800 YEAR OLD OAK DOESN’T BURN LIKE THAT

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Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Administrator
April 18, 2019 2:43 pm

We never would have heard about these if the fire at Notre Dame had not happened.

mygirl
mygirl
  Administrator
April 18, 2019 3:36 pm

Wait, Muslims are attacking and desecrating and destroying Christian Churches and artifacts? How can this be? They are a peaceful and peace loving folk or so I’ve been told.

CCRider
CCRider
April 18, 2019 12:21 pm

At the very first of your hearing the msm’s explanation of this fire was not “I doubt it” you’re not fully awake to the situation we’re in. It’s a conspiracy theory world. All ‘official’ pronouncements have to be doubted as the words (often the same exact words ) come out of their mouths. It’s now THEIR turn to prove themselves innocent.

steve
steve
April 18, 2019 12:27 pm

In this video she makes notice of the color of the smoke. It’s always white in these weird circumstances like the California fires, Boston marathon Bombing, etc. Trees burning from the inside out as is the cathedral spire. ABNORMAL? WAY YES !

Brian
Brian
  steve
April 18, 2019 12:37 pm

I found the smoke odd as well and to me it rules out a petroleum based accelerant.

BB
BB
  Brian
April 18, 2019 12:56 pm

I saw a video last night that showed two Arab looking men on top of the building.( The way they were dressed ) . Don’t know how they got the video but it was damning.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  steve
April 18, 2019 1:13 pm

Steve…
Maybe somebody will watch it this time. Mark posted it the other day on “If it looks like” and it seemed to get ignored.

mygirl
mygirl
  steve
April 18, 2019 4:01 pm

Actually white smoke is normal, the color of smoke is determined by how old the fire is, how much carbon dioxide and several other factors. If you want to undrstand more…here is an excellent article which explains how fire works.
https://www.fireengineering.com/articles/print/volume-158/issue-9/features/the-art-of-reading-smoke.html

Pequiste
Pequiste
April 18, 2019 12:49 pm

Have any mosques over in France been incinerated lately?

I think it peculiar that those religious buildings haven’t suffered similar “accidents”, don’t you?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
April 18, 2019 1:00 pm

Don’t get mad. Get even. comment image

Brian
Brian
  Iska Waran
April 18, 2019 1:34 pm

One can dream…. comment image

Gloriously Deplorable Paul
Gloriously Deplorable Paul
  Brian
April 18, 2019 3:27 pm

That fireball looks amazingly like Wilson.

NtroP
NtroP
  Iska Waran
April 18, 2019 2:21 pm

Looks like the perfect target for the MOAB.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
April 18, 2019 1:03 pm

800 year old cured oak from old stand timber is about as flammable as concrete. The Snopes squad is out there saying that the structural timbers used to keep that roof in place for close to a thousand years was ‘dry and rotted’ and a ‘spark’ could have gotten in there to start the fire.

What are you going to do? No one lives in the natural world anymore, they don’t the difference between a duraflame log and the real thing. You could tell them that churches spontaneously burst into flames and they’d probably believe it. It was an arson, now it’s a matter of how best to cover it up so they can get back to rebuilding it as a cultural center for the celebration of diversity.

Pequiste
Pequiste
  Hardscrabble Farmer
April 18, 2019 1:26 pm

Spontaneous Human combustion is the next step.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Hardscrabble Farmer
April 18, 2019 1:30 pm

True dat ! Try driving a nail into oak that’s only fifty years old…or even newly milled, for that matter.

This is all about advancing towards globalism. I posted a video under your remark on ‘the burning of notre dame’. Did you happen to watch it? It was ‘no longer available’ when I tried to repost it on a neighboring thread.

Check out the encyclicals that have been issued by the Jesuit (first ever) Pope Francis ( Jorge Bergoglio.) His one on climate change is very revealing as he eschews individualism, dogmatism and sectarianism.

He has met with leading Imams to declare that allah is the same god

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- all I’m saying, is that the Jesuits (another secret society) under Francis may have equal motivation to attain the goal of a one world religion. I ‘generalize’ these societies under freemasonry, as they work towards a common ideology.

Ever watched the animated video “I, Pet Goat II” ?

455Kc
455Kc
  ordo ab chao
April 18, 2019 3:38 pm

I’ve got a 91 year old house with exposed roof rafters that the rain gutters are attached to-I have no clue as to what species of wood it is, but nothing larger than a 6d nail could be used to install hangers for new gutters. Nails any larger would bend. Had to use screws and pre-drill the holes. On the positive side, there was no sign of rot, even on the north side of the house.

Michael Alexander
Michael Alexander
  455Kc
April 18, 2019 3:52 pm

Oak or Douglas Fir. I am leaning toward oak.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  455Kc
April 18, 2019 5:04 pm

I’ve done a lot of remodeling type work in 100 yr. old homes. Way back when, I bought a Paslode nailer that is powered by a gas canister with an electric spark provided by a battery. I use a ring shanked nail that is 3 1/4″ x .131″/12d nail. Rarely drives them deep enough to sink the head without a couple ‘taps’ from a 22 oz eastwing, and at times has nearly broken a knuckle with the recoil when hitting a knot……

(edit from 25) At least 30 yrs. ago, I helped another carpenter build a 60′ tall, 6000 bushel capacity overhead grain elevator, 3/4 inch tongue n groove fur plywood for the inside of the bins…..the farmer would not allow the use of an air nailer and the ‘skinny shanked’ nails. Had to do the whole thing with hand driven 16 ring shanks, using nothing smaller than 2 x 8’s, 10’s and 2 x 12’s of yellow pine…..

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- the good ole’ days are gone

mygirl
mygirl
  ordo ab chao
April 18, 2019 4:33 pm

Bergoglio is a fraud. He is not about the Catholic Church but is real great on progressive and globalist agendas.

Notre Dame’s interior and walls are all stone, the vault of the stone ceiling covers the wood roof, tourists have access to the balconies and people could get up to the roof and hide. The roof covered what was/is essentially an attic space between the stone vault and the wooden roof. The roof of the spire which collapsed was sheathed in lead, the fire had evidently melted the lead.

Three years ago three Muslim women were arrested for attempting to blow up the building. One of them, Ines Madani, was recently (April 8) sentenced to 8 years in prison.

There were two fire alarms that went off Monday evening. There is a permanent fire investigator working with the building, he investigated the first alarm and saw nothing. By the time the second alarm went off, fire was engulfing the building.

The French government technically owns the building and rebuilding funds will come from taxes and donations.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  mygirl
April 18, 2019 5:13 pm

What I know without question; the story is absolute crap. A construction site like that, with that much scaffolding erected, on a near thousand year old national monument, would have had about two safety inspectors for every worker swingin a hammer.

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- come hell or high water, the ‘owner’ of this planet is going to bring about a One World Gov, religion, and military

steve
steve
  ordo ab chao
April 18, 2019 6:56 pm

Here’s the Pet Goat video. AMAZING !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfHELyHHKRk

Jan
Jan
  steve
April 18, 2019 7:32 pm

Also, satan is the ruler of the air.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  steve
April 18, 2019 8:28 pm

Go to ‘the burning of notre dame’ article on this site and watch the video I posted there. I can’t hardly type for some reason- can’t find it on utube either- MUCH MORE details/ video by paydrov

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-snagged it

mygirl
mygirl
  ordo ab chao
April 18, 2019 8:43 pm

Now let’s fall deeper into the rabbit hole…

https://rgdn.info/en/rasshifrovka_prorocheskogo_mulfilma_i_pet_goat_ii

Barry G.
Barry G.
  steve
April 18, 2019 9:31 pm

What is pet goat? Just someone who posted the video in 2012?

mygirl
mygirl
  Barry G.
April 19, 2019 12:10 am

click on the link I provided for that information

Brian
Brian
  Hardscrabble Farmer
April 18, 2019 1:36 pm

Much like watching a portion of building falling through the point of MOST resistance, and saying fire did that.

mygirl
mygirl
  Brian
April 18, 2019 7:19 pm

Not only that but, the building had state-of-the-art wiring and fire protection along with fire alarms. This was arson, not some ‘short circuit’ as anonymously claimed…

“Benjamin Mouton was interviewed live on TV on Monday evening as the fire continued to burn the 850-year-old symbol of French culture and history. Here’s what he had to say:

“I don’t understand this at all. The fire’s spread is extremely curious. With really old oak like that, it’s super-hard, so you’d need a lot of smaller wood to first get the fire hot enough for the oak beams to burn.

In 2010 we replaced all the electrical wiring, so there’s no way this was sparked by a short-circuit. We put new wiring in place according to modern standards. And we went even further; we installed state-of-the-art fire protection and detection systems in the cathedral.

At all times, there are always two men on standby in the Cathedral, day and night, to go investigate anything the moment an alarm goes off, then if necessary to call the fire emergency services.

I am really stunned that this [the fire] has happened. It’s incomprehensible.”
That’s not all. Mouton told French construction magazine BatiActu the following:
“In 40 years of experience, I have never heard of a fire like this.

It would take a really combustible load at the start of such a fire for it to rapidly develop into the disaster we saw. Also, oak is a particularly fire-resistant wood.

The fire detection/protection system installed in the cathedral was of the highest level. It was a very expensive undertaking, but it enabled us to quickly ascertain whether a fire had started somewhere. Additionally, we had many old wooden doors replaced by fire-doors.

We also drastically reduced the number of electrical appliances throughout the building, and completely forbid them in the attic.”

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Hardscrabble Farmer
April 18, 2019 2:45 pm

islamophobic

psssht

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
April 18, 2019 3:40 pm

Is “islamophobic” in the latest “style guide”?????

IluvCO2
IluvCO2
  Anonymous
April 18, 2019 9:32 pm

As a UX person, that’s a good one!

mygirl
mygirl
  Hardscrabble Farmer
April 18, 2019 3:26 pm

So who were the workers on the cathedral? Who employed them? Was the construction insured? Were they monitored or could anyone dressed like a worker make it up there?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
April 18, 2019 1:50 pm

It’s the Muzzloids Period. They did it, case closed. Now can we just get busy Vaporizing some more countries with large Muzzie populations like the Sudan or how bout this one, IRAN.
The reeks of 911 Redux. Another video of some disgruntled out of work Camel Jockey in full regalia tiptoeing across the tower to burn down one of the most celebrated Cathedrals on the planet.
The amount of security they had in addition to the fire alarms and cameras and Muzzie terrorists just stroll past it in full uniform with a load of magnesium fire starters and climb all the way to the top without anyone suspecting anything. I don’t know bout yooze guys but I don’t need no more stinkin evidence, lets nuke em.
I don’t doubt in the least that they would decapitate a statue of the Blessed Virgin and burn churches willy nilly. But not this church. They had nothing to gain and much to lose to do this to this Iconic Church at this point in time. Maybe later but not at this point in time.
Suppose the video Admin posted and the one Steve posted are correct or as close to correct as we are likely to get for awhile. That would imply a well organized and executed plan with quite a lot of moving parts. The Muzzeloids acting alone without any of the multitude of spy agencies and their army of snitches getting so much as a wiff of a heads up seems as improbable as two separate smokers dropping lit butts in different locations at the same time on a flammable object that could either ignite that quickly without the smokers knowing it or smoldering long enough to suddenly erupt in flames. As a former drunk who has started a few couch and mattress fires while passed out, I doubt the latter could happen without detection. Just sayin.

Wayfaring Strang3r
Wayfaring Strang3r
  Fleabaggs
April 18, 2019 4:02 pm

Lotta words, bro. You seem to be saying “trust the authorities”. If that’s the case then chew on this – Authorities are trusted when they act in a manner that automatically inspires a Trust Response in the populace. In Western civ these behaviors are very well established. I could probably write down a bumch of them but then I’d have a monster block of text like you. So how about I write what is NOT an official response that inspires the public trust response, but instead embeds the opposite and that opposite response NEVER LEAVES but often festers.
Ready? If you are an official and you want the public to think you are full of shit, do this –
Declare a raging inferno to be an accident within minutes of the conflagration, repeat that without wavering WHILE the hellish behemoth is still very actively burning, and maintain that snappy response during the following days in spite of no one having gotten up there yet to actually inspect.
And if you really want people to think you’re full of shit, have the lock-step press corps actively mock and berate anyone asking questions, as opposed to doing the question-asking themselves, which is actually their jobs.
In a more domestic example, a guy crawls home several hours late, meets the confused wife in the kitchen and immediately rages at her “this aint perfume you’re smellin’ and this ain’t lipstick on my collar bitch! you got that? I wuz workin’ late”
Up until then she was worried he’d been in an accident or got mugged by Jussie Smollett.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Wayfaring Strang3r
April 18, 2019 5:24 pm

Chew..
How the hell did you read that into what I said. That was sarcasm. Where did I say that was an accident. Talk about a lot of words, you just wrote a book on how to look stupid.

mygirl
mygirl
  Fleabaggs
April 18, 2019 4:47 pm

Three years ago three muslim women were caught attempting to blow up the building. One of them was sentenced to 8 years of prison April 8. Nortre Dame, like the Twin Towers, has been a target for Muslim terrorists for quite awhile.

The church fires that are happening at an alarming rate didn’t require clever planning or massive and well organized moving parts. Arson can be readily accomplished by one or two people and the videos of the persons on the roof and the ignition of something indicate just that. It’s also possible to access the roof from the balconies and tourists do indeed go up there.

As to Muslims having much to lose? No, they had much to gain if this was an act of terrorism. The timing is important, Easter Week, the building is the pre-eminent symbol of Christianity in France and Europe. Muslims are at war with Christianity, witness the many murders committed in primarily Muslim countries. Easter Week is perfect timing to make a statement and strike a blow for Islam and against Christianity.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  mygirl
April 18, 2019 5:48 pm

Blondie..
Muslims aren’t as stupid as you and they can read what’s said.
2 days in a row you deliberately misread the same thing.
Take the next tornado to Oz and ask the Wizard for a brain.
If they were going to do it for the reason you gave they would be bragging on every Muslim news outlet worldwide.
Nobody said they don’t burn churches, but not this one right now. And you believe the videos on the roof prove that.
You didn’t read a word I said. You just took something to go off on and make you sound like a sage in your brainless head.
There is indeed a spiritual war going on but you have no idea who the main characters are.

mygirl
mygirl
  Fleabaggs
April 18, 2019 6:43 pm

Guess you missed the ISIS declaration? As to reading what you wrote? You’re not an especially coherent writer especially when attempting a dialectic, something that challenges the best of authors.
Your claim, if I read it correctly, is that the Muslims wouldn’t burn ‘this church’ because the timing wasn’t right. Now, where do you explain WHY the timing isn’t right?
Based on other comments you’ve made I would guess that the implication is that the jews did it.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  mygirl
April 18, 2019 7:09 pm

You mentioned Christianity three times in that last paragraph. I remind any who actually care that Notre Dame is a catholic (not a Christian) cathedral. It is the preeminent symbol of catholicism in France and Europe.

It is islam versus catholicism that’s the problem. It’s always religion that’s the culprit.

Did anyone view ordo’s comment the other day about Albert Pike and 3 world wars? It’s coming.

mygirl
mygirl
  grace country pastor
April 18, 2019 7:36 pm

Catholicism is Christian or do Catholics not worship Christ?

i caught the Pike statement and I have always said Globalism is Satanism. I provided some excerpts from the tunnel opening ceremony to illustrate that point.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  mygirl
April 18, 2019 8:57 pm

Catholicism is not a religion.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Donkey Balls
April 18, 2019 10:36 pm

It is as much a religion as islam. Both believe God to be on their side because of what they do. Neither is correct.

mark
mark
  Donkey Balls
April 18, 2019 11:05 pm

Donkey,

As a Mick/Wop I am surrounded by people I love who are Catholic…this is a great book about reaching them.

One tactic I have taken is to explain the simplicity of the gospel…then explain everything else outside that is manmade religion. Have had some success.

This book get into the Catholic weeds.

THE TEN MOST IMPORTANT THINGS YOU CAN SAY TO A CATHOLIC

The 10 Most Important Things You Can Say to a Catholic Paperback – January 1, 2002

Fact-filled, easy-to-understand, and visually appealing, this series delivers the essential knowledge you need to know to effectively witness biblical truths to people led astray by false teachings. Noted Bible teacher Ron Rhodes highlights the key differences between specific cults and biblical Christianity by:

• identifying the 10 most critical problems
• examining the exact nature of each doctrinal error
• contrasting cultic teachings with the truth found in God’s Word
• explaining the correct meanings of Bible verses cults cite out of context
• reviewing basic principles of Bible interpretation that ensure accurate understanding

Important points, witnessings tips, digging deeper sections, and cautions that highlight the confusing arguments and tactics used by each organization make these books perfect for individual witnessing, Bible studies, youth groups, and evangelism refreshers.

Discusses why the Apocrypha isn’t in the canon, the true role of tradition, Catholicism’s erroneous distinction between venial and mortal sins, the concept of purgatory, the controversy surrounding Jesus’ mother Mary, and more.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  mygirl
April 18, 2019 10:31 pm

Catholics very unfortunately do not worship Christ according to the revelation of the mystery given to Paul. They are therefore not Christian; they miss how God is dealing with man today. They worship Christ according to Kingdom doctrine given to Peter for the nation Israel. Doctrine which has been paused for 2,000 years.

Galatians 1:6-9 KJB… “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”

That’s Pauls gospel.

Romans 16:25-27 KJB… “Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.”

Christianity is way too simple for most people to understand. It is the 100% absence of religion. Religion defined as that which man can or must do to please God or assuage His anger. Religion is man centered.

In this dispensation, only what He did on the cross on our behalf is pleasing and a fully satisfying remedy to mankind’s sin problem.

He died for His enemies. Us.

Edit: “I provided some excerpts from the tunnel opening ceremony to illustrate that point.”

That was some truly bizarre stuff.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  grace country pastor
April 18, 2019 8:56 pm

Grace Pastor,

Are the times lining up as in Revelation?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Donkey Balls
April 18, 2019 10:35 pm

Satan is certainly moving the pieces of the chessboard with seemingly increased ferocity. We know how the book ends. At some point God will say enough and He will put a stop to this mess.

Don’t ask me when that will be. I don’t know. Nor will I be here.

mygirl
mygirl
  grace country pastor
April 19, 2019 12:02 am

@ GCPastor:
I appreciate that you mention the simplicity of Christianity. I also understand the issue with Catholicism. since Christ’s teachings in part were about not needing priests and others to intercede in communication w/ God. Go into the closet to pray, keep your piety to yourself. Religion exists to create a model for behaviours, do this, don’t do that. It also exists as a power structure, the hierarchy is best exemplified by the Pope, the Vicar of Christ, the head honcho and his court of bishops, archbishops and so on.

‘One of the greatest lies was Satan telling the world he didn’t exist.’ (badly paraphrased)

niebo
niebo
  mygirl
April 19, 2019 1:06 am

I disagree but not for the sake of disagreement, just have another take: the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that God does not exist.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  niebo
April 19, 2019 10:38 am

The greatest trick the devil ever played was to convince the world that he is God.

Isaiah 14:12-14 KJB… “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  mygirl
April 19, 2019 10:36 am

“Religion exists to create a model for behaviours, do this, don’t do that. It also exists as a power structure, the hierarchy is best exemplified by the Pope, the Vicar of Christ, the head honcho and his court of bishops, archbishops and so on.”

You’ve been terribly deceived. Answers abound as does Gods grace. Read Paul, the Apostle the risen and glorified Lord Christ sent to believers today.

2 Timothy 2:24-26 KJB… “And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”

I’ve come out of the closet and I’m not ashamed of the gospel of grace.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Fleabaggs
April 18, 2019 5:19 pm

Not Iran, Mecca.

Robert (QSLV)
Robert (QSLV)
April 18, 2019 2:12 pm

The roof and spire contained copper and lead. 800 year old lead, highly oxidized already would produce the white smoke, and the copper would glow a bright orange at high temps.

Robert (QSLV)

455Kc
455Kc
  Robert (QSLV)
April 18, 2019 3:42 pm

Maybe now that Mueller has nothing to do he should be appointed head Arson Investigator.

Done in Dallas
Done in Dallas
April 18, 2019 2:24 pm

Time for a B-52 pilgrimage to Mecca…

mark
mark
  Done in Dallas
April 18, 2019 7:59 pm

Dallas,

We could call it ‘The Magic Carpet Ride Bombing’

Play this in the cockpits of the Big Birds…

IluvCO2
IluvCO2
  Done in Dallas
April 18, 2019 9:42 pm

More war? Really? We haven’t lost enough American boys protecting Europe and Israel? Fuck all of them. We produce enough oil and can make our own brie. Bring ’em home and put them on the borders and coasts.

mark
mark
  IluvCO2
April 18, 2019 10:26 pm

Owww..IluvCO2… ‘I was only kidding buddy – bad joke’…I can see now how you took it…I’m blaming EC, Steppenwolf and a late martini for influncing me…hic..up. (I even upvoted you for chewing me out) hic..up.

Lets just load the B-52’s with pre cooked bacon strips.

IluvCO2
IluvCO2
  mark
April 18, 2019 11:02 pm

ok, point taken, but let’s go with pig blood mist everywhere. Just like geoengineering above all mosques.

mark
mark
  IluvCO2
April 18, 2019 11:23 pm
Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  mark
April 19, 2019 7:32 am

So bacon is out, but swearing and physical violence is acceptable?

Why are they even here?

e.d ott
e.d ott
  IluvCO2
April 19, 2019 8:50 am

In NJ, natural gas is cheaper than nuclear energy.
The f-king Mob-run power companies can’t compete with natural gas-fired utilities and, once again, have voiced their need for rate increases.
Fuck the Arabs, fuck Elon Musk, and fuck the enviro-weenies. The US taxpayer is being had.

kerry
kerry
April 18, 2019 2:42 pm

They should reinforce it, clean it up, put a secure ceiling in and leave it as a ruin for the faithful to tour. It can signify the collapse of Western civilization and deny the Muzzies a future mosque.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  kerry
April 18, 2019 6:02 pm

All that Marcon is interested in is to get the thing rebuilt with rich people’s money. He has no interest whatsoever in an investigation as to how or who started the fire. An honest investigation would show on Day 1 that it was a terroristic act by foreigners and that would invalidate his (and Merkel’s) bending over backwards to allow unchecked immigration.

wdg
wdg
April 18, 2019 4:40 pm

Sure an electrical short – that makes sense. But not as impressive as planes ramming into the Twin Towers and bringing them down along with Building 7 at free-fall velocities while melting and volatilizing steel in the process and leaving a blanket of dust on the streets of Lower Manhattan composed of uncombusted nano-thermite and micro-spheres of iron. This architect of restorations knows the answer but is reluctant to state that the fire was caused by arson. After all, truth-tellers have a habit of being suicided so it is understandable that he might be concerned for his life. Looking at the videos of the Notre Dame fire, incendiaries were probably used like the nano-thermite that brought down the Twin Towers in a controlled demolition. The only question is who burned down this historic Christian cathedral and why? Ask yourself: cui bono – Macron government, Islamic terrorists or Mossad?

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  wdg
April 18, 2019 5:25 pm

These people don’t even know what a short is. They’ve heard the word and they’ve seen all those movies where electrical lines are snapping and throwing off sparks like a sparkler without the circuit ever being tripped, so that’s how they imagine it happened. Maybe if there was a rat’s nest in an old wooden shack and the panel box still had fuses, but with the modern services we have today? It’s such a poor excuse it would be embarrassing coming from any other source.

And the contractor has already stated for the record that there were no workmen in the building and no ongoing work at the time of the fire. Of course they got to him pretty quick and not a peep has been heard from him since.

mygirl
mygirl
  Hardscrabble Farmer
April 18, 2019 5:44 pm

If the contractor values his life he shall become permanently mute.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mygirl
April 18, 2019 6:04 pm

The contractor is right now building his new home, next to Bernie’s on the lakefront.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  wdg
April 18, 2019 7:44 pm

WDG..
They’re too busy hating the muzzies to look at Macron or Mossad.

wdg
wdg
  Fleabaggs
April 19, 2019 7:33 am

USS Liberty, 9/11 and other false operations carried out by Israel/Mossad shows they have a history of this type of operation and demonizing Muslims comes in handy when you are trying to start wars with Iran and Syria while committing genocide against the Palestinian people.

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
April 18, 2019 6:14 pm

I have complete confidence that the French government will investigate thoroughly . They will give us a complete and truthful report. Not!

anonsortof
anonsortof
  Overthecliff
April 18, 2019 6:51 pm

They already have…for they are the world’s fastest arson investigators. They like to put their primary theory out there while the fire is still getting warmed up.

mygirl
mygirl
  Overthecliff
April 18, 2019 6:51 pm

Mais oui, certainment!

mark
mark
  mygirl
April 18, 2019 8:02 pm

We…(thats all my French)

NoThanksIJustAte
NoThanksIJustAte
April 18, 2019 7:36 pm

“800 YEAR OLD OAK DOESN’T BURN LIKE THAT”

“Dammit Ahmed they’re on to us! You’re always so fucking sloppy, I told you to go easy on the gasoline!”

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mark
mark
  NoThanksIJustAte
April 18, 2019 10:45 pm

Hmm…just another Muzzie hot head…hic..up.

wdg
wdg
April 19, 2019 8:11 am

Ask yourself: cui bono – Macron government, Islamic terrorists or Israel/Mossad? I would put my money on Mossad because: 1) they have a long history carrying out false flag operations – USS Liberty, 9/11, etc. ; 2) they would benefit from wars against Islamic countries such as Iran and Syria; and 3) they have an installed Rothschild puppet, Macron, running France and therefore are able to cover up this heinous crime as they did with 9/11.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
April 19, 2019 11:25 am

For your viewing (and listening) pleasure.