purge the ten listed Arabic words (and others) from your official GWOT lexicon, and instead to hand over the task of analyzing “Islamic radicalism” to alleged “moderate Muslims,” then you are being played for a fool by our nation’s most implacable and devious enemies, both foreign and domestic.

Fifteen years after the twin towers came down, you have no excuse for such obliviousness. After the next 9-11, you will not be able to plead ignorance yet again. As a national security official, you have a duty to perform your own due diligence. You must educate yourself, and reject the politically-correct blindfold that you have been ordered to wrap around your own mind.

Sun Tzu wrote: “if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.”

Today, we are literally outsourcing our intelligence analysis in the GWOT to the OIC and various Muslim Brotherhood front groups. Simply do a search for “Holy Land Foundation, Hamas, CAIR, and FBI” to begin your overdue education. Is it any wonder that the official “Countering Violent Extremism” narrative holds that there is utterly no connection between Islamic terrorism and Islam? That the Islamic State, which quotes chapter and verse of the Koran as justification for its every decision, is not Islamic? That Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the Caliph of ISIS, who holds a PhD in Islamic Studies from the Islamic University of Baghdad, knows less about Islam than President Obama and his American-trained national security staff?

In 2016, ignorance of the reality of the Islamist threat is no longer an excuse. Many resources are readily available if you are willing to look unblinkingly at the light of truth. I would suggest the online video lectures given by Stephen Coughlin and Dr. Bill Warner as starting points. Those who need or desire to read an exhaustively researched (over a thousand footnotes) academic treatise on the present Islamist threat should carefully study Coughlin’s “Catastrophic Failure: Blindfolding America in the Face of Jihad.”

After 9-11, Mr. Coughlin was an acclaimed subject matter expert and frequent high-level lecturer at the CIA, the FBI, and the Pentagon, until 2008 when he was made persona-non-grata on federal property as an unwelcome “Islamophobe.” And who made the determination of Mr. Coughlin’s “Islamophobia?” The same Muslim Brotherhood front groups that our intelligence agencies now rely upon for their understanding of “violent extremism,” which, of course, we are assured has absolutely nothing to do with Islam.

We know this must be true, because President Obama has told us so. Unless, of course, he is practicing taqiyya on behalf of the ummah. Taqiyya is a bedrock principle of Islamic shariah, a ready tool for Muslims to use when they are dealing with kafirs. And not only radical Muslims, but ordinary, everyday, “moderate” Muslims. According to the shariah, it’s not a sin when a Muslim lies to a kafir in order to promote Islam. In that case, taqiyya is just a very clever form of dawah, helping to prepare the kafirs for the final Islamic jihad victory.

Now, go look up the Arabic words that you didn’t know, and read the article again, with fuller understanding. Then, go ask your colleagues how they did on the quiz. In the current threat environment, when mistakes are punished with passenger jets falling out of the sky, seventy is a failing grade for a trained and educated national security professional.

Please strive to do better. Your country is depending on you. Don’t let us down again. Educate yourself, and then prepare to stand firm against the prevailing winds of political correctness. Orwell said, “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” Remember your core values, and stand tall against America’s enemies, both foreign and domestic.

Gunner
Gunner
March 15, 2019 11:52 am

Apparently mosques lead to mass shootings.

We should ban them.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Gunner
March 15, 2019 12:36 pm

That’s true from every conceivable angle.

Kudos

Gunner
Gunner
March 15, 2019 11:53 am

Gee the Toronto police are flying by all the Mosques in the GTA.

Preferential treatment?

When Christian Churches get attacked around the world almost every day we who believe in Christ get nothing, no media, no fly By

March 1, 2019

Over 30 Nigerian Christians were killed in a brutal early morning attack by radical Islamic Fulani herdsmen, who have been systematically targeting believers living on lands the extremists claim to be their territory.

The Guardian reports that the deadly assault occurred at around 4 a.m. near the town of Maro, in Kajuru County of Kaduna state, where the attackers set fire to several buildings, including homes and churches. The extremists shot civilians with rifles as they fled the burning establishments.

Muslims Brutally Slaughter Over 30 Christians in Church Attack in Nigeria, Set Fire to Homes and Churches

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Gunner
March 15, 2019 12:35 pm

The wyrm is starting to turn. it’s about to get interesting.

RiNS
RiNS
  Administrator
March 15, 2019 3:51 pm

He looks kinda oafish.

Stucky
Stucky
March 15, 2019 12:10 pm

“You fucking hypocrite Christian, ” —— LLPOH

Nice call — that describes most of them, even here on TBP. Although we do have notable exceptions; DD-Maggie, T4C, EC, BL, TC and a few others.

This is NOT the first time people here have rejoiced over the injury or death of totally innocent people. Of course you remember Smokey’s “He should have ducked”, and my scathing response, and the ensuing shit-fest — perhaps the greatest one ever on TBP. And that’s not the only example.

All that is needed is the “right” enemy ….. and mooslims are ALWAYS the right enemy for these kind of cold calloused heartless people.

To them it simply doesn’t matter one iota whether or not the people murdered were innocent. They are guilty and deserving of murder simply because of guilt by association. You have morally degenerate worms like Irish Lord bellowing bullshit about mooslims blowing up churches for decades — and calls that ample justification to murder anyone of that religion, including children.

And The Worm sees nothing wrong with this??!! Even more heinous is his belief that he’s a Good Christian — doing God’s work, killing the real infidels, dontchyaknow?

How is he any different than any mooslimfuk terrorist who does the same thing in the name of Islam? The answer is; no difference whatsoever.

This Worm is the very definition of ‘psychopath’. If God is a god of justice then when The Worm stands at the Pearly Gates, I would expect God to tell him — “depart from me, I never knew you”.

Due to TBPs ever growing readership it is no surprise that Worms like him come along. It’s happened before, and it will continue to happen again. We, the Normal&Faithful, just need to band together and apply the Rod of Justice to this diseased corpuscle until he is eliminated from the holy body of TBP. Semper Fi.

However, what is discouraging is the number of people who vote up The Worm. Does TBP REALLY have SO MANY people who support The Murder Of Innocents …. merely because they are Muslims??

If so, what are we becoming?? And do people like you, RiNS, me, and the few other “up” voters have a place here? Just a though that each of us must decide for ourselves.

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Note To Newbies: I have consistently been one of the more vocal opponents of Islam here on TBP. I really do HATE that fucken religion. I don’t care for the followers. If I were POTUS, I would issue an EO to ban all mooslims fro immigrating to America. Their culture/religion is completely at odds with ours. Like oil and water, it does not mix.

I say that in case some think this post is a pro-mooslim post. It is not! Is is written in hopes that at least one or two of you who cheer Murder, Inc. that you will step back from the edge of insanity, and consider your own humanity.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Stucky
March 15, 2019 2:34 pm

If you’re going to pick a fight, come straight at me like a man and not a faggot. I’ll set you straight right quick.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 4:22 pm

Turd – you are way over your head. On your best day you are not equal to the corn in Stuck’s stool.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Llpoh
March 15, 2019 5:41 pm

You’d know all about what’s up someone else’s ass, wouldn’t you? Faggot.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Stucky
March 15, 2019 4:21 pm

Thanks Stuck. I suspect that The Worm is gaming the votes. Long time since a low life of his calibre showed his face.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Llpoh
March 15, 2019 4:33 pm

Sooo, you’re aiming to ban yet another newbie? Keep jocking instead of banning, it makes you look like a crybaby.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Donkey Balls
March 15, 2019 5:47 pm

Assholes like Llpoh are the reason more people don’t donate to this site. By treating this site as his own personal sandbox, he has shown immense disrespect to his host. I was actually thinking about donating myself until he showed his gay little ass. Now I’m going to have to give it some more thought. I still think it’s a fine site with many good people participating. That’s a plus.

And no…I don’t want to see anyone banned for my part. That is never the answer.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 6:01 pm

Irish,

That wasn’t aimed at you, it was aimed at LLPOH and he knows it.

I’m not taking any sides, I just EXPECT a fair fight here on this illustrious blog.

Banning is, mostly, for babies although a few have certainly deserved it.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Irish Lord
March 16, 2019 1:42 am

Irish – the Admin has clearly said who is shitting on this site. You are that person. Read for comprehension. When Admin, Stuck, EC, Rob, etc. are calling you out, you can take it to the bank that you are screwing the pooch. Those guys are the heart and soul of this place, and have been for years.

You are like a pigeon playing chess – shitting on the board, knocking pieces over, and then strutting around like you are a grand master. So far, you have not shown yourself to be anything but a dick, advocating violence, even against women and children, and maligning TBPers that have made significant contributions. Not a good start, and if history has shown anything on TBP it is younare unlikely to survive around here unless you wise the fuck up instantly.

EL Coyote (EC)
EL Coyote (EC)
  Donkey Balls
March 15, 2019 9:37 pm

Badonkadonkey, why do you cry? It has always been this way. Some folks last a few weeks, some a few days, some a few hours. It isn’t banning, it’s culling. LLPOH said a long time ago that people are expected to contribute something of value here, you can’t just come in and stir up shit. Another of LLPOH’s (it does seem like he that has the gold makes the rules) unwritten rules is honesty, if you come in shuckin’ and jivin’ you will be shown the door rather quickly. Quit yer bitchin’. The big dogs know what they are doing.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Donkey Balls
March 16, 2019 1:33 am

Donkey – no matter the name you use, you are rock stupid. Neither I nor Stuck mentioned banning him. You made that shit up. Running him off seems a reasonable course of action given the shit he is spouting and the abuse he is directing at folks that have contributed mightily around here for years, like Rob for instance.

His retarded comments about the massacre of women and children are despicable in and of themselves, and seems to me he is advocating for violence, which is something that I suggest should be avoided, as it will indeed damage the site, in my opinion.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Llpoh
March 16, 2019 10:05 am

LLPOH,

You know by now, many of your opinions have no effect on me. Espescially ones concerning intelligence. Opinions are like assholes, ya know.
Yes, you are a respected long timer but, you ain’t anyone’s master. Don’t let shit go to your head. As far as banning, I’ve seen your M.O.

If you can’t take the heat from a newbie, what are you?

As far as ILs comment about women and children go, what do you think religious wars lead to? Religious wars are wars of all wars.

Women and children are the ultimate resource, of course your enemy will target them. What will you do in return? How many laws have been passed “for the children ” that have resulted in less freedoms? That last sentence is simply something to think about.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  Donkey Balls
March 16, 2019 8:41 pm

Is Irish the resurrected. 22winmag, my limbic system is registering patterns and frequency .

Stucky
Stucky
  Llpoh
March 15, 2019 5:45 pm

” I suspect that The Worm is gaming the votes. ”

You know what? I think you are 100% correct.

Just look at the RiNS comment about making a joke about this incident. He got 24 down votes for that comment???? Are you kidding me? People here generally do not down vote RiNS, and certainly never in those numbers. And never for such an innocuous comment.

And look at all the up votes on his posts. He’s making the same tired old evil comments on every post … and he gets 5,10,15,20 up votes??? Bullshit. That’s not the pattern of voting here.

Also, his style of writing and confrontational tone is pretty much exactly like that last asshole Admin banned a week or so ago. Jeezus, I already forgot that asshole’s name.

**********ADMIN ************ Is this Irish Lord worm the same douchebag from last week? Can you check the IP?

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Llpoh
March 15, 2019 5:58 pm

Well at least we know who here thinks “votes” matter. Seriously, you should really stop digging and put down the shovel. And I say this as a friend…bwahaha!

mygirl
mygirl
  Stucky
March 15, 2019 9:03 pm

No one of right mind rejoices in the death of innocent and unarmed peoples. The great irony here is generally when reading about mass murder perpetrated by a person or persons of a particular religion, that religion is Islam. Muslim murderers have killed thousands vs. how many dead muslims killed by non-muslims?( We aren’t going to call military sponsored death murder, just for the sake of clarity) Also, Muslims are VERY adept at killing one another.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  mygirl
March 16, 2019 1:55 am

Mygirl – I am no fan of Islam, but Muslims in general are rank amateurs compared to the deaths dealt both direcly and indirectly by Uncle Sam. Muslims have killed great numbers, but Uncle is responsible for as many as a million in Iraq alone. The shit the US, and Russia, and US allies, have pulled in Muslim countries is immense.

Your comment about how many Muslims killed by non-Muslims is ignorant, because the number is huge. And it far exceeds, at least in recent decades, the numbers of non-Muslims killed by Muslims.

If it were happening to me and mine, I expect I might be a bit peeved myself.

So what is the answer? Stay the hell out of Muslim nations. Do not allow Muslims to enter/immigrate to western nations. It is simple as that.

But it will never happen. And then there is this little issue: oil.

Here is a little snippet from one article about this:

“A March report by Physicians for Social Responsibility calculates the body count of the Iraq War at around 1.3 million, and possibly as many as 2 million. However, the numbers of those killed in Middle Eastern wars could be much higher. In April, investigative journalist Nafeez Ahmed argued that the actual death toll could reach as high as 4 million if one includes not just those killed in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the victims of the sanctions against Iraq, which left about 1.7 million more dead, half of them children, according to figures from the United Nations.”

I cannot confirm the reliability of this. But even if it is massively off, the numbers of Muslims killed as a result of non-Muslim action far exceeds anything they have done to non-Muslims in recent years.

The west is not innocent. Diversity is a disaster. Islam is not compatible with western culture.

mygirl
mygirl
  Llpoh
March 16, 2019 3:25 am

Lipoh: I post a response and I find the post way down and because of the placement it makes no sense. So if that happens please know I’m posting in response to what you wrote about my comment re Muslim numbers killed.

I made a point of not including deaths happening as a result of military action. Why? Because that becomes a rabbit hole. How many died at the hands of communists, Hitler, Pol Pot, et al? How many died as a result of the Inquisition?

I agree with you regarding the horrors of Uncle Sam’s blood thirst.

My point was that in terms of ‘non military’ death, the Muslims have killed far more than were ever killed by non-Muslims. You shouldn’t negate the killings of Christians in Nigeria, Egypt, Indonesia and other predominantly Muslim countries. No American bombs were dropped there. Fact is, it’s a mandate of Islam to kill the infidel. Written in the Holy Book. A virtue. They kill other Muslims if they don’t follow a proscribed belief system, they kill lots of their own. Islam is a death cult and to deny that fact is to live in a fantasy. Please go read up on what they did to the children in Beslan. 380 deaths and many by torture and rape.

They don’t assimilate, they invade and destroy and the Western governments lie and make it a crime to report the facts of the Muslim invasion. They claim no-go areas in Sweden and France are lies and yet Fedex and the police refuse to go into those areas. The rape gangs exist, Bataclan happened, Female genital mutilation happens by the thousands in Western countries and that happens because Iraq?

RiNS
RiNS
  mygirl
March 16, 2019 3:48 am

Mygirl you are engaging in yet another strawman argument with llpoh…

Where did he deny that Islam is a death cult?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  mygirl
March 16, 2019 4:01 am

My girl – as I said, I am no fan. I am very well educated in this field, so you suggesting me to go read up is unnecessary. If you were not so new you would know that. My knowledge in this area is extensive.

You cannot divorce military action from non-military. The vast numbers of deaths resulting from western action prompts reprisal against a large range of groups and individuals.

Islam is not a religion of peace. It is incompatible with western culture. But to think what is happening in Muslim nations, against Christians, etc., is different from what the west perpetrates is unrealistic. And Africa is a lawless nation. It is not just Muslims behaving badly. It is damn near everyone. It is not the Black continent for nothing.

Islam factions hate each other. The only groups they hate more is anyone sticking their noses in Muslim lands. They never forget, they never give in.

By the way, the Koran does not mandate the killing of infidels. That is an overstatement and it is out of context.

More accurately, and in context, it says this: “And when the forbidden months have passed, kill the idolaters wherever you find them and take them prisoners, and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent and observe Prayer and pay the Zakat, then leave their way free. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.” It says “idolaters”, not infidels. Subtle but concrete difference . Unless you are an idolater, of course.

Islam is not peaceful. It is intent on world conversion. It is ruthless in its punishments, in its treatment of apostates, gays, and, yes infidels. But not to the extent you claim.

The Ides of March
The Ides of March
  Stucky
March 16, 2019 1:20 am

You got something against collateral damage?

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Administrator
March 15, 2019 5:39 pm

It strikes me they are dealing with the issue quite forcefully. Maybe why he likes them. And I wonder if you have checked to see if he was reader here. Or could you? Or would divulge it?

Tony
Tony
March 15, 2019 12:19 pm

Religion is a mental illness for those who can’t think for themselves. You probably believed in santa claus and the easter bunny at one time but thought it ridiculous later in life when you were smarter. Take that next step and leap of logic. To think of all the millions who have died over religion is shameful. Also, the nonsense about communism and other “isms” killing more people is nonsense as well. FUNDAMENTALISM is the killer whatever religion is it.

Angel
Angel
  Tony
March 15, 2019 2:04 pm

God exist deal with it or not but don’t try to bullshit me with your foolishness.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Tony
March 15, 2019 2:41 pm

I think it’s cute that you think your intellect is going to be your salvation…especially considering you’re shooting blanks.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Administrator
March 15, 2019 2:38 pm

Does it really matter? We are defined by what we DO, not by what we say. And we both know this was going to happen at some point. It’s always the loose threads that come unraveled first. It’s nothing more than the leading indicator of the destruction to come in a far more systemic cascade.

EL Coyote (EC)
EL Coyote (EC)
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 9:48 pm

I have been here long enough that I can almost peg a loser. The reason Stucky asks if IL is Ned is because most questionable noobs share some common themes and comment arc.

1. I love this place, there is no censorship
2. I want to be Smokey.
3. I hate niggers, Jews, Muzzies and immigrants and I want them all dead.
4. I hate Stucky and LLPOH, they are bullies.
6. You need to censor this place, Admin, it’s a damn shame some folks are keeping your blog back.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  EL Coyote (EC)
March 15, 2019 10:24 pm

EC,

So, are you saying if Irish Lord (not an advisable name) stayed around and kissed everyone’s ass for a few months, THEN he could go on a bender?

P.S. there’s lots of people on TBP that hate niggers, muzzies, kikes, micks, LLPOH and Stucky (me…I love those guys ?). If it’s because IL is gaming the votes, meh, whatever. I guess that’s a reason. If it’s because a “big dog” got his feelings hurt….well come on, really?

Btw, ain’t a big dog if you’re crying about someone disagreeing with you. Did he say some fucked up shit? If the world be itching for war, this ain’t shit. Women and children will bare more of the brunt than any other group. As it has always been.

IL may not be right about everything he says but for fuck’s sake, who is? He ain’t dumb…just different.

EL Coyote (EC)
EL Coyote (EC)
  Donkey Balls
March 15, 2019 11:12 pm
Stucky
Stucky
  Donkey Balls
March 16, 2019 10:36 am

Find where either llpoh or myself said “ban” and I’ll give you the keys to my mint condition ’95 Buick Century. It’s not about hurt feelings either.

Look, I disagree with 99% of what GCP writes. But, do I want him banned? Hell no. I even pleaded for him to write an original article … which he did … and it’s marching to 200 posts.

Irish Lord falls into a different category; a slime-ball of a human. Anyone who rejoices at the Slaughter of Innocents has crossed the line that separates humans from animals.

Thus, I have no interest in hearing him out, about anything. If he was a hard core Lefty everyone here would condemn him in a nanosecond. But because he is a Righty — and he hates mooslims — people give him a pass?? That is fucked up beyond belief.

As for me and my house, we will have no part in such hypocrisy.

God spoke to me and commanded me to make The Worm my sworn enemy for life. With the help of Llpoh&friends I predict we, the Righteous Ones, will slay that SOB with the Sword of Truth. Only then will peace and harmony return to TBP. Please join us in this noble cause.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Stucky
March 16, 2019 10:58 am

Stucky,

Thank you for taking the time. I’ve seen the MO on getting people banned. That accusation didn’t come out of left field. I didn’t see IL “rejoice” (I did see Islam rejoice on 9/11 though) but maybe I didn’t read closely enough? In any case, IL is not dumb. Irivani (I do agree with Irivani getting banned. She promoted her own site. Agreed, big no no) wasn’t dumb either. They were/are very strong in their opinions just like you and llpoh are. When people are under attack, and make no mistake about it (I don’t believe anyone on TBP is naive about this), almost every one/group is under attack what the hell does anyone expect?

Let me be very clear…I do not condone targeting women and children. The sad fact is, women and children are both targets and are also USED as excuses to curtail freedom and to kill others. This will never change. Best to see reality.

I read the manifesto and the shooter did not care if women and children died. Islam has no qualms about it either. Soooooo, my question, as above is….

If your women and children are being killed/targeted, what will you do in return?

Remember, women and children are the future who without, there will be no future. You will be bred out. Which is currently happening.

Personally, if the shit hits the fan apocalyptically, I shall side with whites first and Christians second. That’s just how I roll.

I will add…pride goeth before the fall and no man in an Island unto himself.

Btw, “The Sword of Truth”? Loving that tactic. It’s the right one.

I love you, my brother. And that ain’t gay.

Stucky
Stucky
  Donkey Balls
March 16, 2019 11:31 am

“If your women and children are being killed/targeted, what will you do in return? “

1) I would want to kill the person who killed them.

2) I would NOT go and kill their women and children in retaliation.

At least I hope like fuck that I wouldn’t murder a child. And if I did murder a child in a fit of rage and anger, I would hope that my rational self would eventually return so that I could put a bullet in my own head.

Of course, this is all academic, my friend. As anyone who has ever endured the horrors of war (like my own parents, or perhaps yours) will tell you — all that morality stuff often flies out the window. People … GOOD people … can and will do HORRIBLE SHIT. I know that. So, #fukmedead … I might become a Slaughterer of Innocents as well.

At the end of the day I agree with this: “I shall side with whites first and Christians second. ”

Smooch smooch 🙂 🙂

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
March 15, 2019 2:04 pm

A pity. But let´s face facts. These people had no business being in New Zealand any more than Somalis should be in Minnesota. Identify the persons and groups who have allowed these people into Western countries and you will know who your real enemy is. There should not be ANY Muslim “communities” in any Western country. They can be made welcome as temporary guests but that is it. This is how it works. You have a few Muslims and they are polite and law-abiding. You have more than a certain number and they start rearranging the furniture in your house and shoving Sharia law down our throats. The solution is simple: Go home. And we promise not to pour into your countries. Problem solved.

GoneWest
GoneWest
  Southern Sage
March 15, 2019 3:01 pm

Agreed.

Now we, the USA, need to take the same advice and get the hell out of the middle east (and everywhere else we’re not invited for that matter). But guess what, we won’t do that because we want the oil, gold and control. So nothing will change. And just to add, supposedly the US is now energy independent and can start exporting oil. If that were true, why do we need to be in the ME and now Venezuela?

Finally, I’m not defending Muslims or Islam. Islam is a political system masquerading as a religion and is incompatible with our republic. Just because they call it a religion doesn’t mean we should tolerate it.

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
  GoneWest
March 15, 2019 3:16 pm

We are involved in the Middle East because of Israel. Full stop.

GoneWest
GoneWest
  Southern Sage
March 15, 2019 3:54 pm

I agree that Israel is definitely a factor. But not with “full stop” – it’s not only Israel.

It is about the oil and, correspondingly, the reserve currency which is enabled by the requirement to use dollars to purchase oil.

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
  GoneWest
March 15, 2019 4:08 pm

True, in a way, but Israel distorts everything for us in the ME.

GoneWest
GoneWest
  Southern Sage
March 15, 2019 4:10 pm

No way to argue with that.

AC
AC
  GoneWest
March 15, 2019 5:01 pm

Go research Genie Energy and their activities in the Golan Heights over the past few years.

Then look at who is on their ‘strategic advisory board’

James
James
March 15, 2019 3:49 pm

The Saxon awakens.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  James
March 15, 2019 4:04 pm

He went about his work more like a Viking than a Saxon, but your point is well taken.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Irish Lord
March 15, 2019 5:07 pm

The Saxons were the Sea-Wolves, 600 years before Europe was afraid of the Vikings.

Irish Lord
Irish Lord
  Anonymous
March 15, 2019 5:50 pm

I’m aware. I didn’t mean to imply the Saxon’s were sissies, I just personally feel the Vikings did it better.

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
March 15, 2019 4:13 pm

You people may want to watch them video’s again. Just sayin…

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  gatsby1219
March 15, 2019 4:37 pm

Anyone got a link?

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 15, 2019 5:04 pm

someone published counts on victims. above is a link to Vin Armani’s twitter, where he was documenting the memory holing, etc.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
March 15, 2019 7:53 pm

Here is something awful that happened on the other side of the world, and everyone is all worked up about it over here. The whole modus operandi sounds like something that could have happened in the U.S., and the Elitist Puppets ( the press) are emitting similar sounds, even bitching about ” the tones set by Donald Trump”. Here we have a perpetrator who sounds to be very self contradicting and rather dense, yet very organized in carrying out his acts.
I think this has all of the hall marks of another false flag event, but why? What sort of news is coming out right now that has been conveniently put on the back page to make room for “more important news?” Why New Zealand and not the United States?

The Ides of March
The Ides of March
  Coalclinker
March 16, 2019 1:26 am

Let’s blame it on the Russians.

StackingStock
StackingStock
  Coalclinker
March 16, 2019 1:48 am

Venezuela comes to mind.

Great comment.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  StackingStock
March 16, 2019 8:49 am

I have a feeling that the people who run the Security organs in New Zealand are soon to be unmasked to the people being shown their two-bit part in providing fake information that eventually “found” its way to the crooked-ass judges who run our FISA Courts. When the American people find out that they played a part in the treason of trying to remove Mr. Trump from office, it will sour relations for at least a generation. I also believe that the Kiwi citizens themselves will find out other, probably very seedy, things about their own elites. I can imagine the shit the NSA has on New Zealand, Australia, England, and the rest of our “allies”.

GoneWest
GoneWest
March 15, 2019 8:06 pm

Here we go, from ZeroHedge: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-15/new-zealand-change-gun-laws-after-mosque-shooting

New Zealand To Change Gun Laws After Mosque Shooting

Quote from New Zealand’s PM:

“I can tell you one thing right now, our guns laws will change.”

And from further on in the article:

New Zealand’s weapons legislation is considered more relaxed than most Western countries outside of the USA. Gun owners do need a license but they aren’t required to register their guns – unlike in neighboring Australia.

Very telling.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
March 16, 2019 9:54 am

Last week I had to fill out a form, in it it asked what my daily activities were. I confessed to coffee, housework, think about fishing, yard work. Upon further reflection I realized most of my day is spent here on TBP. Entertaining AND educational. And welcome to many new names appearing here.

@ Irish Lord. I cannot help but think of this scene from Braveheart. When my father was hanging out with Ian Fleming and crew they gave him a bottle of Scotch whiskey telling him it is where his folks are from. Spey Royal

We have our Welsh contingent with Holly and now a Mick. Welcome to the fray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9ffXnJQ0xE

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  KeyserSusie
March 16, 2019 1:22 pm

Keyser, are we going to get a book from you outlining your many adventures? Do we have to push you out of a tree first so you have time? We’re all anticipating Hardscrabble’s book. You could be next.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Vixen Vic
March 16, 2019 1:56 pm

VV, I am flattered to be mentioned in the same breath as HF. Thank you. I do not have a book in me. It requires focus more than I care to put in. I think El C should proofread all my posts and put them together in a coherent way.

In the meantime I am waiting for another movie to made about my exploits.

It perplexes me how my life appears in unusual echos bouncing back to me.

bob
bob
March 16, 2019 10:29 am

Typical MK Ultra hit…all the earmarks, right up to and including the retarded manifesto. “They” are obviously convinced of our collective idiocy, and there is little hope we’ll collectively do anything to fracture their beliefs about our intelligence.