Do Border Walls Work?

Guest Post by Martin Armstrong

COMMENT: Skeptics who believe a border wall will not stop illegals from entering the United States may want to look at what’s happening in Hungary.

On the day its border fence was completed, the influx of illegals entering Hungary went down from 6,353 per day to 870 the next day. For the remainder of that month, illegal border crossings were steadily below 40 per day, officials said.

“They don’t even try,” a local border guard told The Daily Caller News Foundation. “We haven’t had a single Muslim migrant in six months.” Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s pledge to stop illegals from flowing into the country appears to be a spectacular success.

Hungary’s 96-mile long, 14-foot-tall, double-line fence includes several layers of razor-wire capable of delivering electric shocks. The barrier features cameras, heat sensors, and loudspeakers ready to tell migrants they’re about to break Hungarian law if they as much as touch the fence, the DC report said.

Nearly every police officer in Hungary is part of a rotation to monitor the border fence at all times. Temporary military bases house the police while they do their rotation. Additionally, Hungary will train and pay more than 1,000 volunteers to deploy as “border hunters”.

Illegals who are caught are arrested and dropped off on the Serbian side of the fence. They don’t get a chance to apply for asylum unless they do so at a “transit zone” where they are held in housing containers while their cases get processed, the report said.

In September 2016, thousands of migrants streamed across the border every day as they made their way north to Austria, Germany, and Scandinavia. “It was an invasion,” Laszlo Toroczkai, the mayor of Asotthalom, told the Daily Caller. “Illegal immigration is a crime in a normal country. It’s not a normal thing to break into a country.”

“By mid-year, it was well beyond 100,000 people who came across”, said Zoltan Kovacs, a spokesman for the Hungarian government. “You should at least have the ability to handle what’s going on.” Kovacs added, “You might not like it, it’s not a nice thing, but… the only way to stop illegal border crossings is first building a fence, man it, equip it, and also, in parallel, build up your capabilities in terms of legal confines, legal circumstances to be able to handle what is coming.”

It’s no surprise the mainstream U.S. media refuses to report this story to the American public Can you imagine how support for a Southern border wall would spike?

REPLY: The people who claim Trump’s wall will not work just listen to the propaganda to defeat Trump. The entire objective is to be able to say he failed in 2020. He made a campaign promise to build the wall, and for that reason the Democrats must defeat the wall regardless of the truth. Romans built a wall between England and Scotland to prevent the Scots from raiding Roman settlements. The world’s earliest known civilization was also one of the first to build a defensive wall during the 21st century BC. The ancient Sumerian rulers constructed a massive fortified barrier to keep out the Amorites, who were a group of nomadic tribesmen who were pillaging their settlements.

The “Great Wall of Gorgon” was a 121-mile rampart that extended from the southern coast of the Caspian Sea to the Elburz Mountains in what is now Iran. It is often called the Great Wall of Alexander the Great or “Alexander’s Barrier” that prevented the barbarians from invading from the north. It was most likely constructed by the Sasanian Persians sometime around the 5th century AD, and remains one of the longest walls of antiquity.

Of course, there is China’s legendary Great Wall which stretches from the Gobi Desert to the North Korean border. It was constructed on the fortifications that began during in the 3rd century BC, and it was intended to keep the Mongols out. The completed wall was once the largest manmade object in the world. The Mongol leader Altan Khan bypassed the wall and raided Beijing in 1550.

Naturally, we should not forget the Berlin Wall, modern history’s most infamous wall, which was erected in 1961 to keep people in rather than out. More than 100 people were eventually killed while trying to escape through the maze of 12-foot walls, guard towers, and electrified fences. It stood for almost 29 years before East German authorities finally opened it on November 9th, 1989.

There are many examples of walls throughout history and the world.

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14 Comments
overthecliff
overthecliff
April 19, 2019 9:38 am

Border walls work but only if there are common sense immigration laws and vigorous enforcement. The USA has neither and hasn’t for 50 years at least. Chances of getting them are slim to none. Be prepared the shit storm is going to be bad

Wildwood
Wildwood
April 19, 2019 10:01 am

There will not be a US border wall. There is a difference between pretending to be trying to build a wall and really trying to build a wall. Trump is pretending to be trying to build a wall. This insures a 2020 victory. Once he is re-elected by the “Hoodwinked Again MAGA Crowd”, he can relax with the pretend to build a wall and all but declare that there will never be a wall. Then his next reneging will be on the Second Amendment, guaranteed! Then when his second term is up, lather, rinse, repeat. This is the essence of Stockholm Syndrome.

mygirl
mygirl
  Wildwood
April 19, 2019 6:34 pm

Walls do work but generally there’s a shoot-to-kill order in place to reinforce the wall.

455Kc
455Kc
  mygirl
April 19, 2019 9:45 pm

A wall will work only if we want it to; to date it appears far too few Americans want a functional wall. If Hungary can throw up electrified razor wire and have guards overseeing their border it seems they have more national fortitude than do we.

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
  Wildwood
April 19, 2019 7:39 pm

Liar…. ^

Trump’s Border Wall Is Currently Being Built

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 19, 2019 10:31 am

We have another wall. They named it as a street in NYC.
It lures Mom & Pop investors into riskier assets.
It uses ‘financial advisors’ to pitch admonition of giving them some your earnings, so to save, and invest for increasing their wealth; not yours.
A rigged game.
Have the Fed enforce ZIRP, so savers who squirrel away funds see no benefit. Debase the fiat, as a form of stealth inflation, too.
Pay the pool of idiots a pittance of earnings and growth on their mutual funds, and skim fees to pad the pockets of the fund’s board of directors.
Then, when it all goes south, decrease their share value by 30-40%, during the fallout from crisis Wall St. creates.
A tech / .com bubble gets pricked.
Easy money for janitors to take loans out to buy mansions.
Repackage all those CDO’s, and MBS’s, then parlay the bets by selling them as attractive investments, spreading junk rated risk far and wide.
Then when that housing bubble gets pricked, see their IRA’s lose another 30%. Ditto, for the value of your house, if you still own one.
And then the big banks lose a shitload of money on stupid risky strategies, claim “too big to fail”, get a gov. bailout, so the losses are dumped onto the gov deficit.
i.e., the taxpayers and future recipients of SS, Medicaid with the threat of insolvency.
A Wall, to keep you penned in, as a current milk cow, and perhaps a beef cow, to be slaughtered and consumed.
How’s that yoke feel around your neck? Kinda heavy, eh?
Get moving. You need to work harder. The wall builders need more productivity out of the beasts.
And so it goes…

Pequiste
Pequiste
  Anonymous
April 19, 2019 11:18 am

Very well said. A fine insight using the Dismal Science to describe both the financial Zeitgeist and a certain Wall; the one for your money as well as for your mind.

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  Anonymous
April 19, 2019 11:23 am

Kind of irrelevant to this article, no?

mark
mark
  Schnitzel [email protected]
April 20, 2019 6:48 pm

Yea, it was…but still a true big picture rant.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
April 19, 2019 11:18 am

Leaving aside their probable use of vote fraud, democrat congressional candidates got roughly four million more votes than did republicans in 2018. While republicans in many cases only pretend to oppose illegal immigration (Paul Ryan exemplifies this), democrats don’t even pretend to oppose it. And yet they garnered more votes. The problem is the voters – our fellow citizens, boneheads.

Kushner’s goyboy
Kushner’s goyboy
April 19, 2019 11:21 am

The wall is a pure cop out for not controlling the border with manpower. What a freaking joke! By the time the fictional wall might be built, every third world country will have already emptied into the US. The wall will only serve to contain real citizens trying to escape the resultant horrors. Instead of continually kissing Israel’s ass, perhaps he can get them to show us how to defend a border. In a couple of years Mexico and a Canada would be annexed to the US and being occupied by American “settlers”……

AC
AC
April 19, 2019 2:12 pm

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TampaRed
TampaRed
April 19, 2019 3:21 pm

not a wall but almost as good–
think progress has their panties in a wad because armed vigilantes have been detaining border crossers–

https://thinkprogress.org/vigilante-group-asylum-seekers-mexico-367557475411/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tp-letters

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
April 20, 2019 7:40 pm

Trump’s FBI just arrested the leader of the Militia that was rounding up illegals on the New Mexico border and you should read the propaganda hit piece The Daily Beast posted.